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[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Mark Sapiro

On March 25, 2025 2:57:25 AM GMT+07:00, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > >Is there a way to change those moderator e-mails to send right away? Does having user(a)example.com in the config affect that? In each list's settings under Automatic responses, set Admin immed notify to Yes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

8 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Disabling the version disclosure.

by Mark Sapiro

On March 25, 2025 5:18:13 PM GMT+07:00, ninad--- via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > >Please let me know if there are any settings that I can set. I don't want to change any html code for the same. There are no settings for this. To remove the version from Postorius footers you would need to edit postorius/templates/postorius/base.html and for Hyperkitty, hyperkitty/templates/hyperkitty/base.html For Mailman core, where are you seeing the version exposed? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

8 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/26/25 5:30 AM, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > > Who should the moderator e-mail come from when the moderator has to approve something? I have been searching the logs and cannot find that an e-mail for that exists. It is From: the listname-owner address and sent to the listname-owner address which then resends it to the actual owner and moderator addresses. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Unsubscribe from a list

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/25/25 7:41 PM, pau.baiges(a)csuc.cat wrote: > I can only see the subscription policy Then you must have Postorius < 1.3.3 which was released almost 5 years ago. The latest release is 1.3.13. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html - You should consider upgrading. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Mark Sapiro

On March 27, 2025 2:20:56 AM GMT+07:00, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: >Mark, can you clarify the part about (Postorius Admin immed notify is Yes)? Is that a separate setting than admin_immed_notify is True? If so , how do I check that setting. They are the same. The setting is admin_immed_notify which is a True/False setting. This setting is exposed in Postorius as a Yes/No setting called Admin immediately notify. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

8 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Debian 12: Following docs does not create /opt/mailman/web/xapian_index

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/1/25 10:04 AM, Philip Bondi wrote: > > When I try to search, I get this stack trace by email: > > > Exception Type: PermissionError at /archives/search > Exception Value: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/opt/mailman/web/xapian_index' > Raised during: hyperkitty.views.search.search > Request information: > USER: pjbondi Why is this not running as the Mailman user? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Change delivery_status in bulk

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/3/25 19:36, Hitashi mancho via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now, I am unable to locate any command or an API call through which I can > change the delivery_status back to enabled for 1000+ users. > > Can you please guide me on how I can do this programmatically using cli (I > will write a bash script) or using an API call? See the post at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… for a mailman shell interaction to do this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Can't post to my own list from HyperKitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/6/25 17:30, MegaBrutal via Mailman-users wrote: >> > No, it doesn't say anything like that. It says if I'm not subscribed, > sending the message would subscribe me – no address is shown there at all. Compare your hyperkitty/templates/hyperkitty/fragments/send_as.html to https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/blob/master/hyperkitty/templates/hy… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Debian 12: Following docs does not create /opt/mailman/web/xapian_index

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/7/25 12:03, Philip Bondi wrote: > I'm logged into web interface as pjbondi when I try xapian search, and an email with this information is sent. What are the ownerships and permissions on /opt/mailman/web/xapian_index? they should be something like drwxrwxr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 7 12:00 xapian_index/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Info mails to list owners have "user@example.com" as from address (bounce score incremented)

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/25/25 02:50, Ulf R. wrote: > Hello, > mails to list owners with subjects like > <Mailaddress>'s bounce score incremented on <MyListName> > comes from "user(a)example.com". > Where is the right place to change this? We never defined this mail address anywhere. > Thank you very much! The setting you are looking for is `site_owner` in the `mailman` section of mailman.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Exception when rendering certain emails ([Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error...)

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/5/25 06:18, Matt Blissett via Mailman-users wrote: > > Downgrading mistune as suggested has fixed the problem, thanks! > > I've made a pull request for the Docker image: https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman/pull/754 As I noted in the PR, the issue is https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/529 which is fixed for the next HyperKitty release. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty archive: date format in thread overview of list does not honor DATETIME_FORMAT of settings.py

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/26/25 3:54 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: > Maybe this page (https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/config-web.html) can be modified to point to a more recent version of the django docs? I'll fix that. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Masking email addresses in the archives

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/26/25 9:47 AM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > I must have missed this if it was ever discussed, but is it possible to > mask the list members' email addresses in the archives? See https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/508 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Unable to update templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/27/25 23:09, Mark wrote: > > Where does Mailman core search for the file if the table entry is deleted? The search order is described in the docstring at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/utilities/i18n… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Threads by month dropdown

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/5/25 12:33, Sam Darwin via Mailman-users wrote: > > I believe it is not yet. Will make a note to investigate that. However, I think logging to /var/log/ is better than email, for system processes. Arguably it's not a system process, but rather a user cron. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: What is the best practice creating lists triggered by a another / second system?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/6/25 06:00, Christian Schneider wrote: > > On our old mailman-2.1 instance I used an ssh-tunnel and triggered the newlist-command with appropriate parameters. > This seems a little bit outdated to me - nowadays... ;-) Mahai has given a good response at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… but I don't think there is anything wrong with using an ssh-tunnel to execute a `mailman create` command. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: invite template customization

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/7/25 06:20, Christian via Mailman-users wrote: > Can someone please send me code for the invite template to bring in a brief > description of a mailing list to be subscribed to? Thank you in advance! The substitution you want is $description. How you want to use that in the template is up to you. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months

[MM3-users] Re: mail loops back to myself

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/9/25 16:00, Florian Sukup wrote: > > I don't want to receive any emails like ...(a)host.xxx.com . So I thought > removing host.xxx.com from $mydestination is a good idea. Is there any > other solution for that? Actually, you probably don't need host.xxx.com in mydestination if you don't want to accept mail for that domain. Also you shouldn't need lists.yyy.com either as transport_maps handles that. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Stalwart plugin

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/10/25 07:24, Jörg Schulz via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi all, > I'm just reviewing Stalwart as a many-in-one mailing system. Did anybody yet succeed in plugging mailman into stalwart (the incoming bit seems to be difficult)? See https://github.com/ewdurbin/stalwart-mailman -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months

[MM3-users] Re: mail loops back to myself

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/12/25 15:05, Florian Sukup wrote: > > I always restart mailman3 after changing main.cf I asked if you restarted/reloaded Postfix. I would assume that you had, but I'm at a loss to understand the issue, unless your /etc/postfix/master.cf is missing an uncommented entry for lmtp like ``` lmtp unix - - y - - lmtp ``` > if there is any interest, postfix_domains contains this line: > > lists.yyy.com lists.yyy.com That's as it should be. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Django-allauth compatibility (ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD and ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED)

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/16/25 15:26, Eggert Ehmke via Mailman-users wrote: > I have django-allauth 65.9.0 and still the same problem. mailman-web runjobs minutely throws it each minute, which is annoying. Do you have ``` ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'email', 'username'} ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS = ['email*', 'username*', 'password1*', 'password2*'] ``` in your django settings? What releases of HyperKitty, Postorius and Django-Mailman3 are you running? Current releases do not have any minutely jobs. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Block members from sending cc's and bcc's

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/23/25 13:07, Cathryn McGuire wrote: > cc.* (no space between cc and .*?). No. cc goes in the header box and only .* goes in the pattern box. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: redirecting -bounces replies

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/26/25 13:31, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > > Ah, I think that makes sense. So, add the alias domains here or through the CLI: Either way is good. > Oh, does the alias domain x.lists.hanc.info (etc) need to be resolvable in DNS, or will it be internal just to Mailman? No, it does not need to be resolvable in DNS. It is just internal to Postfix. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: redirecting -bounces replies

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/26/25 15:29, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > Well ... each list has 9 email addresses — the list address, the -bounces, the -confirm, the -join, the -leave, the -owner, the -request, the -subscribe and the -unsubscribe ... I think I'm around 4500 listservs right now..... 4500 lists is a lot, but not unheard of, but please don't call them listservs. See https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Caching problem with templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/28/25 20:22, Mark wrote: > > 3. What did work was removing the records in the file_cache table PLUS > removing the corresponding files in var/cache/*/*/* -- for example: > /opt/mailman/mm/var/cache/3a/2f/* > > This I was able to script in bash and cron to run every minute. A much simpler way to accomplish the same thing is to set cache_life: 1m in the [mailman] section of mailman.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Customize subjects

by Mark Sapiro

On July 14, 2025 10:55:56 AM EDT, "johannes.wolf--- via Mailman-users" <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >This text needs to be customized as we only have older users which need it in their native language (German). ;) If you set the list's preferred language to German, the subject should be translated. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

4 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman appears to send an email to a closed list, from a member who was removed from that list

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/18/25 11:07 AM, Andy Matthews wrote: > * I sent another mail FROM user-1 TO acme-closed, and received two emails. One showed what appears to be a successful send to the mailing list. What was the content of this message including all headers? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Relay Access Denied

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/22/25 11:11 AM, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > Mark, we would really like to use both lists.luc.edu and listservnew.luc.edu. Is that possible? I think you can do this and have it completely automated by following the setup at https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… and setting the alias domain of the listservnew.luc.edu to lists.luc.edu. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty error - not archiving

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/26/25 10:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > I had examined the message using 'mailman qfile', but did not see anything > obvious. > There were 3 files inside the spool/ directory. > I have just checked again and they are no longer there. If the files `disappeared`, they were eventually successfully delivered to HyperKitty. If you made no changes to mailman-hyperkitty.cfg, there was probably some transient network issue that caused the initial error. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: server/accounts/confirm-email/ lacks skinning (css)

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/25 18:06, Wikinaut wrote: > The newly installed mailman3 systems works, however the page accounts/confirm-email/ lacks the css. > > Can someone confirm my observation? Is there a fix? This is https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/86 fixed by https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/merge_requests/298 to be released with django-mailman3 1.3.16. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Held messages not delivered after approval

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/31/25 00:18, Stephan Krinetzki wrote: > > mailman members --regular --nomail enabled LISTSPEC > > Shows a lot of addresses - so all the members of the list don't recieve an mail, which explains the vanished mail. Next step: Enable the the mailing for them. `--nomail enabled` lists members with delivery enabled, not those with delivery disabled. See `mailman members --help` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Held messages not delivered after approval

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/1/25 01:22, Stephan Krinetzki wrote: > > Now to the files: > > mailman qfile /opt/mailman/var/queue/virgin/1736550035.6163204+472f81ece5e45a2651a4499bef418f611b43c619.pck.tmp ... > mailman qfile /opt/mailman/var/queue/shunt/1753912822.2651796+28eceef7e18eb70393377b88dc7117af8f9362a0.pck ... > mailman qfile /opt/mailman/var/queue/shunt/1753955094.900898+67bc76525412da66a7c76363f65f583989716305.pck What about -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 221708 Jul 30 13:16 1753874180.0845337+0cc7849043859a79dc3678a0d8b63c1c66df0c66.pck.tmp and -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 733425 Jul 31 00:00 1753912841.8847518+da55f8789ae41b75d19a02b595e3fd6d45983ade.pck.tmp from the out queue? And is the out queue being processed, i.e. messages in .pck files being delivered and the files being removed. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Migration of archives mailman2 to mailman3: python: can't open file '/opt/mailman/manage.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/10/25 12:40 PM, Wikinaut wrote: > Thank you very much. > > Shall I (or you?) fix that in the documentation, at least as third footnote? See the note in the first section at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months

[MM3-users] Re: How can i suppress sending moderation mail to all owners?

by Mark Sapiro

On August 11, 2025 9:48:00 AM GMT, "Markus Grandpré" <markus.grandpre(a)uni-konstanz.de> wrote: > >How can I configure the list settings the way that emails intended for moderators are delivered only to them, and not to the owners/administrators of the list? You can't. You could modify code to do this either unconditionally or per list, but there is currently no configuration to do this. L -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Website 404 error

by Mark Sapiro

On August 11, 2025 1:06:18 PM GMT, peter(a)pi4cc.nl wrote: > >There's something strange, and I can't find a source/solution. >When I first access the website domain.nl/mailman3, it's redirected to domain.nl/mailman/postorius/lists/, resulting in a 404 error (3 after mailman is missing). >When I accessed it a second time with the same link (domain.nl/mailman3), I was redirected to domain.nl/mailman3/postorius/lists and the welcome page appeared. See the post at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> or perhaps the entire thread. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Column 'starting_email_id' cannot be null

by Mark Sapiro

On August 18, 2025 9:35:13 AM GMT, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > >It looks like you did not run some migrations. >However, because this is packaged Mailman3, I am not sure I know how to do >that. Django-admin migrate Where Django-admin is whatever the name of the Django admin command is. However, the primary support resource for the Debian/Ubuntu package is Debian. See <https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

3 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: cron error - /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web runjobs daily

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/19/25 2:21 PM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now I need to find a way for me to subscribe my email address as an > ordinary user for starters. This is refusing. What are you doing to subscribe? What is the reason given for refusal? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: [Bug] Someone not a member of list is treated as member - strange

by Mark Sapiro

On August 23, 2025 7:47:38 AM PDT, Wikinaut <mail(a)tgries.de> wrote: >Unfortunately not! In that case, I suspect the issue is that address1 and address2 are both associated with the same user. Go to <https://your.domain/mailman3/users> and search for address1 and manage that user to see all the associated addresses. If address1 and address2 are the same user, this behavior is expected. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

3 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Dependency nntplib not found

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/5/25 08:42, qno-mailman--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > I googled and found that module nntplib is no more part of python since python-3.13. How can i fullfill (or avoid?) this dependency? Mailman does not support Python 3.13 until Mailman 3.3.11 (not yet released). I'm not sure if there are other issues with Mailman 3.3.10 and Python 3.13 (I think not), but you can fix the missing nntplib dependency by doing ``` pip install standard-nntplib ``` in your venv. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Text/Markdown/HTML

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/9/25 13:39, Sam Darwin via Mailman-users wrote: > > Imagine the user experience when reading/writing a github issue and/or getting an email about it. There is some formatting, even if limited, such as code blocks. Users appreciate that in technical code discussions, and so it's a benefit. They may think "Why can't I use italics?" Allow basic formatting. Remove colors, font sizing, for example. Both GitHub and GitLab use Markdown formatting. So does HyperKitty if you enable it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problems with SPOOFED_UNAUTH

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/11/25 10:03, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I don't think Mark was suggesting that would help with the > SPOOFED_UNAUTH problem. I read his mail as saying that it needs to be > fixed because it breaks anonymous_list. Exactly. Issue is now reported at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1241 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/22/25 20:45, Nirmal J via Mailman-users wrote: > Sir, > The status is enable only. But still It is not coming mail to archives. Hereby I am attaching the screen shots of the status. Kindly help me in this regard. There are many possibilities for what the problem might be. The starting point is Mailman's mailman.log. What are the messages in this log for the time of posts to the list. Also, the versions of Mailman core, HyperKitty and mailman-hyperkitty might be relevant. What are they? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/25/25 22:29, Nirmal J wrote: > I have ensured that the IP Address of list1.iitm.ac.in is in the Mailman_Archiver_From List in settings. But still not working. Please help. You may also need variuos localhost IPs such as '127.0.0.1', '::1', '::ffff:127.0.0.1' What archiving failures do you now see in mailman.log? Do not post the entire log, just the relevant message(s). -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/26/25 02:58, Nirmal J via Mailman-users wrote: > > # SECURITY WARNING: keep the secret key used in production secret! > SECRET_KEY = redacted > MAILMAN_REST_API_PASS = redacted > MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY = redacted Now that you have publicly exposed the above secrets, you should change them and also change the api_key: setting in mailman-hyperkitty.cfg to match the value in MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: CSV Export in Postorius only export email addresses but no names

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/28/25 14:45, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, > > I want to export the addresses of a mailing list in Postorius. At the > List Members section I found 'CSV Export'. However it only exports the > email addresses without the names. Is there a trick to make this happen? This is https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/625 fixed for the next release by https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/merge_requests/993 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/28/25 21:47, Nirmal J via Mailman-users wrote: > mailman.log :- > ... > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 594, in increment > raise MaxRetryError(_pool, url, error or ResponseError(cause)) > urllib3.exceptions.MaxRetryError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='list1.iitm.ac.in', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive (Caused by SSLError(SSLCertVerificationError(1, '[SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed: unable to get local issuer certificate (_ssl.c:992)'))) Can you successfully go to https://list1.iitm.ac.in/hyperkitty/api/ in a web browser or with wget or curl? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Auto discard after max_days_to_hold not working.

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/30/25 00:59, Hitashi mancho via Mailman-users wrote: > > As you have mentioned about implementation of "Auto discard after > max_days_to_hold" in a next release. How do I install that release? To install from the head of the GitLab branch pip install git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman.git -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/9/25 9:04 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > There's https://wiki.list.org/DOC/ > I%20installed%20Mailman%20from%20a%20package%20or%20I%20followed%20a%20HowTo%20document.%20Where%20do%20I%20go%20for%20help%3F but there might be a shortened link for that I'm unaware of. On any of the pages at https://wiki.list.org/ there is a TinyURL link in the left column which when clicked will add a message with a short link to the top of the page. In this case, that short link is https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/10/25 10:29 AM, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > > Postorius Version 1.3.13, > /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings.py: FILTER_VHOST = True , however, this > is set for the whole server and not for single domains/sites, right? Right. > In my case mail_host is the same as web_host so I shouldn't be touched > by that problem anyway. What do you get from the following database query SELECT * from django_mailman3_maildomain JOIN django_site ON site_id = django_site.id; -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/10/25 1:47 PM, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > > :/var/lib/mailman3/data# sqlite3 mailman.db > SQLite version 3.46.1 2024-08-13 09:16:08 > Enter ".help" for usage hints. > sqlite> SELECT * from django_mailman3_maildomain JOIN django_site ON > site_id = django_site.id; > Parse error: no such table: django_mailman3_maildomain > sqlite> Is there a second database? Something like mailmanweb.db. If so, use that one. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Unprocessed Bounce Mails from user with e-mailadresse with a "-" in it

by Mark Sapiro

On October 13, 2025 3:37:36 PM PDT, Wikinaut <mail(a)tgries.de> wrote: >I do not see how this library understands German "out of office until...." messages, perhaps Mark can say something to it. Many links in that repository are also broken. Flufl-bounce doesn't recognize any out of office messages in any language because they aren't non-delivery notices. What links in <https://gitlab.com/warsaw/flufl.bounce/> are broken? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 month, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Password reset/confirm email page formatting

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/22/25 08:09, Liam Reilly wrote: > Thanks Thomas, received. > > Interesting it looks the same as mine. > > The official page does not have this problem: https://lists.mailman3.org/accounts/password/reset/done/ Because lists.mailman3.org and mail.python.org run the GitLab heads. Several of these issues are fixed for the next release of django-mailman3. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/84 https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/85 https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/86 https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/87 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/22/25 11:35, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now I'm struggling with uwsgi.ini. the default file uses mailman for user and group but the directories were created using www-data for group and user. I got that part fixed but now when I try to start mailmanweb, I get this error: > > !!! UNABLE to load uWSGI plugin: ./python3_plugin.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory https://askubuntu.com/questions/286699/uwsgi-with-python3-how-to-get-the-pl… may help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/24/25 10:19, Dennis Putnam via Mailman-users wrote: > > Do I need to specify a path somewhere? Sort of. What is the shebang line in /opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/gunicorn? It should be #!/opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/python I.e., it should point to the Python in your venv. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/26/25 08:31, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Sadly it is correct: > > #!/opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 > > $ ls -l /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman 16 Oct 18 16:32 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 -> /usr/bin/python3 Again, what is the content of /etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/25 11:55, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now when I try to access it (http://localhost/mailman) I get a 404 error. The correct url is http://localhost/mailman3 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Archive not working - Reg.

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 03:22, nirmal--- via Mailman-users wrote: > After sending mail to a list, it is not reflecting back in Hyperkitty archive. Kindly help me in this regard. Are there files in Mailman's var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ direrctory? What's in Mailman's var/logs/mailman.log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 08:39, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Mark: That is what I used. Sorry, I missed the 3 key. What's in your web server config to proxy Mailman requests? Whats in your venv's site-packages/mailman_web/urls.py? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Disable automatic bouncing globally?

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 09:25, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > Thanks as always Mark. Do I need to restart any services after I make that change? No. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On October 28, 2025 10:33:50 AM PDT, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >It should be in sites-enabled/ or conf-enabled/. Actually sites-enabled/mailman.conf should be a symlink to sites available/mailmen.conf. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 14:41, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > That should be added to the docs. In any case adding that symlink didn't help. What's in Apache's error.log? The doc assumes you will be adding to an existing *.conf for the site. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/29/25 10:02, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I moved the parameters into 000-default.conf which already exists. That didn't help either. The only other existing file is default-ssl.conf which doesn't seem like the appropriate place to me. Nothing interesting showed up in the error log: It may not be named error.log. look at all the relevant *error.log files in /var/log/apache2. You are looking for lines matching the pattern ` not (exist:|found) `. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: "Something went wrong | Mailman REST API not available. Please restart Mailman core.

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/29/25 15:40, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > Ah, thanks for the reply, Mark. Forgot to include Traceback: > > Traceback (most recent call last): ... Thanks. These are not the normal 'core isn't running' tracebacks which are `connection refused`. These seem to say that core is dropping the connection without a response. What's in mailman.log from these times? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/30/25 10:18, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > When I set up virtual host for 443, what should I set document root to? I currently have /var/www/html. /var/www/html is OK. It only matters for requests that don't match ProxyPass directives. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/30/25 08:26, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > The only files are access.log and error.log. Access.log contains as expected: > > 2600:1700:5cac:4600:5398:3572:2b43:6b41 - - [30/Oct/2025:09:58:57 -0400] "GET /mailman3 HTTP/1.1" 40 > 4 485 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:144.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/144.0" What about /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/error.log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: "Something went wrong | Mailman REST API not available. Please restart Mailman core.

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/30/25 08:05, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > > Good question ... Looks like it is 3.3.1 — so, wow — 5 years? Guess I will be updating these containers. Never done that before. Any advice? If you initially installed these https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/docker.html#mailman-3-in-docker…, see https://asynchronous.in/docker-mailman/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 10:13, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > See post from 10/28 at 5:25. If you want to refer to a prior post, it is much better to refer to it with a link to the archive, in this case https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 09:17, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > mm/var not var. Confusing. Anyway I found the logs. Here is the error.log > > [2025-10-31 15:12:04 +0000] [174276] [WARNING] Invalid request from ip=127.0.0.1: Invalid HTTP request line: 'ÿ > ôÿý\x06\x04' > > That looks like something is garbled up. Try setting loglevel = 'debug' in your gunicorn.conf and restarting gunicorn. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 12:19, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't think I understand. Are you saying the import (and the other commands) should be this: > > python mailman-web hyperkitty_import -l foo-list(a)example.com $var_prefix/archives/private/foo-list.mbox/foo-list.mbox With your venv active the command is just `mailman-web` not `python mailman-web` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/2/25 07:57, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Got it. Something else that needs to be added as an Ubuntu note. The following need to be enabled: > > sudo a2enmod proxy proxy_http proxy_balancer lbmethod_byrequests Actually, of the above, only proxy and proxy_http are enabled on the working systems I support. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/2/25 06:45, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > That seems to have worked. Thanks. Shouldn't that be documented as well? It (the name of the Django admin command) is documented in the Note in the first section of the top level doc at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web Cleaning Up a Few Issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/4/25 11:55, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I installed mailman-web 0.0.10 and that cleared up half the problem. The django-admin problem still exists. Do I need to create the directory /var/run/mailman3-web or should there be a different path specified somewhere? Did you see https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… Did you do the suggested grep? What does it find? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web Cleaning Up a Few Issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/25 09:47, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Thanks. I just decided to send the cron job output to /dev/null. I think you need to find the cause of those errors rather than ignoring them and potentially more serious ones. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: update problems in virtualenv

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/6/25 05:55, Lichtinger, Bernhard wrote: > > Is it safe to use latest from gitlab for production usage? Yes. Officially, we say it's beta quality, but we run it in production for this list and for hundreds of lists on mail.python.org. > With python-3.13 in Debian stable it would be nice if we could get a new relase of mailman3 with all the fixes for python-3.13. We know, but the release manager is an unpaid volunteer with a day job. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web Cleaning Up a Few Issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/6/25 08:27, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > When I said mailman3 I did not mean it was installed outside of venv. My bad. Sorry. You should still do sudo apt list mailman3 mailman3-web mailman3-full mailman3-doc to see if any of those packages is installed. I don't know how the /etc/cron.d/mailman3-web crontab would have been created except by installation of one of those packages. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/7/25 08:47, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Now that I THINK all the other issues are resolved I can get back to this. I can't answer your questions. I can't explain it unless django came already already installed with Ubuntu server.There is 'python3-django' installed outside of the venv. Can I simply remove it? Yes, you can remove it. I expect it got there as a dependency of mailman3-web which it appears was at some time installed and then removed but not purged. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/7/25 10:11, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't know what package installed that but I'm guessing came with python3. I don't think so it would not be installed as part of python3 or python3-dev. There are multiple things in these threads that strongly suggest that at some point `apt install mailman3-web` was done. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 09:06, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Arrrgggggg!!!! This is so frustrating: > > $ mailman create --domain --owner uuuuu(a)dddddddd.net lllllllllllll(a)dddddddd.net --domain is the default and --owner is not necessary as the owner(s) will be imported from the MM 2.1 list. > Error: List already exists: lllllllllllll(a)dddddddd.net And what does `mailman info` show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 09:24, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I am assuming the 's' is a typo as there is no table mailinglists. Yes, sorry. > mysql> select list_name from mailinglist; > Empty set (0.00 sec) > > $ ls -l /opt/mailman/mm/var/lists > total 0 I'm still waiting for a response to https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 13:11, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I did the create and it says it was created. I guess that means I blew it away correctly. However, it still does not show up in the db: What does `mailman info` now show for the database? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Xapian alternatives

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/10/25 21:15, Mark Labeste via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi Mark, Do you have documentation how to use Xapian in MM3? https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setting-up-full… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/25 10:18, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > This wouldn't have anything to do with the fact I am using a self signed certificate, would it? It could, but I think only if when you POST the login your browser complains about the certificate and you have to OK it before it posts the request. Such a scenario might lose the cookie. Otherwise, I don't think so. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Postfix Hooks and Fetchmail

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/14/25 11:46, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I think I may have the aliases wrong based on what fetchmail is doing. Can I send you a PM with the unsanitized fetchmail info? Yes. Also include the contents of the /opt/mailman/var/data/postfix_* files. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 weeks, 1 day

[MM3-users] Re: is anyone here?

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/20/25 8:38 AM, alain williams wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 01:52:09PM +0000, James Greig wrote: > > 👋 And, if you go to https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/ you'll see this list is quite active. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 weeks, 1 day

[MM3-users] Re: Finding all held messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/28/25 5:43 PM, Peter Chubb via Mailman-users wrote: > > Hi Folks, > Is there a way from the Web UI to find all lists with held > messages? In the next release of Postorius The count of members, held messages and held subscription requests is displayed in the list overview page, but until then, No. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html#news-1-3-14 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Reset digest number and volume

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/26/19 3:08 AM, andrew.bernard(a)gmail.com wrote: > How to do this? After lots of testing on my pre-release beta testing list, I want the first production digest to be reset toVolume 1, Number 1. You can do this in `mailman shell` by setting the list's `volume` and `next_digest_number` to 1. E.g., $ ./mailman shell -l list(a)example.com Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell The variable 'm' is the list(a)example.com mailing list >>> m.volume = 1 >>> m.next_digest_number = 1 >>> commit() -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Different Mail Domain Cause Key Error

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/21/20 12:49 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > When I try to access Postorius using list.domain.com I get a "An error occurred while processing your request." message and the logs shows the dreaded: > > ``` > 'Internal Server Error: /mailman3/lists/ > > KeyError at /mailman3/lists/ > 'file' This is not the error. The KeyError ... 'file' exception is a Django logging exception. It is not the underlying error. There should be more in the log indicating what the real problem is. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: hooking up mailman and sendmail

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/14/21 12:58 AM, John Covici wrote: > Hi. So, I have sendmail as my mta and I want mailman to use it. So > far, I have a local delivery agent able to send on port 8024. So, > what do I have to tell mailman to use sendmail and listen on port 8024 > and to send on port 25? Nothing. By default, Mailman's LMTP runner (server) listens for incoming mail via LMTP on localhost port 8024 and Mailman sends outgoing mail via SMTP to localhost port 25. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installing Mailman for the first time

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/24/23 16:43, comprepair_jimberg--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I am running Debian 11 Server and wanting to install Mailman 3 > > Will this work for what I am trying to do? > > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Howto_Install_Mailman3_On_Debian10 Yes, but <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html> is our current recommendation. > If not is there a shorter list of steps to accomplish what I am trying to do? The above may not be shorter. There are a lot of steps no matter how you do it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: need help to migrate from Mailman2 to Mailman3 (french if possible)

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/22/24 10:00, Pascal Léval via Mailman-users wrote: > what you have written below worked fine, thanks ! > > but now, I still have the error sending an email : > Erreur : 550 5.1.1 <formule(a)listes.leval.info>: Recipient address > rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table > I think it's a problem with Postfix, what do you think ? Yes it is a problem with your postfix configuration. What is the output from `postconf -n` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Deleting A List

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/2/24 03:42, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have deleted a list (list(a)nog.ke) - list_id = list.nog.ke. > I can see from Django Admin UI that the archives are still intact. > I created a new list (list(a)lists.nog.ke) - list_id = list.lists.nog.ke > Is there a way to move the archives from the old list to the new list? Change the `name` and `list_id` in the list's entry in the `hyperkitty_mailinglist` table in the database. If there is already an entry there for the new list, delete it -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: 3rd Party Account is not working

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/21 8:20 PM, Aaron Klein wrote: > This is my local_settings.py. The social account icons are not deleted. you need to ensure that they are deleted from the Dgango web admin interface under Social Accounts › Social applications > 2. I don't find the Social Accounts › Social applications. where I have to search? It is in the Django web UI. Assuming you have something like url(r'^django/', admin.site.urls), in your urls.py, not commented, it wuoul be a url like https://example.com/admin/socialaccount/socialapp/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Centralizing logging

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/29/21 4:51 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > However, there is this process that *forced* me to create > usr/local/mailman/*logs/mailmansuite.log > *as opposed to it just writing to var/logs/ path above > > Is there a way to make it write its log $var_dir ? This is Django's log. Django knows nothing about mailman.cfg which is for core only. You can set the path in your Django settings. See LOGGING['handlers']['file']['filename'] I deal with this by creating a symlink like /usr/local/mailman/logs -> /usr/local/mailman/var/logs -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius web issues after upgrading mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/13/21 8:23 AM, Tibor Molnar wrote: > > The postorius web page is working ok for me, I'm only having issues with the hyperkitty pages. I have lookaed at the file you suggested me to download but I already have that in the correct place. What does the alias for /static/ in your web server point to? What does diff -r dir1 dir2 show where dir1 is the hyperkitty subdirectory in the above directory and dir2 is the hyperkitty/static/hyperkitty in your Mailman installation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Newbie question 2: Rewriting issue for bounced emails

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/25/21 12:42 PM, William Oliver wrote: > > Is there a "make-the-freaking-virtual- map-database" command in > mailman3, or is this postfix thing? Should I just touch the thing and > create an empty file? I'm a little scared to... The error message > makes me think that it should be populated with something... Did you add an Alias Domain (different from the Mail Host domain) to the entry for your domain? This is what triggers the creation of postfix_vmap. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 suddenly stopped working after routine package upgrade with "apt update" and "apt upgrade".

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/5/22 11:26 AM, gordon(a)dickens.com wrote: > I solved my own problem and it was a stale master lock. I deleted all files in the locks directory that begin with master.lck as follows: "rm /var/lib/mailman3/locks/master.lck*" Actually, if Mailman core is not running, there should be no files in /var/lib/mailman3/locks/ and it is safe to remove any that exist. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Gunicorn problem?

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/14/22 09:24, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > 2. I am a little lost on how one installation instance can be used to > handle TWO different domains - domain1 and domain2, both using SSL. > > I have https://lists.site1/mailman3 already running. I want to use the same > instance of MM3 to also handle https://lists.site/ and the issue of the SSL > certificates is making my head spin :) You need to get a certificate valid for both domains. See https://letsencrypt.org/docs/faq/#can-i-get-a-certificate-for-multiple-doma… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 on virtual domains

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/6/23 23:27, Lars Bjørndal wrote: > > Thank you. One of my other domains is a virtual domain. According to https://wiki.list.org/DEV/LMTP%20process I tried to add hash:/opt/mailman3/mm//var/data/postfix_lmtp to virtual_alias_maps in Postfix's main.cf. When sending to testliste(a)rokaden.no, I get back an Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender message with <"lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024"@dalen.lamasti.net> (expanded from <testliste(a)rokaden.no>): unknown user: "lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024" > > What's my problem here? See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: configuring postfix local recipient table

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/2/25 01:44, Alexander Inzinger-Zrock via Mailman-users wrote: > > we changed that during prior conversation [1] to make postmap command > available to user 'mailman' > > > from > configuration: python:mailman.config.postfix > > to > configuration: /etc/mailman3/postfix.cfg > > and contents are > > " > postmap_command: /usr/sbin/postmap > postmap_command: /usr/sbin/postmap > > " This needs more than that. it needs a [postfix] section header and a definition for transport_file_type. E.g. ``` [postfix] transport_file_type: hash postmap_command: /usr/sbin/postmap ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: required cron entries?

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/1/21 12:37 AM, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Mark Sapiro (mark(a)msapiro.net) [201231 19:28]: >> On 12/31/20 2:49 AM, Andreas Barth wrote: >>> Looking in the source code, there is a ./cron/crontab.in.in however >>> references to scripts in port_me/ directory. >> >> That's all old Mailman 2.1 stuff. ignore it. > > Can we replace that by a mailman3 cron tab? (I'm happy to write that > as merge request if useful, but I assume that should be done rather by > opening a bug report and using gitlabs features and not inline per > mail) Yes, the ideal workflow is to open an issue on GitLab and then open a merge request to fix it. However, I don't think we need a sample crontab as we have <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/config-core.html#configuring-cron-jobs> which should be enough. I think the real solution is to just remove the mailman/cron directory and at least some of the mailman/port_me/ files. The cron/crontab.in.in file is just a distraction. For the port_me files, we have: checkdbs.py - this function is handled by `mailman notify` disabled.py - handled by core's bounce processing show_config.py - handled by `mailman conf` and these for which no MM 3 equivalent exists and which could be helpful in implementing a corresponding `mailman` subcommand: config_list.py export.py find_member.py -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Auth question

by Mark Sapiro

On 04/09/2017 12:23 PM, David Krantz wrote: > > Now everything works for me except > the archiver. There I get strange errors where it requires > authentication. I _have_ set MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY (in production.py) > and api_key in mailman_hyperkitty.conf to the same value within single > quotes. This is probably something extremely silly that my jetlagged > brain cannot see. In mailman_hyperkitty.conf, the key isn't quoted. I.e., if in production.py or wherever, you have set MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY = 'arch_secret' in mailman_hyperkitty.conf you set [general] ... api_key: arch_secret No quotes around the api_key value. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/21/2017 02:05 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > > (env2) [mailman@localhost mailman-suite_project]$ python2 manage.py > runserver > Performing system checks... > > System check identified no issues (0 silenced). > July 21, 2017 - 20:50:29 > Django version 1.11.3, using settings 'settings' > Starting development server at http://127.0.0.1:8000/ > Quit the server with CONTROL-C. And did you try to go to http://127.0.0.1:8000/ or http://localhost:8000/ from a browser on that machine? If you're truing to access it from another machine, you need to do something like python2 manage.py runserver 192.168.1.42:8000 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Help request, almost got it going, but ....

by Mark Sapiro

On 09/01/2017 02:33 PM, Claus-Justus Heine via Mailman-users wrote: > > Seemingly, at some point in the deep dungeons of the source code the > "Acceptable aliases" Text-Box is not interpreted correctly. > > Specifically, at the start it contains the string > > [] See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/issues/58>. In order to set things on this page, you need to clear the Acceptable aliases box before submitting changes. You can't actually set Acceptable aliases via Postorius until this is fixed. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Weird recipient

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/5/19 3:10 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Both before and after upgrading tonight, my lists send out bizarre recipients that I cannot understand. It usually happens at the end of the distribution to other valid recipients. > > Sep 5 10:05:54 www postfix/smtp[3344]: A5DF9FA14E: to=<0101016d00e302ec-4db56da5-fd69-4b5e-9327-292c55e13ea8-000000(a)us-west-2.amazonses.com>, relay=email-smtp.us-west-2.amazonaws.com[52.36.120.66]:587, delay=2.4, delays=0/0/2.2/0.22, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host email-smtp.us-west-2.amazonaws.com[52.36.120.66] said: 501 Invalid MAIL FROM address provided (in reply to MAIL FROM command)) What are the other mail log entries for queue id A5DF9FA14E ? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: email command join - problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/28/21 5:34 AM, sky.x--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > @Peter, hmm interesting, im used Kopano webmail and message format is set to plain/text, also when i open bcc copy of raw message it looks as plain/text. I will test another client at the night hours. The QP encoding probably occurs because you have non-ascii in the message body - perhaps in a signature? If you view the raw message source of the Bcc, what do you see? In particular is there a ``` Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ``` header? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Splitting hosts: mta&core vs postorius

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/18/24 05:36, samuel.d.darwin(a)gmail.com wrote: > > However our latest plan as of this moment is to revert back to a one-server implementation. mailman-core and mailman-web will be on the same machine. Thus, the enhancement is not critical. It still seems "theoretically" useful to implement the fix, unless the documentation states "it is recommended that core and web should be on the same machine" or similar. See the fourth paragraph at https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty stuck files

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/10/24 6:55 AM, zoltan(a)circle-interactive.co.uk wrote: > > Can this maybe be added to the installation guide? > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html That guide is for an installation using PostgreSQL. We do mention the OPTIONS setting for MySQL in multiple places. E.g., https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite/-/blame/master/mailman-suite_proje… https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/blob/master/example_project/setting… https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-web/-/blame/master/mailman_web/settings/… However, I just added a comment to https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#initial-configu… about this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: No e-mail distribution after import of archive

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/24 23:33, Markus Grandpré wrote: > Dear Mr. Sapiro, > > on our test system we noticed the problem that after importing a mailing > list archive from a Mailman system v2.1 into a Mailman system v3.3.8, > e-mails are no longer distributed via this mailing list. E-mails that > are written to the list find their way into the archive, but they are > not sent to any member of the list. > > Before the archive was imported, writing an e-mail to the list and > distributing this e-mail via the list was not a problem. Unfortunately, > we cannot find any indication of this issue in the log of the mailman > system v3.3.8. Please help us to further analyze and solve this problem, > as we are planning to import 188 archives into our new productive > mailman system v3.3.8 during the next months. Nothing in HyperKitty should affect Mail delivery from the list. The symptom you see could result in a file in Mailman's mailman/templates/lists/<THIS.LISTS.ID>/<LC>/ directory not being readable by the Mailman user. Check ownership and permissions on everything in var/templates/ See the latter part of the thread at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… Note that if this is the issue, something other than hyperkitty_import did it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Changing display name with "mailman withlist"

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/5/17 12:29 AM, Mark Ziranski wrote: > > When executing the script as written in the manual, I get the following error: > > (venv-3.5) [root@localhost mailman]# mailman withlist -r change example(a)example.org 'new display name' > usage: mailman [-h] [-v] [-C CONFIG] > {help,aliases,conf,create,digests,import21,info,inject,lists,members,qfile,remove,reopen,restart,shell,start,status,stop,unshunt,version,withlist} > ... > mailman: error: unrecognized arguments: new display name This is a known bug <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/319>. I will work on a fix. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: footer message

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/28/2018 06:46 PM, Abhijith PA via Mailman-users wrote: > Hello. > > Is there any way to enable footer for some lists at the same time > disable for lists. I maintain an mailman3 instance and some of the lists > in it need the footer message well some not. You can make list specific templates for list:member:regular:footer and/or list:member:digest:footer. If the template is empty, no footer will be added. See <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/templates.ht…> and <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/handlers/docs/decorate…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Race condition when mass subscribing same email addresses to two lists?

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/21 5:50 PM, Alan So wrote: > Thanks a lot. Just curious whether it is a new issue of 3.3.5 or just an old issue that rarely happen practically. We have been using 3.2 for some time and we are evaluating whether we should go for an upgrade now to resolve some other issues. It is not a new issue. It has always been there. It's easy enough to avoid, just don't run parallel mass subscribes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: using SSH/TLS with external MTA

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/24 04:03, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > I am following this thread out of curiosity. > So I added the same lines to my /opt/mailman3/settings.py - on a virtualenv > install of the latest MM3 code.It's my test VM. > After adding the lines and restarting mailmanweb, I then entered the > virtualenv and did 'mailman-web createsuperuser' which completed > successfully, but NO MAIL! And why do you think `mailman-web createsuperuser` results in mail being sent? (It doesn't) -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: list's RSS feed has wrong URLs (base path instead of subdomain)

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/27/25 10:48, Simone via Mailman-users wrote: > > I have set this up and it's working well so far, but today I noticed that links in list's RSS feed point to https://mydomain.tld, while mailman is running on https://lists.mydomain.tld. > > I wouldn't know how to fix this.. any hints? I'm not seeing this in, e.g., output from https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/feed/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: hyperkitty failed to create a thread

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/11/19 9:47 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > What could be a reason of HyperKitty failing to create a thread from > chained emails? > > For example, see "RECENTLY ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS" on page > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/ > > "Openvpn and Network mapping" discussion displayed as five threads instead > of only one... > > Any ideas how to improve HyperKitty ability to detect threaded messages? Thanks for the report. The MR at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/merge_requests/125> will fix this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Core, Hyperkitty and Postorius releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/14/21 5:02 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:52 PM Jeff Steele <jeff(a)steele.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> /bin/sh: sass: Permission denied* >> >> >> >> Did you check the permissions on your sass binary? >> > > My mailman installed in /opt/mailman/mm > > find /opt/mailman/ -type f -name sass > > yielded nothing! Try `which sass` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 generates long lines?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/23/21 7:45 AM, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Thanks Mark, that's what I did. After the restart I needed to activate > it on a per-list basis. > > However, I'd prefer to be able to do that on global basis. Not a big > issue, but still thought it worth asking. You can do it with a `mailman shell` script. Something like ``` >>> for mlist in getUtility(IListManager).mailing_lists: ... for archiver in IListArchiverSet(mlist).archivers: ... if archiver.name == 'prototype': ... archiver.is_enabled = True ... >>> commit() ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Setup Question: Disk-Layout (Migrating from Mailman 2.1)

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/17/25 3:18 AM, christian.schneider(a)tu-dortmund.de wrote: > > But I could find no information about the location where hyperkitty stores the archives on an Ubuntu-/Linux-system. > I assume the archives are stored underneath "/var/..." this is only a guess. > But is this guess right? As answered in other replies, HyperKitty stores its archives in tables in the configured database. However, if the prototype archiver is enabled, those archives are stored in maildir format in Mailman's var/archives/prototype/ directory. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 14:28, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > True. But putting a file inside sites-enabled/ or conf-enabled/ still > achieves the same result. > Apache's a2ensite/a2enmod will create the symlinks in the *-enabled/ > subdirs, but putting files in there, with the right extensions still does > it. Yes it works, but it also breaks a2(en|dis)(site|mod|conf) functionality for that site/mod/conf. Configurations should always be in a *-available/ directory with symlinks in the corresponding *-enabled/ directory so that the tools work as advertised. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Fwd: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /archives/search

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/27/23 05:53, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 11:48 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >> >> Note that when following >> https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html you create >> /etc/mailman3/settings.py and it contains >> ``` >> from mailman_web.settings.base import * >> from mailman_web.settings.mailman import * >> ``` >> to establish a base set of settings that can be augmented or overridden >> in /etc/mailman3/settings.py. mailman_web.settings.mailman in turn contains >> ``` >> HAYSTACK_CONNECTIONS = { >> 'default': { >> 'ENGINE': 'haystack.backends.whoosh_backend.WhooshEngine', >> 'PATH': "fulltext_index", >> ``` >> which is a relative path for fulltext_index and may need to be set to an >> absolute path. >> > > Mi Mark, > > I have read this page - > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html and further - > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#initial-config > - without clicking any external links. > I still don't see the HAYSTACK_CONNECTIONS in the settings.py included on > that page. > I am missing something obvious, no? Please reread what I wrote above. HAYSTACK_CONNECTIONS is not in the suggested settings.py but it is in mailman_web.settings.mailman and is imported by the suggested settings.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 09/23/2017 07:36 AM, David Krantz wrote: > Still two problems: > > 1. I do not know how to force a cache invalidation on a template. So > only way to change is to set a new name on the file and change the uri > there. Unpractical. No, restarts do not work. Have you tried restarting/reloading whatever dbm (MySQL, PostgreSQL, ?) you are using? > 2. the $user_delivered_to and $user_email do not expand for some > reason. Known problem? These require that the list delivery be personalized. See <http://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/runners/docs/outgoing.h…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: localhost[::1] said: 550 Requested action not, taken: mailbox unavailable

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/26/2017 03:54 PM, Bjoern Franke wrote: > Hi, > > I created & imported a bunch of 2.1 lists and for one of the lists mm3 > replies mailbox unavailable to postfix. > > I have no clue why this happens because the other lists work. We need more information. What are the postfix log messages associated with the error? Is the list's domain the same as the working ones? Are there entries for the list in Mailman's var/data/postfix_lmtp? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/20 11:48 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > Though you are for sure that the current versions as I am claiming the > above one is perfectly without any issue, please also suggest what would be > the best previous version which definitely does not have that issue because > I even checked out the immediate previous version of mailmanclient but > still I am getting the same error. Follow this document <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#virtualenv-inst…> and install with pip. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: I need professional help to get virtualenv Mailman3 installation running

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/8/21 2:02 PM, John Seifarth via Mailman-users wrote: > > But when I try to connect via the Web, I get the message "Server error An error occurred while processing your request.” in my browser. No other clues. I’m completely stuck, and I need help to conclude this rapidly, the client really needs the new service up and running ASAP. What's in /opt/mailman/web/logs/mailmanweb.log, /opt/mailman/web/logs/uwsgi*.log and also maybe Apache's error log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius password resets

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/20 9:24 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> On 10/14/20 11:11 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > >>> I am having an issue with our system where password resets are giving the users an email with a http://localhost:8000 URL. I have made sure settings in settings_local.py (and even settings.py) are as follows: >>> >>> POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL = 'https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org' > >> This is not relevant. > > Does it need resetting back to http://localhost:8000? Not if it works. Most likely either one is OK, but localhost:8000 avoids a DNS lookup an proxying through the web server. >>> However emails are still coming through with the wrong URL. > >> I'm not sure offhand, but it's either domains in Postorius or sites in the django admin UI. > > I've checked both and cannot see any errors (I just have the one site lists.hodgsonfamily.org) and nothing is empty which seems as though it needs filling in. What's in `sites` and what's in `Mail domains` in the django admin UI and what's in Web Host in the Postorius domains view - in particular, if you have Postorius 1.3.3, what's the SITE_ID, and what's SITE_ID in settings(_local).py. Also, when you go to the archive UI, whats the domain at the top left of the pages. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Bounces

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/05/2017 01:16 PM, David Krantz wrote: > > How do I config mailman 3.1x to send any unrecognized bounces to e.g. > the list owner? Now they just end up in the bounces table but I would > like to see the entire message in this case. The short answer is you can't. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/343>. The bottom line is we aren't doing anything with bounces other than storing them. We need to fix that, and we will (It's targeted for 3.2). If you could help with code, that would be great. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Broken web interface Ubuntu 20.04

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/30/21 2:30 PM, tim(a)thecutts.org wrote: > > When I look at the mailman-web-logs, the urls that postorious puts into the page don't honour the POSTORIOUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL variable in the mailman-web.py file any more. I'm not saying there isn't an issue in Postorius, but I don't think it has anything to do with POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL which is only used for templates and has nothing to do with the rendering of the list pages and shouldn't contain anything beyond the host and port in any case. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Messages not going to held queue

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/8/22 10:08, Mail Person wrote: > I'm currently running 3.3.5 But your traceback says: ``` File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/uid.py", line 155, in _next_unpredictable_id x = random.random() + right_now % 1.0 + time.clock() % 1.0 AttributeError: module 'time' has no attribute 'clock' ``` and that line was changed to ``` x = random.random() + right_now % 1.0 + time.process_time() % 1.0 ``` by https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/552 in Mailman 3.3.0 so the traceback you report at `https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message/EC2DTCULSVCRR2ZPWVZXZU67KX3MZ46P/` was produced by Mailman < 3.3.0. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Permissions issue after upgrade of virtualenv

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/9/23 11:25, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Thu Mar 09 22:17:59.313459 2023] [core:error] [pid 15655] (13)Permission > denied: [client 197.232.xx.xx:26574] AH00035: access to / denied > (filesystem path '/opt/mailman/mm') because search permissions are missing > on a component of the path, referer: https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > I did not change Apache config and I made sure that /opt/mailman is all > owned by mailman:mailman. > > What am I missing? X permission on one or more of /opt, /opt/mailman, /opt/mailman/mm -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 12:14, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > As an aside, mailmanweb will not start with gunicorn named gunicorn.conf. It only works if it is named gunicorn.py. I don't know if that is an Ubuntu thing but it probably needs to be documented. For me it issues a warning but starts up just fine. I don't know what's wrong with your installation, but it seems to have serious issues compared to one which I created by following the doc at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Email commands

by Mark Sapiro

On 09/22/2016 02:34 AM, Jean-Luc Wasmer wrote: > Hi, > > I wasn't able to find documentation about the currently support email > commands for Mailman 3. Documentation can be found by sending a 'help' command to the -request address. More detail on a specific command can be obtained via, e.g., 'help subscribe'. > The following command doesn't work for me (mailman bundler 3.0.0): > subscribe address=$<$ADDRESS$>$ Currently, the only option is [digest=<no|mime|plain>] > Will this be supported later on? Submit a request at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/25/2017 12:18 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > I put this config in mailman.cfg: > > To configure Core to use Postfix, add the following configuration to your > mailman.cfg configuration, be sure to replace mail.example.com with your > email domain: > > [mta] > incoming: mailman.mta.postfix.LMTP > outgoing: mailman.mta.deliver.deliver > lmtp_host: mail.example.com > lmtp_port: 8024 > smtp_host: mail.example.com > smtp_port: 25 > > > is this correct?? Probably it should be lmtp_host: 127.0.0.1 and smtp_host: localhost but see mailman/config/schema.cfg for the defaults and more docs. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/10/25 1:37 AM, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > > The difference I am talking about is that lists.example1.com/postorius/ > lists shows only its mailing lists while lists.example2.com/postorius/ > lists shows all mailing lists on the server (ie. also mailing lists of > example1.com) What is your Postorius version? Whether Postorius displays all lists or only those matching the current host is controlled by the FILTER_VHOST setting. There was an issue with this prior to Postorius 1.3.3. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/394 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Unknown attribute: max_message_size

by Mark Sapiro

On 06/21/2018 03:29 AM, Alexander Klotz wrote: > Hi, > > unfortunately we still have problems configuring a list so that it > allows a message size larger than 40 KB. Neither the workaround > described here: > https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/commit/f86ab7fb5cc6edeb23c43336b677c24… > (required was already set to false) nor this docker setup by yova > https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/issues/246 worked. Are there any > other options we could try? Use 'mailman shell'. I.e. 'mailman shell -l listname@domain' and set m.max_message_size = N where N is the number of KB you want. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: New releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/8/20 1:01 PM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > I have Postorius verson 1.3.3 but I still see horizontal tabs not vertical > menus. > > Could you elaborate more on this? The first row of horizontal tabs is unchanged, but the `Settings` tab used to have a second horizontal row and now has a vertical list on the left. After you upgraded did you run these django-admin commands? ``` django-admin collectstatic --clear --noinput --verbosity 0 django-admin compress django-admin compilemessages django-admin migrate ``` These 4 commands should be run after every update to Postorius, HyperKitty or django_mainlman3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Issues with cross posted emails after upgrading to mailman 3.3.6

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/21 2:07 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Are we guaranteed to get a separate LMTP delivery for each list? That > is, if the MTA receives 2 RCPT TOs to lists for one transaction, won't > it do the same in LMTP when it sends forwards the message to Mailman? It doesn't matter. The LMTP runner makes a separate `in` queue entry for each recipient list, thus these are processed as separate messages regardless of how they arrived. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: new list not working

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/9/23 14:32, Christian via Mailman-users wrote: > When I ran > > mailman members -r -n enabled redlatinleg(a)lists.ccalternatives.org > > I did receive a list of subscribers for the new list I created, not just the > owner or moderator. > > Upon closer examination, another of my longtime working lists is also not > working. Similar behavior as the new list I created in that I see the > message has been archived, but not distributed to the subscribers. What do your MTA logs show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: NGINX reports 502 after fresh install

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/28/23 13:19, Mailman wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm working my way through the recommended installation in a Python virtual environment. > > I seem to have the components installed and working but when I try to access the web interface I receive an error 502 from the web server. > > I'm assuming I've misconfigured something in Nginx. Have you configured nginx per <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#nginx-configura…>? Is your wsgi server (uWSGI or Gunicorn) running and listening on port 8000? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Archive date/time vs elapsed time

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/26/23 11:41 PM, Mark wrote: > > No, I don't see it on the MM users' archive. > The archive where I'm seeing it is HyperKitty version 1.3.4 on a Debian > packaged MM 3.3.3 > The problem lay therein? I don't know if this is a change since 1.3.4 or an issue with the Debian package. The latest Debian stable (bookworm) has more up to date packages if you can upgrade. In any case, this does not seem to be an issue in current HyperKitty. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hiding an ML from a site

by Mark Sapiro

On February 6, 2024 7:45:14 AM PST, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >I had this set to True in settings_local.py, but False in settings.py. >So it seems to not make a difference in my setup. In a standard setup, anything set in settings_local.py overrides any corresponding setting in settings.py. That said, FILTER_VHOSTS is not perfect. It only works for Postorius if the separate web hosts also have different mail hosts. See lines 1051 et seq at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/blob/master/src/postorius/views/list…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: locked files problem after reboot

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/23/19 5:36 AM, mailman3(a)malevil.cc wrote: > hey, I have got a problem with flufl.lock in mailman3. When my server is rebooted, locked files seems to stay and cause errors so mailman3 core wont start (it is started automatically by supervisord service): ... > I have to remove the files in var/locks manually to go forward. Is there a configuration error for my setup? Or is it just a not fixed bug? Add the --force option to the 'mailman start' command in your startup script. i.e. `mailman start --force` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Error Curiosity

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/20 2:11 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > This happened again. Is there a way to get HK to deal with such messages automatically? How would you like them dealt with? The issue is in mailman-hyperkitty. When it's attempt to archive the message returns an error, it queues the message for retry. It is not clear if any of these errors are actually retryable - for sure some aren't but maybe others like HyperKitty not responding are - but even if we think retry won't succeed what would you like done with the message? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: UnpicklingError on mailman lists command

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/2/21 7:35 PM, Bryan Loniewski wrote: > $ /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman version > GNU Mailman 3.3.2 (Tom Sawyer) > > So, I'm running > 3.2. Any other advice on debugging the truncated data? The traceback indicates sqlalchemy is unpickling data whose type is PickleType. The only mailinglist columns which are PickleType are the legacy *these_nonmembers and topics. You could try invoking mysql on Mailman's database and doing SELECT list_name, accept_these_nonmembers, hold_these_nonmembers, reject_these_nonmembers, discard_these_nonmembers, topics FROM mailinglist; and look for the longest values to possibly identify the problem list and attribute. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problem with importing lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/1/24 11:09 AM, Alain D D Williams wrote: > This is a problem that I had before. > > Creating a new email list, adding members - all goes well the members can send > email to the list and it is sent out. > > Create an email list and import configuration data from mailman 2.1.20 > *sometimes* has problems - mail is received, archived but not sent out. Are you running `mailman import21` as `root` and thus creating files in Mailman's var/templates/lists/ directory that can't be read by `mailman`? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty django.request forbidden

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/1/25 08:02, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Arpad Horvath via Mailman-users writes: > > > ERROR 2025-02-26 06:47:31,705 861 hyperkitty.views.mailman Access to the archiving API endpoint was forbidden from IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, your MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM setting may be misconfigured > [...] > > I have this line in /etc/mailman3/mailman-web.py > > > > MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM = ('https://lists.somewhere.xx/hyperkitty', '::1') As Steve says, 'https://lists.somewhere.xx/hyperkitty' is inappropriate for MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM. In particilar, MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM must include the IP 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' from the above log message. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/21/2017 04:43 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > YEEEES! At last!!! I can see the web UI. > > Now I´m getting this message in the web UI: > > Something went wrong > Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core. > > > > Where do I configure the REST API ????? So I guess you figured out that ALLOWED_HOSTS is a Django setting in settings.py or wherever your Django settings are. Now you have to start Mailman Core. In your Python 3 'env' where you installed Mailman Core, run 'bin/mailman start'. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/25/2017 01:21 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > Regarding this: > > # To be added to Django's settings.py > > EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend' > EMAIL_HOST = 'localhost' > EMAIL_PORT = 25 > EMAIL_HOST_USER = <username> > EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = <password> > > > > What should I use for username and password? > Should I keep the localhost on the host param? If you want Django (i.e. Postorius, Hyperkitty and Django admin/auth/etc.) to deliver via localhost, you don't need EMAIL_HOST_USER and EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD. Those are only for authentication to some other host. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: join via webform

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/21/19 6:32 AM, mailman3(a)malevil.cc wrote: > but that means you have to login first and need a password, ok. That is not very convenient, so I think about setting up a simple (external) form where users can enter their emailaddress and its then used to send a message to list-leave(a)example.com. That would certainly work, but you should ensure that the list's unsubscription_policy is not 'open' so people can't unsubscribe others without their knowledge. The default policy is 'confirm' so it should be OK if you haven't changed it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius & multi domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/22/20 11:37 AM, Gelpi Andrea wrote: > > I'm not a python programmer so I ask you if it'd be long to implement a > workaround like this. > > If the web server is a.example.com and the email domain is example.com > > It'd be possible to drop the "a" and send the email domain only in the > query? > > It's a workaround. Can you help me in this? I'm currently working on a better fix. I'll post here on my progress. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman services under systemd

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/22/20 2:13 PM, Morris Jones wrote: > First post, I'm building a new mail server as my tired old server can > no longer meet security requirements. (It's long overdue.) > I see where Torge Riedel is running the mailman service under systemd, > but I'm having trouble doing that. I don't see a mailman option that > doesn't detach as a daemon. > Did I miss something? Anyone have a systemd service example I might > pilfer? <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experience?action=At…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Recommended mySQL Database Setup & Archive Importing

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/20 1:02 PM, matthew(a)alberti.us wrote: > Mark/Ruth/The List, > Thanks for the prompt responses. Before I try to figure out a way to > correct this... is the "character_set_database" the only thing I should be > looking at? You need to set 'OPTIONS': {'charset': 'utf8mb4'} in the DATABASES['default'] definition in your django settings. I'm not sure if this overrides the various collation, etc. settings in the DB or not, but it wouldn't hurt to update the DB. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: How to create my first mailing list

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/18/22 18:22, liutianhua68(a)163.com wrote: > Hello: > I have installed mailman3 with docker, configured "MAILMAN_ADMIN" in docker-compose.yaml, but after logging into web with this user, there is nowhere to create mailing list. > How should I create a super admin account now or where to create the first mailing list, is there any reference documentation, please help, thanks. Documentation is at https://asynchronous.in/docker-mailman/ See https://asynchronous.in/docker-mailman/web/#running for creating a Django superuser. Once created, the superuser can create lists in Postorius. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: serving /static-content within /mailman3-web-Folder - change in recent mm release

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/29/22 06:50, Stefan Bauer wrote: > Hi Folks, > > during our migration to latest MM we noticed, that nowadays, the static > content is not served from within mailmans base directory, but from outside. > > old MM3: > > domain.tld/mailman3/static/django-mailman3/js/main.js > > new MM3: > > domain.tld/static/django-mailman3/js/main.js > > Is there a chance to change it to the old behavior? See the Django settings STATIC_ROOT and STATIC_URL. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Settings, Message Acceptance, Discard these non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/22/25 12:10, Philip Bondi wrote: > Hello to all: > > We receive quite a bit of spam. I try to maintain some regular expressions in "Discard these non-members" to block spammers. > > Where would the "discard" notification be logged? I think the docs say "mailman.log". What would I search for? The message is written to the mailman.vette log which by default is included in the mailman.log file. The log message is DISCARD: MESSAGE-ID; The sender is in the nonmember discard list -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Too Many From Headers

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/17/25 07:07, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't know if this is related or not but rather then the list name being in the from header, it is either the list owner or the sender address. Since I'm both I don't know how to tell which from my test emails. It should be the sender. Nothing in Mailman would but the list's owner address there. You still haven't answered whether it is one From: header with the address repeated 5 times or 5 separate From: headers. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 weeks, 5 days

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core.

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/20 11:28 AM, joseverde(a)gmail.com wrote: > Alrighty, so resetting the permissions and running as list got things running. I was able to start mailman, although when it started I got 4 pages of exceptions. Here's one shortened example (most seemed to follow the same pattern): Your issues all seem to be MemoryError This is a Python detected out of memory condition. You need more RAM or you need to configure or increase the size of a swap file. What does `free` show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: import an mm3 hyperkitty archive

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/22 09:16, Eggert Ehmke wrote: > Where is it stated that in this situation I have to run mailman-web instead of django-admin? I said: >> Note in the above, `django-admin` is the command you use to invoke >> Django's management which may be `django-admin`, `manage.py`, >> `mailman-web` or something else depending on how Mailman is installed. and while it is not explicitly stated, when using mailman-web per https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#installing-web-… all the examples show the command as `mailman-web`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: New Lists Appear in HyperKitty Archives, But No Mail Data is Shown

by Mark Sapiro

On July 14, 2025 11:44:56 AM EDT, Asif Muzammil via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >Hi Mark, > >i have spool data at /opt/mailman/mm/var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ some files available 17375475,38829901003948757.pck >so now what to do with this? Please give me guideline now what do next? Find the relevant errors and tracebacks in /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/mailman.log. If those aren't sufficient for you to understand and fix the issue, post one exception and traceback here and we will help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

4 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: mass invitation

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/20/19 9:07 AM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019, at 7:17 AM, mailman3(a)malevil.cc wrote: >> in postorius there is just the option to make a mass subscription, in >> mailman2 there was also the possibility to just invite users, so they >> need to click a link when they really want to join the list. Is this >> also available in mailman3/postorius? > > > No, not yet. There is an open issue that I can't dig out right now. The issue is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/510> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Converting discussion list to read-only list (settings)

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/19 3:14 AM, Paul Arenson wrote: > >> Announce only style the list attribute > allow_list_posts is False and for the Discussion style, it's True. > > I guess I should leave it as TRUE if I am keeping as discussion list, but since I am moderating all comments, I am guessing it doesn't matter. Am I right? Yes, leave it True. It only matters for users replying by email with MUAs that provide a "reply-list" function, but for them, it is helpful. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: installation

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/21/20 5:40 PM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote: > What do I do now about this? > > (venv) root@localhost:/opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project# > python manage.py collectstatic > > You have requested to collect static files at the destination > location as specified in your settings: > > /opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project/static > > This will overwrite existing files! > Are you sure you want to do this? > > Type 'yes' to continue, or 'no' to cancel: y > CommandError: Collecting static files cancelled. > (venv) root@localhost:/opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project# y != yes -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Lessons learned and a couple little gotcha for newbies

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/13/22 05:23, Paul Ssekamatte via Mailman-users wrote: > hi William, > please clarify what you mean by this step > 8. You need to manually set the local virtual host for mailman3 > Thank you He means that if you are going to use the alias domain feature discussed at https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… you need to actually set the value you choose for the alias_domain in the Postorius domains view or via REST or `mailman shell`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Fwd: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/1/21 1:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > When Python runs or imports from a .py file, it first looks for a > corresponding .pyc file and if that is as new or newer than the .py, it > uses the .pyc. If not, it uses the .py and byte-compiles it and if it > has permission, writes an updated .pyc > > Except recent Python3 (at least I think 3.5 and newer doesn't use a .pyc > in the same directory as the .py Its uses a __pycache__ directory in the > same directory as the .py and within that directory a file like in this > case settings_local.cpython-37.pyc (or whatever the python version is) > > In any case, I would remove the existing settings_local.pyc. That can't > hurt, but I'm curious what > > ls -lR /usr/share/mailman3-web/ > > shows. It just occurred to me what the issue is. It is almost certainly that there is a /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings_local.pyc that is as new or newer than the /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings_local.py symlink even though it is older than the target /etc/mailman3/mailman-web.py. Just remove that .pyc, and that should fix it. But I still wonder what python version this is since current Mailman requires python >= 3.6 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Docker Installation of Mailman -- The Hyperkitty Chronicles

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/22/18 6:08 AM, brian(a)emwd.com wrote: > Using Maxking's docker project to install mailman3, I have a fairly functional mailman3 installation. However Hyperkitty is not archiving or showing list participants like: ... Check your list's Settings -> Archiving in Postorius and make sure policy is public or private and HyperKitty is active. Also, make sure the cron jobs are running. I'm not sure how this is set up in the Docker container, but see <http://docs.list.org/en/latest/config-web.html#scheduled-tasks-required>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: "Cannot connect to SMTP server localhost on port 25"

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/21/19 1:28 AM, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote: > > I cannot discern anything in the qfiles. It'd take some effort to > deanonymise them for posting here. > > I've had new posts in the list and they get stuck as well. It's a stretch, but I suggest you examine the list membership and remove any invalid local addresses. Also, look in the mail server's logs to see if you can see anything about incoming connections being established and then dropped. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/20 11:47 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > I have run the below commands for sure: > > $ cd mailmanclient > $ python setup.py develop > > And as you have suggested, I navigate to mailmanclient directory and ran > the git log to provide you the version output. And I am fairly certain that the running Mailman/Postorius installation is not using those files. I can't tell you why this is the case, but if it weren't, you wouldn't be seeing this error. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: unwanted chunked delivery

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/7/22 2:12 PM, mm3-omf(a)sh.werbittewas.de wrote: > > I understand, why chunking may have benefits perhaps in most situations, > so it's set as default, but it would be great, to have the possibility > to disable this without patching code, which might get overwritten with > an update. You could submit an issue as a feature request at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues, but I don't think we'd give it much priority. I think the trend these days is more towards enabling personalization and/or VERP which require one recipient per transaction. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/25 08:51, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't know if this has anything to do with anything but I'm seeing this line in the mailman3 status: > > mailman3.service: Can't open PID file /opt/mailman/mm/var/master.pid (yet?) > > I checked and the pid file is being created. This was asked by you at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… and answered at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… Also see https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/1397 and https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite-doc/-/merge_requests/183 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: getting spammed when sending lots of mails (>1000)

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/05/2018 11:22 AM, Asaf Ohayon wrote: > > Using Mailman 3.2 / Posfix 2.10.1 > I have a list configured, when having only few members, > all is OK, email gets to inbox (at GMail) > > But when sending to thousands of members, > it gets to the Spam folder, > Is it a matter of rate-limiting at postfix ? Presumably, the issue is 'too much' email arriving at Google in a short time. If you can limit the sending rate in Postfix, that could help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/20 12:08 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > I tried this way but in this method I don't find any files to edit for my > customizations like > 1. Removal of social accounts, > 2. Addition of SMS integration and so. > > If I can do my required customizations through pip installation I am fine > with that. If you follow the instructions for installing in a virtualenv, in say /opt/mailman/venv, all the component files will be in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.x/site-packages -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: more about spanish translations

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/19/21 5:09 AM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > > I would like to translate it all, but as said, I cannot find where to do > it. I wonder if it's comes from another package as allauth or something > like this. Yes, it does come from allauth, specifically allauth/templates/account/email/email_confirmation_message.txt. The Spanish allauth message catalog is at <https://github.com/pennersr/django-allauth/tree/master/allauth/locale/es/LC…>. I suppose you could submit a pull request to update it. Or you could just update your local file in your installation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: accept mails from several Users, not list members beside members, howto

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/12/21 11:56 PM, Lars Schimmer wrote: > > Thank you. > I would have hoped for a extra input box to enter a list of ~100 email > addresses, but ok, lets do it this way. There is the legacy accept_these_nonmembers setting (exposed in Postorius since 1.3.3). This is designed to support the MM 2.1 setting which accepted regexps, but it also supports non-regexp addresses. Note that a match in one of *_these_nonmembers will override the moderation action for a non-member. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Upgrading mailman 3 venv installation

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/29/21 12:32 PM, Morris Jones wrote: > > It appears that my installation predates the mailman-web package, as I > don't have it installed. > > But if I understand the docs correctly, it serves to take care of the > django-admin commands for migration, static files, js/css compression, etc. > > So I think I don't need to do anything special (like add mailman-web), > except a database migration after the upgrades. That's correct. I recommend running these Django commands after upgrading collectstatic --clear compress compilemessages migrate -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: About to Install MM3 -- Seeking clarification

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/25/22 12:56, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > I must be missing necessary policy modules for mailman or I am > missing relevant parts of the tutorial that deals with SELinux. Where > do I go from here? Create the necessary SELinux rules to allow `mailman` to access what it needs to. I don't know if anyone on this list can help you with that. Note that if `mailman` is currently a `normal user` as opposed to a `system user` making it a system user might help. See `man usermod` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: No DBA password when installing Mailman3 with remote database server

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/3/22 03:57, Markus Ludwig Grandpré wrote: > > thank you very much for your answers. Below this text you will find a > brief documentation how I finally managed to install mailman3 and > mailman3web packages under Debian 11 with a remote PostGreSQL server > v10.22. Thank you for providing this documentation. With your permission, I would like to add this to the wiki at https://wiki.list.org/DOC/5%20Downloading%20and%20installing%20Mailman. Is that OK, if so may I also acknowledge you as the author? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Clean-up of non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/25/24 15:02, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > (venv) mailman@eu:~$ mailman shell -l LISTSPEC > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell > Use commit() to commit changes. > Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. > Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. > The variable 'm' is the LISTSPEC mailing list > In [1]: len(list(m.nonmembers.members)) > Out[1]: 873 Then it appears that your version of mailman/commands/cli_members is broken. Compare it to https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/raw/master/src/mailman/commands/cli_me… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Member Issue Discovered

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/20/20 6:54 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > On 10/19/20 11:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> Mailman 3 is totally different from Mailman 2.1 in this respect. Mailman >> 2.1 had no concept of user. All it knew was addresses subscribed to >> lists and an address subscribed to one list had no connection to the >> same address subscribed to another list or being an owner or moderator >> of a list. > > I think this should still be the case for non-registered list members. > List owners/moderators are different. They HAVE to be registered users > of Postorius/Affinity in order to manage/moderate a list. Here's a thought. For Affinity/Empathy at least, how about using Mailman core's user as the Affinity registered user. I.e., if someone's first interaction is to register with Affinity, have that registration create a core user to keep the Affinity registration data. This core user already accommodates a display_name and password and email address(es). If the person already is a core user when registering for Affinity, just update the core user as needed, probably only a password reset or just setting it if it is currently None. Then you don't have the issue of another, separate registration for Affinity. This would be more difficult for Postorius/Hyperkitty because those users are Django users, but that isn't an issue for Affinity. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: FYI: Django security releases issued: 4.0.6 and 3.2.14

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/7/22 12:44 PM, David Newman wrote: > > However, pip now throws a warning when looking at package info: > > (venv) mailman@somehost:/home/dnewman$ pip show mailman-web > WARNING: Ignoring invalid distribution -jango (/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages) > ... What does ``` ls -la /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/-jango* ``` show? I suspect you have some spurious stuff there. The timestamps might give a clue as to how it got there. If it shows anything, ``` rm -rf /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/-jango* ``` will probably fix it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Disable all mail capabilities

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/2/24 09:30, Hope Less via Mailman-users wrote: > > If I can't stop this I'll have to remove the list entirely which includes the archives. I really wish to leave the archives up. Any idea on how I can remove the mail capabilities and leave the rest? You can remove the list and keep the archives. The `mailman remove` command will remove the list and leave the HyperKitty or other archive intact. However, if the HyperKitty archive is not public, it will not be accessible to anyone but superusers without the list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius not HTML-decoding < to "<" characters

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/9/24 12:24, Ron / BCLUG wrote: > > Hopefully I've assigned the blame to Postorius accurately and no > formatting nor archiving issues make the issue difficult to understand. This is a HyperKitty issue. Postorius has nothing to do with archiving. Also, it depends on the archive rendering mode and only occurs if the mode is Markdown text rather than Plain text. It is really `mistune`, <https://mistune.lepture.com/en/latest/index.html>, which is doing the markdown rendering and which `escapes` HTML tags. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Internal server error instead of web interface

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/25 02:44, Christian H. Kuhn via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi all, > > https://lists.qno.de/mailman3 shows an internal server error. The most common cause of this is an uncaught exception thrown in Mailman core. > No errors show in logs. That's strange. There should be something. If it's a core error, it should be logged in /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/mailman.log. Also, there is a Django log, probably at opt/mailman/web/logs/mailmanweb.log. Have you looked at those? Are they being written at all? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/21/2017 04:57 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > Should Sign Up ?? Log In?? Yes. > El vie., 21 jul. 2017 a las 18:56, Rafael Mora (<rafael.mora.guti(a)gmail.com>) > escribió: > >> Nice! Up and running! >> >> How do I start using mailman? what are the steps?? What do you want to do with Mailman? This is the key question. There is some list subscriber documentation at <http://docs.list.org/en/latest/userguide.html>. You can create domains and lists via Postorius or via the core's bin/mailman commands ('bin/mailman --help' for a list). -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: HyperKitty: Thread matching query does not exist

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/30/2017 07:42 AM, C. R. Oldham wrote: > > I have an active list for which I am trying to debug some deliverability > issues. When a user tells me that folks aren't getting their postings, I > check the archives first. In this case, I am getting a traceback saying > "thread matching query does not exist" when I try to go to the HyperKitty > page for the list. How can I debug this? Start by posting the traceback, and we may be able to help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: LTMP to Postfix problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/18/20 4:17 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > So lmtp runner was NOT running when I restarted mailman core, however I > saw no error messages in the mailman.log at the time of the first > instance of the connection refused message. Check your system logs to see if there's anything about the OS killing the process. Also check the Postfix log for deliveries to mailman just before it died. Just stabbing in the dark, but maybe some huge message caused it to grow beyond some memory limit and get killed by the OS. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: uncaught bounce messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/23/21 5:29 PM, David Bremner wrote: > > Oh great, I just upgraded to Mailman 3.3.0, so I'll see what happens. > > I did notice a bunch (10 or 20?) of subscribers being disabled for being > over the bounce threshhold right after the upgrade, I wonder if that is > related. See the thread at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… There is an example `mailman shell` session at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… that will reenable delivery for members disabled by bounce if you think the disables were spurious. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Docker-Setup: example.com in test mails

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/21/22 05:06, Bjoern Franke via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, > > we are running a docker setup with mailman-web and mailman-core. > > To our confusion, test mails testing for bounces are sent from example.com > > From: Mailman <mailman(a)example.com> > To: Mailman Bounces <mailman-bounces(a)example.com> > > instead of the list domain and are therefore often considered as spam. > The list domain should be lists.ffnw.de. Exactly what messages are you referring to? I don't understand `test mails testing for bounces`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: mail for lists.ccalternatives.org loops back to myself, then Recipient address rejected

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/9/22 18:12, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote: > > -Added lists.ccalternatives.org to the mydestination line in > /etc/postfix/main.cf and restarted Postfix > -Now a new error message: > <Deepadaptation(a)lists.ccalternatives.org>: host > lists.ccalternatives.org[192.46.218.224] said: 550 5.1.1 > <Deepadaptation(a)lists.ccalternatives.org>: Recipient address rejected: > User > unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO command) See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… - in particular local_recipient_maps. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/10/25 09:45, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Your assumption is correct. I did not use the back button. I went to https://localhost/mailman3 the clicked on the signin button in the upper right. After filling in the username and password the 403 page came up. See https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.2/ref/csrf/#how-it-works particularly the parts about cookies. Is localhost included in ALLOWED_HOSTS in your settings.py? Is there another domain that can be used to reach your server?, if so is that in ALLOWED_HOSTS, and what if you use that domain rather than localhost. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Autorespond postings: does not seem to work on 3.2?

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/29/2018 11:28 AM, Asaf Ohayon wrote: > Hello > > Maybe I'm not understanding the meaning of this setting correctly, > When I set this, I don't see any extra emails going out when I'm posting to the list I'm sure this is the case. I was looking at this myself the other day, and I hadn't finished my analysis, but it appears the only autoresponder that is actually implemented is autorespond requests. The others have apparently never worked in Mailman 3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Django errors after deleting a thread

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/24/20 12:45 PM, peter(a)chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: > > After deleting a thread via the web interface (because it's spam), I > get lots of messages from hyperkitty > > E.g. > Internal Server Error: /hyperkitty/list/list@domain/top-threads > > DoesNotExist at /hyperkitty/list/list@domain/top-threads > Thread matching query does not exist. This should resolve itself eventually if you are running the Django periodic jobs, but to fix it you can manually run your_django_admin_command runjob recent_threads_cache which is a daily job which refreshes the recent threads cache. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Rebuilding a list index fails

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/21 9:59 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > Now that I’ve got my instance back up and running on the latest released code, I am trying to rebuild a list index. I am using Xapian via haystack, which worked beautifully before my recent list meltdown. > > Error messages below. > > rebuild_index fails with the same error. > > This is with django version 3.0.12. django.utils.six was removed in Django 3.0. See <https://pypi.org/project/django-utils-six/> for a work around replacement. I.e. in your venv do pip install django-utils-six -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Custom templates (was: Re: Re: nginx configuration on a multitasking server)

by Mark Sapiro

David Newman wrote: > https://${domain}/mailman3/lists/${short_listname}.${domain}/ FYI, ${short_listname}.${domain} is the same as ${list_id} Also, ${domain} as the web site address may not be appropriate. For example, on this list $domain is `mailman3.org`, but the base URL for Postorius is `https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3` and `https://mailman3.org/mailman3` doesn't work. There is no replacement for the web domain if it's different from the email domain for the same reason that there are no web URLs in the default templates. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty failure?

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/24/22 09:24, Stephen Daniel wrote: > > In the log I see messages that look like this: > > Feb 24 11:43:44 2022 (28621) HyperKitty failure on > https://lists.example.com/archives/api/mailman/archive: <html> > <head><title>401 Authorization Required</title> What are the exact versions of HyperKitty and mailman-hyperkitty HyperKitty >=1.3.5 requires mailman-hyperkitty >=1.2.0. Earlier versions of HyperKitty require earlier versions of mailman-hyperkitty. If you have HyperKitty >=1.3.5 and mailman-hyperkitty >=1.2.0 there is a thread on this at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… See the last two posts in that thread. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/15/23 05:22, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > 1. Where is this template that the system used and can I edit it? /opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/<python_version>/site-packages/mailman/templates/en/list:user:action:subscribe.txt You can edit it, but your edits will be overwritten if you upgrade. > 2. Why is it not using the template I created? Is the template you placed in /opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/lists/kictanet.lists.kictanet.or.ke/en/ named list:user:action:subscribe.txt and does Mailman have permission to read it? Did you try to create a template in Postorius? If you did, that one will take precedence. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Domain in welcome message

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/17/2016 08:28 PM, Jean-Luc Wasmer wrote: > > The welcome message contains the wrong URL ("example.com") for the list: This is fixed for Mailman 3.1. The templating system and templates have been changed. In the mean time, you can make a custom version of the welcome.txt template for the site, domain or list. See mailman/templates/en/welcome.txt for the default template. A custom template can be put in var/templates/site/en/welcome.txt or var/templates/domains/example.com/en/welcome.txt or var/templates/lists/listname.example.com/en/welcome.txt where var is Mailman's configured var_dir. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Where are the subject templates hidden?

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/28/2017 02:56 AM, Thor Atle Rustad wrote: > Using Docker. Suppose I've overcome > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/359 and I can make Mailman use > the templates/site/no directory for my customized templates. Yes, it seems > to be working, no hickups when national characters are used in the > templates. > > but... > > the welcome message still says "Welcome to the "listname" mailing list" in > English. Is it possible to change that? Have you put the desired template in templates/site/no/list:user:notice:welcome.txt ? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 does not send to the members of the lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/12/20 6:11 PM, maszap(a)tin.it wrote: > Hi, > > my main.cf > ... > virtual_transport = lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp Your list is apparently in a virtual domain and the above is overriding the transport maps below and delivering list mail to Dovecot. > virtual_uid_maps = static:5000 > > # Mailman related settings > owner_request_special = no > transport_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp > local_recipient_maps = proxy:unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp > relay_domains = ${{$compatibility_level} < {2} ? {$mydestination} : {}} hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_domains -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Changing subscription address

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/15/21 4:16 PM, Allan Hansen wrote: > > Will I now have to tell her to do this for each list she is subscribed to: If you have shell access to the server, you can do this: ``` $ /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman shell Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. >>> um = getUtility(IUserManager) >>> adr = um.get_address('old(a)examople.com') >>> adr.email = 'new(a)example.net' >>> commit() ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Issues with cross posted emails after upgrading to mailman 3.3.6

by Mark Sapiro

Simon Coggins wrote: > On 7 Nov 2021, at 10:54 am, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.netmailto:mark@msapiro.net> wrote: > I wound up taking a different approach. I check for other references to > the message in the message store and only delete the message if there > are none. The fix is at > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/932/diffshttps://gitlab… > Oh nice. That seems like a sensible solution. Thanks for tackling so quickly. I’ll do some testing today and roll it out once testing is complete. I made a small change to defend against 'impossible' situations. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/933/diffs

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: What is this EMail trying to tell me

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/22 21:17, Martin Lorenz wrote: > Since I rebootet my VPS yesterday I get tons of these and can't find out what's wrong. > > Please help. > > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Service Unavailable: /mailman3/lists/ku-venne-2020.list.poc.im/ > Datum: Fri, 09 Dec 2022 04:58:15 -0000 > Von: django(a)poc.im > An: root@localhost > > Service Unavailable: /mailman3/lists/ku-venne-2020.list.poc.im/ It appears that Mailman core is not running? Did it start properly following the reboot? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman issues after re-boot

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/27/23 16:29, paulrubin37(a)gmail.com wrote: > I went through the install process in the provided link when I tried to start the service I keep getting errors about: > > Sep 27 19:17:15 mail mailman[1771]: ImportError: cannot import name 'path' from 'importlib_resources' (/opt/mailman/venv/lib64/python3.8/site-packages/importlib_resources/__init__.py) > > I verified the python version: > > (venv) mailman@mail:~> python -V > Python 3.8.10 See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1093 The easiest fix is in your venv do ``` pip install importlib_resources\<6.0 ``` Mailman core <=3.3.8 is incompatible with importlib_resources>=6.0 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

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