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[MM3-users] Re: Show list history

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/14/24 02:49, pau.baiges(a)csuc.cat wrote: > Hi, is there a way to know the history of a specific list, such as the changes that have been made over time? > We want to see the history of members who have been added or removed. I can only see the mailman logs from the last 5-6 days Historical information about (un)subscribes is not kept anywhere. Currently, even if you keep logs for a long time, the information is incomplete. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1143 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM2 to MM3 Archives Loading

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/22/24 15:42, Joshua Bushe wrote: > > Yes, that is exactly what I'm referring to. > in my previous post i said "I also created a test list and started a new thread through the GUI, but I got the same outcome." What is your Django setting for Q_CLUSTER and is qcluster running? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Unexpexted error: if you are sure you want to run as root, specify --run-as-root"

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/25/24 5:50 AM, w.schoener(a)alp.dillingen.de wrote: > I tried: > mailman shell -l --run-as-root my.list.id That should be `mailman --run-as-root shell -l my.list.id` but as Odhiambo says you should never run `mailman` commands as `root` unless you really know what you are doing which is why the --run-as-root option is required. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: New domain cannot set set host

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/27/24 12:18 PM, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > But it is not in table mailman3web.django_site > > Please how do I do this ? Add the domain as a site in the Django web admin UI. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Notifying owners of membership changes but not moderators

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/26/24 9:30 PM, Perry Kollmorgen wrote: > > For the code for moderators it currently only adds them: > > mailing_list.add_moderator(moderator.email, display_name=moderator.display_name) > > Would I need to add something similar which sets a delivery_status for the moderator added ? I think something like this ``` mailing_list.add_moderator(moderator.email, display_name=moderator.display_name) moderator = mailing_list._get_membership(moderator.email, 'moderator') prefs = moderator.preferences prefs['delivery_status'] = 'by_moderator' prefs.save() ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Aborted connection message in log in every 5 minutes

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/2/24 11:08 PM, erik(a)dante.de wrote: > > Do you know if this warning still happens in a version ≥2.0 of python3-sqlalchemy? This may be https://github.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy/issues/10893 which appears to be fixed in 2.0. > Do you know a workaround to generate less noise in the log files without disabling all MariaDB warning messages? We really use the NNTP gateway, turning that off is not an option. No, but I know nothing about MariaDB. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to Increase outgoing mail volume for Mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/9/24 10:43, Nelson Strother via Mailman-users wrote: > That is one of about five hundred lines that can be revealed by invoking: > > mailman@localhost:~$ mailman conf You can also find most of the defaults together with documentation at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/config/schema.… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Clean-up of non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/22/24 05:25, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > Perhaps you can make a feature request in gitlab? > And while at it, please add: mailman nonmembers LISTSPEC > With the later, it would be easier to delete non-members from the CLI as > well. Isn't this just `mailman members --role nonmember LISTSPEC`? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM2 to MM3 Archives Loading

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/11/24 17:22, Mailman Noob wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for the continuous replies! Yes, i am running django cron tasks. I can confirm that the daily jobs are being ran but still not fixing my issue. Restarting WSGI server also didn't fix the issue. Nothing in my logs. Have you tried running `django-admin clear_cache`? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: MTA setup

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/23/24 09:03, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > Update: After changing the DMARC settings messages are now going through to > my inbox, however they are still not being archived. Yes, that's always been a separate issue. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Suggestion on Mailing Lists page

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/24/24 04:36, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > It would be really useful if there was an indication next to each list if that > list required attention, eg an email awaiting moderation. This will be in Postorius 1.3.14. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html#news-1-3-14 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: MTA setup

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/24/24 09:33, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > Is the mailman lmtp runner a cron job? No. It is the process that receives incoming Mailman mail from the MTA. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Clean-up of non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/24/24 23:35, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now only if you can help me reconcile the fact that Postorius tells me that > I have > ``` > List Nonmembers (872) > > ``` > > ..while the CLI command gives me only 13 addresses. How are you invoking the `mailman nonmembers` command? I suspect it is not using the proper mailman.cfg. Does `mailman info` show the correct mailman.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Clean-up of non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On December 25, 2024 2:01:27 PM PST, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > members --role nonmember LISTSPEC | wc -l > 13 What do you get if you do ``` mailman shell -l LISTSPEC ... >>> len(list(m.nonmembers.members)) ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Feature request, hyperkitty, low volume lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/9/25 06:07, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > For an example see: > > https://fridayfolk.phcomp.co.uk/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announce@fridayfol… The above URL and also https://fridayfolk.phcomp.co.uk/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announce@fridayfol… and even https://fridayfolk.phcomp.co.uk/mailman3/hyperkitty/ all give a 500 internal server error response. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: m3 database sizing

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/22/25 6:22 AM, Alexander Inzinger-Zrock via Mailman-users wrote: > B) > has some empirical values and would like to share? mail.python.org has 195 lists with 53394 members. Its PostgerSQL database is currently 18 gigabytes. This includes HyperKitty archives, some of which are quite large. The hyperkitty_email table together with the hyperkitty_attachment table contain the contents of every message in the archive. lists.mailman3.org has only one significant list with 658 members and currently archives 2267 messages not counting this one. Its PostgerSQL database is currently 193 megabytes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3-web postorious error "invalid request block size: 14056 (max 4096)...skip"

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/28/25 09:15, Frederik via Mailman-users wrote: > > Any idea what could be wrong or how to debug this further? > > I'm using mailman3-full 3.3.8-2~deb12u2 and mailman3-web 0+20240312-1 packages. I have no ideas, but please see https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344 and report this to Debian. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Adding Mass Subscribe custom template error

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/29/25 09:41, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > Where can I find the setting > ``` > POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL > ``` It is in your Django settings. Where these are depends on your installation, but these are usually in files named settings.py and settings_local.py. If you installed following https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html the default is in mailman_web/settings/mailman.py but you would override the default in /etc/mailman3/settings.py -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Adding Mass Subscribe custom template error

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/29/25 11:58, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > > Bonus question: how should I calculate how many workers I should have on my > system? On lists.mailman3.org (server for this list) we use 4. on mail.python.org (server for about 200 lists) we use 6. Those numbers are pretty arbitrary. See https://docs.gunicorn.org/en/latest/design.html#how-many-workers for their recommendation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Occasionally "The content of this message was lost."

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/29/25 23:47, Frank Richter wrote: > Hello, > > occasionally we face the problem "The content of this message was lost." > when handling a message on hold. This is probably https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1162 [1] fixed by https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/1212/diffs to be release in Mailman core 3.3.10. [1] In particular, see https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1162#note_2113461048 for a fix for earlier releases. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: One-click unsubscribe?

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/4/25 20:24, Jered Floyd wrote: > > I'm having a lot of problems with GMail delivery due to lack of "one-click unsubscribe" -- however that is quantified, which is not clear. One other thing. Gmail in its, to paraphrase Steve, "enshittifiedness" while publishing a DMARC policy of none, treats mail From: gmail.com as though the DMARC policy is reject. This means you need to add `^.*(a)gmail\.com$` to your list's setting for DMARC Addresses (requires Postorius >= 1.3.9). -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Pck files stuck in out queue

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/6/25 17:07, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Lieuallen, Thomas Otis via Mailman-users writes: > > > I was getting the ‘Cannot connect to SMTP server’ message in > > mailman.log. > > I believe this is unrelated, but you should look into that. It is definitely related. That (very uninformative) message is logged once only after the out runner is started the first time calls the decorate handler and the handler can't access a template. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Heads up: settings.ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD is deprecated

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/7/25 03:19, Andreas Vetter wrote: > > Changing ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD to ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS in > /etc/mailman3/settings.py is not enough. One has to edit > venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailman_web/settings/mailman.py You can do this in /etc/mailman3/settings.py only without editing venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailman_web/settings/mailman.py by adding ``` del ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'email', 'username'} ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: REST API: potential bug

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/14/25 23:30, Peter Knowles via Mailman-users wrote: > > Basically providing the "mail_host" param, but leaving it empty causes the command to return successful, therefore creating an "empty" domain entry. > > Ideally the REST API should check to see if the param is empty, or for that matter "valid" before accepting it. > > Another test just run with "-d mail_host=test(a)test.com" also returned successful, therefore allowing an "invalid" domain. Thanks for reporting. I have filed https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1202 for this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: How To Install Mailman 3 on Debian 10 (Complete Guide)

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/24/25 20:38, Chandrakant Pandey via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, > Whether this instructions will work for Ubuntu 22.04/24.04 LTS version OS ? Probably, but we recommend https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Bug Report - REST API

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/3/25 10:13 PM, Peter Knowles via Mailman-users wrote: > OS: Debian 12 > Mailman Core: 3.3.10 > Install Method: venv > > When I apply the "count" and/or "page" param on: > > /3.1/lists/name.sub.domain.tld/requests > > This resulted in a "404 Not Found" error from the REST API. Bugs should be reported on the appropriate project's issue tracker on GitLab, https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/ in the case of Mailman core. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: How to process emails with Mailman3?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/11/25 4:30 AM, Kyle Lahnakoski wrote: > > I guess I will be parsing the message to find that recipient. Since you are doing this in a Python script anyway, just use Python's email library to parse the message and Python's smtplib to send the message to Mailman's LMTP runner. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: CSS Hyperkitty ERROR

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/17/25 6:46 PM, Johan Alsina via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, i installed mailman3 with virtualenv, all is working fine, the admin site works fine, the mailman(postorious) site works fine, but when im in hyperkitty the site shows without the css style.. in my web browser dev tool it shows like they loaded ok.. Have you run `mailman-web collectstatic` and `mailman-web compress`? See https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#collect-static-… If you have, try running them again as `mailman-web collectstatic --clear` and `mailman-web compress`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: settings.ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED is deprecated in allauth-65.5.0

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/17/25 6:11 PM, Andreas Vetter wrote: > > What would be the correct setting for the new > ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-web/-/blob/master/mailman_web/settings/m… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: CSS Hyperkitty ERROR

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/18/25 3:39 PM, Johan Alsina via Mailman-users wrote: > > Like i said before, i think the problem comes with the css files in /static/CACHE.. because the ones that are in /static/hyperkitty are loading ok.. See this thread: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… Some of that may be useful. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: How to change the showed URL/Domain of archives navbar?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/18/25 8:04 PM, Ulf R. wrote: > How can we set the other domain there? > I have tried to change the order of our two domains in the settings.py - without success. Our domains are: > lists-test.mydomain.de has SITE_ID = 1 > lists.mydomain.de has SITE_ID = 2 Set `SITE_ID = 2` in your settings.py. After making that change, you neet to restart whatever process (gunicorn, uwsgi, ?) that provides your WSGI interface. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Unsubscribe from a list

by Mark Sapiro

On March 24, 2025 3:38:10 PM GMT+07:00, pau.baiges(a)csuc.cat wrote: >Hello, >When a list member sends an email to list-leave@... to unsubscribe from a list, neither the moderators nor the list owners receive it. Only the person who sent the email receives a confirmation email. If you want admins to be notified of unsubscribes set Notify admin of membership changes to Yes. If you want admins to need to approve unsubscribes, see Odhiambo's reply. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

11 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Mark Sapiro

On March 25, 2025 2:57:25 AM GMT+07:00, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > >Is there a way to change those moderator e-mails to send right away? Does having user(a)example.com in the config affect that? In each list's settings under Automatic responses, set Admin immed notify to Yes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

11 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Disabling the version disclosure.

by Mark Sapiro

On March 25, 2025 5:18:13 PM GMT+07:00, ninad--- via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > >Please let me know if there are any settings that I can set. I don't want to change any html code for the same. There are no settings for this. To remove the version from Postorius footers you would need to edit postorius/templates/postorius/base.html and for Hyperkitty, hyperkitty/templates/hyperkitty/base.html For Mailman core, where are you seeing the version exposed? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

11 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/26/25 5:30 AM, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > > Who should the moderator e-mail come from when the moderator has to approve something? I have been searching the logs and cannot find that an e-mail for that exists. It is From: the listname-owner address and sent to the listname-owner address which then resends it to the actual owner and moderator addresses. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Unsubscribe from a list

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/25/25 7:41 PM, pau.baiges(a)csuc.cat wrote: > I can only see the subscription policy Then you must have Postorius < 1.3.3 which was released almost 5 years ago. The latest release is 1.3.13. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html - You should consider upgrading. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Mark Sapiro

On March 27, 2025 2:20:56 AM GMT+07:00, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: >Mark, can you clarify the part about (Postorius Admin immed notify is Yes)? Is that a separate setting than admin_immed_notify is True? If so , how do I check that setting. They are the same. The setting is admin_immed_notify which is a True/False setting. This setting is exposed in Postorius as a Yes/No setting called Admin immediately notify. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

11 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Debian 12: Following docs does not create /opt/mailman/web/xapian_index

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/1/25 10:04 AM, Philip Bondi wrote: > > When I try to search, I get this stack trace by email: > > > Exception Type: PermissionError at /archives/search > Exception Value: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/opt/mailman/web/xapian_index' > Raised during: hyperkitty.views.search.search > Request information: > USER: pjbondi Why is this not running as the Mailman user? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Change delivery_status in bulk

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/3/25 19:36, Hitashi mancho via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now, I am unable to locate any command or an API call through which I can > change the delivery_status back to enabled for 1000+ users. > > Can you please guide me on how I can do this programmatically using cli (I > will write a bash script) or using an API call? See the post at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… for a mailman shell interaction to do this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Can't post to my own list from HyperKitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/6/25 17:30, MegaBrutal via Mailman-users wrote: >> > No, it doesn't say anything like that. It says if I'm not subscribed, > sending the message would subscribe me – no address is shown there at all. Compare your hyperkitty/templates/hyperkitty/fragments/send_as.html to https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/blob/master/hyperkitty/templates/hy… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Debian 12: Following docs does not create /opt/mailman/web/xapian_index

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/7/25 12:03, Philip Bondi wrote: > I'm logged into web interface as pjbondi when I try xapian search, and an email with this information is sent. What are the ownerships and permissions on /opt/mailman/web/xapian_index? they should be something like drwxrwxr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 7 12:00 xapian_index/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Info mails to list owners have "user@example.com" as from address (bounce score incremented)

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/25/25 02:50, Ulf R. wrote: > Hello, > mails to list owners with subjects like > <Mailaddress>'s bounce score incremented on <MyListName> > comes from "user(a)example.com". > Where is the right place to change this? We never defined this mail address anywhere. > Thank you very much! The setting you are looking for is `site_owner` in the `mailman` section of mailman.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: configuring postfix local recipient table

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/2/25 01:44, Alexander Inzinger-Zrock via Mailman-users wrote: > > we changed that during prior conversation [1] to make postmap command > available to user 'mailman' > > > from > configuration: python:mailman.config.postfix > > to > configuration: /etc/mailman3/postfix.cfg > > and contents are > > " > postmap_command: /usr/sbin/postmap > postmap_command: /usr/sbin/postmap > > " This needs more than that. it needs a [postfix] section header and a definition for transport_file_type. E.g. ``` [postfix] transport_file_type: hash postmap_command: /usr/sbin/postmap ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Exception when rendering certain emails ([Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error...)

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/5/25 06:18, Matt Blissett via Mailman-users wrote: > > Downgrading mistune as suggested has fixed the problem, thanks! > > I've made a pull request for the Docker image: https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman/pull/754 As I noted in the PR, the issue is https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/529 which is fixed for the next HyperKitty release. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty archive: date format in thread overview of list does not honor DATETIME_FORMAT of settings.py

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/26/25 3:54 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: > Maybe this page (https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/config-web.html) can be modified to point to a more recent version of the django docs? I'll fix that. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Masking email addresses in the archives

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/26/25 9:47 AM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > I must have missed this if it was ever discussed, but is it possible to > mask the list members' email addresses in the archives? See https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/508 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Unable to update templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/27/25 23:09, Mark wrote: > > Where does Mailman core search for the file if the table entry is deleted? The search order is described in the docstring at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/utilities/i18n… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Threads by month dropdown

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/5/25 12:33, Sam Darwin via Mailman-users wrote: > > I believe it is not yet. Will make a note to investigate that. However, I think logging to /var/log/ is better than email, for system processes. Arguably it's not a system process, but rather a user cron. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: What is the best practice creating lists triggered by a another / second system?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/6/25 06:00, Christian Schneider wrote: > > On our old mailman-2.1 instance I used an ssh-tunnel and triggered the newlist-command with appropriate parameters. > This seems a little bit outdated to me - nowadays... ;-) Mahai has given a good response at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… but I don't think there is anything wrong with using an ssh-tunnel to execute a `mailman create` command. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: invite template customization

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/7/25 06:20, Christian via Mailman-users wrote: > Can someone please send me code for the invite template to bring in a brief > description of a mailing list to be subscribed to? Thank you in advance! The substitution you want is $description. How you want to use that in the template is up to you. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: mail loops back to myself

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/9/25 16:00, Florian Sukup wrote: > > I don't want to receive any emails like ...(a)host.xxx.com . So I thought > removing host.xxx.com from $mydestination is a good idea. Is there any > other solution for that? Actually, you probably don't need host.xxx.com in mydestination if you don't want to accept mail for that domain. Also you shouldn't need lists.yyy.com either as transport_maps handles that. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Stalwart plugin

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/10/25 07:24, Jörg Schulz via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi all, > I'm just reviewing Stalwart as a many-in-one mailing system. Did anybody yet succeed in plugging mailman into stalwart (the incoming bit seems to be difficult)? See https://github.com/ewdurbin/stalwart-mailman -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: mail loops back to myself

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/12/25 15:05, Florian Sukup wrote: > > I always restart mailman3 after changing main.cf I asked if you restarted/reloaded Postfix. I would assume that you had, but I'm at a loss to understand the issue, unless your /etc/postfix/master.cf is missing an uncommented entry for lmtp like ``` lmtp unix - - y - - lmtp ``` > if there is any interest, postfix_domains contains this line: > > lists.yyy.com lists.yyy.com That's as it should be. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Django-allauth compatibility (ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD and ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED)

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/16/25 15:26, Eggert Ehmke via Mailman-users wrote: > I have django-allauth 65.9.0 and still the same problem. mailman-web runjobs minutely throws it each minute, which is annoying. Do you have ``` ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'email', 'username'} ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS = ['email*', 'username*', 'password1*', 'password2*'] ``` in your django settings? What releases of HyperKitty, Postorius and Django-Mailman3 are you running? Current releases do not have any minutely jobs. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Block members from sending cc's and bcc's

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/23/25 13:07, Cathryn McGuire wrote: > cc.* (no space between cc and .*?). No. cc goes in the header box and only .* goes in the pattern box. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: redirecting -bounces replies

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/26/25 13:31, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > > Ah, I think that makes sense. So, add the alias domains here or through the CLI: Either way is good. > Oh, does the alias domain x.lists.hanc.info (etc) need to be resolvable in DNS, or will it be internal just to Mailman? No, it does not need to be resolvable in DNS. It is just internal to Postfix. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: redirecting -bounces replies

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/26/25 15:29, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > Well ... each list has 9 email addresses — the list address, the -bounces, the -confirm, the -join, the -leave, the -owner, the -request, the -subscribe and the -unsubscribe ... I think I'm around 4500 listservs right now..... 4500 lists is a lot, but not unheard of, but please don't call them listservs. See https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Caching problem with templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/28/25 20:22, Mark wrote: > > 3. What did work was removing the records in the file_cache table PLUS > removing the corresponding files in var/cache/*/*/* -- for example: > /opt/mailman/mm/var/cache/3a/2f/* > > This I was able to script in bash and cron to run every minute. A much simpler way to accomplish the same thing is to set cache_life: 1m in the [mailman] section of mailman.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Customize subjects

by Mark Sapiro

On July 14, 2025 10:55:56 AM EDT, "johannes.wolf--- via Mailman-users" <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >This text needs to be customized as we only have older users which need it in their native language (German). ;) If you set the list's preferred language to German, the subject should be translated. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

8 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman appears to send an email to a closed list, from a member who was removed from that list

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/18/25 11:07 AM, Andy Matthews wrote: > * I sent another mail FROM user-1 TO acme-closed, and received two emails. One showed what appears to be a successful send to the mailing list. What was the content of this message including all headers? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Relay Access Denied

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/22/25 11:11 AM, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > Mark, we would really like to use both lists.luc.edu and listservnew.luc.edu. Is that possible? I think you can do this and have it completely automated by following the setup at https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… and setting the alias domain of the listservnew.luc.edu to lists.luc.edu. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty error - not archiving

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/26/25 10:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > I had examined the message using 'mailman qfile', but did not see anything > obvious. > There were 3 files inside the spool/ directory. > I have just checked again and they are no longer there. If the files `disappeared`, they were eventually successfully delivered to HyperKitty. If you made no changes to mailman-hyperkitty.cfg, there was probably some transient network issue that caused the initial error. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: server/accounts/confirm-email/ lacks skinning (css)

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/25 18:06, Wikinaut wrote: > The newly installed mailman3 systems works, however the page accounts/confirm-email/ lacks the css. > > Can someone confirm my observation? Is there a fix? This is https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/86 fixed by https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/merge_requests/298 to be released with django-mailman3 1.3.16. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Held messages not delivered after approval

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/31/25 00:18, Stephan Krinetzki wrote: > > mailman members --regular --nomail enabled LISTSPEC > > Shows a lot of addresses - so all the members of the list don't recieve an mail, which explains the vanished mail. Next step: Enable the the mailing for them. `--nomail enabled` lists members with delivery enabled, not those with delivery disabled. See `mailman members --help` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Held messages not delivered after approval

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/1/25 01:22, Stephan Krinetzki wrote: > > Now to the files: > > mailman qfile /opt/mailman/var/queue/virgin/1736550035.6163204+472f81ece5e45a2651a4499bef418f611b43c619.pck.tmp ... > mailman qfile /opt/mailman/var/queue/shunt/1753912822.2651796+28eceef7e18eb70393377b88dc7117af8f9362a0.pck ... > mailman qfile /opt/mailman/var/queue/shunt/1753955094.900898+67bc76525412da66a7c76363f65f583989716305.pck What about -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 221708 Jul 30 13:16 1753874180.0845337+0cc7849043859a79dc3678a0d8b63c1c66df0c66.pck.tmp and -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 733425 Jul 31 00:00 1753912841.8847518+da55f8789ae41b75d19a02b595e3fd6d45983ade.pck.tmp from the out queue? And is the out queue being processed, i.e. messages in .pck files being delivered and the files being removed. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Migration of archives mailman2 to mailman3: python: can't open file '/opt/mailman/manage.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/10/25 12:40 PM, Wikinaut wrote: > Thank you very much. > > Shall I (or you?) fix that in the documentation, at least as third footnote? See the note in the first section at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: How can i suppress sending moderation mail to all owners?

by Mark Sapiro

On August 11, 2025 9:48:00 AM GMT, "Markus Grandpré" <markus.grandpre(a)uni-konstanz.de> wrote: > >How can I configure the list settings the way that emails intended for moderators are delivered only to them, and not to the owners/administrators of the list? You can't. You could modify code to do this either unconditionally or per list, but there is currently no configuration to do this. L -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

7 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Website 404 error

by Mark Sapiro

On August 11, 2025 1:06:18 PM GMT, peter(a)pi4cc.nl wrote: > >There's something strange, and I can't find a source/solution. >When I first access the website domain.nl/mailman3, it's redirected to domain.nl/mailman/postorius/lists/, resulting in a 404 error (3 after mailman is missing). >When I accessed it a second time with the same link (domain.nl/mailman3), I was redirected to domain.nl/mailman3/postorius/lists and the welcome page appeared. See the post at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> or perhaps the entire thread. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

7 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Column 'starting_email_id' cannot be null

by Mark Sapiro

On August 18, 2025 9:35:13 AM GMT, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > >It looks like you did not run some migrations. >However, because this is packaged Mailman3, I am not sure I know how to do >that. Django-admin migrate Where Django-admin is whatever the name of the Django admin command is. However, the primary support resource for the Debian/Ubuntu package is Debian. See <https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

7 months

[MM3-users] Re: cron error - /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web runjobs daily

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/19/25 2:21 PM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now I need to find a way for me to subscribe my email address as an > ordinary user for starters. This is refusing. What are you doing to subscribe? What is the reason given for refusal? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months

[MM3-users] Re: [Bug] Someone not a member of list is treated as member - strange

by Mark Sapiro

On August 23, 2025 7:47:38 AM PDT, Wikinaut <mail(a)tgries.de> wrote: >Unfortunately not! In that case, I suspect the issue is that address1 and address2 are both associated with the same user. Go to <https://your.domain/mailman3/users> and search for address1 and manage that user to see all the associated addresses. If address1 and address2 are the same user, this behavior is expected. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

6 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Dependency nntplib not found

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/5/25 08:42, qno-mailman--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > I googled and found that module nntplib is no more part of python since python-3.13. How can i fullfill (or avoid?) this dependency? Mailman does not support Python 3.13 until Mailman 3.3.11 (not yet released). I'm not sure if there are other issues with Mailman 3.3.10 and Python 3.13 (I think not), but you can fix the missing nntplib dependency by doing ``` pip install standard-nntplib ``` in your venv. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Text/Markdown/HTML

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/9/25 13:39, Sam Darwin via Mailman-users wrote: > > Imagine the user experience when reading/writing a github issue and/or getting an email about it. There is some formatting, even if limited, such as code blocks. Users appreciate that in technical code discussions, and so it's a benefit. They may think "Why can't I use italics?" Allow basic formatting. Remove colors, font sizing, for example. Both GitHub and GitLab use Markdown formatting. So does HyperKitty if you enable it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Problems with SPOOFED_UNAUTH

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/11/25 10:03, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I don't think Mark was suggesting that would help with the > SPOOFED_UNAUTH problem. I read his mail as saying that it needs to be > fixed because it breaks anonymous_list. Exactly. Issue is now reported at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1241 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/22/25 20:45, Nirmal J via Mailman-users wrote: > Sir, > The status is enable only. But still It is not coming mail to archives. Hereby I am attaching the screen shots of the status. Kindly help me in this regard. There are many possibilities for what the problem might be. The starting point is Mailman's mailman.log. What are the messages in this log for the time of posts to the list. Also, the versions of Mailman core, HyperKitty and mailman-hyperkitty might be relevant. What are they? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/25/25 22:29, Nirmal J wrote: > I have ensured that the IP Address of list1.iitm.ac.in is in the Mailman_Archiver_From List in settings. But still not working. Please help. You may also need variuos localhost IPs such as '127.0.0.1', '::1', '::ffff:127.0.0.1' What archiving failures do you now see in mailman.log? Do not post the entire log, just the relevant message(s). -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/26/25 02:58, Nirmal J via Mailman-users wrote: > > # SECURITY WARNING: keep the secret key used in production secret! > SECRET_KEY = redacted > MAILMAN_REST_API_PASS = redacted > MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY = redacted Now that you have publicly exposed the above secrets, you should change them and also change the api_key: setting in mailman-hyperkitty.cfg to match the value in MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: CSV Export in Postorius only export email addresses but no names

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/28/25 14:45, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, > > I want to export the addresses of a mailing list in Postorius. At the > List Members section I found 'CSV Export'. However it only exports the > email addresses without the names. Is there a trick to make this happen? This is https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/625 fixed for the next release by https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/merge_requests/993 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/28/25 21:47, Nirmal J via Mailman-users wrote: > mailman.log :- > ... > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 594, in increment > raise MaxRetryError(_pool, url, error or ResponseError(cause)) > urllib3.exceptions.MaxRetryError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='list1.iitm.ac.in', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive (Caused by SSLError(SSLCertVerificationError(1, '[SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed: unable to get local issuer certificate (_ssl.c:992)'))) Can you successfully go to https://list1.iitm.ac.in/hyperkitty/api/ in a web browser or with wget or curl? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Auto discard after max_days_to_hold not working.

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/30/25 00:59, Hitashi mancho via Mailman-users wrote: > > As you have mentioned about implementation of "Auto discard after > max_days_to_hold" in a next release. How do I install that release? To install from the head of the GitLab branch pip install git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman.git -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/9/25 9:04 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > There's https://wiki.list.org/DOC/ > I%20installed%20Mailman%20from%20a%20package%20or%20I%20followed%20a%20HowTo%20document.%20Where%20do%20I%20go%20for%20help%3F but there might be a shortened link for that I'm unaware of. On any of the pages at https://wiki.list.org/ there is a TinyURL link in the left column which when clicked will add a message with a short link to the top of the page. In this case, that short link is https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/10/25 10:29 AM, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > > Postorius Version 1.3.13, > /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings.py: FILTER_VHOST = True , however, this > is set for the whole server and not for single domains/sites, right? Right. > In my case mail_host is the same as web_host so I shouldn't be touched > by that problem anyway. What do you get from the following database query SELECT * from django_mailman3_maildomain JOIN django_site ON site_id = django_site.id; -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/10/25 1:47 PM, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > > :/var/lib/mailman3/data# sqlite3 mailman.db > SQLite version 3.46.1 2024-08-13 09:16:08 > Enter ".help" for usage hints. > sqlite> SELECT * from django_mailman3_maildomain JOIN django_site ON > site_id = django_site.id; > Parse error: no such table: django_mailman3_maildomain > sqlite> Is there a second database? Something like mailmanweb.db. If so, use that one. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Unprocessed Bounce Mails from user with e-mailadresse with a "-" in it

by Mark Sapiro

On October 13, 2025 3:37:36 PM PDT, Wikinaut <mail(a)tgries.de> wrote: >I do not see how this library understands German "out of office until...." messages, perhaps Mark can say something to it. Many links in that repository are also broken. Flufl-bounce doesn't recognize any out of office messages in any language because they aren't non-delivery notices. What links in <https://gitlab.com/warsaw/flufl.bounce/> are broken? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Password reset/confirm email page formatting

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/22/25 08:09, Liam Reilly wrote: > Thanks Thomas, received. > > Interesting it looks the same as mine. > > The official page does not have this problem: https://lists.mailman3.org/accounts/password/reset/done/ Because lists.mailman3.org and mail.python.org run the GitLab heads. Several of these issues are fixed for the next release of django-mailman3. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/84 https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/85 https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/86 https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/87 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/22/25 11:35, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now I'm struggling with uwsgi.ini. the default file uses mailman for user and group but the directories were created using www-data for group and user. I got that part fixed but now when I try to start mailmanweb, I get this error: > > !!! UNABLE to load uWSGI plugin: ./python3_plugin.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory https://askubuntu.com/questions/286699/uwsgi-with-python3-how-to-get-the-pl… may help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/24/25 10:19, Dennis Putnam via Mailman-users wrote: > > Do I need to specify a path somewhere? Sort of. What is the shebang line in /opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/gunicorn? It should be #!/opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/python I.e., it should point to the Python in your venv. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/26/25 08:31, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Sadly it is correct: > > #!/opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 > > $ ls -l /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman 16 Oct 18 16:32 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 -> /usr/bin/python3 Again, what is the content of /etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/25 11:55, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now when I try to access it (http://localhost/mailman) I get a 404 error. The correct url is http://localhost/mailman3 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Archive not working - Reg.

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 03:22, nirmal--- via Mailman-users wrote: > After sending mail to a list, it is not reflecting back in Hyperkitty archive. Kindly help me in this regard. Are there files in Mailman's var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ direrctory? What's in Mailman's var/logs/mailman.log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 08:39, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Mark: That is what I used. Sorry, I missed the 3 key. What's in your web server config to proxy Mailman requests? Whats in your venv's site-packages/mailman_web/urls.py? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Disable automatic bouncing globally?

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 09:25, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > Thanks as always Mark. Do I need to restart any services after I make that change? No. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On October 28, 2025 10:33:50 AM PDT, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >It should be in sites-enabled/ or conf-enabled/. Actually sites-enabled/mailman.conf should be a symlink to sites available/mailmen.conf. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 14:41, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > That should be added to the docs. In any case adding that symlink didn't help. What's in Apache's error.log? The doc assumes you will be adding to an existing *.conf for the site. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/29/25 10:02, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I moved the parameters into 000-default.conf which already exists. That didn't help either. The only other existing file is default-ssl.conf which doesn't seem like the appropriate place to me. Nothing interesting showed up in the error log: It may not be named error.log. look at all the relevant *error.log files in /var/log/apache2. You are looking for lines matching the pattern ` not (exist:|found) `. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: "Something went wrong | Mailman REST API not available. Please restart Mailman core.

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/29/25 15:40, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > Ah, thanks for the reply, Mark. Forgot to include Traceback: > > Traceback (most recent call last): ... Thanks. These are not the normal 'core isn't running' tracebacks which are `connection refused`. These seem to say that core is dropping the connection without a response. What's in mailman.log from these times? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/30/25 10:18, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > When I set up virtual host for 443, what should I set document root to? I currently have /var/www/html. /var/www/html is OK. It only matters for requests that don't match ProxyPass directives. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/30/25 08:26, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > The only files are access.log and error.log. Access.log contains as expected: > > 2600:1700:5cac:4600:5398:3572:2b43:6b41 - - [30/Oct/2025:09:58:57 -0400] "GET /mailman3 HTTP/1.1" 40 > 4 485 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:144.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/144.0" What about /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/error.log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: "Something went wrong | Mailman REST API not available. Please restart Mailman core.

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/30/25 08:05, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > > Good question ... Looks like it is 3.3.1 — so, wow — 5 years? Guess I will be updating these containers. Never done that before. Any advice? If you initially installed these https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/docker.html#mailman-3-in-docker…, see https://asynchronous.in/docker-mailman/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 10:13, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > See post from 10/28 at 5:25. If you want to refer to a prior post, it is much better to refer to it with a link to the archive, in this case https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 09:17, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > mm/var not var. Confusing. Anyway I found the logs. Here is the error.log > > [2025-10-31 15:12:04 +0000] [174276] [WARNING] Invalid request from ip=127.0.0.1: Invalid HTTP request line: 'ÿ > ôÿý\x06\x04' > > That looks like something is garbled up. Try setting loglevel = 'debug' in your gunicorn.conf and restarting gunicorn. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 12:19, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't think I understand. Are you saying the import (and the other commands) should be this: > > python mailman-web hyperkitty_import -l foo-list(a)example.com $var_prefix/archives/private/foo-list.mbox/foo-list.mbox With your venv active the command is just `mailman-web` not `python mailman-web` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/2/25 07:57, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Got it. Something else that needs to be added as an Ubuntu note. The following need to be enabled: > > sudo a2enmod proxy proxy_http proxy_balancer lbmethod_byrequests Actually, of the above, only proxy and proxy_http are enabled on the working systems I support. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/2/25 06:45, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > That seems to have worked. Thanks. Shouldn't that be documented as well? It (the name of the Django admin command) is documented in the Note in the first section of the top level doc at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web Cleaning Up a Few Issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/4/25 11:55, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I installed mailman-web 0.0.10 and that cleared up half the problem. The django-admin problem still exists. Do I need to create the directory /var/run/mailman3-web or should there be a different path specified somewhere? Did you see https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… Did you do the suggested grep? What does it find? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web Cleaning Up a Few Issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/25 09:47, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Thanks. I just decided to send the cron job output to /dev/null. I think you need to find the cause of those errors rather than ignoring them and potentially more serious ones. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: update problems in virtualenv

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/6/25 05:55, Lichtinger, Bernhard wrote: > > Is it safe to use latest from gitlab for production usage? Yes. Officially, we say it's beta quality, but we run it in production for this list and for hundreds of lists on mail.python.org. > With python-3.13 in Debian stable it would be nice if we could get a new relase of mailman3 with all the fixes for python-3.13. We know, but the release manager is an unpaid volunteer with a day job. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web Cleaning Up a Few Issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/6/25 08:27, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > When I said mailman3 I did not mean it was installed outside of venv. My bad. Sorry. You should still do sudo apt list mailman3 mailman3-web mailman3-full mailman3-doc to see if any of those packages is installed. I don't know how the /etc/cron.d/mailman3-web crontab would have been created except by installation of one of those packages. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/7/25 08:47, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Now that I THINK all the other issues are resolved I can get back to this. I can't answer your questions. I can't explain it unless django came already already installed with Ubuntu server.There is 'python3-django' installed outside of the venv. Can I simply remove it? Yes, you can remove it. I expect it got there as a dependency of mailman3-web which it appears was at some time installed and then removed but not purged. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/7/25 10:11, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't know what package installed that but I'm guessing came with python3. I don't think so it would not be installed as part of python3 or python3-dev. There are multiple things in these threads that strongly suggest that at some point `apt install mailman3-web` was done. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 09:06, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Arrrgggggg!!!! This is so frustrating: > > $ mailman create --domain --owner uuuuu(a)dddddddd.net lllllllllllll(a)dddddddd.net --domain is the default and --owner is not necessary as the owner(s) will be imported from the MM 2.1 list. > Error: List already exists: lllllllllllll(a)dddddddd.net And what does `mailman info` show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 09:24, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I am assuming the 's' is a typo as there is no table mailinglists. Yes, sorry. > mysql> select list_name from mailinglist; > Empty set (0.00 sec) > > $ ls -l /opt/mailman/mm/var/lists > total 0 I'm still waiting for a response to https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 13:11, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I did the create and it says it was created. I guess that means I blew it away correctly. However, it still does not show up in the db: What does `mailman info` now show for the database? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Xapian alternatives

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/10/25 21:15, Mark Labeste via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi Mark, Do you have documentation how to use Xapian in MM3? https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setting-up-full… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/25 10:18, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > This wouldn't have anything to do with the fact I am using a self signed certificate, would it? It could, but I think only if when you POST the login your browser complains about the certificate and you have to OK it before it posts the request. Such a scenario might lose the cookie. Otherwise, I don't think so. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Postfix Hooks and Fetchmail

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/14/25 11:46, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I think I may have the aliases wrong based on what fetchmail is doing. Can I send you a PM with the unsanitized fetchmail info? Yes. Also include the contents of the /opt/mailman/var/data/postfix_* files. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months

[MM3-users] Re: is anyone here?

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/20/25 8:38 AM, alain williams wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 01:52:09PM +0000, James Greig wrote: > > 👋 And, if you go to https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/ you'll see this list is quite active. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Finding all held messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/28/25 5:43 PM, Peter Chubb via Mailman-users wrote: > > Hi Folks, > Is there a way from the Web UI to find all lists with held > messages? In the next release of Postorius The count of members, held messages and held subscription requests is displayed in the list overview page, but until then, No. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html#news-1-3-14 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Internal Server Errors in mailmanweb.log

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/18/25 03:07, Washington Odhiambo via Mailman-users wrote: > I keep seeing several errors like the below in my mailmanweb.log and not > sure what the causa is. What is your HyperKitty version? If it is 1.3.12 from PyPI and not the latest from gitlab, See https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/529 and https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/660 for a patch to fix this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Run Web Frontend

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/26/25 07:25, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > If it becomes impossible I will switch back to mailman2 which works on my CentOS system. This is a viable solution, but depending on your CentOS version, you may need to install Python 2 from source. See https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-2718/ Much of your issue with Mailman 3 is because in MM 3, mail delivery to Mailman is different and list names include the domain. This prevents things which worked in your MM 2 configuration from working in MM 3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Change Member's Address

by Mark Sapiro

On January 15, 2026 8:54:27 AM PST, dap1--- via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >https://whatever/django/auth/user/ page not found My bad. As Odhiambo says, those URLs should be https://whatever/admin/..., not https://whatever/django/... -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Change Member's Address

by Mark Sapiro

On January 15, 2026 9:00:52 AM PST, dap1--- via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >I think we can wrap this up. Magically the original superuser is now showing confirmed and seems to work. The only remaining issue is the from header showing up as lllllllll.bounces rather than just llllllll. What is the exact From: header? Does your mailman/handlers/dmarc.py look like <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/handlers/dmarc…>? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Domain defaults for new lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/29/26 15:43, Peter Chubb via Mailman-users wrote: > > Thanks Mark --- how do I make that the default though? in the [styles] section in mailman.cfg set default: private-default -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Phantom Email Address in Nonmember List

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/31/26 15:13, Steve Brown via Mailman-users wrote: > The good news is that I now know what "grepping" is. Am I correct that I cannot do that as a mere list manager and not a Mailman3 platform operator with Linux? One needs shell access to the server and permission to read log files. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Permissions Error on /var/mail/mailman

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/3/26 11:47, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > I assume you meant sudo chown mailman /var/mail/mailman. Yes, That's what I meant. After you do that, any further such messages should be delivered to that mbox where you can see what they are. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Issues with Mail delivery after Mailman 3 installation

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/4/26 02:21, Chihurumnaya Ibiam via Mailman-users wrote: > > You're right about "localhost" causing confusion, I switched to using the > IP address instead, the logs > showed that Mailman tried to connect on [::1] and there wasn't a response, > that might be from Mailman itself though as the > port is open. > > I don't have a preference for IPv6. Edit /etc/hosts and change the `localhost` entry from ::1 to 127.0.0.1 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman and Postfix Conflicting Information

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/6/26 10:06, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Yes, I see this: > > 2026-02-06T10:33:49.632822-05:00 dap002 postfix/lmtp[185616]: 7304C500071: to=<lllllllll(a)gmail.com>, relay=127.0.0.1[12 > 7.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.17, delays=0.09/0.02/0/0.06, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) So the mail is delivered to Mailman's lmtp runner as it should be. What's in mailman.log and smtp.log? You can get a bit more log info by setting ``` [logging.smtp] level: debug ``` in mailman.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman and Postfix Conflicting Information

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/8/26 09:03, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > A bounce was logged for each list member. Yes, I do get a bounce notice as list owner but that goes via the default relay rather than gmail. So the issue is not with Mailman per se. What MTA is bouncing the messages and for what reason? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Issues with Mail delivery after Mailman 3 installation

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/9/26 12:17, Ibiam Chihurumnaya via Mailman-users wrote: > It would be great if mailman can ban domains and not just users, just noticed a flurry of spam from a particular domain. It can. Entries in the ban list can be addresses or regexps beginning with ^ that match addresses such as ^.*[@.]example.com$ to match any address in the example.com domain or a subdomain thereof. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Confirmation emails aren't sent to users.

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/13/26 12:41, Ibiam Chihurumnaya via Mailman-users wrote: > Makes sense, I didn't think I needed to. > > Couldn't see them with mailman conf though. Mailman conf only shows Mailman core settings - defaults and things you set in mailman.cfg. It doesn't know about any Django settings. To see the Django settings that differ from default values use django-admin diffsettings To see all settings with defaults flagged with ### use django-admin diffsettings --all -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Confirmation emails aren't sent to users.

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/14/26 01:04, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > `mailman-web diffsettings` also works. (As far as I know > `mailman-web` is effectively an alias for django-admin.) Actually, in our recommended virtualenv install mailman-web is preferred because django-admin doesn't load /etc/mailman3/settings.py by default. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Receiving Email from ListName-bounce@Domain for Unsubcribe

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/26 13:55, Marin Sok via Mailman-users wrote: > > Should I try to modify the code in file notifications.py in line 137. You could change that line from address, mlist.bounces_address, to address, mlist.owner_address, if you feel it's important. I will probably do something about https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1260 so it will be fixed for the next release. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Error After Posted Message in Archive

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/20/26 14:48, msok--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi All, > > After I started a new threat and posted message, I received an error. > Where should I take a look into this issue? What was the error you received? Depending on the error you may find information in Mailman core's mailman.log or in Django's logs. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: config_list in Mailman3?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/2/26 20:18, John Price via Mailman-users wrote: > Is there a way to do this in Mailman3? > > # Mailman2 backup individual list config > # $list = list name > # writes config to mailman.cfg > $MAILMAN_ROOT/bin/config_list -o mailman.cfg $list Not at present. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1182> and <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/13>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 weeks, 4 days

[MM3-users] Re: How to upgrade to 3.10

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/7/26 17:02, Paul Tomblin via Mailman-users wrote: > > Ok, I've done those, and the migrate, compress, collectstatic. Where does base_url get set? base_url is an attribute of the domain and can be set in Postorius in the domains view. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 week, 6 days

[MM3-users] Re: Reset bounce count in MM3

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/8/26 17:20, iMark wrote: > Hi, > > Is there an equivalent of Mailman 2's "bin/reset_bounce.py" in Mailman 3 ? reset_bounce.py is not part of Mailman 2.1. It is one of my scripts <https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/reset_bounce.py>. Currently there is no Mailman3 equivalent. It wouldn't be hard to make one, but I haven't done so yet. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 week, 5 days

[MM3-users] Re: Django 5.2 LTS and mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/13/26 09:09, via Mailman-users wrote: > Let me expand on this, in that I am failing to get django 5.2 and mailman 3 components to work together in a python3.12 venv. Specifically, despite PIP looking like it understands that the requirements indicate that the allowable range for it's dependency on django is <5.3, pip uninstalls 5.2 and puts in 5.0.14 You have to also install django-mailman3 and hyperkitty from Gitlab as the released versions of these require django>=4.2,<5.1 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 week, 1 day

[MM3-users] Re: list not found

by Mark Sapiro

Thomas Krichel wrote: > cp $qdir/bad/$psv_bana $qdir/in/$pck_bana The message shouldn't always go to the `in` queue. The second object in the pickled file is the message metadata and it normally contains a `whichq` item which says which queue it should be restored to. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/commands/cli_u…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 days, 16 hours

[MM3-users] Re: alembic version

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/17/26 03:24, Thomas Krichel wrote: > > (venv) mailman@darni:/usr/local/mailman$ alembic -c /usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/mailman/config/alembic.cfg history > FAILED: No 'script_location' key found in configuration. That was my error. The path to the config above was missing the site-packages directory. If I divined the correct Debian package location it should have been /usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/mailman/config/alembic.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 days, 3 hours

[MM3-users] Re: Changing display name with "mailman withlist"

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/5/17 12:29 AM, Mark Ziranski wrote: > > When executing the script as written in the manual, I get the following error: > > (venv-3.5) [root@localhost mailman]# mailman withlist -r change example(a)example.org 'new display name' > usage: mailman [-h] [-v] [-C CONFIG] > {help,aliases,conf,create,digests,import21,info,inject,lists,members,qfile,remove,reopen,restart,shell,start,status,stop,unshunt,version,withlist} > ... > mailman: error: unrecognized arguments: new display name This is a known bug <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/319>. I will work on a fix. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: footer message

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/28/2018 06:46 PM, Abhijith PA via Mailman-users wrote: > Hello. > > Is there any way to enable footer for some lists at the same time > disable for lists. I maintain an mailman3 instance and some of the lists > in it need the footer message well some not. You can make list specific templates for list:member:regular:footer and/or list:member:digest:footer. If the template is empty, no footer will be added. See <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/templates.ht…> and <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/handlers/docs/decorate…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Race condition when mass subscribing same email addresses to two lists?

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/21 5:50 PM, Alan So wrote: > Thanks a lot. Just curious whether it is a new issue of 3.3.5 or just an old issue that rarely happen practically. We have been using 3.2 for some time and we are evaluating whether we should go for an upgrade now to resolve some other issues. It is not a new issue. It has always been there. It's easy enough to avoid, just don't run parallel mass subscribes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: using SSH/TLS with external MTA

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/24 04:03, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > I am following this thread out of curiosity. > So I added the same lines to my /opt/mailman3/settings.py - on a virtualenv > install of the latest MM3 code.It's my test VM. > After adding the lines and restarting mailmanweb, I then entered the > virtualenv and did 'mailman-web createsuperuser' which completed > successfully, but NO MAIL! And why do you think `mailman-web createsuperuser` results in mail being sent? (It doesn't) -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: list's RSS feed has wrong URLs (base path instead of subdomain)

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/27/25 10:48, Simone via Mailman-users wrote: > > I have set this up and it's working well so far, but today I noticed that links in list's RSS feed point to https://mydomain.tld, while mailman is running on https://lists.mydomain.tld. > > I wouldn't know how to fix this.. any hints? I'm not seeing this in, e.g., output from https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/feed/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Fwd: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /archives/search

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/27/23 05:53, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 11:48 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >> >> Note that when following >> https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html you create >> /etc/mailman3/settings.py and it contains >> ``` >> from mailman_web.settings.base import * >> from mailman_web.settings.mailman import * >> ``` >> to establish a base set of settings that can be augmented or overridden >> in /etc/mailman3/settings.py. mailman_web.settings.mailman in turn contains >> ``` >> HAYSTACK_CONNECTIONS = { >> 'default': { >> 'ENGINE': 'haystack.backends.whoosh_backend.WhooshEngine', >> 'PATH': "fulltext_index", >> ``` >> which is a relative path for fulltext_index and may need to be set to an >> absolute path. >> > > Mi Mark, > > I have read this page - > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html and further - > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#initial-config > - without clicking any external links. > I still don't see the HAYSTACK_CONNECTIONS in the settings.py included on > that page. > I am missing something obvious, no? Please reread what I wrote above. HAYSTACK_CONNECTIONS is not in the suggested settings.py but it is in mailman_web.settings.mailman and is imported by the suggested settings.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: hyperkitty failed to create a thread

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/11/19 9:47 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > What could be a reason of HyperKitty failing to create a thread from > chained emails? > > For example, see "RECENTLY ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS" on page > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/ > > "Openvpn and Network mapping" discussion displayed as five threads instead > of only one... > > Any ideas how to improve HyperKitty ability to detect threaded messages? Thanks for the report. The MR at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/merge_requests/125> will fix this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Core, Hyperkitty and Postorius releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/14/21 5:02 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:52 PM Jeff Steele <jeff(a)steele.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> /bin/sh: sass: Permission denied* >> >> >> >> Did you check the permissions on your sass binary? >> > > My mailman installed in /opt/mailman/mm > > find /opt/mailman/ -type f -name sass > > yielded nothing! Try `which sass` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 generates long lines?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/23/21 7:45 AM, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Thanks Mark, that's what I did. After the restart I needed to activate > it on a per-list basis. > > However, I'd prefer to be able to do that on global basis. Not a big > issue, but still thought it worth asking. You can do it with a `mailman shell` script. Something like ``` >>> for mlist in getUtility(IListManager).mailing_lists: ... for archiver in IListArchiverSet(mlist).archivers: ... if archiver.name == 'prototype': ... archiver.is_enabled = True ... >>> commit() ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Setup Question: Disk-Layout (Migrating from Mailman 2.1)

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/17/25 3:18 AM, christian.schneider(a)tu-dortmund.de wrote: > > But I could find no information about the location where hyperkitty stores the archives on an Ubuntu-/Linux-system. > I assume the archives are stored underneath "/var/..." this is only a guess. > But is this guess right? As answered in other replies, HyperKitty stores its archives in tables in the configured database. However, if the prototype archiver is enabled, those archives are stored in maildir format in Mailman's var/archives/prototype/ directory. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 14:28, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > True. But putting a file inside sites-enabled/ or conf-enabled/ still > achieves the same result. > Apache's a2ensite/a2enmod will create the symlinks in the *-enabled/ > subdirs, but putting files in there, with the right extensions still does > it. Yes it works, but it also breaks a2(en|dis)(site|mod|conf) functionality for that site/mod/conf. Configurations should always be in a *-available/ directory with symlinks in the corresponding *-enabled/ directory so that the tools work as advertised. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius password resets

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/20 9:24 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> On 10/14/20 11:11 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > >>> I am having an issue with our system where password resets are giving the users an email with a http://localhost:8000 URL. I have made sure settings in settings_local.py (and even settings.py) are as follows: >>> >>> POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL = 'https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org' > >> This is not relevant. > > Does it need resetting back to http://localhost:8000? Not if it works. Most likely either one is OK, but localhost:8000 avoids a DNS lookup an proxying through the web server. >>> However emails are still coming through with the wrong URL. > >> I'm not sure offhand, but it's either domains in Postorius or sites in the django admin UI. > > I've checked both and cannot see any errors (I just have the one site lists.hodgsonfamily.org) and nothing is empty which seems as though it needs filling in. What's in `sites` and what's in `Mail domains` in the django admin UI and what's in Web Host in the Postorius domains view - in particular, if you have Postorius 1.3.3, what's the SITE_ID, and what's SITE_ID in settings(_local).py. Also, when you go to the archive UI, whats the domain at the top left of the pages. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 09/23/2017 07:36 AM, David Krantz wrote: > Still two problems: > > 1. I do not know how to force a cache invalidation on a template. So > only way to change is to set a new name on the file and change the uri > there. Unpractical. No, restarts do not work. Have you tried restarting/reloading whatever dbm (MySQL, PostgreSQL, ?) you are using? > 2. the $user_delivered_to and $user_email do not expand for some > reason. Known problem? These require that the list delivery be personalized. See <http://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/runners/docs/outgoing.h…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: localhost[::1] said: 550 Requested action not, taken: mailbox unavailable

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/26/2017 03:54 PM, Bjoern Franke wrote: > Hi, > > I created & imported a bunch of 2.1 lists and for one of the lists mm3 > replies mailbox unavailable to postfix. > > I have no clue why this happens because the other lists work. We need more information. What are the postfix log messages associated with the error? Is the list's domain the same as the working ones? Are there entries for the list in Mailman's var/data/postfix_lmtp? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/20 11:48 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > Though you are for sure that the current versions as I am claiming the > above one is perfectly without any issue, please also suggest what would be > the best previous version which definitely does not have that issue because > I even checked out the immediate previous version of mailmanclient but > still I am getting the same error. Follow this document <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#virtualenv-inst…> and install with pip. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: I need professional help to get virtualenv Mailman3 installation running

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/8/21 2:02 PM, John Seifarth via Mailman-users wrote: > > But when I try to connect via the Web, I get the message "Server error An error occurred while processing your request.” in my browser. No other clues. I’m completely stuck, and I need help to conclude this rapidly, the client really needs the new service up and running ASAP. What's in /opt/mailman/web/logs/mailmanweb.log, /opt/mailman/web/logs/uwsgi*.log and also maybe Apache's error log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Bounces

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/05/2017 01:16 PM, David Krantz wrote: > > How do I config mailman 3.1x to send any unrecognized bounces to e.g. > the list owner? Now they just end up in the bounces table but I would > like to see the entire message in this case. The short answer is you can't. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/343>. The bottom line is we aren't doing anything with bounces other than storing them. We need to fix that, and we will (It's targeted for 3.2). If you could help with code, that would be great. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Broken web interface Ubuntu 20.04

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/30/21 2:30 PM, tim(a)thecutts.org wrote: > > When I look at the mailman-web-logs, the urls that postorious puts into the page don't honour the POSTORIOUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL variable in the mailman-web.py file any more. I'm not saying there isn't an issue in Postorius, but I don't think it has anything to do with POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL which is only used for templates and has nothing to do with the rendering of the list pages and shouldn't contain anything beyond the host and port in any case. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Messages not going to held queue

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/8/22 10:08, Mail Person wrote: > I'm currently running 3.3.5 But your traceback says: ``` File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/uid.py", line 155, in _next_unpredictable_id x = random.random() + right_now % 1.0 + time.clock() % 1.0 AttributeError: module 'time' has no attribute 'clock' ``` and that line was changed to ``` x = random.random() + right_now % 1.0 + time.process_time() % 1.0 ``` by https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/552 in Mailman 3.3.0 so the traceback you report at `https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message/EC2DTCULSVCRR2ZPWVZXZU67KX3MZ46P/` was produced by Mailman < 3.3.0. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Permissions issue after upgrade of virtualenv

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/9/23 11:25, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Thu Mar 09 22:17:59.313459 2023] [core:error] [pid 15655] (13)Permission > denied: [client 197.232.xx.xx:26574] AH00035: access to / denied > (filesystem path '/opt/mailman/mm') because search permissions are missing > on a component of the path, referer: https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > I did not change Apache config and I made sure that /opt/mailman is all > owned by mailman:mailman. > > What am I missing? X permission on one or more of /opt, /opt/mailman, /opt/mailman/mm -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 12:14, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > As an aside, mailmanweb will not start with gunicorn named gunicorn.conf. It only works if it is named gunicorn.py. I don't know if that is an Ubuntu thing but it probably needs to be documented. For me it issues a warning but starts up just fine. I don't know what's wrong with your installation, but it seems to have serious issues compared to one which I created by following the doc at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Email commands

by Mark Sapiro

On 09/22/2016 02:34 AM, Jean-Luc Wasmer wrote: > Hi, > > I wasn't able to find documentation about the currently support email > commands for Mailman 3. Documentation can be found by sending a 'help' command to the -request address. More detail on a specific command can be obtained via, e.g., 'help subscribe'. > The following command doesn't work for me (mailman bundler 3.0.0): > subscribe address=$<$ADDRESS$>$ Currently, the only option is [digest=<no|mime|plain>] > Will this be supported later on? Submit a request at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/25/2017 12:18 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > I put this config in mailman.cfg: > > To configure Core to use Postfix, add the following configuration to your > mailman.cfg configuration, be sure to replace mail.example.com with your > email domain: > > [mta] > incoming: mailman.mta.postfix.LMTP > outgoing: mailman.mta.deliver.deliver > lmtp_host: mail.example.com > lmtp_port: 8024 > smtp_host: mail.example.com > smtp_port: 25 > > > is this correct?? Probably it should be lmtp_host: 127.0.0.1 and smtp_host: localhost but see mailman/config/schema.cfg for the defaults and more docs. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/10/25 1:37 AM, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > > The difference I am talking about is that lists.example1.com/postorius/ > lists shows only its mailing lists while lists.example2.com/postorius/ > lists shows all mailing lists on the server (ie. also mailing lists of > example1.com) What is your Postorius version? Whether Postorius displays all lists or only those matching the current host is controlled by the FILTER_VHOST setting. There was an issue with this prior to Postorius 1.3.3. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/394 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Unknown attribute: max_message_size

by Mark Sapiro

On 06/21/2018 03:29 AM, Alexander Klotz wrote: > Hi, > > unfortunately we still have problems configuring a list so that it > allows a message size larger than 40 KB. Neither the workaround > described here: > https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/commit/f86ab7fb5cc6edeb23c43336b677c24… > (required was already set to false) nor this docker setup by yova > https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/issues/246 worked. Are there any > other options we could try? Use 'mailman shell'. I.e. 'mailman shell -l listname@domain' and set m.max_message_size = N where N is the number of KB you want. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: New releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/8/20 1:01 PM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > I have Postorius verson 1.3.3 but I still see horizontal tabs not vertical > menus. > > Could you elaborate more on this? The first row of horizontal tabs is unchanged, but the `Settings` tab used to have a second horizontal row and now has a vertical list on the left. After you upgraded did you run these django-admin commands? ``` django-admin collectstatic --clear --noinput --verbosity 0 django-admin compress django-admin compilemessages django-admin migrate ``` These 4 commands should be run after every update to Postorius, HyperKitty or django_mainlman3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Issues with cross posted emails after upgrading to mailman 3.3.6

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/21 2:07 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Are we guaranteed to get a separate LMTP delivery for each list? That > is, if the MTA receives 2 RCPT TOs to lists for one transaction, won't > it do the same in LMTP when it sends forwards the message to Mailman? It doesn't matter. The LMTP runner makes a separate `in` queue entry for each recipient list, thus these are processed as separate messages regardless of how they arrived. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: new list not working

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/9/23 14:32, Christian via Mailman-users wrote: > When I ran > > mailman members -r -n enabled redlatinleg(a)lists.ccalternatives.org > > I did receive a list of subscribers for the new list I created, not just the > owner or moderator. > > Upon closer examination, another of my longtime working lists is also not > working. Similar behavior as the new list I created in that I see the > message has been archived, but not distributed to the subscribers. What do your MTA logs show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: NGINX reports 502 after fresh install

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/28/23 13:19, Mailman wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm working my way through the recommended installation in a Python virtual environment. > > I seem to have the components installed and working but when I try to access the web interface I receive an error 502 from the web server. > > I'm assuming I've misconfigured something in Nginx. Have you configured nginx per <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#nginx-configura…>? Is your wsgi server (uWSGI or Gunicorn) running and listening on port 8000? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Archive date/time vs elapsed time

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/26/23 11:41 PM, Mark wrote: > > No, I don't see it on the MM users' archive. > The archive where I'm seeing it is HyperKitty version 1.3.4 on a Debian > packaged MM 3.3.3 > The problem lay therein? I don't know if this is a change since 1.3.4 or an issue with the Debian package. The latest Debian stable (bookworm) has more up to date packages if you can upgrade. In any case, this does not seem to be an issue in current HyperKitty. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hiding an ML from a site

by Mark Sapiro

On February 6, 2024 7:45:14 AM PST, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >I had this set to True in settings_local.py, but False in settings.py. >So it seems to not make a difference in my setup. In a standard setup, anything set in settings_local.py overrides any corresponding setting in settings.py. That said, FILTER_VHOSTS is not perfect. It only works for Postorius if the separate web hosts also have different mail hosts. See lines 1051 et seq at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/blob/master/src/postorius/views/list…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: locked files problem after reboot

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/23/19 5:36 AM, mailman3(a)malevil.cc wrote: > hey, I have got a problem with flufl.lock in mailman3. When my server is rebooted, locked files seems to stay and cause errors so mailman3 core wont start (it is started automatically by supervisord service): ... > I have to remove the files in var/locks manually to go forward. Is there a configuration error for my setup? Or is it just a not fixed bug? Add the --force option to the 'mailman start' command in your startup script. i.e. `mailman start --force` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Error Curiosity

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/20 2:11 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > This happened again. Is there a way to get HK to deal with such messages automatically? How would you like them dealt with? The issue is in mailman-hyperkitty. When it's attempt to archive the message returns an error, it queues the message for retry. It is not clear if any of these errors are actually retryable - for sure some aren't but maybe others like HyperKitty not responding are - but even if we think retry won't succeed what would you like done with the message? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: UnpicklingError on mailman lists command

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/2/21 7:35 PM, Bryan Loniewski wrote: > $ /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman version > GNU Mailman 3.3.2 (Tom Sawyer) > > So, I'm running > 3.2. Any other advice on debugging the truncated data? The traceback indicates sqlalchemy is unpickling data whose type is PickleType. The only mailinglist columns which are PickleType are the legacy *these_nonmembers and topics. You could try invoking mysql on Mailman's database and doing SELECT list_name, accept_these_nonmembers, hold_these_nonmembers, reject_these_nonmembers, discard_these_nonmembers, topics FROM mailinglist; and look for the longest values to possibly identify the problem list and attribute. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problem with importing lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/1/24 11:09 AM, Alain D D Williams wrote: > This is a problem that I had before. > > Creating a new email list, adding members - all goes well the members can send > email to the list and it is sent out. > > Create an email list and import configuration data from mailman 2.1.20 > *sometimes* has problems - mail is received, archived but not sent out. Are you running `mailman import21` as `root` and thus creating files in Mailman's var/templates/lists/ directory that can't be read by `mailman`? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty django.request forbidden

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/1/25 08:02, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Arpad Horvath via Mailman-users writes: > > > ERROR 2025-02-26 06:47:31,705 861 hyperkitty.views.mailman Access to the archiving API endpoint was forbidden from IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, your MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM setting may be misconfigured > [...] > > I have this line in /etc/mailman3/mailman-web.py > > > > MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM = ('https://lists.somewhere.xx/hyperkitty', '::1') As Steve says, 'https://lists.somewhere.xx/hyperkitty' is inappropriate for MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM. In particilar, MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM must include the IP 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' from the above log message. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Confirmation Email Not Sent

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/31/25 08:56, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > So I am now trying to add a member to my list using the ...join address. I get back a message saying the request is pending. And what does this message say? It should be the confirmation request to the user built from the mailman/templates/en/list:user:action:subscribe.txt template. > I can also see it on the pending user confirmation page. However, there is nothing showing up on the pending approval page Because it is not waiting moderator approval, it is waiting user confirmation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/21/2017 04:43 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > YEEEES! At last!!! I can see the web UI. > > Now I´m getting this message in the web UI: > > Something went wrong > Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core. > > > > Where do I configure the REST API ????? So I guess you figured out that ALLOWED_HOSTS is a Django setting in settings.py or wherever your Django settings are. Now you have to start Mailman Core. In your Python 3 'env' where you installed Mailman Core, run 'bin/mailman start'. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/25/2017 01:21 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > Regarding this: > > # To be added to Django's settings.py > > EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend' > EMAIL_HOST = 'localhost' > EMAIL_PORT = 25 > EMAIL_HOST_USER = <username> > EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = <password> > > > > What should I use for username and password? > Should I keep the localhost on the host param? If you want Django (i.e. Postorius, Hyperkitty and Django admin/auth/etc.) to deliver via localhost, you don't need EMAIL_HOST_USER and EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD. Those are only for authentication to some other host. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: join via webform

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/21/19 6:32 AM, mailman3(a)malevil.cc wrote: > but that means you have to login first and need a password, ok. That is not very convenient, so I think about setting up a simple (external) form where users can enter their emailaddress and its then used to send a message to list-leave(a)example.com. That would certainly work, but you should ensure that the list's unsubscription_policy is not 'open' so people can't unsubscribe others without their knowledge. The default policy is 'confirm' so it should be OK if you haven't changed it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius & multi domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/22/20 11:37 AM, Gelpi Andrea wrote: > > I'm not a python programmer so I ask you if it'd be long to implement a > workaround like this. > > If the web server is a.example.com and the email domain is example.com > > It'd be possible to drop the "a" and send the email domain only in the > query? > > It's a workaround. Can you help me in this? I'm currently working on a better fix. I'll post here on my progress. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman services under systemd

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/22/20 2:13 PM, Morris Jones wrote: > First post, I'm building a new mail server as my tired old server can > no longer meet security requirements. (It's long overdue.) > I see where Torge Riedel is running the mailman service under systemd, > but I'm having trouble doing that. I don't see a mailman option that > doesn't detach as a daemon. > Did I miss something? Anyone have a systemd service example I might > pilfer? <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experience?action=At…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Recommended mySQL Database Setup & Archive Importing

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/20 1:02 PM, matthew(a)alberti.us wrote: > Mark/Ruth/The List, > Thanks for the prompt responses. Before I try to figure out a way to > correct this... is the "character_set_database" the only thing I should be > looking at? You need to set 'OPTIONS': {'charset': 'utf8mb4'} in the DATABASES['default'] definition in your django settings. I'm not sure if this overrides the various collation, etc. settings in the DB or not, but it wouldn't hurt to update the DB. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to create my first mailing list

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/18/22 18:22, liutianhua68(a)163.com wrote: > Hello: > I have installed mailman3 with docker, configured "MAILMAN_ADMIN" in docker-compose.yaml, but after logging into web with this user, there is nowhere to create mailing list. > How should I create a super admin account now or where to create the first mailing list, is there any reference documentation, please help, thanks. Documentation is at https://asynchronous.in/docker-mailman/ See https://asynchronous.in/docker-mailman/web/#running for creating a Django superuser. Once created, the superuser can create lists in Postorius. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: serving /static-content within /mailman3-web-Folder - change in recent mm release

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/29/22 06:50, Stefan Bauer wrote: > Hi Folks, > > during our migration to latest MM we noticed, that nowadays, the static > content is not served from within mailmans base directory, but from outside. > > old MM3: > > domain.tld/mailman3/static/django-mailman3/js/main.js > > new MM3: > > domain.tld/static/django-mailman3/js/main.js > > Is there a chance to change it to the old behavior? See the Django settings STATIC_ROOT and STATIC_URL. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Settings, Message Acceptance, Discard these non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/22/25 12:10, Philip Bondi wrote: > Hello to all: > > We receive quite a bit of spam. I try to maintain some regular expressions in "Discard these non-members" to block spammers. > > Where would the "discard" notification be logged? I think the docs say "mailman.log". What would I search for? The message is written to the mailman.vette log which by default is included in the mailman.log file. The log message is DISCARD: MESSAGE-ID; The sender is in the nonmember discard list -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Too Many From Headers

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/17/25 07:07, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't know if this is related or not but rather then the list name being in the from header, it is either the list owner or the sender address. Since I'm both I don't know how to tell which from my test emails. It should be the sender. Nothing in Mailman would but the list's owner address there. You still haven't answered whether it is one From: header with the address repeated 5 times or 5 separate From: headers. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Fwd: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/1/21 1:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > When Python runs or imports from a .py file, it first looks for a > corresponding .pyc file and if that is as new or newer than the .py, it > uses the .pyc. If not, it uses the .py and byte-compiles it and if it > has permission, writes an updated .pyc > > Except recent Python3 (at least I think 3.5 and newer doesn't use a .pyc > in the same directory as the .py Its uses a __pycache__ directory in the > same directory as the .py and within that directory a file like in this > case settings_local.cpython-37.pyc (or whatever the python version is) > > In any case, I would remove the existing settings_local.pyc. That can't > hurt, but I'm curious what > > ls -lR /usr/share/mailman3-web/ > > shows. It just occurred to me what the issue is. It is almost certainly that there is a /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings_local.pyc that is as new or newer than the /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings_local.py symlink even though it is older than the target /etc/mailman3/mailman-web.py. Just remove that .pyc, and that should fix it. But I still wonder what python version this is since current Mailman requires python >= 3.6 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core.

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/20 11:28 AM, joseverde(a)gmail.com wrote: > Alrighty, so resetting the permissions and running as list got things running. I was able to start mailman, although when it started I got 4 pages of exceptions. Here's one shortened example (most seemed to follow the same pattern): Your issues all seem to be MemoryError This is a Python detected out of memory condition. You need more RAM or you need to configure or increase the size of a swap file. What does `free` show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: import an mm3 hyperkitty archive

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/22 09:16, Eggert Ehmke wrote: > Where is it stated that in this situation I have to run mailman-web instead of django-admin? I said: >> Note in the above, `django-admin` is the command you use to invoke >> Django's management which may be `django-admin`, `manage.py`, >> `mailman-web` or something else depending on how Mailman is installed. and while it is not explicitly stated, when using mailman-web per https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#installing-web-… all the examples show the command as `mailman-web`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: New Lists Appear in HyperKitty Archives, But No Mail Data is Shown

by Mark Sapiro

On July 14, 2025 11:44:56 AM EDT, Asif Muzammil via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >Hi Mark, > >i have spool data at /opt/mailman/mm/var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ some files available 17375475,38829901003948757.pck >so now what to do with this? Please give me guideline now what do next? Find the relevant errors and tracebacks in /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/mailman.log. If those aren't sufficient for you to understand and fix the issue, post one exception and traceback here and we will help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

8 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: mass invitation

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/20/19 9:07 AM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019, at 7:17 AM, mailman3(a)malevil.cc wrote: >> in postorius there is just the option to make a mass subscription, in >> mailman2 there was also the possibility to just invite users, so they >> need to click a link when they really want to join the list. Is this >> also available in mailman3/postorius? > > > No, not yet. There is an open issue that I can't dig out right now. The issue is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/510> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Converting discussion list to read-only list (settings)

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/19 3:14 AM, Paul Arenson wrote: > >> Announce only style the list attribute > allow_list_posts is False and for the Discussion style, it's True. > > I guess I should leave it as TRUE if I am keeping as discussion list, but since I am moderating all comments, I am guessing it doesn't matter. Am I right? Yes, leave it True. It only matters for users replying by email with MUAs that provide a "reply-list" function, but for them, it is helpful. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: installation

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/21/20 5:40 PM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote: > What do I do now about this? > > (venv) root@localhost:/opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project# > python manage.py collectstatic > > You have requested to collect static files at the destination > location as specified in your settings: > > /opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project/static > > This will overwrite existing files! > Are you sure you want to do this? > > Type 'yes' to continue, or 'no' to cancel: y > CommandError: Collecting static files cancelled. > (venv) root@localhost:/opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project# y != yes -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Lessons learned and a couple little gotcha for newbies

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/13/22 05:23, Paul Ssekamatte via Mailman-users wrote: > hi William, > please clarify what you mean by this step > 8. You need to manually set the local virtual host for mailman3 > Thank you He means that if you are going to use the alias domain feature discussed at https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… you need to actually set the value you choose for the alias_domain in the Postorius domains view or via REST or `mailman shell`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Docker Installation of Mailman -- The Hyperkitty Chronicles

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/22/18 6:08 AM, brian(a)emwd.com wrote: > Using Maxking's docker project to install mailman3, I have a fairly functional mailman3 installation. However Hyperkitty is not archiving or showing list participants like: ... Check your list's Settings -> Archiving in Postorius and make sure policy is public or private and HyperKitty is active. Also, make sure the cron jobs are running. I'm not sure how this is set up in the Docker container, but see <http://docs.list.org/en/latest/config-web.html#scheduled-tasks-required>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: "Cannot connect to SMTP server localhost on port 25"

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/21/19 1:28 AM, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote: > > I cannot discern anything in the qfiles. It'd take some effort to > deanonymise them for posting here. > > I've had new posts in the list and they get stuck as well. It's a stretch, but I suggest you examine the list membership and remove any invalid local addresses. Also, look in the mail server's logs to see if you can see anything about incoming connections being established and then dropped. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/20 11:47 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > I have run the below commands for sure: > > $ cd mailmanclient > $ python setup.py develop > > And as you have suggested, I navigate to mailmanclient directory and ran > the git log to provide you the version output. And I am fairly certain that the running Mailman/Postorius installation is not using those files. I can't tell you why this is the case, but if it weren't, you wouldn't be seeing this error. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: unwanted chunked delivery

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/7/22 2:12 PM, mm3-omf(a)sh.werbittewas.de wrote: > > I understand, why chunking may have benefits perhaps in most situations, > so it's set as default, but it would be great, to have the possibility > to disable this without patching code, which might get overwritten with > an update. You could submit an issue as a feature request at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues, but I don't think we'd give it much priority. I think the trend these days is more towards enabling personalization and/or VERP which require one recipient per transaction. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/25 08:51, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't know if this has anything to do with anything but I'm seeing this line in the mailman3 status: > > mailman3.service: Can't open PID file /opt/mailman/mm/var/master.pid (yet?) > > I checked and the pid file is being created. This was asked by you at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… and answered at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… Also see https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/1397 and https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite-doc/-/merge_requests/183 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Member Issue Discovered

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/20/20 6:54 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > On 10/19/20 11:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> Mailman 3 is totally different from Mailman 2.1 in this respect. Mailman >> 2.1 had no concept of user. All it knew was addresses subscribed to >> lists and an address subscribed to one list had no connection to the >> same address subscribed to another list or being an owner or moderator >> of a list. > > I think this should still be the case for non-registered list members. > List owners/moderators are different. They HAVE to be registered users > of Postorius/Affinity in order to manage/moderate a list. Here's a thought. For Affinity/Empathy at least, how about using Mailman core's user as the Affinity registered user. I.e., if someone's first interaction is to register with Affinity, have that registration create a core user to keep the Affinity registration data. This core user already accommodates a display_name and password and email address(es). If the person already is a core user when registering for Affinity, just update the core user as needed, probably only a password reset or just setting it if it is currently None. Then you don't have the issue of another, separate registration for Affinity. This would be more difficult for Postorius/Hyperkitty because those users are Django users, but that isn't an issue for Affinity. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

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