October 2025 - Mailman-users - lists.mailman3.org

Reason for Shunting
by Brian Carpenter Feb. 23, 2026

Feb. 23, 2026

Is there a way to determine why a message keeps ending up in the shunt queue? -- Brian Carpenter Harmonylists.com Emwd.com

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Internal Server Error: /mailman3/postorius/lists/.../held_messages - humanize: where to put?
by Flo Feb. 16, 2026

Feb. 16, 2026

Hi, I have setup in Debian Trixie mailman3-full and came that far, that I have created a mailing list. I can sent emails to the members. However when I send from an email which is non-member the message is held. If I want to accept this message as list admin, I get: `An error occurred while processing your request.` And I get an email: `Internal Server Error: /mailman3/postorius/.../held_messages TemplateSyntaxError at /postorius/lists/.../held_messages 'humanize' is not a registered tag library. Must be one of: account admin_list admin_modify admin_urls allauth bootstrap_tags cache compress d_gravatar date_helpers debugger_tags decorate gravatar highlight highlighting hk_generic hk_haystack i18n indent_text l10n log markdown membership_helpers more_like_this nav_helpers p_gravatar pagination postorius_helpers rest_framework socialaccount static syntax_color tz widont Request Method: GET Request URL: https://.../mailman3/postorius/lists/.../held_messages Django Version: 4.2.23 Python Executable: /usr/bin/uwsgi-core Python Version: 3.13.5 Python Path: ['.', '', '/usr/lib/python313.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.13', '/usr/lib/python3.13/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python3.13/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/setuptools/_vendor'] . . .` humanize is in the INSTALLED_APPS section in /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings.py. In this file I I configured Django. However it's not in the Python path as written in the error email above. So maybe I have to find a different settings file. Can anyone advise me where I can find the error I have in my configuration? Thanks in advance. Flo

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Phantom Email Address in Nonmember List
by Steve Brown Jan. 31, 2026

Jan. 31, 2026

Have an issue that is more of a puzzle than a problem. No real harm done. So don't spend much time on it if you don't recognize the issue. I am administrator for a small list, radg(a)lists.radg.us, hosted by Mailmanlists.net. They are trying hard to figure it out but so far unsuccessful. Looking at the headers of emails sent from steve(a)stevebrown.us to the list and boomeranged back to me, I see a line “X-MailFrom: bounce+66273f.99dcd9c-radg=lists.radg.us(a)stevebrown.xn--us-02t. I gather that it is designating the return path where a message would be sent if there was a delivery problem. From its position in the header, I suspect it is added as they pass through Mailgun, maybe related to DKIM. I am hoping you might know why that bounce address is recognized by Mailman 3 as a real address for my emails, but not for others, even from my wife’s computer traversing the same path from our home to the Mailman 3 server. The Mailman installation does get and process the post, but also puts the “bounce+,,,” address in its list of nonmembers. Mailmanlists.net hasn’t figured out the behavior. I can provide full header information if that would help. My understanding of how headers work is very limited. Steve Brown

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One-click unsubscribe?
by Jered Floyd Dec. 16, 2025

Dec. 16, 2025

I'm having a lot of problems with GMail delivery due to lack of "one-click unsubscribe" -- however that is quantified, which is not clear. In particular, there is an issue with the fact that Google ignores dots in email addresses. So I have many (MANY!) subscribers who try to use the List-Unsubscribe header target, but because they are subscribed as "idiotsubscriber(a)gmail.com" rather than "idiot.subscriber(a)gmail.com" (which they have since changed their sender to) they get a reject that they are not subscribed. These people are also far too unobservant to read the footer of every message that reads "You are subscribed as idiotsubscriber(a)gmail.com". Is there any way to provide personalized List-Unsubscribe header links, or have Mailman ignore dots in gmail.com addresses... or... anything? I'm finding reported spam percentages in the Google Postmaster Dashboard exceeding 0.1%, which causes massive delivery blocking to GMail-based subscribers. While I would gladly ban everyone who uses gmail, that sadly accounts for about half of the Internet today and would be incredibly unproductive. Thanks, --Jered

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Using clean_users.py
by Odhiambo Washington Dec. 8, 2025

Dec. 8, 2025

I have run clean_users.py with: DELETE_MAILMAN_USER = True DELETE_DJANGO_IF_MAILMAN = True However, when I go to https://mm3-site/mm/lists/listname.mm3-site/members/nonmember/ I still have hundreds of users listed despite the script having run and it showed hundreds of addresses removed. What might be the issue? I expect to NOT find anything listed as nonmembers. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

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Internal Server Error: /mailman3/accounts/fedora/login/
by Alain D D Williams Nov. 20, 2025

Nov. 20, 2025

Twice today I have received many (50+) emails like the one below. Many at about 1pm, then it stopped now I am getting them again. An Internet search does not bring up anything useful. The domain at the start of 'Request URL' varies as does the name of the list (in this example 'announce(a)leavesden.org') The domain of the list is not necessarily the same as the domain at the start of the URL. I can receive several in a minute. Anyone any idea ? ----- Forwarded message from root(a)bf2024.phcomp.co.uk ----- Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 22:19:12 -0000 From: root(a)bf2024.phcomp.co.uk To: root@localhost Subject: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /mailman3/accounts/fedora/login/ Internal Server Error: /mailman3/accounts/fedora/login/ TypeError at /accounts/fedora/login/ OpenIDProvider.get_server_settings() missing 1 required positional argument: 'endpoint' Request Method: GET Request URL: https://www.leavesden.org.uk/mailman3/accounts/fedora/login/?next=%2Fmailma… Django Version: 3.2.19 Python Executable: /usr/bin/uwsgi-core Python Version: 3.11.2 Python Path: ['.', '', '/usr/lib/python311.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.11', '/usr/lib/python3.11/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python3.11/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3.11/dist-packages'] Server time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 22:19:07 +0000 Installed Applications: ('hyperkitty', 'postorius', 'django_mailman3', 'django.contrib.admin', 'django.contrib.auth', 'django.contrib.contenttypes', 'django.contrib.sessions', 'django.contrib.sites', 'django.contrib.messages', 'django.contrib.staticfiles', 'rest_framework', 'django_gravatar', 'compressor', 'haystack', 'django_extensions', 'django_q', 'allauth', 'allauth.account', 'allauth.socialaccount', 'django_mailman3.lib.auth.fedora') Installed Middleware: ('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware', 'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware', 'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware', 'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware', 'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware', 'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware', 'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware', 'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware', 'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware', 'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware') Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py", line 47, in inner response = get_response(request) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 181, in _get_response response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/views/generic/base.py", line 70, in view return self.dispatch(request, *args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/views/generic/base.py", line 98, in dispatch return handler(request, *args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django_mailman3/lib/auth/fedora/views.py", line 56, in get return self.post(request, *args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django_mailman3/lib/auth/fedora/views.py", line 67, in post client = _openid_consumer( File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/socialaccount/providers/openid/views.py", line 27, in _openid_consumer server_settings = provider.get_server_settings(endpoint) Exception Type: TypeError at /accounts/fedora/login/ Exception Value: OpenIDProvider.get_server_settings() missing 1 required positional argument: 'endpoint' Request information: USER: AnonymousUser GET: next = '/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announce(a)leavesden.org.uk/2020/12/' process = 'login' POST: No POST data FILES: No FILES data COOKIES: No cookie data META: CONTEXT_DOCUMENT_ROOT = '/var/www/leavesden/html' CONTEXT_PREFIX = '' DOCUMENT_ROOT = '/var/www/leavesden/html' GATEWAY_INTERFACE = 'CGI/1.1' HTTPS = 'on' HTTP_ACCEPT = 'text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8' HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING = 'gzip' HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = 'en-us,en-gb,en;q=0.7,*;q=0.3' HTTP_CONNECTION = 'Keep-Alive' HTTP_HOST = 'www.leavesden.org.uk' HTTP_USER_AGENT = 'serpstatbot/2.1 (advanced backlink tracking bot; https://serpstatbot.com/; abuse(a)serpstatbot.com)' PATH = '/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin' PATH_INFO = '/accounts/fedora/login/' QUERY_STRING = 'next=%2Fmailman3%2Fhyperkitty%2Flist%2Fannounce%40leavesden.org.uk%2F2020%2F12%2F&process=login' REMOTE_ADDR = '144.76.69.39' REMOTE_PORT = '33902' REQUEST_METHOD = 'GET' REQUEST_SCHEME = 'https' REQUEST_URI = '/mailman3/accounts/fedora/login/?next=%2Fmailman3%2Fhyperkitty%2Flist%2Fannounce%40leavesden.org.uk%2F2020%2F12%2F&process=login' SCRIPT_FILENAME = 'proxy:uwsgi://localhost//accounts/fedora/login/' SCRIPT_NAME = '/mailman3' SCRIPT_URI = 'https://www.leavesden.org.uk/mailman3/accounts/fedora/login/' SCRIPT_URL = '/mailman3/accounts/fedora/login/' SERVER_ADDR = '85.119.82.114' SERVER_ADMIN = 'addw(a)phcomp.co.uk' SERVER_NAME = 'www.leavesden.org.uk' SERVER_PORT = '443' SERVER_PROTOCOL = 'HTTP/1.1' SERVER_SIGNATURE = '********************' SERVER_SOFTWARE = 'Apache/2.4.62 (Debian)' SSL_TLS_SNI = 'www.leavesden.org.uk' uwsgi.core = 1 uwsgi.node = b'bf2024.phcomp.co.uk' uwsgi.version = b'2.0.21-debian' wsgi.errors = <_io.TextIOWrapper name=2 mode='w' encoding='UTF-8'> wsgi.file_wrapper = <built-in function uwsgi_sendfile> wsgi.input = <uwsgi._Input object at 0x7f42defc8b50> wsgi.multiprocess = False wsgi.multithread = True wsgi.run_once = False wsgi.url_scheme = 'https' wsgi.version = '(1, 0)' Settings: Using settings module settings ABSOLUTE_URL_OVERRIDES = {} ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD = 'username_email' ACCOUNT_DEFAULT_HTTP_PROTOCOL = 'https' ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED = True ACCOUNT_EMAIL_VERIFICATION = 'mandatory' ACCOUNT_UNIQUE_EMAIL = True ADMINS = "(('Mailman Suite Admin', 'root@localhost'),)" ALLOWED_HOSTS = ['*'] APPEND_SLASH = True AUTHENTICATION_BACKENDS = "('django.contrib.auth.backends.ModelBackend', 'allauth.account.auth_backends.AuthenticationBackend')" AUTH_PASSWORD_VALIDATORS = '********************' AUTH_USER_MODEL = 'auth.User' BASE_DIR = '/usr/share/mailman3-web' CACHES = {'default': {'BACKEND': 'django.core.cache.backends.locmem.LocMemCache'}} CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_ALIAS = 'default' CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_KEY_PREFIX = '********************' CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_SECONDS = 600 COMPRESSORS = {'css': 'compressor.css.CssCompressor', 'js': 'compressor.js.JsCompressor'} COMPRESS_CACHEABLE_PRECOMPILERS = '()' COMPRESS_CACHE_BACKEND = 'default' COMPRESS_CACHE_KEY_FUNCTION = '********************' COMPRESS_CLEAN_CSS_ARGUMENTS = '' COMPRESS_CLEAN_CSS_BINARY = 'cleancss' COMPRESS_CLOSURE_COMPILER_ARGUMENTS = '' COMPRESS_CLOSURE_COMPILER_BINARY = 'java -jar compiler.jar' COMPRESS_CSS_HASHING_METHOD = 'mtime' COMPRESS_DATA_URI_MAX_SIZE = 1024 COMPRESS_DEBUG_TOGGLE = None COMPRESS_ENABLED = True COMPRESS_FILTERS = {'css': ['compressor.filters.css_default.CssAbsoluteFilter', 'compressor.filters.cssmin.rCSSMinFilter'], 'js': ['compressor.filters.jsmin.rJSMinFilter']} COMPRESS_JINJA2_GET_ENVIRONMENT = <function CompressorConf.JINJA2_GET_ENVIRONMENT at 0x7f42e6122700> COMPRESS_MINT_DELAY = 30 COMPRESS_MTIME_DELAY = 10 COMPRESS_OFFLINE = True COMPRESS_OFFLINE_CONTEXT = {'STATIC_URL': '/mailman3/static/'} COMPRESS_OFFLINE_MANIFEST = 'manifest.json' COMPRESS_OFFLINE_TIMEOUT = 31536000 COMPRESS_OUTPUT_DIR = 'CACHE' COMPRESS_PARSER = 'compressor.parser.AutoSelectParser' COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS = '()' COMPRESS_REBUILD_TIMEOUT = 2592000 COMPRESS_ROOT = '/var/lib/mailman3/web/static' COMPRESS_STORAGE = 'compressor.storage.CompressorFileStorage' COMPRESS_TEMPLATE_FILTER_CONTEXT = {'STATIC_URL': '/mailman3/static/'} COMPRESS_URL = '/mailman3/static/' COMPRESS_URL_PLACEHOLDER = '/__compressor_url_placeholder__/' COMPRESS_VERBOSE = False COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_BINARY = 'yuglify' COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_CSS_ARGUMENTS = '--terminal' COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_JS_ARGUMENTS = '--terminal' COMPRESS_YUI_BINARY = 'java -jar yuicompressor.jar' COMPRESS_YUI_CSS_ARGUMENTS = '' COMPRESS_YUI_JS_ARGUMENTS = '' CSRF_COOKIE_AGE = 31449600 CSRF_COOKIE_DOMAIN = None CSRF_COOKIE_HTTPONLY = False CSRF_COOKIE_NAME = 'csrftoken' CSRF_COOKIE_PATH = '/' CSRF_COOKIE_SAMESITE = 'Lax' CSRF_COOKIE_SECURE = False CSRF_FAILURE_VIEW = 'django.views.csrf.csrf_failure' CSRF_HEADER_NAME = 'HTTP_X_CSRFTOKEN' CSRF_TRUSTED_ORIGINS = [] CSRF_USE_SESSIONS = False DATABASES = {'default': {'ENGINE': 'django.db.backends.mysql', 'NAME': 'mailman3web', 'USER': 'mailman3web', 'PASSWORD': '********************', 'HOST': 'localhost', 'PORT': '', 'OPTIONS': {'init_command': "SET sql_mode='STRICT_TRANS_TABLES'", 'charset': 'utf8mb4'}, 'ATOMIC_REQUESTS': False, 'AUTOCOMMIT': True, 'CONN_MAX_AGE': 0, 'TIME_ZONE': None, 'TEST': {'CHARSET': None, 'COLLATION': None, 'MIGRATE': True, 'MIRROR': None, 'NAME': None}}} DATABASE_ROUTERS = [] DATA_UPLOAD_MAX_MEMORY_SIZE = 2621440 DATA_UPLOAD_MAX_NUMBER_FIELDS = 1000 DATA_UPLOAD_MAX_NUMBER_FILES = 100 DATETIME_FORMAT = 'N j, Y, P' DATETIME_INPUT_FORMATS = ['%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S', '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f', '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M', '%m/%d/%Y %H:%M:%S', '%m/%d/%Y %H:%M:%S.%f', '%m/%d/%Y %H:%M', '%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S', '%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S.%f', '%m/%d/%y %H:%M'] DATE_FORMAT = 'N j, Y' DATE_INPUT_FORMATS = ['%Y-%m-%d', '%m/%d/%Y', '%m/%d/%y', '%b %d %Y', '%b %d, %Y', '%d %b %Y', '%d %b, %Y', '%B %d %Y', '%B %d, %Y', '%d %B %Y', '%d %B, %Y'] DEBUG = False DEBUG_PROPAGATE_EXCEPTIONS = False DECIMAL_SEPARATOR = '.' DEFAULT_AUTO_FIELD = 'django.db.models.AutoField' DEFAULT_CHARSET = 'utf-8' DEFAULT_EXCEPTION_REPORTER = 'django.views.debug.ExceptionReporter' DEFAULT_EXCEPTION_REPORTER_FILTER = 'django.views.debug.SafeExceptionReporterFilter' DEFAULT_FILE_STORAGE = 'django.core.files.storage.FileSystemStorage' DEFAULT_FROM_EMAIL = 'mailman3(a)bf2024.phcomp.co.uk' DEFAULT_HASHING_ALGORITHM = 'sha256' DEFAULT_INDEX_TABLESPACE = '' DEFAULT_TABLESPACE = '' DISALLOWED_USER_AGENTS = [] EMAILNAME = 'bf2024.phcomp.co.uk' EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend' EMAIL_HOST = 'localhost' EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = '********************' EMAIL_HOST_USER = '' EMAIL_PORT = 25 EMAIL_SSL_CERTFILE = None EMAIL_SSL_KEYFILE = '********************' EMAIL_SUBJECT_PREFIX = '[Django] ' EMAIL_TIMEOUT = None EMAIL_USE_LOCALTIME = False EMAIL_USE_SSL = False EMAIL_USE_TLS = False FILE_UPLOAD_DIRECTORY_PERMISSIONS = None FILE_UPLOAD_HANDLERS = ['django.core.files.uploadhandler.MemoryFileUploadHandler', 'django.core.files.uploadhandler.TemporaryFileUploadHandler'] FILE_UPLOAD_MAX_MEMORY_SIZE = 2621440 FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSIONS = 420 FILE_UPLOAD_TEMP_DIR = None FILTER_VHOST = False FIRST_DAY_OF_WEEK = 0 FIXTURE_DIRS = [] FORCE_SCRIPT_NAME = None FORMAT_MODULE_PATH = None FORM_RENDERER = 'django.forms.renderers.DjangoTemplates' HAYSTACK_CONNECTIONS = {'default': {'ENGINE': 'haystack.backends.whoosh_backend.WhooshEngine', 'PATH': '/var/lib/mailman3/web/fulltext_index'}} HOSTNAME = 'localhost' IGNORABLE_404_URLS = [] INSTALLED_APPS = "('hyperkitty', 'postorius', 'django_mailman3', 'django.contrib.admin', 'django.contrib.auth', 'django.contrib.contenttypes', 'django.contrib.sessions', 'django.contrib.sites', 'django.contrib.messages', 'django.contrib.staticfiles', 'rest_framework', 'django_gravatar', 'compressor', 'haystack', 'django_extensions', 'django_q', 'allauth', 'allauth.account', 'allauth.socialaccount', 'django_mailman3.lib.auth.fedora')" INTERNAL_IPS = [] LANGUAGES = [('af', 'Afrikaans'), ('ar', 'Arabic'), ('ar-dz', 'Algerian Arabic'), ('ast', 'Asturian'), ('az', 'Azerbaijani'), ('bg', 'Bulgarian'), ('be', 'Belarusian'), ('bn', 'Bengali'), ('br', 'Breton'), ('bs', 'Bosnian'), ('ca', 'Catalan'), ('cs', 'Czech'), ('cy', 'Welsh'), ('da', 'Danish'), ('de', 'German'), ('dsb', 'Lower Sorbian'), ('el', 'Greek'), ('en', 'English'), ('en-au', 'Australian English'), ('en-gb', 'British English'), ('eo', 'Esperanto'), ('es', 'Spanish'), ('es-ar', 'Argentinian Spanish'), ('es-co', 'Colombian Spanish'), ('es-mx', 'Mexican Spanish'), ('es-ni', 'Nicaraguan Spanish'), ('es-ve', 'Venezuelan Spanish'), ('et', 'Estonian'), ('eu', 'Basque'), ('fa', 'Persian'), ('fi', 'Finnish'), ('fr', 'French'), ('fy', 'Frisian'), ('ga', 'Irish'), ('gd', 'Scottish Gaelic'), ('gl', 'Galician'), ('he', 'Hebrew'), ('hi', 'Hindi'), ('hr', 'Croatian'), ('hsb', 'Upper Sorbian'), ('hu', 'Hungarian'), ('hy', 'Armenian'), ('ia', 'Interlingua'), ('id', 'Indonesian'), ('ig', 'Igbo'), ('io', 'Ido'), ('is', 'Icelandic'), ('it', 'Italian'), ('ja', 'Japanese'), ('ka', 'Georgian'), ('kab', 'Kabyle'), ('kk', 'Kazakh'), ('km', 'Khmer'), ('kn', 'Kannada'), ('ko', 'Korean'), ('ky', 'Kyrgyz'), ('lb', 'Luxembourgish'), ('lt', 'Lithuanian'), ('lv', 'Latvian'), ('mk', 'Macedonian'), ('ml', 'Malayalam'), ('mn', 'Mongolian'), ('mr', 'Marathi'), ('my', 'Burmese'), ('nb', 'Norwegian Bokmål'), ('ne', 'Nepali'), ('nl', 'Dutch'), ('nn', 'Norwegian Nynorsk'), ('os', 'Ossetic'), ('pa', 'Punjabi'), ('pl', 'Polish'), ('pt', 'Portuguese'), ('pt-br', 'Brazilian Portuguese'), ('ro', 'Romanian'), ('ru', 'Russian'), ('sk', 'Slovak'), ('sl', 'Slovenian'), ('sq', 'Albanian'), ('sr', 'Serbian'), ('sr-latn', 'Serbian Latin'), ('sv', 'Swedish'), ('sw', 'Swahili'), ('ta', 'Tamil'), ('te', 'Telugu'), ('tg', 'Tajik'), ('th', 'Thai'), ('tk', 'Turkmen'), ('tr', 'Turkish'), ('tt', 'Tatar'), ('udm', 'Udmurt'), ('uk', 'Ukrainian'), ('ur', 'Urdu'), ('uz', 'Uzbek'), ('vi', 'Vietnamese'), ('zh-hans', 'Simplified Chinese'), ('zh-hant', 'Traditional Chinese')] LANGUAGES_BIDI = ['he', 'ar', 'ar-dz', 'fa', 'ur'] LANGUAGE_CODE = 'en-gb' LANGUAGE_COOKIE_AGE = None LANGUAGE_COOKIE_DOMAIN = None LANGUAGE_COOKIE_HTTPONLY = False LANGUAGE_COOKIE_NAME = 'django_language' LANGUAGE_COOKIE_PATH = '/' LANGUAGE_COOKIE_SAMESITE = None LANGUAGE_COOKIE_SECURE = False LOCALE_PATHS = [] LOGGING = {'version': 1, 'disable_existing_loggers': False, 'filters': {'require_debug_false': {'()': 'django.utils.log.RequireDebugFalse'}}, 'handlers': {'mail_admins': {'level': 'ERROR', 'filters': ['require_debug_false'], 'class': 'django.utils.log.AdminEmailHandler'}, 'file': {'level': 'INFO', 'class': 'logging.handlers.RotatingFileHandler', 'filename': '/var/log/mailman3/web/mailman-web.log', 'formatter': 'verbose'}, 'console': {'class': 'logging.StreamHandler', 'formatter': 'simple'}}, 'loggers': {'django.request': {'handlers': ['mail_admins', 'file'], 'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}, 'django': {'handlers': ['file'], 'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}, 'hyperkitty': {'handlers': ['file'], 'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}, 'postorius': {'handlers': ['file'], 'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}}, 'formatters': {'verbose': {'format': '%(levelname)s %(asctime)s %(process)d %(name)s %(message)s'}, 'simple': {'format': '%(levelname)s %(message)s'}}} LOGGING_CONFIG = 'logging.config.dictConfig' LOGIN_REDIRECT_URL = 'list_index' LOGIN_URL = 'account_login' LOGOUT_REDIRECT_URL = None LOGOUT_URL = 'account_logout' MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM = "('127.0.0.1', '::1')" MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY = '********************' MAILMAN_REST_API_PASS = '********************' MAILMAN_REST_API_URL = '********************' MAILMAN_REST_API_USER = '********************' MANAGERS = [] MEDIA_ROOT = '' MEDIA_URL = '/mailman3/' MESSAGE_STORAGE = 'django.contrib.messages.storage.fallback.FallbackStorage' MESSAGE_TAGS = {40: 'danger'} MIDDLEWARE = "('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware', 'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware', 'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware', 'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware', 'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware', 'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware', 'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware', 'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware', 'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware', 'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware')" MIGRATION_MODULES = {} MONTH_DAY_FORMAT = 'F j' NUMBER_GROUPING = 0 PASSWORD_HASHERS = '********************' PASSWORD_RESET_TIMEOUT = '********************' PASSWORD_RESET_TIMEOUT_DAYS = '********************' POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL = 'http://localhost/mailman3/' PREPEND_WWW = False Q_CLUSTER = {'timeout': 300, 'retry': 400, 'save_limit': 100, 'orm': 'default', 'poll': 5} ROOT_URLCONF = 'urls' SECRET_KEY = '********************' SECURE_BROWSER_XSS_FILTER = False SECURE_CONTENT_TYPE_NOSNIFF = True SECURE_HSTS_INCLUDE_SUBDOMAINS = False SECURE_HSTS_PRELOAD = False SECURE_HSTS_SECONDS = 0 SECURE_PROXY_SSL_HEADER = None SECURE_REDIRECT_EXEMPT = [] SECURE_REFERRER_POLICY = 'same-origin' SECURE_SSL_HOST = None SECURE_SSL_REDIRECT = False SERVER_EMAIL = 'root(a)bf2024.phcomp.co.uk' SESSION_CACHE_ALIAS = 'default' SESSION_COOKIE_AGE = 1209600 SESSION_COOKIE_DOMAIN = None SESSION_COOKIE_HTTPONLY = True SESSION_COOKIE_NAME = 'sessionid' SESSION_COOKIE_PATH = '/' SESSION_COOKIE_SAMESITE = 'Lax' SESSION_COOKIE_SECURE = False SESSION_ENGINE = 'django.contrib.sessions.backends.db' SESSION_EXPIRE_AT_BROWSER_CLOSE = False SESSION_FILE_PATH = None SESSION_SAVE_EVERY_REQUEST = False SESSION_SERIALIZER = 'django.contrib.sessions.serializers.PickleSerializer' SETTINGS_MODULE = 'settings' SHORT_DATETIME_FORMAT = 'm/d/Y P' SHORT_DATE_FORMAT = 'm/d/Y' SIGNING_BACKEND = 'django.core.signing.TimestampSigner' SILENCED_SYSTEM_CHECKS = [] SITE_ID = 1 SOCIALACCOUNT_PROVIDERS = {} STATICFILES_DIRS = '()' STATICFILES_FINDERS = "('django.contrib.staticfiles.finders.FileSystemFinder', 'django.contrib.staticfiles.finders.AppDirectoriesFinder', 'compressor.finders.CompressorFinder')" STATICFILES_STORAGE = 'django.contrib.staticfiles.storage.StaticFilesStorage' STATIC_ROOT = '/var/lib/mailman3/web/static' STATIC_URL = '/mailman3/static/' TEMPLATES = [{'BACKEND': 'django.template.backends.django.DjangoTemplates', 'DIRS': [], 'APP_DIRS': True, 'OPTIONS': {'context_processors': ['django.template.context_processors.debug', 'django.template.context_processors.i18n', 'django.template.context_processors.media', 'django.template.context_processors.static', 'django.template.context_processors.tz', 'django.template.context_processors.csrf', 'django.template.context_processors.request', 'django.contrib.auth.context_processors.auth', 'django.contrib.messages.context_processors.messages', 'django_mailman3.context_processors.common', 'hyperkitty.context_processors.common', 'postorius.context_processors.postorius']}}] TEST_NON_SERIALIZED_APPS = [] TEST_RUNNER = 'django.test.runner.DiscoverRunner' THOUSAND_SEPARATOR = ',' TIME_FORMAT = 'P' TIME_INPUT_FORMATS = ['%H:%M:%S', '%H:%M:%S.%f', '%H:%M'] TIME_ZONE = 'UTC' USE_I18N = True USE_L10N = True USE_THOUSAND_SEPARATOR = False USE_TZ = True USE_X_FORWARDED_HOST = True USE_X_FORWARDED_PORT = False WSGI_APPLICATION = 'wsgi.application' X_FRAME_OPTIONS = 'DENY' YEAR_MONTH_FORMAT = 'F Y' ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Contact.html #include <std_disclaimer.h>

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Block members from sending cc's and bcc's
by Cathryn McGuire Nov. 15, 2025

Nov. 15, 2025

Hi everyone, Using Mailman 3 with Affinity web interface and we want to stop our members from sending to cc: or bcc: We've found the Header Filter and cc and bcc appear in it. Tried to configure it to "hold for moderation," but it hasn't worked. Partly because we don't understand what to put in the Pattern input box. I put in cc: because it requires something. Can anyone advise? Cheers, Cathryn

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Xapian alternatives
by Andrew Bernard Nov. 11, 2025

Nov. 11, 2025

Are there alternative search engines to Xapian that can be used for Mailman 3? I have come to understand that Xapian development stalled in the v2.0 attempt.

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Cannot Install Web UI
by Dennis Putnam Nov. 2, 2025

Nov. 2, 2025

I'm trying to install the web UI for mailman3. I am getting the following failure. Can someone help? TIA. (venv) mailman :~$ pip install mailman-web mailman-hyperkitty Collecting mailman-web Downloading mailman_web-0.0.9-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (3.2 kB) Collecting mailman-hyperkitty Downloading mailman-hyperkitty-1.2.1.tar.gz (22 kB) Preparing metadata (setup.py) ... done Collecting django<4.3,>=4.0 (from mailman-web) Downloading django-4.2.25-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (4.2 kB) Collecting hyperkitty (from mailman-web) Downloading hyperkitty-1.3.12-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (3.6 kB) Collecting postorius (from mailman-web) Downloading postorius-1.3.13-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (2.9 kB) Collecting whoosh (from mailman-web) Downloading Whoosh-2.7.4-py2.py3-none-any.whl.metadata (3.1 kB) Requirement already satisfied: mailman in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman-hyperkitty) (3.3.10) Requirement already satisfied: requests in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman-hyperkitty) (2.32.5) Requirement already satisfied: zope.interface in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman-hyperkitty) (8.0.1) Requirement already satisfied: asgiref<4,>=3.6.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from django<4.3,>=4.0->mailman- web) (3.10.0) Requirement already satisfied: sqlparse>=0.3.1 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from django<4.3,>=4.0->mailman-we b) (0.5.3) Collecting django-compressor>=1.3 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_compressor-4.5.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl.metadata (5.0 kB) Collecting django-extensions>=1.3.7 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_extensions-4.1-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (6.1 kB) Collecting django-gravatar2>=1.0.6 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_gravatar2-1.4.5-py2.py3-none-any.whl.metadata (4.3 kB) Collecting django-haystack>=2.8.0 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_haystack-3.3.0.tar.gz (467 kB) ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 467.3/467.3 kB 3.8 MB/s eta 0:00:00 Installing build dependencies ... done Getting requirements to build wheel ... done Preparing metadata (pyproject.toml) ... done Collecting django-q2>=1.0.0 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_q2-1.8.0-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (9.5 kB) Collecting django_mailman3>=1.3.13 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_mailman3-1.3.15-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (5.4 kB) Collecting djangorestframework>=3.0.0 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading djangorestframework-3.16.1-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (11 kB) Requirement already satisfied: flufl.lock>=4.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) (8. 2.0) Collecting mailmanclient>=3.3.3 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading mailmanclient-3.3.5.tar.gz (89 kB) ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 89.6/89.6 kB 1.2 MB/s eta 0:00:00 Preparing metadata (setup.py) ... done Collecting mistune>=3.0 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading mistune-3.1.4-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (1.8 kB) Collecting networkx>=2.0 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading networkx-3.5-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (6.3 kB) Requirement already satisfied: python-dateutil>=2.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from hyperkitty->mailman-web ) (2.9.0.post0) Collecting robot-detection>=0.3 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading robot-detection-0.4.tar.gz (6.4 kB) Preparing metadata (setup.py) ... done Requirement already satisfied: aiosmtpd>=1.4.3 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (1.4.6) Requirement already satisfied: alembic!=1.7.0,>=1.6.2 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hype rkitty) (1.17.0) Requirement already satisfied: atpublic in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (6.0.2 ) Requirement already satisfied: authheaders>=0.16 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitt y) (0.16.3) Requirement already satisfied: authres>=1.0.1 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (1.2.0) Requirement already satisfied: click>=8.0.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (8 .3.0) Requirement already satisfied: dnspython>=1.14.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitt y) (2.8.0) Requirement already satisfied: falcon>=3.1.3 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) ( 4.1.0) Requirement already satisfied: flufl.bounce>=4.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitt y) (4.0) Requirement already satisfied: flufl.i18n>=3.2 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (5.2.0) Requirement already satisfied: gunicorn in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (23.0. 0) Requirement already satisfied: lazr.config in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (3. 1) Requirement already satisfied: passlib in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (1.7.4) Requirement already satisfied: sqlalchemy>=1.4.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitt y) (2.0.44) Requirement already satisfied: zope.component in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (7.0) Requirement already satisfied: zope.configuration in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkit ty) (7.0) Requirement already satisfied: zope.event in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (6.0 ) Collecting readme_renderer[md] (from postorius->mailman-web) Downloading readme_renderer-44.0-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (2.8 kB) Requirement already satisfied: charset_normalizer<4,>=2 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from requests->mailman-h yperkitty) (3.4.4) Requirement already satisfied: idna<4,>=2.5 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from requests->mailman-hyperkitty) ( 3.11) Requirement already satisfied: urllib3<3,>=1.21.1 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from requests->mailman-hyperki tty) (2.5.0) Requirement already satisfied: certifi>=2017.4.17 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from requests->mailman-hyperki tty) (2025.10.5) Requirement already satisfied: attrs in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from aiosmtpd>=1.4.3->mailman->mailman-hype rkitty) (25.4.0) Requirement already satisfied: Mako in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from alembic!=1.7.0,>=1.6.2->mailman->mailma n-hyperkitty) (1.3.10) Requirement already satisfied: typing-extensions>=4.12 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from alembic!=1.7.0,>=1.6 .2->mailman->mailman-hyperkitty) (4.15.0) Requirement already satisfied: dkimpy>=0.7.1 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from authheaders>=0.16->mailman->ma ilman-hyperkitty) (1.1.8) Requirement already satisfied: publicsuffix2 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from authheaders>=0.16->mailman->ma ilman-hyperkitty) (2.20191221) Collecting django-appconf>=1.0.3 (from django-compressor>=1.3->hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_appconf-1.1.0-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (5.2 kB) Collecting rcssmin==1.1.2 (from django-compressor>=1.3->hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading rcssmin-1.1.2-cp312-cp312-manylinux1_x86_64.whl.metadata (4.5 kB) Collecting rjsmin==1.2.2 (from django-compressor>=1.3->hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading rjsmin-1.2.2-cp312-cp312-manylinux1_x86_64.whl.metadata (4.4 kB) Requirement already satisfied: packaging in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from django-haystack>=2.8.0->hyperkitty ->mailman-web) (25.0) Collecting django-allauth>=0.63 (from django-allauth[openid,socialaccount]>=0.63->django_mailman3>=1.3.13->hyperkitty->m ailman-web) Downloading django_allauth-65.12.1.tar.gz (2.0 MB) ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 2.0/2.0 MB 7.1 MB/s eta 0:00:00 Installing build dependencies ... done Getting requirements to build wheel ... done Preparing metadata (pyproject.toml) ... done Collecting django-picklefield<4.0,>=3.1 (from django-q2>=1.0.0->hyperkitty->mailman-web) Downloading django_picklefield-3.3-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (12 kB) Requirement already satisfied: psutil in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from flufl.lock>=4.0->hyperkitty->mailman- web) (7.1.0) Requirement already satisfied: six>=1.5 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from python-dateutil>=2.0->hyperkitty->m ailman-web) (1.17.0) Requirement already satisfied: greenlet>=1 in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from sqlalchemy>=1.4.0->mailman->mail man-hyperkitty) (3.2.4) Requirement already satisfied: setuptools in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from lazr.config->mailman->mailman-hyp erkitty) (80.9.0) Requirement already satisfied: lazr.delegates in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from lazr.config->mailman->mailman -hyperkitty) (2.1.1) Collecting nh3>=0.2.14 (from readme_renderer[md]->postorius->mailman-web) Downloading nh3-0.3.1-cp38-abi3-manylinux_2_17_x86_64.manylinux2014_x86_64.whl.metadata (466 bytes) Collecting docutils>=0.21.2 (from readme_renderer[md]->postorius->mailman-web) Downloading docutils-0.22.2-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (15 kB) Collecting Pygments>=2.5.1 (from readme_renderer[md]->postorius->mailman-web) Downloading pygments-2.19.2-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (2.5 kB) Collecting cmarkgfm>=0.8.0 (from readme_renderer[md]->postorius->mailman-web) Downloading cmarkgfm-2025.10.20.tar.gz (145 kB) ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 145.8/145.8 kB 2.2 MB/s eta 0:00:00 Installing build dependencies ... done Getting requirements to build wheel ... error error: subprocess-exited-with-error × Getting requirements to build wheel did not run successfully. │ exit code: 1 ╰─> [41 lines of output] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pip/_vendor/pyproject_hooks/_in_process/_in_process.py", li ne 353, in <module> main() File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pip/_vendor/pyproject_hooks/_in_process/_in_process.py", li ne 335, in main json_out['return_val'] = hook(**hook_input['kwargs']) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pip/_vendor/pyproject_hooks/_in_process/_in_process.py", li ne 118, in get_requires_for_build_wheel return hook(config_settings) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/build_meta.py", line 331, in g et_requires_for_build_wheel return self._get_build_requires(config_settings, requirements=[]) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/build_meta.py", line 301, in _ get_build_requires self.run_setup() File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/build_meta.py", line 317, in r un_setup exec(code, locals()) File "<string>", line 5, in <module> File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/__init__.py", line 115, in set up return distutils.core.setup(**attrs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/_distutils/core.py", line 148, in setup _setup_distribution = dist = klass(attrs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/dist.py", line 321, in __init_ _ _Distribution.__init__(self, dist_attrs) File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/_distutils/dist.py", line 309, in __init__ self.finalize_options() File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/dist.py", line 784, in finaliz e_options ep(self) File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/setuptools/dist.py", line 804, in _finali ze_setup_keywords ep.load()(self, ep.name, value) File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cffi/setuptools_ext.py", line 229, in cff i_modules add_cffi_module(dist, cffi_module) File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cffi/setuptools_ext.py", line 50, in add_ cffi_module execfile(build_file_name, mod_vars) File "/tmp/pip-build-env-uf_5f2aq/overlay/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cffi/setuptools_ext.py", line 26, in exec file exec(code, glob, glob) File "src/cmarkgfm/build_cmark.py", line 21, in <module> with open(CMARK_DEF_H_PATH, encoding='utf-8') as fh: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pip-install-y364_cvm/cmarkgfm_9fcba25730114ac4a08d1e 7733112a45/src/cmarkgfm/cmark.cffi.h' [end of output] note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a problem with pip. error: subprocess-exited-with-error × Getting requirements to build wheel did not run successfully. │ exit code: 1 ╰─> See above for output. note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a problem with pip.

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"Something went wrong | Mailman REST API not available. Please restart Mailman core.
by Hirayama, Pat Oct. 31, 2025

Oct. 31, 2025

Greetings, Some of my lists have started displaying this behavior — when you try to access the list page(s), you get a page with this message: Something went wrong Mailman REST API not available. Please restart Mailman core. My mailman-core docker container is running, as are mailman-django-uwsgi, mailman-nginx and mailman-postfix. Restarting the containers doesn't change this behavior. Google suggests restarting mailman core. Or that we might not be using the correct account name, password or port. The weird thing is that it is not all lists. Most of them seem to be fine. Which suggests to me that the issue is with a few lists, but not systemwide, so I think my settings in mailman.cfg, settings.py, settings_local.py are likely correct. For the problem lists, I see this in the log: ERROR 2025-10-29 18:38:56,784 7 postorius Mailman REST API not available ERROR 2025-10-29 18:38:56,790 7 django.request Service Unavailable: /postorius/lists/obfuscated.name.lists.fhcrc.org/ ERROR 2025-10-29 18:38:56,790 7 django.request Service Unavailable: /postorius/lists/obfuscated.name.lists.fhcrc.org/ So, Postorius can't communicate with the API, I guess? I look at settings_local.py: MAILMAN_REST_API_URL = 'http://mailman-core:8001' I believe 8001 is the default, and since I haven't specified one in the [webservice] section of mailman.cfg, I'm assuming 8001 is correct (plus, it works for other lists). There are a few messages waiting for moderator approval — otherwise, I'd probably try just deleting the list and recreating it. Anyone have any suggestions on what else I should look at? Thanks! -p Pat Hirayama Pronouns: he/him/his Systems Engineer IT | Systems Engineering - Infrastructure Fred Hutch Cancer Center O 206.667.4856 phirayam(a)fredhutch.org<mailto:phirayam@fredhutch.org>

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