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LIST OWNER
by Steven Heisler Feb. 26, 2026

Feb. 26, 2026

Has anyone had an issue with emails sent to a list owner not going through? i.e.* ListName-OWNER(a)domain.com <ListName-OWNER(a)domain.com>* Steven Heisler

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Weird emails
by Paul Tomblin Feb. 26, 2026

Feb. 26, 2026

I've got my server set up correctly (I hope) and on an https connection, and I *think* I've got it set up so mailman-web will only respond on localhost:8000, but I occasionally get a flood of emails like this: > Internal Server Error: /admin/login/ > > DoesNotExist at /admin/login/ > Site matching query does not exist. Followed by a bunch of Django stuff, followed by > HTTP__X__CLIENT_IP = '127.0.0.1' > HTTP__X__FORWARDED_FOR = '127.0.0.1, 185.177.72.38' > HTTP__X__FORWARDED_HOST = '96.126.110.20' > HTTP__X__FORWARDED_SERVER = 'list.xcski.com' > HTTP__X__FORWARED = '127.0.0.1' > HTTP__X__HOST = '127.0.0.1' > HTTP__X__ORIGINATING_IP = '127.0.0.1' > HTTP__X__REAL_IP = '127.0.0.1' > PATH_INFO = '/admin/login/' > QUERY_STRING = 'next=/admin/' > REMOTE_ADDR = '127.0.0.1' The HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR was a clue where it was coming from, and grepping through my apache access logs shows a script kiddie at 185.177.72.38 hammering a miliion urls, 99% of them 404s. Is there any way the code could just return a 403 or 418 instead of getting a python error? -- Paul Tomblin

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Documentation errors
by Paul Tomblin Feb. 23, 2026

Feb. 23, 2026

On the documentation about migration at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html, there are two commands that start `python manage.py hyper kitty_import|update_index_on_list`, but there is no manage.py installed if you install Mailman and Mailman web following the instructions. Instead, I was able to run them using `mailman-web hyperkitty_import|update_index_one_list` instead. What is the correct method for reporting these errors?

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Reason for Shunting
by Brian Carpenter Feb. 23, 2026

Feb. 23, 2026

Is there a way to determine why a message keeps ending up in the shunt queue? -- Brian Carpenter Harmonylists.com Emwd.com

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Can't import from Mailman 2.1
by Paul Tomblin Feb. 23, 2026

Feb. 23, 2026

I set up a new Mailman site using 3.3.10, and copied over my files from my old mailman site (using 2.1.34). I created a new domain, and a new list, and tried to import the settings from the old pickle file using mailman import21 pt-test(a)browncroftna.org /var/tmp/var.lib.mailman/lists/pt-test/config.pck (in the virtual environment shell) but I get the following error ``` File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/mailman/utilities/importer.py", line 512, in import_config_pck default_value = getUtility(ITemplateLoader).get(newvar, mlist) File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/mailman/model/template.py", line 211, in get path, fp = find(default_uri, mlist, code) ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/mailman/utilities/i18n.py", line 157, in find for search_path in raw_search_order: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/mailman/utilities/i18n.py", line 117, in search templates_dir = str(resources.enter_context( ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^ files('mailman').joinpath('templates'))) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3.13/contextlib.py", line 528, in enter_context raise TypeError(f"'{cls.__module__}.{cls.__qualname__}' object does " f"not support the context manager protocol") from None TypeError: 'pathlib._local.PosixPath' object does not support the context manager protocol ``` All I can find on Google is a suggestion that I have a non-empty `bounce_info`, but `dumpdb` shows it as empty.

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Customizing Postorios web templates
by Stefan Bethke Feb. 23, 2026

Feb. 23, 2026

Hi, I have two list servers that I would like customize the web pages for, specifically I need to add some legal information to the footer, and I might want to apply some light branding to the site. I can't find any hints on how to do that, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place? If Postorious does not currently allow that outright, it seems I would need to fork mailman/postorious, replace templates like https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/blob/master/src/postorius/templates/…, and build the package myself. Is this assessment correct? If so, would there be interest in adding a feature to define some blocks that can be overridden more easily, especially during deployment and without having to build custom Python packages? Stefan -- Stefan Bethke <stb(a)lassitu.de> Fon +49 175 3288861

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Digestion debugging
by John Price Feb. 21, 2026

Feb. 21, 2026

I'm having trouble getting digests to work. When I try to manually send one, it does nothing, and then the digest gets deleted (I guess?). I would love it if the documentation explained a bit more how the process works. How are the files gathered? What file can I backup and later restore if I'm debugging it? Also, how are the digest issue and volume numbers work? Is there any way to control that? Since I've been running digests for decades, can I set the volume and issue to what I want so that the numbering continues from where the other installation left off? Thanks, John -- Why do they lock gas station bathrooms? Are they afraid someone will clean them? Have a great day and don't forget to laugh! http://www.gcfl.net (The Good, Clean Funnies List): Good, clean daily funnies you can safely tell your Mom!

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Error After Posted Message in Archive
by msok＠lalawlibrary.org Feb. 21, 2026

Feb. 21, 2026

Hi All, After I started a new threat and posted message, I received an error. Where should I take a look into this issue? Thanks, Marin

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Try to Implement Template for The message sent to subscribers when a subscription confirmation is required
by msok＠lalawlibrary.org Feb. 20, 2026

Feb. 20, 2026

My NGINX configure redirect for HTTP to HTTPS. For the domain below, mailman.example.com = my actual domain -NGINX config server { # EXTERNAL: Redirects all port 80 traffic to HTTPS listen 80 default_server; listen [::]:80 default_server; # server_name mailman.example.com; server_name mailman.example.com; # no issue for accessing from outside, it will redirect to https return 301 https://$host$request_uri; # Redirect http to https server_tokens off; } # INTERNAL: Listens ONLY on 127.0.0.1 to handle local HTTP requests server { listen 127.0.0.1:80; server_name localhost; location / { include uwsgi_params; uwsgi_pass unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock; uwsgi_param HTTP_HOST $host; } location /mailman3/static { alias /var/lib/mailman3/web/static; } location /mailman3/static/favicon.ico { alias /var/lib/mailman3/web/static/postorius/img/favicon.ico; } -The URL syntax https://mailman.example.com/mailman3/lists/list-id/confirm/?token=$token -The error message when tried to add subscriber HTTP Error 400: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='localhost', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /postorius/api/templates/list/list-id/list:user:action:subscribe (Caused by SSLError(SSLCertVerificationError(1, '[SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed: unable to get local issuer certificate (_ssl.c:1029)'))) Please help! Thanks, Marin

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Mailman3 Queues Documentation
by msok＠lalawlibrary.org Feb. 20, 2026

Feb. 20, 2026

Hi Everyone, I'm looking for a documentation for the explanation about the Queues in Mailman3. By the way, I'm new, I just got 5 shunt under Queues. Mailman Core Version: GNU Mailman 3.3.10 (Tom Sawyer) Mailman Core API Version: 3.1 Mailman Core Python Version: 3.13.5 (main, Jun 25 2025, 18:55:22) [GCC 14.2.0] Queues archive 0 bad 0 bounces 0 command 0 digest 0 in 0 nntp 0 out 0 pipeline 0 retry 0 shunt 5 virgin 0 Thanks, Marin

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Confirmation emails aren't sent to users.
by Ibiam Chihurumnaya Feb. 18, 2026

Feb. 18, 2026

Confirmation emails aren't being sent to users and there's nothing in the logs that make it obvious what's happening. ERROR 2026-02-12 14:15:11,250 1985547 django.request Internal Server Error: /archives/list/soas(a)lists.sugarlabs.org/thread/CVAUPR7L6AYTNZXIWHQ263A6ZJUROTRC/ 233825 Traceback (most recent call last): 233826 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py", line 55, in inner 233827 response = get_response(request) 233828 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 197, in _get_response 233829 response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs) 233830 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/hyperkitty/lib/view_helpers.py", line 137, in inner 233831 return func(request, *args, **kwargs) 233832 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/hyperkitty/views/thread.py", line 238, in thread_index 233833 return render(request, "hyperkitty/thread.html", context=context) 233834 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/shortcuts.py", line 25, in render 233835 content = loader.render_to_string(template_name, context, request, using=using) 233836 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/loader.py", line 62, in render_to_string 233837 return template.render(context, request) 233838 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/backends/django.py", line 107, in render 233839 return self.template.render(context) 233840 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 172, in render 233841 return self._render(context) 233842 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 164, in _render 233843 return self.nodelist.render(context) 233844 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1018, in render 233845 return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) 233846 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1018, in <listcomp> 233847 return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) 233848 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 979, in render_annotated 233849 return self.render(context) 233850 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/loader_tags.py", line 159, in render 233851 return compiled_parent._render(context) 233852 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 164, in _render 233853 return self.nodelist.render(context) 233854 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1018, in render 233855 return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) 233856 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1018, in <listcomp> 233857 return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) 233858 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 979, in render_annotated 233859 return self.render(context) 233860 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/loader_tags.py", line 65, in render 233861 result = block.nodelist.render(context) 233862 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1018, in render 233863 return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) 233864 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1018, in <listcomp> 233865 return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) 233866 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 979, in render_annotated 233867 return self.render(context) 233868 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/loader_tags.py", line 210, in render 233869 return template.render(context) 233870 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 174, in render 233871 return self._render(context) 233872 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 164, in _render 233873 return self.nodelist.render(context) 233874 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1018, in render 233875 return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) 233876 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1018, in <listcomp> 233877 return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) 233878 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 979, in render_annotated 233879 return self.render(context) 233880 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1077, in render 233881 output = self.filter_expression.resolve(context) 233882 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 750, in resolve 233883 new_obj = func(obj, *arg_vals) 233884 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/hyperkitty/templatetags/decorate.py", line 42, in render 233885 return mark_safe(text_renderer(content)) 233886 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/markdown.py", line 120, in __call__ 233887 return self.parse(s)[0] 233888 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/markdown.py", line 93, in parse 233889 self.block.parse(state) 233890 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/block_parser.py", line 458, in parse 233891 end_pos2 = self.parse_method(m, state) 233892 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/core.py", line 216, in parse_method 233893 return func(m, state) 233894 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/block_parser.py", line 369, in parse_block_quote 233895 text, end_pos = self.extract_block_quote(m, state) 233896 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/block_parser.py", line 346, in extract_block_quote 233897 end_pos = self.parse_method(m4, state) 233898 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/core.py", line 216, in parse_method 233899 return func(m, state) 233900 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/block_parser.py", line 388, in parse_list 233901 return parse_list(self, m, state) 233902 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/list_parser.py", line 64, in parse_list 233903 groups = _parse_list_item(block, bullet, groups, token, state, rules) 233904 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/list_parser.py", line 178, in _parse_list_item 233905 block.parse(child, rules) 233906 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/block_parser.py", line 458, in parse 233907 end_pos2 = self.parse_method(m, state) 233908 File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mistune/core.py", line 214, in parse_method 233909 assert lastgroup 233910 AssertionError This is the last error in mailmanweb.log, the errors before that are similar.

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Receiving Email from ListName-bounce@Domain for Unsubcribe
by msok＠lalawlibrary.org Feb. 16, 2026

Feb. 16, 2026

Hello, On my new MM3 that I just installed, I testing unsubscribe user from mailing list. User received email for the unsubscribe in subject line as 'You have been unsubscribed from the Test1 mailing list' with email address 'test1-bounces@domain'. It should receive from test1-unsubscribe@domain instead. Where should I look into this? or configure it. Thanks, Marin

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Reply to Confirmation Email During Subscribe Process Receiving ListName-Bounce@Domain
by msok＠lalawlibrary.org Feb. 16, 2026

Feb. 16, 2026

I'm new to MM3. I just finished install it. I setup a test list with default settings as test1@domain. I added a user to the list via Mass Subscription with Pre confirm check and Pre approved check. Inside the user inbox in GMail account received email from address test1-confirm@domain ( I added this erp_confirm_format: $address to [mta] in /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg) with Your confirmation is needed to join the test1@domain mailing list. I replied to the email and I received another email as test1-bounce@domain. I went to my mailing test1@domain. I found a user that I tried to add list in 'Subscription request' under 'Pending Confirmation'. Could you help me to troubleshooting on this? Why I received a list-bounce@domain instead of successfully added or something. Thanks, Marin

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Internal Server Error: /mailman3/postorius/lists/.../held_messages - humanize: where to put?
by Flo Feb. 16, 2026

Feb. 16, 2026

Hi, I have setup in Debian Trixie mailman3-full and came that far, that I have created a mailing list. I can sent emails to the members. However when I send from an email which is non-member the message is held. If I want to accept this message as list admin, I get: `An error occurred while processing your request.` And I get an email: `Internal Server Error: /mailman3/postorius/.../held_messages TemplateSyntaxError at /postorius/lists/.../held_messages 'humanize' is not a registered tag library. Must be one of: account admin_list admin_modify admin_urls allauth bootstrap_tags cache compress d_gravatar date_helpers debugger_tags decorate gravatar highlight highlighting hk_generic hk_haystack i18n indent_text l10n log markdown membership_helpers more_like_this nav_helpers p_gravatar pagination postorius_helpers rest_framework socialaccount static syntax_color tz widont Request Method: GET Request URL: https://.../mailman3/postorius/lists/.../held_messages Django Version: 4.2.23 Python Executable: /usr/bin/uwsgi-core Python Version: 3.13.5 Python Path: ['.', '', '/usr/lib/python313.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.13', '/usr/lib/python3.13/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python3.13/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/setuptools/_vendor'] . . .` humanize is in the INSTALLED_APPS section in /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings.py. In this file I I configured Django. However it's not in the Python path as written in the error email above. So maybe I have to find a different settings file. Can anyone advise me where I can find the error I have in my configuration? Thanks in advance. Flo

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Inaccessible User Profile
by awingnut Feb. 14, 2026

Feb. 14, 2026

I have a long time user that cannot access their profile. When I click on users/members then that user as superuser, I get this error. Page not found This page either doesn't exist, or it moved somewhere else. When I click that uers manage button, the page comes up but it says there are no subscriptions. This user was subscribed as of couple of days ago. Can this be fixed via admin functions?

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Issues with Mail delivery after Mailman 3 installation
by Ibiam Chihurumnaya Feb. 12, 2026

Feb. 12, 2026

I finished installing mailman3, setup lmtp and smtp for mail delivery and I followed the instructions on the mailman 3 installation page. Mail delivery doesn't work and the logs show this; Jan 31 12:53:53 lists postfix/lmtp[4131588]: 3B8121A89BD: to=<systems(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:24, delay=11119, delays=11072/0.01/0.01/47, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (host 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] said: 451 4.3.0 <systems(a)lists.sugarlabs.org> Temporary internal error (in reply to RCPT TO command)) 106029 Jan 31 12:53:53 lists postfix/lmtp[4131587]: 052BB1A8975: to=<mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=localhost[127.0.0.1]:24, delay=1432, delays=1385/0.02/0.01/47, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (host localhost[127.0.0.1] said: 451 4.3.0 <mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org> Temporary internal error (in reply to RCPT TO command)) Jan 31 12:53:53 lists dovecot: lmtp(4131586): Disconnect from 127.0.0.1: Logged out (state=READY) Jan 31 12:53:53 lists postfix/local[4131582]: F2DB61A8952: passing <mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org> to transport=lmtp Jan 31 12:53:53 lists dovecot: lmtp(4131590): Disconnect from 127.0.0.1: Logged out (state=READY) Jan 31 12:53:53 lists dovecot: lmtp(4131589): Disconnect from 127.0.0.1: Logged out (state=READY) Jan 31 12:53:53 lists postfix/local[4131584]: D172A1A8A0E: passing <mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org> to transport=lmtp Jan 31 12:53:53 lists dovecot: lmtp(4131586): Connect from 127.0.0.1 Jan 31 12:53:53 lists dovecot: lmtp(4131589): Connect from 127.0.0.1 Jan 31 12:53:54 lists postfix/lmtp[4128841]: connect to localhost[::1]:24: Connection refused Jan 31 12:53:54 lists postfix/lmtp[4128840]: connect to localhost[::1]:24: Connection refused Jan 31 12:53:54 lists postfix/lmtp[4128841]: 348981A8A2A: to=<mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=none, delay=113, delays=0.04/52/61/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to localhost[::1]:24: Connection refused) Jan 31 12:53:54 lists postfix/lmtp[4128840]: 5382D1A8A27: to=<mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=none, delay=173, delays=0.02/111/61/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to localhost[::1]:24: Connection refused) Jan 31 12:53:56 lists dovecot: lmtp(4128842): Disconnect from 127.0.0.1: Connection closed (state=READY) Jan 31 12:53:56 lists dovecot: lmtp(4127392): Disconnect from 127.0.0.1: Connection closed (state=READY) Jan 31 12:54:02 lists postfix/pickup[4131579]: 1D3E71A8A1C: uid=1005 from=<mailman> Jan 31 12:54:02 lists postfix/cleanup[4131852]: 1D3E71A8A1C: message-id=<20260131205402.1D3E71A8A1C(a)lists.sugarlabs.org> Jan 31 12:54:02 lists postfix/qmgr[4131580]: 1D3E71A8A1C: from=<mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>, size=919, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 31 12:54:53 lists dovecot: auth: Fatal: passdb passwd-file: Missing args Jan 31 12:54:53 lists dovecot: master: Error: service(auth): command startup failed, throttling for 60.000 secs Jan 31 12:54:53 lists dovecot: lmtp(mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org)<4131586><qMl1NuFrfmkCCz8AOj1W/w>: Error: auth-master: userdb lookup(mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org): Disconnected unexpectedly Jan 31 12:54:53 lists dovecot: lmtp(4131586): Error: lmtp-server: conn 127.0.0.1:56008 [2]: rcpt mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org: Failed to lookup user mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org: Internal error occurred. Refer to server log for more information. Jan 31 12:54:53 lists postfix/lmtp[4131585]: F2DB61A8952: host localhost[127.0.0.1] said: 451 4.3.0 <mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org> Temporary internal error (in reply to RCPT TO command) Jan 31 12:54:53 lists dovecot: lmtp(mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org)<4131589><kJd+NuFrfmkFCz8AOj1W/w>: Error: auth-master: userdb lookup(mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org): Disconnected unexpectedly Jan 31 12:54:53 lists dovecot: lmtp(4131589): Error: lmtp-server: conn 127.0.0.1:56014 [2]: rcpt mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org: Failed to lookup user mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org: Internal error occurred. Refer to server log for more information. Jan 31 12:54:53 lists postfix/lmtp[4131588]: D172A1A8A0E: host localhost[127.0.0.1] said: 451 4.3.0 <mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org> Temporary internal error (in reply to RCPT TO command) Jan 31 12:54:53 lists postfix/lmtp[4131585]: connect to localhost[::1]:24: Connection refused Jan 31 12:54:53 lists postfix/lmtp[4131588]: connect to localhost[::1]:24: Connection refused Jan 31 12:54:53 lists postfix/lmtp[4131585]: F2DB61A8952: to=<mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=none, delay=1492, delays=1385/47/60/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to localhost[::1]:24: Connection refused) Jan 31 12:54:53 lists postfix/lmtp[4131588]: D172A1A8A0E: to=<mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=none, delay=591, delays=484/47/60/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to localhost[::1]:24: Connection refused) Jan 31 12:54:53 lists postfix/local[4131582]: D92311A8A17: passing <mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org> to transport=lmtp Jan 31 12:54:53 lists postfix/local[4131584]: D52231A8A1A: passing <mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org> to transport=lmtp Jan 31 12:55:02 lists postfix/pickup[4131579]: 019161A8A2C: uid=1005 from=<mailman> Jan 31 12:55:02 lists postfix/cleanup[4131852]: 019161A8A2C: message-id=<20260131205502.019161A8A2C(a)lists.sugarlabs.org> Jan 31 12:55:02 lists postfix/qmgr[4131580]: 348981A8A2A: from=<mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>, size=919, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 31 12:55:02 lists postfix/qmgr[4131580]: 019161A8A2C: from=<mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>, size=919, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 31 12:55:02 lists postfix/qmgr[4131580]: 5382D1A8A27: from=<mailman(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>, size=919, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 31 12:55:18 lists postfix/smtpd[4132212]: fatal: open dictionary: expecting "type:name" form instead of "dovecot" I setup lmtp with dovecot, and I have this in dovecot.conf; passdb passwd-file { driver = passwd-file } I also have these set in postfix main.cf; lmtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes lmtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes lmtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:path_to_passwd_file I'm wondering if I need to disable sasl because I set dovecot not to use ssl because lmtp is only running internally.

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Mailman and Postfix Conflicting Information
by dap1＠bellsouth.net Feb. 9, 2026

Feb. 9, 2026

I've been going in circles between mailman and postfix trying to get things working. My current condition is that either mailman is putting incoming mail in the bit bucket or postfix is not sending incoming mail to mailman. According to the postfix forum my mailman configuration is messed up but it was auto generated by the installer. Supposedly these entries should not be in /opt/mailman/mm/var/data/postfix_lmtp or rather transport_maps and/or local_recipient_maps. # Aliases which are visible only in the @gmail.com domain. lllllllllll(a)gmail.com lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 lllllllllll-bounces(a)gmail.com lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 lllllllllll-confirm(a)gmail.com lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 lllllllllll-join(a)gmail.com lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 lllllllllll-leave(a)gmail.com lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 lllllllllll-owner(a)gmail.com lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 lllllllllll-request(a)gmail.com lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 lllllllllll-subscribe(a)gmail.com lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 lllllllllll-unsubscribe(a)gmail.com lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 And relay_domains shouldn't have this entry either in /opt/mailman/mm/var/data/postfix_domains in relay_domains: gmail.com gmail.com Clearly my postfix configuration is messed up but since this was all auto generated I don't know what to do.

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Re: Expire non-members
by Mark Sapiro Feb. 9, 2026

Feb. 9, 2026

On 2/8/26 18:36, John Price wrote: > I notice that a lot of the non-members (I didn't look at all ~230) don't > seem to be in the master user list. Maybe until they confirm the user > record is not created yet? If the address was just added from a nonmember post, it won't have a user record. As I said before, there is no pending confirmation for the nonmember. The address has been added as a nonmember and that's it. They won't be added as a member unless they request subscription at which point they will have to confirm if the list's subscription policy requires it. > Anyway, I'd love a subscribe timestamp so I could calculate how long it > has been, but I can rig something up with a daily cron job and a simple > DB of emails and the date it noticed them on the non-members list and > delete them after a few days. Thanks for the info! For the nonmember, nonmember.address.registered_on is probably the timestamp you are looking for. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Re: Expire non-members
by Stephen J. Turnbull Feb. 9, 2026

Feb. 9, 2026

John Price writes: > I notice that a lot of the non-members (I didn't look at all ~230) > don't seem to be in the master user list. Maybe until they confirm > the user record is not created yet? The User object is created. User records don't get confirmed, the addresses that are attached to them get confirmed. > Anyway, I'd love a subscribe timestamp so I could calculate how > long it has been Some of the object records have creation timestamps in the SQL database, but they are not exposed in the web UI. They're not very interesting to human beings and take up a lot of UI space, even if you only display the date. Also, I'm not sure whether the core database records timestamps, although I'm pretty sure Django does for both creation and confirmation. -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan

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Expire non-members
by John Price Feb. 8, 2026

Feb. 8, 2026

Is there a way to expire and delete (in mailman3 or via cron) non-members? I've been running mailman3 for a couple of weeks now on a few mailing lists, and on my big list specifically I'm seeing lots of spam to the gcfl-join(a)gcfl.net email alias, which creates these non-members, but they never confirm their subscription, so they remain in non-member limbo. Thank you, John -- Is it my imagination, or do buffalo wings taste like chicken? Have a great day and don't forget to laugh! http://www.gcfl.net (The Good, Clean Funnies List): Good, clean daily funnies you can safely tell your Mom!

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[Mailman-Users] VERP on Mailman 3
by Stephen J. Turnbull Feb. 8, 2026

Feb. 8, 2026

Redirecting to Mailman 3 users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org>. John Price via Mailman-Users writes: > I attempted to setup VERP on Mailman3 and it doesn't seem to be > changing the sender address. Please explain why you think that. Note: The sender address that is changed is the envelope address. You won't see it in the message headers in most cases. There should be relevant log messages in your MTA log that have the envelope sender as "from=<...sender...>" in the case of Postfix. I forget what Exim4 and Sendmail use. > What else should I provide that will help? - Log entries from Mailman and the MTA pertaining to one or more messages that should have been VERPed. - What is your MTA? - What is the setting for recipient_delimiter (if Postfix, or the equivalent for other MTAs)? - How did you install Mailman? Note that if you installed from Debian packages, the first thing you should do is contact the Debian maintainers for their packages. The rest of this message is preserved from the original post to mailman-users(a)python.org for completeness. Steve > I don't know what the problem is. > > I am using the '_' character for my verp delimiter. This is what I > have been using with mailman2 for about 15 years. It has been > working perfectly. > > I'm using Postfix 3.10.5. > > $ mailman conf | grep verp > [mta] verp_confirm_format: ${address}_${cookie} > [mta] verp_confirm_regexp: ^(.*<)?(?P<addr>[^_]+?)_(?P<cookie>[^@]+)@.*$ > [mta] verp_confirmations: yes > [mta] verp_delimiter: _ > [mta] verp_delivery_interval: 1 > [mta] verp_format: ${bounces}_${local}=${domain} > [mta] verp_personalized_deliveries: yes > [mta] verp_probe_format: ${bounces}_${token}@${domain} > [mta] verp_probe_regexp: ^(?P<bounces>[^_]+?)_(?P<token>[^@]+)@.*$ > [mta] verp_probes: yes > [mta] verp_regexp: ^(?P<bounces>[^_]+?)_(?P<local>[^=]+)=(?P<domain>[^@]+)@.*$ > > $ mailman info > GNU Mailman 3.3.10 (Tom Sawyer) > Python 3.13.5 (main, Jun 25 2025, 18:55:22) [GCC 14.2.0] > config file: /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg > db url: mysql+pymysql://mm3:blah@localhost/mailman3?charset=utf8&use_unicode=1 > devmode: DISABLED > REST root url: https://localhost:8001/3.1/ > REST credentials: admin:password > > $ cat /etc/debian_version > 13.3 > > TIA, > John -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan

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Permissions Error on /var/mail/mailman
by dap1＠bellsouth.net Feb. 5, 2026

Feb. 5, 2026

I am going in circles between postfix issues and mailman. However, before I continue with postfix debugging I want to resolve this first as it may be related for all I know. I'm getting this error in the postfix mail log: 2026-02-01T11:00:10.106626-05:00 dap002 postfix/local[113730]: 01623500076: to=<mailman(a)myhost.localdomain>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=local, delay=0.16, de lays=0.11/0.01/0/0.04, dsn=5.2.0, status=bounced (cannot update mailbox /var/mail/mailman for user mailman. cannot open file: Permission denied) I'm not sure why mailman is trying to write to that file but it is owned by root:mail. It is obvious why permission is denied to mailman. Is that directory really part of mailman3 and if so what should ownership and permissions be? If not then why is mailman trying to write to it? That path does not appear in any of the files in /etc/mailman3.

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Is there an option to "disable" a list temporarily? (feature request?!)
by Christian Schneider Feb. 4, 2026

Feb. 4, 2026

Hello dear Mailman Team, I scanned through the web interface of my mailman instance... and I did not find an option to disable a list temporarily ("sending" and "access to web interface")... This might come in handy when a list is abused for sending spams or when a list owner wants his/her list to be removed... Instead of removing the list instantly I would disable it for three months first... (You never know with users... ;-) ) Preferably I would backup the list (settings and members) and the archives, but as seen in the discussion there is actually no backup mechanism for lists... Is there an option to disable a list (except from resetting passwords and remove/disable mail aliases)? If not I'd like to hand this in as a feature request... xD Thank you very much and kind regards Christian

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Request for ideas and mentors for Summer of Code 2026
by Stephen J. Turnbull Feb. 3, 2026

Feb. 3, 2026

Hi all, The GNU Mailman Project is applying for Google Summer of Code 2026[1]. Our Ideas Page[2] has been updated. We're still open for mentors, of course, and ideas. There's no deadline, but to be most useful it would be helpful to have these suggestions by February 19 when Google announces selected organizations. Summer of Code projects must involve substantial amounts of new code. The effort involved should be 150 to 200 hours (although programmers' skills may be anywhere from "novice" to "10x", so the amount of code can vary more than that!) Projects which are primarily documentation, user interface skinning, or tests are usually ineligible. Please send those to me by email or on this list if you think the idea would be of interest to other Mailman users, or might trigger suggestions for improvement from them. We are also interested in "tiny" tasks which are suitable for demonstrating interest and making the applicant familiar with our review process. If you have some minor annoyance (whether bug or missing feature) that you think might take an experienced Mailman dev an hour, this is a good chance to get some eyes on it. For these it would be most helpful if you file an issue on the relevant project (usually core[3], Postorius[4], or HyperKitty[5]), and mark it "easy" and "GSoC", and "beginner-friendly" if appropriate. (The difference between "easy" and "beginner-friendly" is "easy" means low effort, while "beginner-friendly" means it does not require prior knowledge of Mailman internals or non-stdlib Python modules such as SQLAlchemy, Zope, or Django.) Documentation and testing tasks are welcome here. Looking forward to your ideas! Steve Footnotes: [1] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ [2] https://wiki.list.org/DEV/Google%20Summer%20of%20Code%202026 [3] https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman [4] https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius [5] https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan

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Phantom Email Address in Nonmember List
by Steve Brown Jan. 31, 2026

Jan. 31, 2026

Have an issue that is more of a puzzle than a problem. No real harm done. So don't spend much time on it if you don't recognize the issue. I am administrator for a small list, radg(a)lists.radg.us, hosted by Mailmanlists.net. They are trying hard to figure it out but so far unsuccessful. Looking at the headers of emails sent from steve(a)stevebrown.us to the list and boomeranged back to me, I see a line “X-MailFrom: bounce+66273f.99dcd9c-radg=lists.radg.us(a)stevebrown.xn--us-02t. I gather that it is designating the return path where a message would be sent if there was a delivery problem. From its position in the header, I suspect it is added as they pass through Mailgun, maybe related to DKIM. I am hoping you might know why that bounce address is recognized by Mailman 3 as a real address for my emails, but not for others, even from my wife’s computer traversing the same path from our home to the Mailman 3 server. The Mailman installation does get and process the post, but also puts the “bounce+,,,” address in its list of nonmembers. Mailmanlists.net hasn’t figured out the behavior. I can provide full header information if that would help. My understanding of how headers work is very limited. Steve Brown

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Domain defaults for new lists
by Peter Chubb Jan. 30, 2026

Jan. 30, 2026

Hi Folks, Is there a simple way to set up the defaults for any newly created lists? We've had a few cases recently where in the time between creating a mass-populated list and making it private it's been inundated with spam. I'd like to change the defaults so newly-created lists are private and have private archives, new members are moderated, etc., to give time for the list to be set up completely before announcing it to the world. Peter C

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Is there a bin/find_member in MM3
by iMark Jan. 28, 2026

Jan. 28, 2026

Hi, In Mailman 3, is there an equivalent to the Mailman 2 script command of "bin/find_member <EMAILADDRESS>" ? Regards, Mark

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Internal Server Errors in mailmanweb.log
by Washington Odhiambo Jan. 25, 2026

Jan. 25, 2026

I keep seeing several errors like the below in my mailmanweb.log and not sure what the causa is. ``` [ERROR] [2025-12-17 18:24:22,053] [log] 1969696 140553251733568 Internal Server Error: /archives/list/ kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke/thread/C6QQOYBSQIWHJ7ALGSR23U44U2FHTFG2/ Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py", line 55, in inner response = get_response(request) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 197, in _get_response response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/hyperkitty/lib/view_helpers.py", line 137, in inner return func(request, *args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/hyperkitty/views/thread.py", line 238, in thread_index return render(request, "hyperkitty/thread.html", context=context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/shortcuts.py", line 24, in render content = loader.render_to_string(template_name, context, request, using=using) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/loader.py", line 62, in render_to_string return template.render(context, request) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/backends/django.py", line 61, in render return self.template.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 175, in render return self._render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 167, in _render return self.nodelist.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in render return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in <listcomp> return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 966, in render_annotated return self.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/loader_tags.py", line 157, in render return compiled_parent._render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 167, in _render return self.nodelist.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in render return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in <listcomp> return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 966, in render_annotated return self.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/loader_tags.py", line 63, in render result = block.nodelist.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in render return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in <listcomp> return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 966, in render_annotated return self.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/defaulttags.py", line 321, in render return nodelist.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in render return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in <listcomp> return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 966, in render_annotated return self.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/loader_tags.py", line 208, in render return template.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 177, in render return self._render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 167, in _render return self.nodelist.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in render return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in <listcomp> return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 966, in render_annotated return self.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/defaulttags.py", line 238, in render nodelist.append(node.render_annotated(context)) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 966, in render_annotated return self.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/loader_tags.py", line 208, in render return template.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 177, in render return self._render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 167, in _render return self.nodelist.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in render return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1005, in <listcomp> return SafeString("".join([node.render_annotated(context) for node in self])) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 966, in render_annotated return self.render(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 1064, in render output = self.filter_expression.resolve(context) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/template/base.py", line 742, in resolve new_obj = func(obj, *arg_vals) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/hyperkitty/templatetags/decorate.py", line 42, in render return mark_safe(text_renderer(content)) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/markdown.py", line 120, in __call__ return self.parse(s)[0] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/markdown.py", line 93, in parse self.block.parse(state) File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/block_parser.py", line 457, in parse end_pos2 = self.parse_method(m, state) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/core.py", line 216, in parse_method return func(m, state) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/block_parser.py", line 368, in parse_block_quote text, end_pos = self.extract_block_quote(m, state) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/block_parser.py", line 345, in extract_block_quote end_pos = self.parse_method(m4, state) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/core.py", line 216, in parse_method return func(m, state) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/block_parser.py", line 387, in parse_list return parse_list(self, m, state) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/list_parser.py", line 64, in parse_list groups = _parse_list_item(block, bullet, groups, token, state, rules) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/list_parser.py", line 174, in _parse_list_item block.parse(child, rules) File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/block_parser.py", line 457, in parse end_pos2 = self.parse_method(m, state) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mistune/core.py", line 214, in parse_method assert lastgroup AssertionError ``` Since they are many, perhaps the causa is the same thing that can be fixed? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

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Disabling Mass operations
by iMark Jan. 24, 2026

Jan. 24, 2026

Hi All, Can anyone give me a pointer on disabling "Mass operations" (subscribe/removal) in Postorius. Just removing the menu link from the list-owners administration pages would be a good start. On "list-by-list" would be brilliant, but even server-wide would do the job. Cheers, Mark

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Change Member's Address
by dap1＠bellsouth.net Jan. 15, 2026

Jan. 15, 2026

How do I manually change a member's address? I can't find any way to do that from the mailman-web pages. Do I need to do it within MySQL somewhere? TIA.

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Any known cases of "non-members" who aren't explicitly allowed to send to the list with a default rule of "discard" on a list getting through?
by Thomas Ward Jan. 10, 2026

Jan. 10, 2026

We just noticed an oddness in a client's system. Someone sent to a members-only list and it 'got past' moderation controls. The list is set to not allow non-members to send to the list, but somehow it got through the default rule of "discard (no notification)" for a non-member and got to the list. The only oddness I can tell is that there was an emoji (unicode) in the subject line but as I understand how Mailman works, this should NOT have impacted anything, as the sender filter bits happen earlier in message processing. Has *anyone* seen any cases like this before? If this is repeatable or a known issue, it deserves a CVE security bug because this is a **severe** problem.

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Unadvertised lists accessible even if not signed in
by Peter Chubb Jan. 5, 2026

Jan. 5, 2026

Hi folks, I'm running Mailman3 3.3.10, with postorius and hyperkitty. I want unadvertised lists to be visible only to the people who are subscribed to them and to site administrators. Right now, anyone who has the name of a list can construct a URL to the signup page, even for unadvertised lists. So, I can go to: https://site.name/postorius/lists/test.site.name/ and get to the test list, even if it is unadvertised. I see people scanning URLs like this in the NGINX logs, looking for lists. How can I prevent anyone not logged in, and not a member of an unadvertised list, from seeing it? Peter C

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Getting original message headers
by Peter Chubb Jan. 5, 2026

Jan. 5, 2026

We've been seeing some particularly pernicious spammers recently. They're using gmail accounts; I'd like to report them to Google. To do that I need to find the original message headers. By the time the message gets to the archive, or to the mailing list recipients, all the Received: headers seem to have been deleted, leaving only the ones from my list server outwards. Is there a way to access the original incoming emai, before DMARC mitigation etc., has changed the headers? Peter C

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Confirmation Email Not Sent
by dap1＠bellsouth.net Dec. 31, 2025

Dec. 31, 2025

While waiting for the Django problem to be resolved, I am able to make it accept a specific host login to get around the CSRF error. So I am now trying to add a member to my list using the ...join address. I get back a message saying the request is pending. I can also see it on the pending user confirmation page. However, there is nothing showing up on the pending approval page nor is there anything in the mail.log showing an outgoing confirmation email or email to the list admin about a pending approval. There is nothing in the mailq either, Looking through the logs I see nothing helpful. Where is the confirmation email?

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Cannot Run Web Frontend
by dap1＠bellsouth.net Dec. 27, 2025

Dec. 27, 2025

I'm having trouble getting my web frontend working. When I try to access http://localhost/mailman3 I get a 503 error and the following in the apache2 error.log: [Tue Dec 23 13:08:41.584412 2025] [proxy:error] [pid 132768] (111)Connection refused: AH00957: http: attempt to connect to 127.0.0.1:8000 (127.0.0.1:8000) failed [Tue Dec 23 13:08:41.584578 2025] [proxy_http:error] [pid 132768] [client 2600:1700:5cac:4600:fc36:9a27:6e66:44b:49658] AH01114: HTTP: failed to make connection to backend: 127.0.0.1 This is the relevant part of apache2's 000-default.conf: <IfModule mod_proxy.c> ProxyPreserveHost On ProxyPass "/mailman3" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/mailman3" ProxyPass "/archives" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/archives" ProxyPass "/accounts" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/accounts" ProxyPass "/admin" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/admin" ProxyPass "/user-profile" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/user-profile" </IfModule> What is a bit confusing but probably unrelated is this is in the virtual section for port 80 rather than port 443. I don't see any errors anywhere else.

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Upgrading dockerized Mailman3 from 0.4 to 0.5.1
by jesper.holck＠ibsgaarden.dk Dec. 27, 2025

Dec. 27, 2025

I am a happy user running Mailman 3, dockerized, in combination with Mailcow. After a few initial problems, everything is running smoothly. Now I'm considering upgrading from 0.4 to 0.5.1, but I'm not sure about the right procedure. Is it something like this? * Stop Containers: # docker compose down * Change the two occurrences of "0.4" to "0.5.1" in my docker-compose.yaml file * Pull New Images: # docker compose pull * Restart: # docker compose up -d Will there be any need for database migrations? Thanks for all the work many of you has put into this.

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Mass operations on large list - Internal Server Error
by Liam Reilly Dec. 18, 2025

Dec. 18, 2025

Hi, A list owner has reported that their list page for list of 3460 members crashes with "internal server error" when attempting to do mass operations such as unsubscribe all or large mass subscribe of many members. Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Liam

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Stand 18.12.2025
by Markus Grandpré Dec. 18, 2025

Dec. 18, 2025

Hallo zusammen, Blockierte Annahme von E-Mails: * t-online, Austragung beantragt. Verzögerte Annahme von E-Mails: * google.com, bis zu 22 Stunden, * yahoo, bis zu 20 Stunden. Bewertungen der Mailausgangsserver: * Senderscore: 43 (poor) / 46 (poor) * Talos (Ciso): neutral / neutral Gruß Markus -- Markus Grandpré (he/him) Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations- und Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung IT-Dienste Forschung, Lehre und Infrastruktur Sachgebiet Diensteadministration 78457 Konstanz Tel: +49 7531 88-4342D

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migrating mm21 to mm3 with different domain
by Thomas Krichel Dec. 17, 2025

Dec. 17, 2025

Hi gang, I want to migrate mm21 to mm3, by changing the domain of the list, thus LIST@OLD_dom to LIST@NEW_DOM. I run on debian, with the debian testing version of mm3 installed. Is there an obvious way to do that? Right now I think 0. create new list 1. read mm21 pickle to change the domains in it, write to temporary pickle 2. run mailman import with that pickle 3. read the archive mailbox and change the domain in all the headers 4. change the domainname in bodies and attachments (?) 5. run hyperkitty import This may be the project of a madman... any advice? -- Written by Thomas Krichel http://openlib.org/home/krichel on his 22110th day.

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One-click unsubscribe?
by Jered Floyd Dec. 16, 2025

Dec. 16, 2025

I'm having a lot of problems with GMail delivery due to lack of "one-click unsubscribe" -- however that is quantified, which is not clear. In particular, there is an issue with the fact that Google ignores dots in email addresses. So I have many (MANY!) subscribers who try to use the List-Unsubscribe header target, but because they are subscribed as "idiotsubscriber(a)gmail.com" rather than "idiot.subscriber(a)gmail.com" (which they have since changed their sender to) they get a reject that they are not subscribed. These people are also far too unobservant to read the footer of every message that reads "You are subscribed as idiotsubscriber(a)gmail.com". Is there any way to provide personalized List-Unsubscribe header links, or have Mailman ignore dots in gmail.com addresses... or... anything? I'm finding reported spam percentages in the Google Postmaster Dashboard exceeding 0.1%, which causes massive delivery blocking to GMail-based subscribers. While I would gladly ban everyone who uses gmail, that sadly accounts for about half of the Internet today and would be incredibly unproductive. Thanks, --Jered

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Postorius permissions granularity
by Liam Reilly Dec. 16, 2025

Dec. 16, 2025

Hi, Is there a way to have more granular permissions in Postorius than either User or Superuser? The user permissions that are configurable under /admin/auth/user/ do not seem to have any effect. We have a helpdesk team that would benefit from being able to access all list pages in the same way as a Superuser, but without the ability to accidentally delete the mail domain for example. Thanks, Liam

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Reject email based on message size.
by Hitashi mancho Dec. 16, 2025

Dec. 16, 2025

Dear all, We have a few mailing lists with a message size limit of 512K. At the same time, these mailing lists are moderated by designated moderators. As configured, posts with a message size greater than 512K are held for moderation. However, even after multiple reminders, some moderators accept these postings. Is there a way to automatically reject all such messages with an appropriate rejection reason? Can we implement a custom rule or a plugin that will help in this case? Regards, Hitachi.

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Strange bug I can't reproduce
by MegaBrutal Dec. 15, 2025

Dec. 15, 2025

Hello, I have an application that populates the Reply-To header and sends the e-mail to the list. Under very specific conditions, Mailman may malform this Reply-To header. What I found out is that the second address must match the pattern "Some Name" <a.b0(a)example.com>. The e-mail is properly formatted when it gets into Mailman, but when it is sent out to list members, it gets malformed to Some(a)serverhostname.example.com. Some more info: the first address name is UTF-8 encoded and then "Some Name" wraps into the other line at the middle. I tried to reproduce it like this: Reply-To: =?utf-8?b?QUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQQo=?= < list(a)example.org>, "Some Name" <a.b0(a)example.com> But the problem is not triggered. The problem seems to only present when I send the mail from the application, and so it would be easy to blame the app, but again when I check the queue files, it seems to send the e-mail correctly. It really seems to be a problem with Mailman, I just can't find the exact conditions to trigger it. For privacy reasons I can not share the exact copy of the e-mails on the list, but would it be possible to send it privately so devs could find out where might be the problem? Best regards, MegaBrutal

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Hyperkitty attachments
by Eric Broens Dec. 11, 2025

Dec. 11, 2025

Hi, Hyperkitty provides the possibility to store attachments on the disk by the config parameter HYPERKITTY_ATTACHMENT_FOLDER. Is it possible to export attachments to disk if they are stored in the DB, and have them linked into the archived mail? Is it possible to decide per mailinglist if attachments should be stored in DB or on disk? If not, I would like to request this feature. Thanks, Eric

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Using clean_users.py
by Odhiambo Washington Dec. 8, 2025

Dec. 8, 2025

I have run clean_users.py with: DELETE_MAILMAN_USER = True DELETE_DJANGO_IF_MAILMAN = True However, when I go to https://mm3-site/mm/lists/listname.mm3-site/members/nonmember/ I still have hundreds of users listed despite the script having run and it showed hundreds of addresses removed. What might be the issue? I expect to NOT find anything listed as nonmembers. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

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Removing the footer from mailing list messages
by MegaBrutal Dec. 7, 2025

Dec. 7, 2025

Hello, I'm replacing a Postfix virtual_alias_maps distribution list with a GNU Mailman mailing list because there were many bounced messages, as Postfix doesn't care about properly resending e-mails. I want to kind of restoring the same functionality with Mailman, i.e. to be it as transparent as it can be, neither non-members, nor members should see how the list is implemented by Mailman. Therefore, I want to remove the „XX mailing list ...; To unsubscribe send an e-mail to ...” message from the footer of the e-mails. The problem with this is that list members sometimes reply to e-mails from non-members, and might potentially leave the footer in the quote. What I already tried: define a custom template for list:member:regular:footer. The result was that the mailing list stopped operating altogether, no messages passed through until I deleted this template. After I deleted it, all delayed e-mails were forwarded at once. What would be the right way to remove the footer? Best regards, MegaBrutal

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Hyperkitty: Determine the size of an archive
by Frank Richter Dec. 6, 2025

Dec. 6, 2025

Hi, we’d like to inform our list owners of archive enabled lists about the (approximate) size of their archive. In Mailman 2 we used the size of the mbox file. Now how can I determine the size of the archived e-mails of a list in Mailman3 with Hyperkitty? Any ideas? Thanks, Frank -- Frank Richter, Chemnitz University of Technology, Germany

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Too Many From Headers
by dap1＠bellsouth.net Dec. 2, 2025

Dec. 2, 2025

I am getting mail bounced from yahoo and gmail smtp servers with this message: 554: Message not accepted due to failed RFC compliance. Too many From headers. See https://senders.yahooinc.com/smtp-error-codes#rfc-compliance-failures What would cause mailman to build too many from headers when distributing email? It appears the from address is repeated 5 times in the from field. I'm guessing it is something in my configuration but what and where?

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Finding all held messages
by Peter Chubb Nov. 29, 2025

Nov. 29, 2025

Hi Folks, Is there a way from the Web UI to find all lists with held messages? I'm site owner and admin for a domain; I'd like to see all the held messages for all the lists in that domain, so I can gently encourage moderators to do their jobs .. and to stand in when they're away or otherwise cannot release held messages in a timely manner. To do this I want to see all held messages, and the lists they are meant for. Right now, to see which lists have held messages means clicking on each list name n turn. which can take a long time, even for the couple of dozen lists we have. Peter C

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Use own mail server
by johannes.wolf＠kaaw.de Nov. 28, 2025

Nov. 28, 2025

Hi there, we just installed mailman in our internal environment and want to use our own mailserver for sending the mails. Can someone explain which configuration i have to make in my mailman.cfg? I just set smtp_host and smtp_port which seems to work as the mailman server connects to my mailserver but it generates e-mails with blank recipients and headers. Maybe someone can give me a hint? Thanks and regards

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