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custom css?
by jamie＠mayfirst.org Nov. 7, 2025

Nov. 7, 2025

I've installed the mailman3, mailman3-full, mailman3-web, and python3-django-mailman3 packages on Debian trixie. Everything is working - thank you developers! However, I would like to modify how the web pages look (both postorius and hyperkitty). I noticed that the web interface on this server (lists.mailman3.org) looks much nicer than the one showing on my server. For one, on my installed instance, the left and right margins are not set, so content is flush with the edge of the screen. What is the easiest/most maintainable way to add my own css code and/or files to adjust how the web interface is displayed? Is that possible? Thank you! jamie

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Cannot Create New List
by dap1＠bellsouth.net Nov. 7, 2025

Nov. 7, 2025

I'm trying to create a list (on Ubuntu) and I'm getting this: <venv> $ python3 Python 3.12.3 (main, Aug 14 2025, 17:47:21) [GCC 13.3.0] on linux Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> owners = ['xxxx(a)ddddddddd.net'] >>> from mailman.app.lifecycle import create_list >>> ant = create_list('llllllllllllll(a)dddddddd.net', owners) Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mailman/app/lifecycle.py", line 74, in create _list getUtility(IEmailValidator).validate(fqdn_listname) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/zope/component/_api.py", line 180, in getUtil ity raise ComponentLookupError(interface, name) zope.interface.interfaces.ComponentLookupError: (<InterfaceClass mailman.interfaces.address.IEmailVa lidator>, '')

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Block members from sending cc's and bcc's
by Cathryn McGuire Nov. 7, 2025

Nov. 7, 2025

Hi everyone, Using Mailman 3 with Affinity web interface and we want to stop our members from sending to cc: or bcc: We've found the Header Filter and cc and bcc appear in it. Tried to configure it to "hold for moderation," but it hasn't worked. Partly because we don't understand what to put in the Pattern input box. I put in cc: because it requires something. Can anyone advise? Cheers, Cathryn

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mailman-web Cleaning Up a Few Issues
by dap1＠bellsouth.net Nov. 6, 2025

Nov. 6, 2025

I seems to be having a problem with some cronjobs not running; I'm getting the following email errors/warnings: Subject: Cron <www-data@dap002> [ -f /usr/bin/django-admin ] && flock -n /var/run/mailman3-web/cron.minutely /usr/share/mailman3-web/manage.py runjobs minutely Body: flock: cannot open lock file /var/run/mailman3-web/cron.minutely: No such file or directory Obviously there is a path specified wrong but I can't find where that is. Subject: Cron <mailman@dap002> /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web runjobs minutely Body: System check identified some issues: WARNINGS: ?: settings.ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD is deprecated, use: settings.ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'username', 'email'} ?: settings.ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED is deprecated, use: settings.ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS = ['email*', 'username*', 'password1*', 'password2*'] Again I could probably fix these if I knew where to look.

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FW: lists.arun@gmail.com's bounce score incremented on Degrowcali
by Christian Stalberg Nov. 6, 2025

Nov. 6, 2025

Whenever I post to this list I get quite a few of these bounce score messages. How can I obtain a list of actual unsubcribes based on bounce scores to remaining subscribers please? What can I do to stop this behavior please? -----Original Message----- From: noreply(a)lists.ccalternatives.org <noreply(a)lists.ccalternatives.org> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2025 5:30 AM To: degrowcali-owner(a)lists.ccalternatives.org Subject: lists.arun(a)gmail.com's bounce score incremented on Degrowcali lists.arun(a)gmail.com's bounce score on degrowcali(a)lists.ccalternatives.org has been incremented. The triggering DSN if available is attached.

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update problems in virtualenv
by Christian H. Kuhn Nov. 6, 2025

Nov. 6, 2025

Hi all, i followed https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html and ran in different problems. Here's the first. All mailman-web runjobs report: System check identified some issues: WARNINGS: ?: settings.ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD is deprecated, use: settings.ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'username', 'email'} ?: settings.ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED is deprecated, use: settings.ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS = ['email*', 'username*', 'password1*', 'password2*'] I get those eMails every minute which is a bit annoying. (venv) mailman@bywater:~/mm/var/data$ python -m pip --version pip 25.3 from /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/pip (python 3.13) (venv) mailman@bywater:~/mm/var/data$ python --version Python 3.13.3 (venv) mailman@bywater:~/mm/var/data$ python -m pip --version pip 25.3 from /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/pip (python 3.13) (venv) mailman@bywater:~/mm/var/data$ pip list --outdated Package Version Latest Type ------- ------- ------ ----- mailman 3.3.9 3.3.10 wheel (venv) mailman@bywater:~/mm/var/data$ pip install --upgrade mailman==3.3.10 Collecting mailman==3.3.10 Using cached mailman-3.3.10-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (2.4 kB) Requirement already satisfied: aiosmtpd>=1.4.3 in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (1.4.6) Requirement already satisfied: alembic!=1.7.0,>=1.6.2 in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (1.17.1) Requirement already satisfied: atpublic in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (6.0.2) Requirement already satisfied: authheaders>=0.16 in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (0.16.3) Requirement already satisfied: authres>=1.0.1 in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (1.2.0) Requirement already satisfied: click>=8.0.0 in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (8.3.0) Requirement already satisfied: dnspython>=1.14.0 in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (2.8.0) Requirement already satisfied: falcon>=3.1.3 in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (4.1.0) Requirement already satisfied: flufl.bounce>=4.0 in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (4.0) Requirement already satisfied: flufl.i18n>=3.2 in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (5.2.0) Requirement already satisfied: flufl.lock>=5.1 in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (8.2.0) Requirement already satisfied: gunicorn in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (23.0.0) Requirement already satisfied: lazr.config in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman==3.3.10) (3.1) INFO: pip is looking at multiple versions of mailman to determine which version is compatible with other requirements. This could take a while. ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement nntplib; python_version >= "3.13" (from mailman) (from versions: none) ERROR: No matching distribution found for nntplib; python_version >= "3.13" standard-nntplib 3.13.0 is installed. How can i get rid of those mails? TIA QNo

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Internal server error instead of web interface
by Christian H. Kuhn Nov. 5, 2025

Nov. 5, 2025

Hi all, https://lists.qno.de/mailman3 shows an internal server error. I followed https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html with MariaDB instead of PostgreSQL. Python 3.13.0 pip 25.3 mailman 3.3.11b mailman-web 0.0.10.dev14?g0997bd postorius 1.3.13 Services mailman3, mailmanweb, apache2, uwsgi up and running. uwsgi listens on [::1]:8000, apache2 is configured accordingly. Ports show up in netstat. No errors show in logs. If /mailman3 was a directory, i would have thought of user permission problems. But not with TCP ports. As :8000 is available, i would have thought that there is a problem with uwsgi. Requests arrive there and are processed: [pid: 3185672|app: 0|req: 10/17] ::1 () {28 vars in 409 bytes} [Mon Nov 3 13:24:05 2025] GET /mailman3/ => generated 5038 bytes in 28 msecs (HTTP/1.0 200) 8 headers in 261 bytes (1 switches on core 0) So uwsgi gets the request and delivers data. The problem seems that apache2 does not get the result, and i cannot find any reason. Any help? TIA QNo

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mailqueue shows bounces for emails that are not on the mailing list
by Paul Nov. 5, 2025

Nov. 5, 2025

Iam getting alot of such from my mail server mail queue lately4d08rT4xMHzMCD6S 2393 Mon Nov 3 01:43:21 list-bounces+makeupbymichelle=aol.com(a)lists.mydomain(host mx-aol.mail.gm0.yahoodns.net[67.195.228.84] said: 421 4.7.0 [TSS04] Messages from my-mail-server-IP temporarily deferred due to unexpected volume or user complaints - 4.16.55.1; see https://postmaster.yahooinc.com/error-codes (in reply to MAIL FROM command))makeupbymichelle(a)aol.com 4d0GJJ3TLhzMCDHH 2378 Mon Nov 3 05:49:20 list2-bounces+lolaann09=yahoo.com(a)lists.mydomain(host mta5.am0.yahoodns.net[67.195.228.94] said: 421 4.7.0 [TSS04] Messages from my-mail-server-IP temporarily deferred due to unexpected volume or user complaints - 4.16.55.1; see https://postmaster.yahooinc.com/error-codes (in reply to MAIL FROM command))lolaann09(a)yahoo.comThis is becoming problematic because am currently being blocked on Yahoo domains. My setup is as follows: I host mailman3 list server which uses our mail server as a relay.The spam emails i.e makeupbymichelle(a)aol.com and lolaann09(a)yahoo.com are neither members nor non members of the lists which are generating the bounces.I have also confirmed that none of the list members are forwarding to any of those spam addresses.What am I missing?Thank you.

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Cannot Install Web UI
by Dennis Putnam Nov. 2, 2025

Nov. 2, 2025

I'm trying to install the web UI for mailman3. I am getting the following failure. Can someone help? TIA. (venv) mailman :~$ pip install mailman-web mailman-hyperkitty Collecting mailman-web Downloading mailman_web-0.0.9-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (3.2 kB) Collecting mailman-hyperkitty Downloading mailman-hyperkitty-1.2.1.tar.gz (22 kB) Preparing metadata (setup.py) ... done Collecting django<4.3,>=4.0 (from mailman-web) Downloading django-4.2.25-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (4.2 kB) Collecting hyperkitty (from mailman-web) Downloading hyperkitty-1.3.12-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (3.6 kB) Collecting postorius (from mailman-web) Downloading postorius-1.3.13-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (2.9 kB) Collecting whoosh (from mailman-web) Downloading Whoosh-2.7.4-py2.py3-none-any.whl.metadata (3.1 kB) Requirement already satisfied: mailman in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman-hyperkitty) (3.3.10) Requirement already satisfied: requests in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman-hyperkitty) (2.32.5) Requirement already satisfied: zope.interface in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman-hyperkitty) (8.0.1) Requirement already satisfied: asgiref<4,>=3.6.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from django<4.3,>=4.0->mailman- web) (3.10.0) Requirement already satisfied: sqlparse>=0.3.1 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from django<4.3,>=4.0->mailman-we b) (0.5.3) Collecting django-compressor>=1.3 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_compressor-4.5.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl.metadata (5.0 kB) Collecting django-extensions>=1.3.7 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_extensions-4.1-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (6.1 kB) Collecting django-gravatar2>=1.0.6 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_gravatar2-1.4.5-py2.py3-none-any.whl.metadata (4.3 kB) Collecting django-haystack>=2.8.0 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_haystack-3.3.0.tar.gz (467 kB) ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 467.3/467.3 kB 3.8 MB/s eta 0:00:00 Installing build dependencies ... done Getting requirements to build wheel ... done Preparing metadata (pyproject.toml) ... done Collecting django-q2>=1.0.0 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_q2-1.8.0-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (9.5 kB) Collecting django_mailman3>=1.3.13 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_mailman3-1.3.15-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (5.4 kB) Collecting djangorestframework>=3.0.0 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading djangorestframework-3.16.1-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (11 kB) Requirement already satisfied: flufl.lock>=4.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) (8. 2.0) Collecting mailmanclient>=3.3.3 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading mailmanclient-3.3.5.tar.gz (89 kB) ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 89.6/89.6 kB 1.2 MB/s eta 0:00:00 Preparing metadata (setup.py) ... done Collecting mistune>=3.0 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading mistune-3.1.4-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (1.8 kB) Collecting networkx>=2.0 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading networkx-3.5-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (6.3 kB) Requirement already satisfied: python-dateutil>=2.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from hyperkitty->mailman-web ) (2.9.0.post0) Collecting robot-detection>=0.3 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading robot-detection-0.4.tar.gz (6.4 kB) Preparing metadata (setup.py) ... done Requirement already satisfied: aiosmtpd>=1.4.3 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (1.4.6) Requirement already satisfied: alembic!=1.7.0,>=1.6.2 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hype rkitty) (1.17.0) Requirement already satisfied: atpublic in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (6.0.2 ) Requirement already satisfied: authheaders>=0.16 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitt y) (0.16.3) Requirement already satisfied: authres>=1.0.1 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (1.2.0) Requirement already satisfied: click>=8.0.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (8 .3.0) Requirement already satisfied: dnspython>=1.14.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitt y) (2.8.0) Requirement already satisfied: falcon>=3.1.3 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) ( 4.1.0) Requirement already satisfied: flufl.bounce>=4.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitt y) (4.0) Requirement already satisfied: flufl.i18n>=3.2 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (5.2.0) Requirement already satisfied: gunicorn in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (23.0. 0) Requirement already satisfied: lazr.config in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (3. 1) Requirement already satisfied: passlib in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (1.7.4) Requirement already satisfied: sqlalchemy>=1.4.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitt y) (2.0.44) Requirement already satisfied: zope.component in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (7.0) Requirement already satisfied: zope.configuration in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkit ty) (7.0) Requirement already satisfied: zope.event in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (6.0 ) Collecting readme_renderer[md] (from postorius->mailman-web) Downloading readme_renderer-44.0-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (2.8 kB) Requirement already satisfied: charset_normalizer<4,>=2 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from requests->mailman-h yperkitty) (3.4.4) Requirement already satisfied: idna<4,>=2.5 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from requests->mailman-hyperkitty) ( 3.11) Requirement already satisfied: urllib3<3,>=1.21.1 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from requests->mailman-hyperki tty) (2.5.0) Requirement already satisfied: certifi>=2017.4.17 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from requests->mailman-hyperki tty) (2025.10.5) Requirement already satisfied: attrs in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from aiosmtpd>=1.4.3->mailman->mailman-hype rkitty) (25.4.0) Requirement already satisfied: Mako in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from alembic!=1.7.0,>=1.6.2->mailman->mailma n-hyperkitty) (1.3.10) Requirement already satisfied: typing-extensions>=4.12 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from alembic!=1.7.0,>=1.6 .2->mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (4.15.0) Requirement already satisfied: dkimpy>=0.7.1 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from authheaders>=0.16->mailman->ma ilman-hyperkitty) (1.1.8) Requirement already satisfied: publicsuffix2 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from authheaders>=0.16->mailman->ma ilman-hyperkitty) (2.20191221) Collecting django-appconf>=1.0.3 (from django-compressor>=1.3->hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_appconf-1.1.0-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (5.2 kB) Collecting rcssmin==1.1.2 (from django-compressor>=1.3->hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading rcssmin-1.1.2-cp312-cp312-manylinux1_x86_64.whl.metadata (4.5 kB) Collecting rjsmin==1.2.2 (from django-compressor>=1.3->hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading rjsmin-1.2.2-cp312-cp312-manylinux1_x86_64.whl.metadata (4.4 kB) Requirement already satisfied: packaging in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from django-haystack>=2.8.0->hyperkitty ->mailman-web) (25.0) Collecting django-allauth>=0.63 (from django-allauth[openid,socialaccount]>=0.63->django_mailman3>=1.3.13->hyperkitty->m ailman-web) Downloading django_allauth-65.12.1.tar.gz (2.0 MB) ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 2.0/2.0 MB 7.1 MB/s eta 0:00:00 Installing build dependencies ... done Getting requirements to build wheel ... done Preparing metadata (pyproject.toml) ... done Collecting django-picklefield<4.0,>=3.1 (from django-q2>=1.0.0->hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_picklefield-3.3-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (12 kB) Requirement already satisfied: psutil in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from flufl.lock>=4.0->hyperkitty->mailman- web) (7.1.0) Requirement already satisfied: six>=1.5 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from python-dateutil>=2.0->hyperkitty->m ailman-web) (1.17.0) Requirement already satisfied: greenlet>=1 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from sqlalchemy>=1.4.0->mailman->mail man-hyperkitty) (3.2.4) Requirement already satisfied: setuptools in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from lazr.config->mailman->mailman-hyp erkitty) (80.9.0) Requirement already satisfied: lazr.delegates in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from lazr.config->mailman->mailman -hyperkitty) (2.1.1) Collecting nh3>=0.2.14 (from readme_renderer[md]->postorius->mailman-web) Downloading nh3-0.3.1-cp38-abi3-manylinux_2_17_x86_64.manylinux2014_x86_64.whl.metadata (466 bytes) Collecting docutils>=0.21.2 (from readme_renderer[md]->postorius->mailman-web) Downloading docutils-0.22.2-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (15 kB) Collecting Pygments>=2.5.1 (from readme_renderer[md]->postorius->mailman-web) Downloading pygments-2.19.2-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (2.5 kB) Collecting cmarkgfm>=0.8.0 (from readme_renderer[md]->postorius->mailman-web) Downloading cmarkgfm-2025.10.20.tar.gz (145 kB) ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 145.8/145.8 kB 2.2 MB/s eta 0:00:00 Installing build dependencies ... done Getting requirements to build wheel ... error error: subprocess-exited-with-error × Getting requirements to build wheel did not run successfully. │ exit code: 1 ╰─> [41 lines of output] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pip/_vendor/pyproject_hooks/_in_process/_in_process.py", li ne 353, in <module> main() File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pip/_vendor/pyproject_hooks/_in_process/_in_process.py", li ne 335, in main json_out['return_val'] = hook(**hook_input['kwargs']) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pip/_vendor/pyproject_hooks/_in_process/_in_process.py", li ne 118, in get_requires_for_build_wheel return hook(config_settings) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/build_meta.py", line 331, in g et_requires_for_build_wheel return self._get_build_requires(config_settings, requirements=[]) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/build_meta.py", line 301, in _ get_build_requires self.run_setup() File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/build_meta.py", line 317, in r un_setup exec(code, locals()) File "<string>", line 5, in <module> File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/__init__.py", line 115, in set up return distutils.core.setup(**attrs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/_distutils/core.py", line 148, in setup _setup_distribution = dist = klass(attrs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/dist.py", line 321, in __init_ _ _Distribution.__init__(self, dist_attrs) File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/_distutils/dist.py", line 309, in __init__ self.finalize_options() File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/dist.py", line 784, in finaliz e_options ep(self) File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/dist.py", line 804, in _finali ze_setup_keywords ep.load()(self, ep.name, value) File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cffi/setuptools_ext.py", line 229, in cff i_modules add_cffi_module(dist, cffi_module) File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cffi/setuptools_ext.py", line 50, in add_ cffi_module execfile(build_file_name, mod_vars) File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cffi/setuptools_ext.py", line 26, in exec file exec(code, glob, glob) File "src/cmarkgfm/build_cmark.py", line 21, in <module> with open(CMARK_DEF_H_PATH, encoding='utf-8') as fh: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pip-install-y364_cvm/cmarkgfm_9fcba25730114ac4a08d1e 7733112a45/src/cmarkgfm/cmark.cffi.h' [end of output] note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a problem with pip. error: subprocess-exited-with-error × Getting requirements to build wheel did not run successfully. │ exit code: 1 ╰─> See above for output. note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a problem with pip.

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"Something went wrong | Mailman REST API not available. Please restart Mailman core.
by Hirayama, Pat Oct. 31, 2025

Oct. 31, 2025

Greetings, Some of my lists have started displaying this behavior — when you try to access the list page(s), you get a page with this message: Something went wrong Mailman REST API not available. Please restart Mailman core. My mailman-core docker container is running, as are mailman-django-uwsgi, mailman-nginx and mailman-postfix. Restarting the containers doesn't change this behavior. Google suggests restarting mailman core. Or that we might not be using the correct account name, password or port. The weird thing is that it is not all lists. Most of them seem to be fine. Which suggests to me that the issue is with a few lists, but not systemwide, so I think my settings in mailman.cfg, settings.py, settings_local.py are likely correct. For the problem lists, I see this in the log: ERROR 2025-10-29 18:38:56,784 7 postorius Mailman REST API not available ERROR 2025-10-29 18:38:56,790 7 django.request Service Unavailable: /postorius/lists/obfuscated.name.lists.fhcrc.org/ ERROR 2025-10-29 18:38:56,790 7 django.request Service Unavailable: /postorius/lists/obfuscated.name.lists.fhcrc.org/ So, Postorius can't communicate with the API, I guess? I look at settings_local.py: MAILMAN_REST_API_URL = 'http://mailman-core:8001' I believe 8001 is the default, and since I haven't specified one in the [webservice] section of mailman.cfg, I'm assuming 8001 is correct (plus, it works for other lists). There are a few messages waiting for moderator approval — otherwise, I'd probably try just deleting the list and recreating it. Anyone have any suggestions on what else I should look at? Thanks! -p Pat Hirayama Pronouns: he/him/his Systems Engineer IT | Systems Engineering - Infrastructure Fred Hutch Cancer Center O 206.667.4856 phirayam(a)fredhutch.org<mailto:phirayam@fredhutch.org>

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Archive not working - Reg.
by nirmal＠iitm.ac.in Oct. 29, 2025

Oct. 29, 2025

After sending mail to a list, it is not reflecting back in Hyperkitty archive. Kindly help me in this regard.

4 7

Mailman 3 MFA with django-allauth[mfa]
by Liam Reilly Oct. 29, 2025

Oct. 29, 2025

Has anyone successfully got MFA working in Mailman 3 with django-allauth[mfa]? I'm struggling to get it working with the limited documentation I could find. (https://docs.allauth.org/en/dev/mfa/index.html) If signed in as a user, I can browse to /accounts/2fa/ to activate MFA, but I was hoping to make it a mandatory part of the Sign Up process. Is there something that needs to be done with the URLs somewhere? This list site is an example of how I'd like it to work: https://mailing-lists.imperial.ac.uk/ Here is what I added to settings.py: #---------------------------------------- INSTALLED_APPS= ['hyperkitty', 'postorius', 'django_mailman3', 'django.contrib.admin', 'django.contrib.auth', 'django.contrib.contenttypes', 'django.contrib.sessions', 'django.contrib.sites', 'django.contrib.messages', 'django.contrib.staticfiles', 'django.contrib.humanize', 'rest_framework', 'django_gravatar', 'compressor', 'haystack', 'django_extensions', 'django_q', 'allauth', 'allauth.account', 'allauth.mfa', 'allauth.socialaccount'] # Specifies the adapter class to use, allowing you to alter certain default behaviour. MFA_ADAPTER = "allauth.mfa.adapter.DefaultMFAAdapter" # Used to override forms. Defaults to: MFA_FORMS = { 'authenticate': 'allauth.mfa.forms.AuthenticateForm', 'reauthenticate': 'allauth.mfa.forms.AuthenticateForm', 'activate_totp': 'allauth.mfa.forms.ActivateTOTPForm', 'deactivate_totp': 'allauth.mfa.forms.DeactivateTOTPForm', } MFA_RECOVERY_CODE_COUNT = 10 MFA_TOTP_PERIOD = 30 MFA_TOTP_DIGITS = 6 #---------------------------------------- Thanks.

2 1

Disable automatic bouncing globally?
by jkoral＠luc.edu Oct. 28, 2025

Oct. 28, 2025

Is there a way to disabled the automatic bouncing globally on all lists or do I have to do that on each individual list?

2 3

Password reset/confirm email page formatting
by Reilly, Liam Oct. 22, 2025

Oct. 22, 2025

Hi, Does anyone else experience this where the pages for password reset/verify email lack formatting. Not sure what the cause might be as all other pages are fine. Please see attached images. Thanks. [cid:image001.png@01DC435D.8CB42CF0] [cid:image002.png@01DC435D.8CB42CF0] ___________________________________________ Mailman's content filtering has removed the following MIME parts from this message. Content-Type: image/png Name: image001.png Content-Type: image/png Name: image002.png Replaced multipart/alternative part with first alternative.

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Configuring Web Front End
by Dennis Putnam Oct. 21, 2025

Oct. 21, 2025

The next layer of the onion is configuring the web front end. Specifically setting up Django. The documentation seems to make a lot of assumptions about what I know about Django (which is nothing). I cannot find anything about what 'settings.py' should look like for mailman3. It is not even clear where it should go (/opt/mailman/var/etc?). The Django setup documentation is of no help for mailman3. Am I missing something in the wiki?

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Migrating to Mailman3
by dap1＠bellsouth.net Oct. 20, 2025

Oct. 20, 2025

I am about to migrate from mailma2 on CentOS to mailman3 on Ubuntu. Are there any special gotchas of which I need to be aware? TIA.

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Unprocessed Bounce Mails from user with e-mailadresse with a "-" in it
by Wikinaut Oct. 14, 2025

Oct. 14, 2025

The recipient address abc-given.name(a)online.de (member of list mylist(a)myserver.de) has currently an out of office responder and mails are returning to my mailman3 system as unrecognized bounce messages. I suspect the "-" in his address to be in conflict with the bounce address hyphen: <mylist-bounces+abc-given.name=online.de(a)myserver.de> Can any of you experts try on their systems, whether this a bug of mailman3 due to the "-" in the address? Systeminfo: Mailman Core-Version GNU Mailman 3.3.10 (Tom Sawyer) Mailman Core API-Version 3.1 Mailman Core Python-Version 3.11.2 (main, Apr 28 2025, 14:11:48) [GCC 12.2.0]

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default processing
by Sam Darwin Oct. 13, 2025

Oct. 13, 2025

Notice the repeated use of the word "default" (which is a great word, by the way). This creates confusion: Default action to take when this member posts to the list. List default -- follow the list's default member action. Default Processing -- run additional checks and accept the message. Due to backwards compatibility it may be difficult to change. But if it could be modified, how about: Action to take when this member posts to the list. List default -- follow the list's default member action. Standard Processing -- run additional checks and accept the message. In other words, in the context of message acceptance, the word "default" should have a certain selected meaning. Then make extra effort to choose other words for other actions, as proposed here, "Standard Processing", or something similar.

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Mailmanweb RAM Usage
by Odhiambo Washington Oct. 12, 2025

Oct. 12, 2025

Using the uwsgi.ini from the virtualenv method documentation, mailmanweb is constantly using 2GB RAM on my server. My database (MariaDB) size is 2GB. Is this expected? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

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Can't subscribe on new site/domain
by Flo Oct. 11, 2025

Oct. 11, 2025

Hi, I added a new site in Django: lists.example.com Usually I click on 'view site' and I can add a Domain in Postorios. In this case I get an error message and I need to add a Domain in Django. Then I can go to 'view site'. I can create a mailing list there. However when I send an email to be subscribed, I get the following in mailman.log (and nothing else happens): Oct 09 13:46:24 2025 (110452) deque: do_confirm_verify Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/workflow.py", line 69, in __next__ return step() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/subscriptions.py", line 379, in _step_send_confirmation notify(SubscriptionConfirmationNeededEvent( ~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ self.mlist, self.token, self.address.email)) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/zope/event/__init__.py", line 33, in notify subscriber(event) ~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/subscriptions.py", line 669, in handle_SubscriptionConfirmationNeededEvent _handle_confirmation_needed_events(event, 'list:user:action:subscribe') ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/subscriptions.py", line 638, in _handle_confirmation_needed_events confirm_address = event.mlist.confirm_address(event.token) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/model/mailinglist.py", line 335, in confirm_address local_part = expand(config.mta.verp_confirm_format, self, dict( address='{}-confirm'.format(self.list_name), cookie=cookie)) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/string.py", line 69, in expand if mlist.domain.base_url is not None: ^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/model/mailinglist.py", line 279, in domain return getUtility(IDomainManager)[self.mail_host] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/model/domain.py", line 177, in __getitem__ raise KeyError(mail_host) KeyError: 'lists.example.com' Oct 09 13:46:24 2025 (110452) Uncaught runner exception: 'lists.example.com' Oct 09 13:46:24 2025 (110452) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/runner.py", line 179, in _one_iteration self._process_one_file(msg, msgdata) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/runner.py", line 272, in _process_one_file keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/runners/command.py", line 214, in _dispose status = command.process( mlist, msg, msgdata, parts, results) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/commands/eml_membership.py", line 122, in process ISubscriptionManager(mlist).register(subscriber, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^ delivery_mode=delivery_mode) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/subscriptions.py", line 584, in register list(workflow) ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/workflow.py", line 69, in __next__ return step() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/subscriptions.py", line 379, in _step_send_confirmation notify(SubscriptionConfirmationNeededEvent( ~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ self.mlist, self.token, self.address.email)) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/zope/event/__init__.py", line 33, in notify subscriber(event) ~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/subscriptions.py", line 669, in handle_SubscriptionConfirmationNeededEvent _handle_confirmation_needed_events(event, 'list:user:action:subscribe') ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/subscriptions.py", line 638, in _handle_confirmation_needed_events confirm_address = event.mlist.confirm_address(event.token) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/model/mailinglist.py", line 335, in confirm_address local_part = expand(config.mta.verp_confirm_format, self, dict( address='{}-confirm'.format(self.list_name), cookie=cookie)) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/string.py", line 69, in expand if mlist.domain.base_url is not None: ^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/model/mailinglist.py", line 279, in domain return getUtility(IDomainManager)[self.mail_host] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/model/domain.py", line 177, in __getitem__ raise KeyError(mail_host) KeyError: 'lists.example.com' Oct 09 13:46:24 2025 (110452) SHUNTING: 1760010384.7617948+270daab1a93851be76e09ce6b976f78ec6232ca2 If I write a subscription email to any list of any other domain/site, I get back the request of confirmation and nothing in mailman.log. And there is another difference to other sites: I get shown all lists of all sites/domains and not only the ones which belongs to this site/domain. What could I have done wrong here? I really don't get it. Thanks for help. Flo

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Mailman Core - Log Rotation
by Odhiambo Washington Oct. 9, 2025

Oct. 9, 2025

Did people agree on the accepted (standard) way for rotating mailman.log? I request that it be added to the official documentation. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

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Confirmation Mail not getting after logging in
by nirmal＠iitm.ac.in Oct. 9, 2025

Oct. 9, 2025

I have installed mailman3. But after logging in I am not getting confirmation mail. The message displayed is hereby follows:- example.com Search all lists Sign In Sign Up Manage lists ×Confirmation e-mail sent to nirmal(a)iitm.ac.in. Verify Your E-mail Address We have sent an e-mail to you for verification. Follow the link provided to finalize the signup process. If you do not see the verification e-mail in your main inbox, check your spam folder. Please contact us if you do not receive the verification e-mail within a few minutes. Powered by HyperKitty version 1.3.7.

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REST API: create list: list styles
by Peter Knowles Oct. 7, 2025

Oct. 7, 2025

I've read that List Styles are essentially python plugins and/or hard coded into the source... Ugh. I was wondering, instead of hacking together some Python code, as I'm a humble PHP dev... Is it possible... 1. To pass all "style" values to the REST API upon creating a list "manually"? Essentially setting all the options on creation. 2. Where can I find a full list of options that can be set on a list, and their accepted values (boolean, string, etc) Thanks in advance!

2 1

Sendgrid experiences
by Andrew Hodgson Oct. 6, 2025

Oct. 6, 2025

Hi. I am temporarily using Sendgrid now on my Mailman instance. Initial observations have been positive. A list with 100 users is racking up email delivers though, I am on the basic paid account which gives me 50k emails per month. I was hoping to use a cheaper provider and pay overage costs per email on the assumption that I'm seeing a spike in traffic today because people have started getting the messages again. Sendgrid is maintaining the Message-Id header which is good for archiving. It is re-writing the Return-Path header though which means that bounce handling in Mailman won't work, but I think all the services do this in some way so I am happy to live with that for the moment. Hope this helps. Andrew.

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Mailman3 equivalent of list_owners binary
by l.reilly＠ucl.ac.uk Oct. 3, 2025

Oct. 3, 2025

Hi, In our Mailman 2 environment we have a script that uses the binaries 'mailman/bin/list_owners' and 'mailman/bin/sync_members' to keep a list of owners up to date. This is handy for sending out service notifications to all list owners. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an exact equivalent in Mailman 3 for list_owners. I've tried using the command 'mailman members --role administrator LISTSPEC' whilst looping through each list from the output of 'mailman lists'. It almost does the job, but in cases where an owner has a display name set the sync fails as it cannot parse these lines. e.g. Cannot parse as valid email address (skipping): Smith, John <john.smith(a)example.com> I can probably try to clean the output of "mailman members" before doing 'mailman syncmembers'. I just wondered if anybody is doing something similar and has a better approach I'm missing? Thanks

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deleting a list of spammers from non-member list
by Philip Bondi Oct. 2, 2025

Oct. 2, 2025

Hello to all: I've studied the following: https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/d… ```bash mailman shell -l mmlist.domain.ca << EOF | tr , '\012' > nonmember.txt list(m.nonmembers.members) EOF ``` I was able to produce a clean list of 50 non-member email addresses that are spammers. How would I take this list of non-members and delete them? I was unable to use mailman delmembers

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Login confusion
by Markus Grandpré Oct. 2, 2025

Oct. 2, 2025

Dear list, We've encountered an issue with Postorius after migrating from Mailman 2.1. It appears that Postorius is treating email addresses with differing capitalization as distinct user accounts. For example, <markus.grandpre(a)uni-konstanz.de> and <Markus.Grandpre(a)uni-konstanz.de> are being recognized as separate identities. This is causing significant confusion. Users registered with one capitalization pattern are not seeing the list subscriptions and settings that were previously associated with their account (imported from Mailman v2.1) which used a different capitalization. Is there a known configuration option or method within Postorius (or Mailman 3 itself) to normalize or unify account identification, effectively treating email addresses as case-insensitive for account matching? We need a solution that ensures users see their correct list memberships regardless of the capitalization they use when logging in or that was used during the original Mailman 2.1 import. Thank you in advance Markus -- Markus Ludwig Grandpré Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung IT-Dienste Forschung und Lehre, B803, Tel: ++49 7531 88 4342

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Auto discard after max_days_to_hold not working.
by Hitashi mancho Sept. 30, 2025

Sept. 30, 2025

Dear all, I have migrated around 300 mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3. In most of the mailing lists we have configured "max_days_to_hold" to 2. It was working fine in Mailman 2. However, it is not working in Mailman 3. Mailman version: GNU Mailman 3.3.10 (Tom Sawyer) Python 3.11.9 Rocky Linux 9.5 Crontab: @daily /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman digests --periodic 00 08 * * * /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman notify * * * * * /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web runjobs minutely 0,15,30,45 * * * * /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web runjobs quarter_hourly @hourly /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web runjobs hourly @daily /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web runjobs daily @weekly /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web runjobs weekly @monthly /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web runjobs monthly @yearly /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web runjobs yearly Please guide me in this regard. Regards, Hitachi.

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Managing mailman3 via curl (using bash-scripts or perl-scripts)
by Christian Schneider Sept. 30, 2025

Sept. 30, 2025

Hello Mark, hello Stephen, sorry for bothering again...but the amount of documentation is overwhelming... Some info about my setup: I run mailman3 in an virtual environment with postgresql-Server (all in recent versions) - operating system Ubuntu 24.04-LTS. My aim is to provide one high-level script for the daily task of list creation. - list creation via command-line script with two/three parameters like: ./create-list --listname myfirst.list(a)lists.example.org --admin-email admin-user(a)example.org [--admin-name "Peter Rabbit"] The create-list script itself should be a bash- or perl-script (I am not very familiar with python - SORRY ;-) ) I would like the scripts to trigger some curl-calls on the mailman server (from outside the mailman shell and even from outside the virtual environment) Reading the RestAPI documentation here: https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/… several questions arise: 1) Can I succeed with this plan? (Are curl-calls sufficient? Is it possible from outside the virtual environment?) 2) Is this a viable curl-call to create a user?: curl -X POST -u 'admin-user:<password>' -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d '{ "email": "peter.rabbit(a)example.org", "display_name": "Peter Rabbit", "password": "secret" }' http://localhost:8001/3.1/users 3) and in a second step can I assign this user to a list as owner with a curl-call like this?: curl -X POST -u 'admin-user:<password>' -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d '{ "list_id": "newsletter.lists.example.org", "subscriber": "peter.rabbit(a)example.org", "role": "owner" }' http://localhost:8001/3.1/members 4) What about the commits that are used while operating in mailman shell? (Do I have to trigger commits while operating via curl-calls? And how can I trigger commits via curl?) 5) In the unlikely event that I change from the dark side to the good side i.e. "python programming" ;-) is there a "to-the-point" reference for IListManager, IUserManager etc. giving available functions (with parameters) in a kind of list way? (the example kind of documentation referenced above is good, but where can I find a list of all functions?) 6) I think the starting point for managing lists with python is here: https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/d… right? 7) Going the python way will require to enter the virtual environment, right? (otherwise the libraries, environment variables etc. are not available...I think) Thank you for some guidance here... :-) Kind regards Chris

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Reg Archive Inactive Status
by nirmal＠iitm.ac.in Sept. 29, 2025

Sept. 29, 2025

I am sending the mail to lists. But in Archive It is showing inactive and no mails are there in archives. Kindly help in this regard.

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LDAP Authentication in Mailman3
by nirmal＠iitm.ac.in Sept. 29, 2025

Sept. 29, 2025

Sir, Please give me the steps to configure the LDAP Authentication in Mailman3. Thank You

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How well does DMARC mitigation work nowadays?
by tom＠tomsmyth.ca Sept. 28, 2025

Sept. 28, 2025

Specifically the kind where all list emails come from the the same address, with the sender in Reply-To? It seems like this /should/ be the way it works. Isn't that what Reply-To is for? Do some email clients still mess it up? If they do, wouldn't it make sense to just send them a bounce notice and tell them to clean up their act? Context: considering moving to a paid email service like Mailgun or Twilio and having random unverified email addresses in the From: header seems to be a nonstarter for them, which makes sense.

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CSV Export in Postorius only export email addresses but no names
by Flo Sept. 28, 2025

Sept. 28, 2025

Hi, I want to export the addresses of a mailing list in Postorius. At the List Members section I found 'CSV Export'. However it only exports the email addresses without the names. Is there a trick to make this happen? Thank you. Flo

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Discrepancy in date time of archived message
by Mark Sept. 26, 2025

Sept. 26, 2025

Mailman Core Version GNU Mailman 3.3.10 (Tom Sawyer) Mailman Core API Version 3.1 Mailman Core Python Version 3.11.2 (main, Sep 14 2024, 03:00:30) [GCC 12.2.0] Installation VENV Hi, I have a message posted to a list on 25 September at 20:57 UTC. The server is set to UTC and the date command shows it has the correct date and time. And I received the message ---- 25 September at 20:57 UTC But the message is shown (incorrectly) in the archive as having been posted on 26 September at 8:57 a.m. (out by +12 hours) It should be shown as 25 September 8:57 p.m. Any pointers on where I can adjust/correct this date/time setting for future posts? Thanks, Mark D

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The MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY was not sent as the Authorization HTTP header.
by Marco Marinello Sept. 23, 2025

Sept. 23, 2025

Hi everybody, as per subject, I'm getting this error in the hyperkitty log when mailman daemon tries to archive a mail. I've setup the hyperkitty.cfg file with api_key = MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY in settings_local.py but still nothing. I've seen here and in GitLab issues some errors concerning a wrong api key but here it says that it wasn't sent at all. All packages installed via pip install + latest .zip release, including mailman-hyperkitty. Currently running on apache with mod_wsgi_py3 without https. Any clue? All the best, Marco Marinello

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After server upgrade debian 11→12 and reinstalling everything in (venv), I got this error when accessing → mailman3/lists
by Wikinaut Sept. 23, 2025

Sept. 23, 2025

File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/connection.py", line 160, in call raise HTTPError(params.get('url'), response.status_code, urllib.error.HTTPError: HTTP Error 500: {"title": "500 Internal Server Error"} ERROR 2025-08-16 19:26:03,720 6588 django.request Internal Server Error: /mailman3/lists/mylist.myserver.tld Can anyone help? Other things do work, including archives, users, domains etc.

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Settings, Message Acceptance, Discard these non-members
by Philip Bondi Sept. 22, 2025

Sept. 22, 2025

Hello to all: We receive quite a bit of spam. I try to maintain some regular expressions in "Discard these non-members" to block spammers. Where would the "discard" notification be logged? I think the docs say "mailman.log". What would I search for?

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Settings | Alter Messages, Settings | DMARC Mitigations
by Philip Bondi Sept. 22, 2025

Sept. 22, 2025

Hello to all: I thought I should share. We have: Anonymous List: No DMARC mitigation action: Wrap the message in an outer message From: the list. But our message weren't being wrapped. After I period of months, I experimented. Now I've realized that "DMARC wrapped message text" must contain some message. Now our messages are wrapped.

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/etc/logrotate.d/mailman3 and issue #931
by Philip Bondi Sept. 21, 2025

Sept. 21, 2025

Hello to everyone: You are all superheroes. Thank you for your coaching. I would like to share my experience with this post https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… I still had issue #931 after suggested work-around, so I used the following: /opt/mailman/venv_mm/var/logs/*.log { daily dateext rotate 90 maxage 90 missingok sharedscripts postrotate if [ -r /opt/mailman/venv_mm/var/master.pid ]; then #sudo -u mailman /opt/mailman/venv_mm/bin/mailman restart &>/dev/null || true systemctl restart mailmanweb mailman3 fi if [ -r /opt/mailman/venv_mm/var/gunicorn.pid ]; then PID=`cat /opt/mailman/venv_mm/var/gunicorn.pid` kill -s USR1 $PID fi endscript }

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Need to mass remove all unsubscription requests from server
by zachr＠mta.ca Sept. 19, 2025

Sept. 19, 2025

Thanks in advance for any help! I tried the steps in this post: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… But I tried changing the 'pend-type' to 'unsubscription' and 'un-subscription' neither of which worked: >>> pendings = getUtility(IPendings) >>> for token, data in pendings.find( ... token_owner=TokenOwner.subscriber, ... pend_type='un-subscription'): ... pendings.confirm(token, expunge=True) ... >>> commit() I would like to remove all un-subscription requests from all lists on the server. Cheers

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Postfix and Rspamd reject all Mailman messages after upgrading to Mailcow 2025-09b
by Jesper Holck Sept. 18, 2025

Sept. 18, 2025

Thanks for looking into this. I'm sorry to admit that I unfortunately mixed up two apparently unrelated issues. The first of these was some problem, where my mailman-installation was unable to send mails to some subscribers. The mails were rejected with SPOOFED_UNAUTH messages - I will not deal with this here. My installation is based on Debian 12 (Bookworm), with dockerized versions of Mailcow and Mailman 3 as described here: https://docs.mailcow.email/third_party/mailman3/third_party-mailman3/ The server is a VM, running on Proxmox. Mailcow and Mailman are on the same VM. It took a little time for me to setup things correctly, but mostly it seemed to work nicely. But a week ago it stopped working - I guess because I upgraded Mailcow to 2025-09b. The problem for me right now is that Rspamd rejects all messages, coming from Mailman. Postfix receives mails coming to the mailing lists, but when Mailman tries to forward the mails to the subscribers, Postfix/Rspamd block all of them. Postfix/Rspamd also block mails sent directly from Mailman, such as Welcome-messages - see an example below. In Mailcow, I have under "Options" added 172.19.199.1/24 as a "Forwarding Host" with no spam filter. I hoped this would make Rspamd happy, but apparently not. All messages, sent directly from Mailcow, pass various on-line tests of SSL, SPF, DKIM, and DMARC, and are accepted by other servers (Gmail, Hotmail etc.). All web-interfaces to Mailcow and Mailman work fine. Messages to the various lists are archived, but not sent to the subscribers. Any help appreciated :-) Jesper Example of rspamd rejecting a welcome message from Mailman: HFILTER_HOSTNAME_UNKNOWN (8.5) DMARC_POLICY_QUARANTINE (8) [mydomain.dk : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM, quarantine] R_SPF_FAIL (8) [-all] HFILTER_HELO_BADIP (4.5) [172.19.199.4, 1] VIOLATED_DIRECT_SPF (3.5) FORGED_W_BAD_POLICY (3) RDNS_NONE (2) SUBJ_EXCESS_QP (1.2) MIME_BASE64_TEXT_BOGUS (1) MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN (0.5) MIME_BASE64_TEXT (0.1) RBL_SENDERSCORE_REPUT_9 (-1) [172.19.199.1:from] MAILLIST (-0.2) [mailman] MIME_GOOD (-0.1) [text/plain] HAS_LIST_UNSUB (-0.01) BAYES_HAM (-0.005474) [42.14%] BCC (0) FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST (0) ARC_SIGNED (0) [mydomain.dk:s=dkim:i=1] TO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM (0) FORGED_SENDER (0) [mylist-request(a)mydomain.dk, mylist-bounces(a)mydomain.dk] RCPT_COUNT_ONE (0) [1] FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM (0) [mylist-request(a)mydomain.dk, mylist-bounces(a)mydomain.dk] MISSING_XM_UA (0) R_DKIM_NA (0) FROM_NO_DN (0) ARC_NA (0) TO_DN_ALL (0) RCVD_COUNT_ZERO (0) [0] TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL (0) MIME_TRACE (0) [0:+] PRECEDENCE_BULK (0) I don't know how to see the exact contains, including headers, of this message, unfortunately. My understanding is that e.g. DKIM-headers should be provided my Mailcow, not by Mailman itself. Below are contents of various files that may be relevant: Contents of /opt/docker-mailman/docker-compose.yaml: version: '2' services: mailman-core: image: maxking/mailman-core:0.4 # Use a specific version tag (tag latest is not published) container_name: mailman-core hostname: mailman-core restart: unless-stopped volumes: - /opt/mailman/core:/opt/mailman/ stop_grace_period: 30s links: - database:database depends_on: database: condition: service_healthy environment: - DATABASE_URL=postgresql://mailman:mailmanpass@database/mailmandb - DATABASE_TYPE=postgres - DATABASE_CLASS=mailman.database.postgresql.PostgreSQLDatabase - HYPERKITTY_API_KEY=someapikey ports: - "127.0.0.1:8001:8001" # API - "127.0.0.1:8024:8024" # LMTP - incoming emails networks: mailman: (lines cut here) networks: mailman: driver: bridge ipam: driver: default config: - subnet: 172.19.199.0/24 Contents of /opt/docker-mailman/docker-compose.override.yaml: version: '2' services: mailman-core: environment: - DATABASE_URL=postgresql://mailman:vbxsV0Rx7Srqyirc6HzfX6H4qRjo1s@database/mailmandb - HYPERKITTY_API_KEY=3lKR1K6eLuuTA5vxhjQbUGZus8WioQ - TZ=Europe/Berlin - MTA=postfix restart: always networks: - mailman (lines cut here) Contents of /opt/mailcow-dockerized/docker-compose.yml: services: (lines cut here) rspamd-mailcow: image: ghcr.io/mailcow/rspamd:2.3 stop_grace_period: 30s depends_on: - dovecot-mailcow - clamd-mailcow environment: - TZ=${TZ} - IPV4_NETWORK=${IPV4_NETWORK:-172.22.1} - IPV6_NETWORK=${IPV6_NETWORK:-fd4d:6169:6c63:6f77::/64} - REDIS_SLAVEOF_IP=${REDIS_SLAVEOF_IP:-} - REDIS_SLAVEOF_PORT=${REDIS_SLAVEOF_PORT:-} - REDISPASS=${REDISPASS} - SPAMHAUS_DQS_KEY=${SPAMHAUS_DQS_KEY:-} volumes: - ./data/hooks/rspamd:/hooks:Z - ./data/conf/rspamd/custom/:/etc/rspamd/custom:z - ./data/conf/rspamd/override.d/:/etc/rspamd/override.d:Z - ./data/conf/rspamd/local.d/:/etc/rspamd/local.d:Z - ./data/conf/rspamd/plugins.d/:/etc/rspamd/plugins.d:Z - ./data/conf/rspamd/lua/:/etc/rspamd/lua/:ro,Z - ./data/conf/rspamd/rspamd.conf.local:/etc/rspamd/rspamd.conf.local:Z - ./data/conf/rspamd/rspamd.conf.override:/etc/rspamd/rspamd.conf.override:Z - rspamd-vol-1:/var/lib/rspamd restart: always hostname: rspamd dns: - ${IPV4_NETWORK:-172.22.1}.254 networks: mailcow-network: aliases: - rspamd (lines cut here) postfix-mailcow: image: ghcr.io/mailcow/postfix:1.81 depends_on: mysql-mailcow: condition: service_started unbound-mailcow: condition: service_healthy postfix-tlspol-mailcow: condition: service_started volumes: - ./data/hooks/postfix:/hooks:Z - ./data/conf/postfix:/opt/postfix/conf:z - ./data/assets/ssl:/etc/ssl/mail/:ro,z - postfix-vol-1:/var/spool/postfix - crypt-vol-1:/var/lib/zeyple - rspamd-vol-1:/var/lib/rspamd - mysql-socket-vol-1:/var/run/mysqld/:z environment: - LOG_LINES=${LOG_LINES:-9999} - TZ=${TZ} - DBNAME=${DBNAME} - DBUSER=${DBUSER} - DBPASS=${DBPASS} - REDIS_SLAVEOF_IP=${REDIS_SLAVEOF_IP:-} - REDIS_SLAVEOF_PORT=${REDIS_SLAVEOF_PORT:-} - REDISPASS=${REDISPASS} - MAILCOW_HOSTNAME=${MAILCOW_HOSTNAME} - SPAMHAUS_DQS_KEY=${SPAMHAUS_DQS_KEY:-} cap_add: - NET_BIND_SERVICE ports: - "${SMTP_PORT:-25}:25" - "${SMTPS_PORT:-465}:465" - "${SUBMISSION_PORT:-587}:587" restart: always dns: - ${IPV4_NETWORK:-172.22.1}.254 networks: mailcow-network: ipv4_address: ${IPV4_NETWORK:-172.22.1}.253 aliases: - postfix (lines cut here) netfilter-mailcow: image: ghcr.io/mailcow/netfilter:1.62 stop_grace_period: 30s restart: always privileged: true environment: - TZ=${TZ} - IPV4_NETWORK=${IPV4_NETWORK:-172.22.1} - IPV6_NETWORK=${IPV6_NETWORK:-fd4d:6169:6c63:6f77::/64} - SNAT_TO_SOURCE=${SNAT_TO_SOURCE:-n} - SNAT6_TO_SOURCE=${SNAT6_TO_SOURCE:-n} - REDIS_SLAVEOF_IP=${REDIS_SLAVEOF_IP:-} - REDIS_SLAVEOF_PORT=${REDIS_SLAVEOF_PORT:-} - REDISPASS=${REDISPASS} - MAILCOW_REPLICA_IP=${MAILCOW_REPLICA_IP:-} - DISABLE_NETFILTER_ISOLATION_RULE=${DISABLE_NETFILTER_ISOLATION_RULE:-n} network_mode: "host" volumes: - /lib/modules:/lib/modules:ro (lines cut here) networks: mailcow-network: driver: bridge driver_opts: com.docker.network.bridge.name: br-mailcow enable_ipv6: ${ENABLE_IPV6:-true} ipam: driver: default config: - subnet: ${IPV4_NETWORK:-172.22.1}.0/24 - subnet: ${IPV6_NETWORK:-fd4d:6169:6c63:6f77::/64} (lines cut here) Contents of /opt/mailcow-dockerized/docker-compose.override.yml: services: postfix-mailcow: volumes: - /opt/mailman:/opt/mailman networks: - docker-mailman_mailman rspamd-mailcow: # https://docs.mailcow.email/post_installation/firststeps-dmarc_reporting/ environment: - MASTER=${MASTER:-y} labels: ofelia.enabled: "true" ofelia.job-exec.rspamd_dmarc_reporting_yesterday.schedule: "@every 24h" ofelia.job-exec.rspamd_dmarc_reporting_yesterday.command: "/bin/bash -c \"[[ $${MASTER} == y ]] && /usr/bin/rspamadm dmarc_report $(date --date yesterday '+%Y%m%d') > /var/lib/rspamd/dmarc_reports_last_log 2>&1 || exit 0\"" ofelia-mailcow: depends_on: - rspamd-mailcow networks: docker-mailman_mailman: external: true On Monday, September 15, 2025 10:23 CEST, "Stephen J. Turnbull" <steve(a)turnbull.jp> wrote: jesper.holck--- via Mailman-users writes: > My problem is not related to anonymous lists. But messages from my > lists are blocked by mailcow/rspamd, unless I set "DMARC mitigation > action" to "Wrap the message in an outer message From: the list". > Here is an example: We really need to see the corresponding headers. We also need to know more about the configuration of your network (including VMs and containers), and where you're sending mail from. If you are going to substitute IP addresses, I recommend you do that consistently, and with a convention that it makes is easy to identify the public Internet (I use 10/8 addresses for this), your internal network (I use 172.16/12), and the Mailman host(s) (I use 192.168/16 addresses -- these are all just suggestions, and I've never had a problem ignoring the effect of netmasks on routing).[1] I'm going to reorder the list for clarity. > HFILTER_HOSTNAME_UNKNOWN (8.5) > HFILTER_HELO_BADIP (4.5) [172.19.199.3, 1] > RDNS_NONE (2) I guess "HFILTER" refers to the HELO command sent by Mailman to mailcow. "host 172.19.199.3" is a private IP address, so I suspect you are using Docker with multiple containers (different hosts as far as the mail software is concerned). I suspect you need to set up or reconfigure an internal DNS, or configure some kind of host list in Mailcow, to clear this. IIRC rspamd defaults to "reject on >= 15" so if RDNS is part of this group (I'm just guessing), this message is already rejected. > DMARC_POLICY_QUARANTINE (8) [mydomain.dk : No valid SPF, quarantine] Apparently you have p=quarantine for mydomain.dk. Mail from mydomain.dk will need to have DMARC mitigation of some kind. > R_SPF_FAIL (8) [-all] > R_DKIM_REJECT (8) [anotherdomain.dk:s=selector1] I'd say these are normal, except that between them "reject > 15" is going to reject your message. I would guess that's an rspamd misconfiguration. Also, nothing in your description explains why anotherdomain.dk is signing the message. Is that your personal email provider where you send test messages? > VIOLATED_DIRECT_SPF (3.5) > FORGED_W_BAD_POLICY (3) Not sure what these mean, but the numbers are too big to ignore. Perhaps they'll be fixed in passing if you fix the issues above. > HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1 (2) You can't do much about this, but if your posters are using short links you might see if you can adjust that deduction down in rspamd. Everything below is either favorable or you can ignore it as normal. > ARC_REJECT (0.1) [signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:mydomain.dk:reject}] > RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST (0.1) > MIME_BASE64_TEXT (0.1) > BAYES_SPAM (0.00002) [21.41%] > RBL_SENDERSCORE_REPUT_9 (-1) [172.19.199.1:from] > MAILLIST (-0.2) [mailman] > MIME_GOOD (-0.1) [multipart/mixed, multipart/related, multipart/alternative, text/plain] > HAS_LIST_UNSUB (-0.01) > FROM_HAS_DN (0) > RCPT_COUNT_ONE (0) [1] > FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM (0) [test(a)mydomain.dk, test-bounces(a)mydomain.dk] > TO_EQ_FROM (0) > FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST (0) > RCVD_COUNT_THREE (0) [3] > HAS_REPLYTO (0) [Jesper.Holck(a)anotherdomain.dk] > PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED (0) [test(a)mydomain.dk] > REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM (0) > REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_TO_DOM (0) > TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL (0) > FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST (0) > DKIM_TRACE (0) [anotherdomain.dk:-] > MISSING_XM_UA (0) > FORGED_SENDER (0) [test(a)mydomain.dk, test-bounces(a)mydomain.dk] > MIME_TRACE (0) [0:+, 1:+, 2:+, 3:+, 4:~, 5:~, 6:+] > TAGGED_RCPT (0) > BCC (0) Footnotes: [1] I use 10/8, 172.16/12), and 192.168/16 addresses, respectively, for public, internal, and Mailman nodes. I've never had a problem ignoring the effect of netmasks on routing, it's all directly addressable. This works because when you've got a Docker network or similar, you can have network problems, but you'd never get to rspamd. These are all just suggestions, of course. -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan

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HSTS Missing from HTTPS Server
by jkoral＠luc.edu Sept. 17, 2025

Sept. 17, 2025

In my configuration, I am using Apache to reverse proxy the requests to a uwsgi. After our security office scanned the server, it was shown that HSTS is missing from the HTTPS server. The instructions say to add some lines to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/. The only file in there is 000-default.conf that holds the configuration, but the VirtualHost is port 80. I am using an F5 to to automatically redirect port 80 to port 443, but it is still showing this vulnerability. My question is, how can enable the Virtual Host for 443 on the server? Or can that configuration be located somewhere else? Or can I just create a new Virtual Host with the added configuration for mailman? Thanks, Joe Koral

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How to subscribe members without sending unsubscribe message
by Flo Sept. 16, 2025

Sept. 16, 2025

Hi, I need to remove subscribed members without sending them an unsubscription message. Despite of my research I haven't figured out how to do this using the GUI. Can anyone help? Flo

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Problems with SPOOFED_UNAUTH
by M.Ede Sept. 15, 2025

Sept. 15, 2025

Hello everyone, I use mailman together with mailcow and have configured my mailing list as follows: - Anonymous list: Yes - DMARC mitigation action: Replace From: with list address - DMARC Mitigate unconditionally: Yes My problem is that my emails are not being accepted by mailcow (rspamd) with the error SPOOFED_UNAUTH (50.00) In the out-queue of mailman the headers look like this: [QUOTE] Authentication-Results: <my.mailserv.er>; dkim=none; spf=pass (<my.mailserv.er>: domain of sender(a)t-online.de designates 194.25.134.81 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=sender(a)t-online.de; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=t-online.de ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.<list.domain>; s=dkim; t=1757400255; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zmDaIaGeCj1IT8TuP4aJmXRbfyNHV3LqjIfHveVMS0M=; b=Im4F/mpchty4CJvvcW4ZqxMl0BRNnybjcmkPboUSuodopd7nOXaesj3w6kgIwZkLHn1uHY FOiSSjyfZ8Zu0/w4l4Du5uoij2qDCEYHvGFhEugFizE9HJ71i7x0SzoEVSZ9uve6sqnWaE X8+GqtCE+vf0TLLeKhXKHJaBdltbMSqO+QT0BOlbmOdvmUCy6MIqysocTod9io5/+CQOgd SSvsSdDq00CG1IBUsg0Tm2rSf/L2bpGD3bl7QEBKS2id7NeLFM/Zme/3mkHo0N/u7m47xy XSLS9R0C3Kg/YxHY8ctPt7Yas6fwYfzGAOXRvVJz1eeXSrl8B5vWfzJ8+WrE5Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; <my.mailserv.er>; dkim=none; spf=pass (<my.mailserv.er>: domain of sender(a)t-online.de designates 194.25.134.81 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=sender(a)t-online.de; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=t-online.de ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=lists.<list.domain>; t=1757400255; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=yrD6cRE7c/L/v8D76U5Ohn57/MJ7/VsObkzQdAHbFny5DbyEO8pZvM0VCVYA5hUGXqoqoU nnKpEW6/CqvNIZmsS9hKzQQEdO5yIzNnyYjARcW5w5MpAlkMjmH3dQ68mLIS9SUyXUsoXj m1zAeYmdTjZWQOiYanaNJLRuxCWSFQHOpAljZe/lZt+4llNNA01YqirqGBRe6uMaJoebe6 2ubsHTr6VlfTrBrdFqLLSWyRBls+e0JwOd2jGahaQ6/ZIf4l1dOqdaUHSq31RjEDAiofmK IGeKC97iu3r9LiFsjICyi+/yedMGbwSeyyFMzz+cAV7wM84eWfSx2S2kPP1c9Q== [END QUOTE] When the email arrives at rspamd for verification, the DKIM header is added, but there is also the entry: arc=reject ("signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:lists.list.domain:reject}"): [QUOTE] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.list.domain; s=dkim; t=1757413251; h=from:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-language:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=jH/b69qzW7O+s5h3yE2MxKTwFLElX7b39ILc9yHGhkc=; b=AApU4mb2iuN9u1lYTrIKIcPnB4jzXDX+8vC+2/WwHC8JvCukiR2Std5k3E10cuAyYFhPVk zn6AWY+s6c6HKslDn0RiO3i9QYRLAY5MESxvj0tKO1dKDMz+A8RdcOf4kdO4hDr0DQBf7v yQLLnLjgK8QpZdW8MrlfxcQpQ9XrlyP2GX+ntFh5vDl7frNPXQfnBMoo+l0DIs6SWQuaFX ikrOiISYKugL8TmWXnGohXiAM84W/JT0lvP/Lmt3NjxlyNsAWpHQz736LphydY4r5/JjHI of99pRcbTvEmkZogthHFaXMOG2sDGxGwlIc3+oIUHoXqyY+VLsBQs8FzjR+eaw== Authentication-Results: <my.mailserv.er>; arc=reject ("signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:lists.list.domain:reject}") ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.list.domain; s=dkim; t=1757413249; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QSqNoTMweT1jo6F77TLHa+Nh7a0n/g9qDOsUTT8KpQ4=; b=rDgMC26uNsyTPgmddqQOiUsJh25KUa69TeMJfekVn5sFOnvhQdoa9LCogRMMKzJomA0wu6 CCdi6jGJpjtJdzB7PQ8UhQbeFiOUy9JNswFxQ+Qk1GXBxgN892C6KL/DiB/VW1j1nL0xOk Tc0BNC1zH1/MG2hB332t6u/rjWO+PtxIznAdcCP29AhO39RWWY/J0c/CHCOoqFYKCEf1ZH J4Wqeu9ANF44cPwopuJzJioWts6JKRvAM5TjnInZ+HaSv5QmuHvdI0fWvh272O3vGfvEPc iG1QsJS9XWpzkymRjYWo6h1c4/eY7eZd4FEzSR/TtW6Ud9b04A5lUmPpEvTxlQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; <my.mailserv.er>; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=t-online.de; spf=pass (<my.mailserv.er>: domain of sender(a)t-online.de designates 194.25.134.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=sender(a)t-online.de [END QUOTE] What am I still doing wrong? Can you help me, which setting is still missing? What informations are you still missing? Thanks for your help, Matthias

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Internal Server Error: /mailman3/postorius/lists/.../held_messages - humanize: where to put?
by Flo Sept. 15, 2025

Sept. 15, 2025

Hi, I have setup in Debian Trixie mailman3-full and came that far, that I have created a mailing list. I can sent emails to the members. However when I send from an email which is non-member the message is held. If I want to accept this message as list admin, I get: `An error occurred while processing your request.` And I get an email: `Internal Server Error: /mailman3/postorius/.../held_messages TemplateSyntaxError at /postorius/lists/.../held_messages 'humanize' is not a registered tag library. Must be one of: account admin_list admin_modify admin_urls allauth bootstrap_tags cache compress d_gravatar date_helpers debugger_tags decorate gravatar highlight highlighting hk_generic hk_haystack i18n indent_text l10n log markdown membership_helpers more_like_this nav_helpers p_gravatar pagination postorius_helpers rest_framework socialaccount static syntax_color tz widont Request Method: GET Request URL: https://.../mailman3/postorius/lists/.../held_messages Django Version: 4.2.23 Python Executable: /usr/bin/uwsgi-core Python Version: 3.13.5 Python Path: ['.', '', '/usr/lib/python313.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.13', '/usr/lib/python3.13/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python3.13/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/setuptools/_vendor'] . . .` humanize is in the INSTALLED_APPS section in /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings.py. In this file I I configured Django. However it's not in the Python path as written in the error email above. So maybe I have to find a different settings file. Can anyone advise me where I can find the error I have in my configuration? Thanks in advance. Flo

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Postgres upgrade from 13 to 16?
by Dave McGuire Sept. 14, 2025

Sept. 14, 2025

Hi folks, we're running a decent-sized MM3 server backed by a Postgres database server that is also used by a number of other applications. It's currently running Postgres 13, and we are looking at upgrading to 16. Can anyone tell me what the implications of such an upgrade be in the context of Mailman3? Any gotchas? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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2.1 -> 3 migration without mboxes?
by David Romerstein Sept. 12, 2025

Sept. 12, 2025

Hey, folks. I've searched the list archive but haven't found a relevant thread yet. Any pointers would be helpful. I have a handful of lists in a 2.1 instance for which I have web archives but not original .mbox files. Is there a way to migrate those lists, including the years of archives, to 3?

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Issues sending to gmail and yahoo e-mails
by jkoral＠luc.edu Sept. 12, 2025

Sept. 12, 2025

Has anyone experienced recent issues with Mailman3 not being able to send to gmail and yahoo e-mail addresses. I am trying to figure out if Google has our server blocked or not. When I send a manual e-mail from the server, the my yahoo e-mail gets delivered, but the gmail one does not. Here is the message I get in the logs when trying to send to the gmail address from the command line, but I do not get anything when it tries to send from Mailman. 2025-09-09T18:57:09.344493-05:00 lstprdls01 postfix/smtp[3544622]: BE67F1C09AF: to=<jmjk(a)gmail.com>, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[173.194.194.26]:25, delay=0.55, delays=0.01/0/0.27/0.27, dsn=5.7.26, status=bounced (host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[173.194.194.26] said: 550-5.7.26 Your email has been blocked because the sender is unauthenticated. 550-5.7.26 Gmail requires all senders to authenticate with either SPF or DKIM. 550-5.7.26 550-5.7.26 Authentication results: 550-5.7.26 DKIM = did not pass 550-5.7.26 SPF [lstprdls01.xxx.xxx.edu] with ip: [xxx.xxx.10.33] = did not pass 550-5.7.26 550-5.7.26 For instructions on setting up authentication, go to 550 5.7.26 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication 8926c6da1cb9f-50d8f268ab7si36484097173.142 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)) I added DMARC mitigation to this list with "Replace From: with list address" and "DMARC Mitigate unconditinally - Yes" The DMARC Address I have in there is ^.*(a)gmail\.com$ Do I have to do anything else? Restart any services or anything?

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Hyperkitty Text/Markdown/HTML
by Sam Darwin Sept. 11, 2025

Sept. 11, 2025

How about a feature to include "HTML" in the current Hyperkitty choices of (Text or Markdown) rendering? A sanitizer must be used to prevent malicious attacks. https://github.com/messense/nh3 . lxml is another package that processes html. A sanitizer would be helpful for more aspects. Permit a limited set of markdown so that messages still appear professional. Gitlab/Github don't allow arbitrary fonts or font sizes, right? Mostly remove these tags. A way that code blocks could be presented: determine an established list of known codeblock styles. Configure the sanitizer to permit this range of fonts or styling elements. By allowing them through the filter, a code styling is rendered. (It is permitted/allowed to be rendered.) Even better, when the sanitizer recognizes the fonts, it replaces them with an "official" set of codeblock fonts. Otherwise, if other font tags are entirely removed, if they are missing, the email client or web ui will decide the font selection, and it will appear "standard". In order for both email clients and Hyperkitty to view the same result, the sanitizer should ideally be applied to outgoing emails as well as rendering in the UI. That means this feature would affect more than just Hyperkitty. (i.e. mailman-core). Although, that could be implemented as a separate step, until which time emails would get a full range of HTML, without sanitizing. In this scheme, ensure outgoing emails are multi-part MIME with plain text and html versions. Some of our users are really in favor of more formatting. Others prefer plain text. Those who prefer plain text have various arguments that HTML messages will be rendered badly, and won't be legible. Questions: 1. Would "multi-part MIME with plain text and html versions both" solve the problem for users who prefer plain text? 2. What percentage of email clients that support HTML formatting when sending will also include a plain text rendering of the same content in the outgoing message? 3. Is it usually the responsibility of a receiving mail client to be able to convert HTML to plain text if the user requests it? 4. When mailman-core receives and then sends out a message, can it receive HTML, generate a plain-text version, and then send both? Thoughts?

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After moving to a another server, mail footers show only this smart text "Cache content lost"
by Wikinaut Sept. 10, 2025

Sept. 10, 2025

After moving to a another server, mail footer shows only text "Cache content lost". I moved the two databases (mailman3, mailmanweb) to another server, but now my Mailinglist shows this in the footer, uh, what did I forget to move?

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