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[MM3-users] Re: Header settings and Gmail

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/24 12:28, erik(a)dante.de wrote: > Hi, > > We operate a mailing list on which many members use their Gmail address. In the default settings, this results in a warning and delayed delivery (and maybe marking as spam): ... The original of this duplicate post replied to at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: External MTA incoming mail: configuration

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/2/24 08:47, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > Nice one! > I'd love to know how this config is done in Postfix. Just like https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… or https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setup-mta only on the remote MTA. This requires copying the var/data/postfix* files from the Mailman server to the remote MTA server which can be automated as mentioned earlier in this thread. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: External MTA incoming mail: configuration

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/2/24 09:43, Roland Giesler via Mailman-users wrote: > Ah, so I just have to figure out why the LMTP runner is not running. Stop Mailman core and then start it. You must stop and then start as opposed to restart. If lmtp runner is not running after that check /var/log/mailman3/mailman.log for possible reasons. You can also check that log for reasons why it isn't currently running. You can also check /var/log/syslog* for events like out_of_memory that might have killed it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: Where to put static files referred to from list Info page?

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/5/24 15:02, Greg Newby wrote: > > My question: Is there a place I can put these files within the Mailman > directory hierarchy so they can be linked from the list Info page? You could put them in Mailman's static/ directory and reference them with a /static/... URL. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: Clearing webserver cache - Nginx

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/6/24 00:24, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > In any case, here is my virtualhost config: It looks OK. I suggest you run mailman-web collectstatic --clear mailman-web compress -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: Only Recent archive tab works after mailman upgrade

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/6/24 06:09, zoltan(a)circle-interactive.co.uk wrote: > Thanks both for your reply. > > It was not a big jump > previous > HyperKitty-1.3.7 > mailman_hyperkitty-1.2.0 > > current > HyperKitty 1.3.9 > mailman-hyperkitty 1.2.1 > > and I am not sure either why it is non functional. Does this occur with all browsers? Have you tried clearing your browser's cache. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman/Django-allauth integration with Yahoo

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/8/24 11:30, Дилян Палаузов wrote: > > So the text "we have sent you an email for verification” but the email stating ”there is already such an account within mailman” is misleading, especially after the first message is shown to an yahoo-authenticated user. I'm not sure if it's relevant, but we have issues with the latest django-allauth 64.0. django-mailman3 now pins the requirement at `>=0.63,<0.64` (it should be `<64.0` but `<0.64` has the same effect). -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: User cannot reset password

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/11/24 10:56, Greg Newby wrote: > I imported MM2.1 lists to Mailman3 (using import21 - details are in my > previous messages to mailman-users), and have had a couple of reports of > people for whom the password reset function via "Forgot password" on the > list login screen doesn't work as expected. Django (web) accounts (Postorius and HyperKitty) are separate from Mailman core. Users inported from MM 2.1 do not have web accounts. They have to sign up, not request a password reset. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: Clearing webserver cache - Nginx

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/16/24 7:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > Right now I am using apache2, but I am seeing something odd: > https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/archives/ is empty. Is this normal? No, it should be similar to https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/ > So I am left wondering why nginx is prefixing "usr/share/nginx/html" to > /static. Do you have ``` location /static/ { alias /opt/mailman/web/static/; } ``` in your nginx config? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to remove Held Unsubscriptions

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/9/24 12:14, lowell(a)fas.harvard.edu wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > I'm having the same issue. We're Postorius Version 1.3.4.1. Which is three and a half years old. > I have no idea of how to use a shell or REST API. I update things via the web. If you can't upgrade to Postorius >= 1.3.5, see https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… which describes the `mailman shell` interaction required to do this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Configure new list via REST API - trying to add moderators

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/12/24 06:08, Andy Matthews wrote: > Unfortunately no. What is different between what I show at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… and what you are doing? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: CSV import for mass subscription

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/20/24 01:44, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > I believe the link to make feature requests is > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/?label_name%5B%5D=feature%20req… Actually, that URL will produce a list of current issues which are tagged `feature request`. To submit a new one, go to https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/new and create the issue and tag it as a feature request. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: CSV import for mass subscription

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/20/24 01:26, Markus Grandpré wrote: > Dear list, > > we noticed that there is a function to convert the member list into a > CSV format and save it.Therefore, we would like to know if the > implementation of a CVS import for mass subscription is already planned? > If not, how can we submit a corresponding feature request? The exported CSV is just a list of email addresses, and that could be easily just pasted into the mass subscription form. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: CSV import for mass subscription

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/20/24 12:00, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > Why was it called a CSV? Appropriateness or future plans to download a true > CSV? It is a CSV, albeit with only one column. It was implemented by <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/commit/f9121a7afca0e0d4aac49509598b2…>. You'd have to ask the author if anything further was planned. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migrating archives from Mailman21 to Mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/24/24 05:49, Markus Grandpré wrote: > Dear List, > > I have a question about migrating archives from Mailman21 to Mailman3: > Is it possible to migrate only the archive of a list, but not the list? Yes. There is no requirement that archives have a matching list in Mailman core. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can we let member moderation settings be considered after the header filters let the message through?

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/24/24 01:52, Marco van Tol wrote: > > Is there any way we can discard spam messages from members before they > become moderated? This is fixed by https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/1237 (released in Mailman core 3.3.10b1). Headel filters are now checked before emergency, member and nonmember moderation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migrating archives from Mailman21 to Mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/28/24 08:00, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > My thinking around the above was that `foo-list(a)example.com` refers to a > Mailman list. > But now I am beginning to think that it's only a listname for HyperKitty > and the list doesn't necessarily have to exist in Mailman Core. > Is that right? Yes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: makemigrations --merge error after Debian upgrade

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/1/24 06:46, Chupin Maxime via Mailman-users wrote: > Thanks. > Unfortunately, whereas TIMEOUT is set to 59 and RETRY to 60, I still get the warn... Very weird. We recommend Q_CLUSTER = { 'timeout': 300, 'retry': 360, 'save_limit': 100, 'orm': 'default', } -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: makemigrations --merge error after Debian upgrade

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/1/24 06:49, Chupin Maxime via Mailman-users wrote: > Thank you, but still asking for Password to execute mailman-web... Look at the contents of the mailman-web script. My guess is it contains `sudo -u list ...` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: makemigrations --merge error after Debian upgrade

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/2/24 05:58, Chupin Maxime via Mailman-users wrote: > Tried to add these lines before the test in the `conf.py`and nothing changes. Should I remove the test on TIMEOUT ? You should be reporting these issues (this and the migrations issue) to Debian. We don't know how to deal with Debian packaging issues. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: makemigrations --merge error after Debian upgrade

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/2/24 05:55, Chupin Maxime via Mailman-users wrote: > That does not change anything... :( What user ran the `makemigrations --merge`? What does `ls -la /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django_q/migrations/` show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Should I try to install mailman3 on Kubuntu 20.04?

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/4/24 15:59, Bill Oliver wrote: > > My bad. I meant 24.04 LTS. Have folk had good success with Ubuntu > 24.04 and mailman3? Yes, this works well using the virtualenv install procedure at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html The people who have trouble are mostly those trying to install the Debian/Ubuntu packages via apt. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: anomalous behavior

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/5/24 10:21, Donato Molino wrote: > > MTA log accept the message: (relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024 - status=sent (250 Ok)) > then HyperKitty archived message, then smtp log show the message above > but does not send to recipients. Is there anything relevant in mailman.log? Are there messages in Mailman's shunt queue?. The fact that the message is archived means the issue is either in mailman/handlers/to_outgoing.py or mailman/runners/outgoing.py -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 error on moderation request

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/10/24 2:39 AM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > How to fix? Add 'django.contrib.humanize' to INSTALLED_APPS in your dgango settings. See the 1.3.12 section at https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/blob/master/README.rst and https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-web/-/merge_requests/50 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: max_day_to_hold - when in force?

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/24 12:47 AM, Wikinaut wrote: > > Are there any plans to bring this into action, so that held messages are really discarded after that number of days? (like it was in mailman2)? There doesn't seem to be an issue filed for this. The best way to give this priority is to file an issue at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/new -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Verification emails 'helo' rejected

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/16/24 11:04, Thomas Ward via Mailman-users wrote: > > This is actually a postfix misconfiguration. By default, Postfix uses > the `myhostname` variable to define your HELO/EHLO. I don't think that's the case here. The issue is with SMTP from Django to Postfix, not with SMTP from Postfix. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: adding personalized email header/content in mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/17/24 15:46, Alex I wrote: > Thanks, but still get the same KeyError: 'customheader'. I don't know python so it seems like waste of time trying to make it work without understanding much. The `name` defined in the module needs to be the same as the name of the file in the handlers directory without the .py extension and with any `_` changed to `-`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Add domain to Mailman, can't create list with that new domain

by Mark Sapiro

> > One quick question. When I run the "mailman create mailman(a)mydomain.com --owner=admin(a)mydomain.com" command, it implicitly adds a domain to Mailman 3. Is it the create command which does that, or the fact that I'm passing the --owner flag? It is the create command itself. If the domain of the created list is not currently known it will be registered unless the -D/--no-domain option is given. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Logging subscribes/unsubscribes

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/13/24 20:30, Nelson Strother via Mailman-users wrote: > On 10/13/24 20:33, francesd919--- via Mailman-users wrote: >> in my venv installation, i found mailman.log in /opt/mailman/var/logs. >> >> What does the log entry look like for new subscriptions? >> I am just trying to find a list of all new subscribers since a date. >> >> Thanks! >> _______________________________________________ > > With the default settings mailman.log contains no evidence of subscribe > actions. This is a known issue. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1143 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to fix: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP)

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/31/24 16:30, Jigme Datse wrote: > > Going to any of the list pages, gives the above Error. Well, not > exactly the above error, Django is in square brackets. OK, that will > work better for me with the how to fix. What's in Django's logs? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: redirecting -bounces replies

by Mark Sapiro

Instead of what I wrote at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… you might consider whether setting the list's Notify owner on bounce increment to Yes and Forward unrecognized bounces to List or Site admins might do what you want. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: The dread "relay access denied" error

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/24 19:07, Bill Oliver wrote: > mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 [::ffff:127.0.0.0]/104 [::1]/128 mail.bill- > oliver.com bill-oliver.com lists.bill-oliver.com I suspect this is the issue. mynetworks is a list of network addresses or network/netmask patterns. Domain names don't work. set mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 [::ffff:127.0.0.0]/104 [::1]/128 162.144.108.19 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installation Questions [Installation}

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/3/24 17:58, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > For > other things like the systemd service and the postfix and web server > configs, you need to do them as root (via sudo). > > Does this mean i need to add the mailman user as a sudoer? No. `mailman` doesn't need to be a sudoer. Somebody needs to be root or a sudoer to create systemd files and edit postfix and web server configs, but that doesn't need to be `mailman`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: "held for moderation" - alias domain details sought

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/24 09:10, Greg Newby via Mailman-users wrote: > > If I use an alias domain, will that replace the need for entries in > /etc/aliases? I'm hesitant to explore since this is my production mail > server. No. The alias_domain attribute of a Mailman domain is for a completely different purpose. It has nothing to do with enabling multiple addresses for posting to a list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Backup and restore a single list

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/24 09:15, advorkin(a)cs.princeton.edu wrote: > Hello, > > This question was asked before, but there was no answer, and it's been over 2 years. > > I'm wondering if there is a procedure to restore one mailing list in mm3? Currently, this is complicated. It involves multiple database queries to get the relevant information for a single list and restore it. I have just created https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1182 for this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Bulk delivery status change?

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/10/24 08:58, Stephen Daniel wrote: > If I run >>>> for mlist in getUtility(IListManager): > ... print(mlist) > ... > <mailing list "testlist1(a)chapelwoodhoadev.org" at 0x7f83f593fba8> > I get only one list. Permissions? Where are the other lists? It should get all the lists. I don't know why it doesn't. Are you running `mailman shell` with the correct configuration. Try running ``` mailman -C path/to/mailman.cfg shell ``` and see if that helps. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installation Questions [Installation}

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/13/24 17:05, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > I'm also running into permission errors with Postgres - user does not have > permissions on public schema. I didn't see anything in the docs about how > to grant proper access to these tables. This is an issue due to changes in PostgreSQL 15.0. An update to the docs is in progress. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite-doc/-/merge_requests/160 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius List members

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/13/24 19:00, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > Is it possible to add delivery status to the summary where many users are > shown ? I find this (on mailman 2) to be very useful, ie get a quick overview of > what is happening to users. There is a merge request in process for this. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/merge_requests/953 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Show list history

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/14/24 02:49, pau.baiges(a)csuc.cat wrote: > Hi, is there a way to know the history of a specific list, such as the changes that have been made over time? > We want to see the history of members who have been added or removed. I can only see the mailman logs from the last 5-6 days Historical information about (un)subscribes is not kept anywhere. Currently, even if you keep logs for a long time, the information is incomplete. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1143 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM2 to MM3 Archives Loading

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/22/24 15:42, Joshua Bushe wrote: > > Yes, that is exactly what I'm referring to. > in my previous post i said "I also created a test list and started a new thread through the GUI, but I got the same outcome." What is your Django setting for Q_CLUSTER and is qcluster running? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Unexpexted error: if you are sure you want to run as root, specify --run-as-root"

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/25/24 5:50 AM, w.schoener(a)alp.dillingen.de wrote: > I tried: > mailman shell -l --run-as-root my.list.id That should be `mailman --run-as-root shell -l my.list.id` but as Odhiambo says you should never run `mailman` commands as `root` unless you really know what you are doing which is why the --run-as-root option is required. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: New domain cannot set set host

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/27/24 12:18 PM, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > But it is not in table mailman3web.django_site > > Please how do I do this ? Add the domain as a site in the Django web admin UI. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Notifying owners of membership changes but not moderators

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/26/24 9:30 PM, Perry Kollmorgen wrote: > > For the code for moderators it currently only adds them: > > mailing_list.add_moderator(moderator.email, display_name=moderator.display_name) > > Would I need to add something similar which sets a delivery_status for the moderator added ? I think something like this ``` mailing_list.add_moderator(moderator.email, display_name=moderator.display_name) moderator = mailing_list._get_membership(moderator.email, 'moderator') prefs = moderator.preferences prefs['delivery_status'] = 'by_moderator' prefs.save() ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Aborted connection message in log in every 5 minutes

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/2/24 11:08 PM, erik(a)dante.de wrote: > > Do you know if this warning still happens in a version ≥2.0 of python3-sqlalchemy? This may be https://github.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy/issues/10893 which appears to be fixed in 2.0. > Do you know a workaround to generate less noise in the log files without disabling all MariaDB warning messages? We really use the NNTP gateway, turning that off is not an option. No, but I know nothing about MariaDB. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to Increase outgoing mail volume for Mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/9/24 10:43, Nelson Strother via Mailman-users wrote: > That is one of about five hundred lines that can be revealed by invoking: > > mailman@localhost:~$ mailman conf You can also find most of the defaults together with documentation at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/config/schema.… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Clean-up of non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/22/24 05:25, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > Perhaps you can make a feature request in gitlab? > And while at it, please add: mailman nonmembers LISTSPEC > With the later, it would be easier to delete non-members from the CLI as > well. Isn't this just `mailman members --role nonmember LISTSPEC`? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM2 to MM3 Archives Loading

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/11/24 17:22, Mailman Noob wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for the continuous replies! Yes, i am running django cron tasks. I can confirm that the daily jobs are being ran but still not fixing my issue. Restarting WSGI server also didn't fix the issue. Nothing in my logs. Have you tried running `django-admin clear_cache`? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: MTA setup

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/23/24 09:03, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > Update: After changing the DMARC settings messages are now going through to > my inbox, however they are still not being archived. Yes, that's always been a separate issue. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Suggestion on Mailing Lists page

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/24/24 04:36, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > It would be really useful if there was an indication next to each list if that > list required attention, eg an email awaiting moderation. This will be in Postorius 1.3.14. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html#news-1-3-14 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: MTA setup

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/24/24 09:33, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > Is the mailman lmtp runner a cron job? No. It is the process that receives incoming Mailman mail from the MTA. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Clean-up of non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/24/24 23:35, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now only if you can help me reconcile the fact that Postorius tells me that > I have > ``` > List Nonmembers (872) > > ``` > > ..while the CLI command gives me only 13 addresses. How are you invoking the `mailman nonmembers` command? I suspect it is not using the proper mailman.cfg. Does `mailman info` show the correct mailman.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Clean-up of non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On December 25, 2024 2:01:27 PM PST, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > members --role nonmember LISTSPEC | wc -l > 13 What do you get if you do ``` mailman shell -l LISTSPEC ... >>> len(list(m.nonmembers.members)) ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Feature request, hyperkitty, low volume lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/9/25 06:07, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > For an example see: > > https://fridayfolk.phcomp.co.uk/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announce@fridayfol… The above URL and also https://fridayfolk.phcomp.co.uk/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announce@fridayfol… and even https://fridayfolk.phcomp.co.uk/mailman3/hyperkitty/ all give a 500 internal server error response. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: m3 database sizing

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/22/25 6:22 AM, Alexander Inzinger-Zrock via Mailman-users wrote: > B) > has some empirical values and would like to share? mail.python.org has 195 lists with 53394 members. Its PostgerSQL database is currently 18 gigabytes. This includes HyperKitty archives, some of which are quite large. The hyperkitty_email table together with the hyperkitty_attachment table contain the contents of every message in the archive. lists.mailman3.org has only one significant list with 658 members and currently archives 2267 messages not counting this one. Its PostgerSQL database is currently 193 megabytes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3-web postorious error "invalid request block size: 14056 (max 4096)...skip"

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/28/25 09:15, Frederik via Mailman-users wrote: > > Any idea what could be wrong or how to debug this further? > > I'm using mailman3-full 3.3.8-2~deb12u2 and mailman3-web 0+20240312-1 packages. I have no ideas, but please see https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344 and report this to Debian. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Adding Mass Subscribe custom template error

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/29/25 09:41, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > Where can I find the setting > ``` > POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL > ``` It is in your Django settings. Where these are depends on your installation, but these are usually in files named settings.py and settings_local.py. If you installed following https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html the default is in mailman_web/settings/mailman.py but you would override the default in /etc/mailman3/settings.py -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Adding Mass Subscribe custom template error

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/29/25 11:58, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > > Bonus question: how should I calculate how many workers I should have on my > system? On lists.mailman3.org (server for this list) we use 4. on mail.python.org (server for about 200 lists) we use 6. Those numbers are pretty arbitrary. See https://docs.gunicorn.org/en/latest/design.html#how-many-workers for their recommendation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Occasionally "The content of this message was lost."

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/29/25 23:47, Frank Richter wrote: > Hello, > > occasionally we face the problem "The content of this message was lost." > when handling a message on hold. This is probably https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1162 [1] fixed by https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/1212/diffs to be release in Mailman core 3.3.10. [1] In particular, see https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1162#note_2113461048 for a fix for earlier releases. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: One-click unsubscribe?

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/4/25 20:24, Jered Floyd wrote: > > I'm having a lot of problems with GMail delivery due to lack of "one-click unsubscribe" -- however that is quantified, which is not clear. One other thing. Gmail in its, to paraphrase Steve, "enshittifiedness" while publishing a DMARC policy of none, treats mail From: gmail.com as though the DMARC policy is reject. This means you need to add `^.*(a)gmail\.com$` to your list's setting for DMARC Addresses (requires Postorius >= 1.3.9). -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Pck files stuck in out queue

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/6/25 17:07, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Lieuallen, Thomas Otis via Mailman-users writes: > > > I was getting the ‘Cannot connect to SMTP server’ message in > > mailman.log. > > I believe this is unrelated, but you should look into that. It is definitely related. That (very uninformative) message is logged once only after the out runner is started the first time calls the decorate handler and the handler can't access a template. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Heads up: settings.ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD is deprecated

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/7/25 03:19, Andreas Vetter wrote: > > Changing ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD to ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS in > /etc/mailman3/settings.py is not enough. One has to edit > venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailman_web/settings/mailman.py You can do this in /etc/mailman3/settings.py only without editing venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailman_web/settings/mailman.py by adding ``` del ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'email', 'username'} ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: REST API: potential bug

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/14/25 23:30, Peter Knowles via Mailman-users wrote: > > Basically providing the "mail_host" param, but leaving it empty causes the command to return successful, therefore creating an "empty" domain entry. > > Ideally the REST API should check to see if the param is empty, or for that matter "valid" before accepting it. > > Another test just run with "-d mail_host=test(a)test.com" also returned successful, therefore allowing an "invalid" domain. Thanks for reporting. I have filed https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1202 for this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: How To Install Mailman 3 on Debian 10 (Complete Guide)

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/24/25 20:38, Chandrakant Pandey via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, > Whether this instructions will work for Ubuntu 22.04/24.04 LTS version OS ? Probably, but we recommend https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Bug Report - REST API

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/3/25 10:13 PM, Peter Knowles via Mailman-users wrote: > OS: Debian 12 > Mailman Core: 3.3.10 > Install Method: venv > > When I apply the "count" and/or "page" param on: > > /3.1/lists/name.sub.domain.tld/requests > > This resulted in a "404 Not Found" error from the REST API. Bugs should be reported on the appropriate project's issue tracker on GitLab, https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/ in the case of Mailman core. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to process emails with Mailman3?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/11/25 4:30 AM, Kyle Lahnakoski wrote: > > I guess I will be parsing the message to find that recipient. Since you are doing this in a Python script anyway, just use Python's email library to parse the message and Python's smtplib to send the message to Mailman's LMTP runner. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: CSS Hyperkitty ERROR

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/17/25 6:46 PM, Johan Alsina via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, i installed mailman3 with virtualenv, all is working fine, the admin site works fine, the mailman(postorious) site works fine, but when im in hyperkitty the site shows without the css style.. in my web browser dev tool it shows like they loaded ok.. Have you run `mailman-web collectstatic` and `mailman-web compress`? See https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#collect-static-… If you have, try running them again as `mailman-web collectstatic --clear` and `mailman-web compress`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: settings.ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED is deprecated in allauth-65.5.0

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/17/25 6:11 PM, Andreas Vetter wrote: > > What would be the correct setting for the new > ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-web/-/blob/master/mailman_web/settings/m… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: CSS Hyperkitty ERROR

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/18/25 3:39 PM, Johan Alsina via Mailman-users wrote: > > Like i said before, i think the problem comes with the css files in /static/CACHE.. because the ones that are in /static/hyperkitty are loading ok.. See this thread: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… Some of that may be useful. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to change the showed URL/Domain of archives navbar?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/18/25 8:04 PM, Ulf R. wrote: > How can we set the other domain there? > I have tried to change the order of our two domains in the settings.py - without success. Our domains are: > lists-test.mydomain.de has SITE_ID = 1 > lists.mydomain.de has SITE_ID = 2 Set `SITE_ID = 2` in your settings.py. After making that change, you neet to restart whatever process (gunicorn, uwsgi, ?) that provides your WSGI interface. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Unsubscribe from a list

by Mark Sapiro

On March 24, 2025 3:38:10 PM GMT+07:00, pau.baiges(a)csuc.cat wrote: >Hello, >When a list member sends an email to list-leave@... to unsubscribe from a list, neither the moderators nor the list owners receive it. Only the person who sent the email receives a confirmation email. If you want admins to be notified of unsubscribes set Notify admin of membership changes to Yes. If you want admins to need to approve unsubscribes, see Odhiambo's reply. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Mark Sapiro

On March 25, 2025 2:57:25 AM GMT+07:00, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > >Is there a way to change those moderator e-mails to send right away? Does having user(a)example.com in the config affect that? In each list's settings under Automatic responses, set Admin immed notify to Yes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Disabling the version disclosure.

by Mark Sapiro

On March 25, 2025 5:18:13 PM GMT+07:00, ninad--- via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > >Please let me know if there are any settings that I can set. I don't want to change any html code for the same. There are no settings for this. To remove the version from Postorius footers you would need to edit postorius/templates/postorius/base.html and for Hyperkitty, hyperkitty/templates/hyperkitty/base.html For Mailman core, where are you seeing the version exposed? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/26/25 5:30 AM, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > > Who should the moderator e-mail come from when the moderator has to approve something? I have been searching the logs and cannot find that an e-mail for that exists. It is From: the listname-owner address and sent to the listname-owner address which then resends it to the actual owner and moderator addresses. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Unsubscribe from a list

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/25/25 7:41 PM, pau.baiges(a)csuc.cat wrote: > I can only see the subscription policy Then you must have Postorius < 1.3.3 which was released almost 5 years ago. The latest release is 1.3.13. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html - You should consider upgrading. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Mark Sapiro

On March 27, 2025 2:20:56 AM GMT+07:00, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: >Mark, can you clarify the part about (Postorius Admin immed notify is Yes)? Is that a separate setting than admin_immed_notify is True? If so , how do I check that setting. They are the same. The setting is admin_immed_notify which is a True/False setting. This setting is exposed in Postorius as a Yes/No setting called Admin immediately notify. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Debian 12: Following docs does not create /opt/mailman/web/xapian_index

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/1/25 10:04 AM, Philip Bondi wrote: > > When I try to search, I get this stack trace by email: > > > Exception Type: PermissionError at /archives/search > Exception Value: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/opt/mailman/web/xapian_index' > Raised during: hyperkitty.views.search.search > Request information: > USER: pjbondi Why is this not running as the Mailman user? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Change delivery_status in bulk

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/3/25 19:36, Hitashi mancho via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now, I am unable to locate any command or an API call through which I can > change the delivery_status back to enabled for 1000+ users. > > Can you please guide me on how I can do this programmatically using cli (I > will write a bash script) or using an API call? See the post at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… for a mailman shell interaction to do this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can't post to my own list from HyperKitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/6/25 17:30, MegaBrutal via Mailman-users wrote: >> > No, it doesn't say anything like that. It says if I'm not subscribed, > sending the message would subscribe me – no address is shown there at all. Compare your hyperkitty/templates/hyperkitty/fragments/send_as.html to https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/blob/master/hyperkitty/templates/hy… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Debian 12: Following docs does not create /opt/mailman/web/xapian_index

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/7/25 12:03, Philip Bondi wrote: > I'm logged into web interface as pjbondi when I try xapian search, and an email with this information is sent. What are the ownerships and permissions on /opt/mailman/web/xapian_index? they should be something like drwxrwxr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 7 12:00 xapian_index/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Info mails to list owners have "user@example.com" as from address (bounce score incremented)

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/25/25 02:50, Ulf R. wrote: > Hello, > mails to list owners with subjects like > <Mailaddress>'s bounce score incremented on <MyListName> > comes from "user(a)example.com". > Where is the right place to change this? We never defined this mail address anywhere. > Thank you very much! The setting you are looking for is `site_owner` in the `mailman` section of mailman.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: configuring postfix local recipient table

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/2/25 01:44, Alexander Inzinger-Zrock via Mailman-users wrote: > > we changed that during prior conversation [1] to make postmap command > available to user 'mailman' > > > from > configuration: python:mailman.config.postfix > > to > configuration: /etc/mailman3/postfix.cfg > > and contents are > > " > postmap_command: /usr/sbin/postmap > postmap_command: /usr/sbin/postmap > > " This needs more than that. it needs a [postfix] section header and a definition for transport_file_type. E.g. ``` [postfix] transport_file_type: hash postmap_command: /usr/sbin/postmap ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Exception when rendering certain emails ([Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error...)

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/5/25 06:18, Matt Blissett via Mailman-users wrote: > > Downgrading mistune as suggested has fixed the problem, thanks! > > I've made a pull request for the Docker image: https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman/pull/754 As I noted in the PR, the issue is https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/529 which is fixed for the next HyperKitty release. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty archive: date format in thread overview of list does not honor DATETIME_FORMAT of settings.py

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/26/25 3:54 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: > Maybe this page (https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/config-web.html) can be modified to point to a more recent version of the django docs? I'll fix that. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Masking email addresses in the archives

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/26/25 9:47 AM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > I must have missed this if it was ever discussed, but is it possible to > mask the list members' email addresses in the archives? See https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/508 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: list's RSS feed has wrong URLs (base path instead of subdomain)

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/27/25 10:48, Simone via Mailman-users wrote: > > I have set this up and it's working well so far, but today I noticed that links in list's RSS feed point to https://mydomain.tld, while mailman is running on https://lists.mydomain.tld. > > I wouldn't know how to fix this.. any hints? I'm not seeing this in, e.g., output from https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/feed/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Unable to update templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/27/25 23:09, Mark wrote: > > Where does Mailman core search for the file if the table entry is deleted? The search order is described in the docstring at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/utilities/i18n… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Threads by month dropdown

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/5/25 12:33, Sam Darwin via Mailman-users wrote: > > I believe it is not yet. Will make a note to investigate that. However, I think logging to /var/log/ is better than email, for system processes. Arguably it's not a system process, but rather a user cron. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: What is the best practice creating lists triggered by a another / second system?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/6/25 06:00, Christian Schneider wrote: > > On our old mailman-2.1 instance I used an ssh-tunnel and triggered the newlist-command with appropriate parameters. > This seems a little bit outdated to me - nowadays... ;-) Mahai has given a good response at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… but I don't think there is anything wrong with using an ssh-tunnel to execute a `mailman create` command. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: invite template customization

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/7/25 06:20, Christian via Mailman-users wrote: > Can someone please send me code for the invite template to bring in a brief > description of a mailing list to be subscribed to? Thank you in advance! The substitution you want is $description. How you want to use that in the template is up to you. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: mail loops back to myself

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/9/25 16:00, Florian Sukup wrote: > > I don't want to receive any emails like ...(a)host.xxx.com . So I thought > removing host.xxx.com from $mydestination is a good idea. Is there any > other solution for that? Actually, you probably don't need host.xxx.com in mydestination if you don't want to accept mail for that domain. Also you shouldn't need lists.yyy.com either as transport_maps handles that. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Stalwart plugin

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/10/25 07:24, Jörg Schulz via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi all, > I'm just reviewing Stalwart as a many-in-one mailing system. Did anybody yet succeed in plugging mailman into stalwart (the incoming bit seems to be difficult)? See https://github.com/ewdurbin/stalwart-mailman -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: mail loops back to myself

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/12/25 15:05, Florian Sukup wrote: > > I always restart mailman3 after changing main.cf I asked if you restarted/reloaded Postfix. I would assume that you had, but I'm at a loss to understand the issue, unless your /etc/postfix/master.cf is missing an uncommented entry for lmtp like ``` lmtp unix - - y - - lmtp ``` > if there is any interest, postfix_domains contains this line: > > lists.yyy.com lists.yyy.com That's as it should be. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Django-allauth compatibility (ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD and ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED)

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/16/25 15:26, Eggert Ehmke via Mailman-users wrote: > I have django-allauth 65.9.0 and still the same problem. mailman-web runjobs minutely throws it each minute, which is annoying. Do you have ``` ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'email', 'username'} ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS = ['email*', 'username*', 'password1*', 'password2*'] ``` in your django settings? What releases of HyperKitty, Postorius and Django-Mailman3 are you running? Current releases do not have any minutely jobs. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Block members from sending cc's and bcc's

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/23/25 13:07, Cathryn McGuire wrote: > cc.* (no space between cc and .*?). No. cc goes in the header box and only .* goes in the pattern box. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: redirecting -bounces replies

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/26/25 13:31, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > > Ah, I think that makes sense. So, add the alias domains here or through the CLI: Either way is good. > Oh, does the alias domain x.lists.hanc.info (etc) need to be resolvable in DNS, or will it be internal just to Mailman? No, it does not need to be resolvable in DNS. It is just internal to Postfix. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: redirecting -bounces replies

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/26/25 15:29, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > Well ... each list has 9 email addresses — the list address, the -bounces, the -confirm, the -join, the -leave, the -owner, the -request, the -subscribe and the -unsubscribe ... I think I'm around 4500 listservs right now..... 4500 lists is a lot, but not unheard of, but please don't call them listservs. See https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Caching problem with templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/28/25 20:22, Mark wrote: > > 3. What did work was removing the records in the file_cache table PLUS > removing the corresponding files in var/cache/*/*/* -- for example: > /opt/mailman/mm/var/cache/3a/2f/* > > This I was able to script in bash and cron to run every minute. A much simpler way to accomplish the same thing is to set cache_life: 1m in the [mailman] section of mailman.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Customize subjects

by Mark Sapiro

On July 14, 2025 10:55:56 AM EDT, "johannes.wolf--- via Mailman-users" <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >This text needs to be customized as we only have older users which need it in their native language (German). ;) If you set the list's preferred language to German, the subject should be translated. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman appears to send an email to a closed list, from a member who was removed from that list

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/18/25 11:07 AM, Andy Matthews wrote: > * I sent another mail FROM user-1 TO acme-closed, and received two emails. One showed what appears to be a successful send to the mailing list. What was the content of this message including all headers? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Relay Access Denied

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/22/25 11:11 AM, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > Mark, we would really like to use both lists.luc.edu and listservnew.luc.edu. Is that possible? I think you can do this and have it completely automated by following the setup at https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… and setting the alias domain of the listservnew.luc.edu to lists.luc.edu. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty error - not archiving

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/26/25 10:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > I had examined the message using 'mailman qfile', but did not see anything > obvious. > There were 3 files inside the spool/ directory. > I have just checked again and they are no longer there. If the files `disappeared`, they were eventually successfully delivered to HyperKitty. If you made no changes to mailman-hyperkitty.cfg, there was probably some transient network issue that caused the initial error. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: server/accounts/confirm-email/ lacks skinning (css)

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/25 18:06, Wikinaut wrote: > The newly installed mailman3 systems works, however the page accounts/confirm-email/ lacks the css. > > Can someone confirm my observation? Is there a fix? This is https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/86 fixed by https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/merge_requests/298 to be released with django-mailman3 1.3.16. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Held messages not delivered after approval

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/31/25 00:18, Stephan Krinetzki wrote: > > mailman members --regular --nomail enabled LISTSPEC > > Shows a lot of addresses - so all the members of the list don't recieve an mail, which explains the vanished mail. Next step: Enable the the mailing for them. `--nomail enabled` lists members with delivery enabled, not those with delivery disabled. See `mailman members --help` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Held messages not delivered after approval

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/1/25 01:22, Stephan Krinetzki wrote: > > Now to the files: > > mailman qfile /opt/mailman/var/queue/virgin/1736550035.6163204+472f81ece5e45a2651a4499bef418f611b43c619.pck.tmp ... > mailman qfile /opt/mailman/var/queue/shunt/1753912822.2651796+28eceef7e18eb70393377b88dc7117af8f9362a0.pck ... > mailman qfile /opt/mailman/var/queue/shunt/1753955094.900898+67bc76525412da66a7c76363f65f583989716305.pck What about -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 221708 Jul 30 13:16 1753874180.0845337+0cc7849043859a79dc3678a0d8b63c1c66df0c66.pck.tmp and -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 733425 Jul 31 00:00 1753912841.8847518+da55f8789ae41b75d19a02b595e3fd6d45983ade.pck.tmp from the out queue? And is the out queue being processed, i.e. messages in .pck files being delivered and the files being removed. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Migration of archives mailman2 to mailman3: python: can't open file '/opt/mailman/manage.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/10/25 12:40 PM, Wikinaut wrote: > Thank you very much. > > Shall I (or you?) fix that in the documentation, at least as third footnote? See the note in the first section at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: How can i suppress sending moderation mail to all owners?

by Mark Sapiro

On August 11, 2025 9:48:00 AM GMT, "Markus Grandpré" <markus.grandpre(a)uni-konstanz.de> wrote: > >How can I configure the list settings the way that emails intended for moderators are delivered only to them, and not to the owners/administrators of the list? You can't. You could modify code to do this either unconditionally or per list, but there is currently no configuration to do this. L -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Website 404 error

by Mark Sapiro

On August 11, 2025 1:06:18 PM GMT, peter(a)pi4cc.nl wrote: > >There's something strange, and I can't find a source/solution. >When I first access the website domain.nl/mailman3, it's redirected to domain.nl/mailman/postorius/lists/, resulting in a 404 error (3 after mailman is missing). >When I accessed it a second time with the same link (domain.nl/mailman3), I was redirected to domain.nl/mailman3/postorius/lists and the welcome page appeared. See the post at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> or perhaps the entire thread. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Column 'starting_email_id' cannot be null

by Mark Sapiro

On August 18, 2025 9:35:13 AM GMT, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > >It looks like you did not run some migrations. >However, because this is packaged Mailman3, I am not sure I know how to do >that. Django-admin migrate Where Django-admin is whatever the name of the Django admin command is. However, the primary support resource for the Debian/Ubuntu package is Debian. See <https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

11 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: cron error - /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web runjobs daily

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/19/25 2:21 PM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now I need to find a way for me to subscribe my email address as an > ordinary user for starters. This is refusing. What are you doing to subscribe? What is the reason given for refusal? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: [Bug] Someone not a member of list is treated as member - strange

by Mark Sapiro

On August 23, 2025 7:47:38 AM PDT, Wikinaut <mail(a)tgries.de> wrote: >Unfortunately not! In that case, I suspect the issue is that address1 and address2 are both associated with the same user. Go to <https://your.domain/mailman3/users> and search for address1 and manage that user to see all the associated addresses. If address1 and address2 are the same user, this behavior is expected. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

11 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Dependency nntplib not found

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/5/25 08:42, qno-mailman--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > I googled and found that module nntplib is no more part of python since python-3.13. How can i fullfill (or avoid?) this dependency? Mailman does not support Python 3.13 until Mailman 3.3.11 (not yet released). I'm not sure if there are other issues with Mailman 3.3.10 and Python 3.13 (I think not), but you can fix the missing nntplib dependency by doing ``` pip install standard-nntplib ``` in your venv. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Text/Markdown/HTML

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/9/25 13:39, Sam Darwin via Mailman-users wrote: > > Imagine the user experience when reading/writing a github issue and/or getting an email about it. There is some formatting, even if limited, such as code blocks. Users appreciate that in technical code discussions, and so it's a benefit. They may think "Why can't I use italics?" Allow basic formatting. Remove colors, font sizing, for example. Both GitHub and GitLab use Markdown formatting. So does HyperKitty if you enable it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problems with SPOOFED_UNAUTH

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/11/25 10:03, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I don't think Mark was suggesting that would help with the > SPOOFED_UNAUTH problem. I read his mail as saying that it needs to be > fixed because it breaks anonymous_list. Exactly. Issue is now reported at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1241 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/22/25 20:45, Nirmal J via Mailman-users wrote: > Sir, > The status is enable only. But still It is not coming mail to archives. Hereby I am attaching the screen shots of the status. Kindly help me in this regard. There are many possibilities for what the problem might be. The starting point is Mailman's mailman.log. What are the messages in this log for the time of posts to the list. Also, the versions of Mailman core, HyperKitty and mailman-hyperkitty might be relevant. What are they? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/25/25 22:29, Nirmal J wrote: > I have ensured that the IP Address of list1.iitm.ac.in is in the Mailman_Archiver_From List in settings. But still not working. Please help. You may also need variuos localhost IPs such as '127.0.0.1', '::1', '::ffff:127.0.0.1' What archiving failures do you now see in mailman.log? Do not post the entire log, just the relevant message(s). -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/26/25 02:58, Nirmal J via Mailman-users wrote: > > # SECURITY WARNING: keep the secret key used in production secret! > SECRET_KEY = redacted > MAILMAN_REST_API_PASS = redacted > MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY = redacted Now that you have publicly exposed the above secrets, you should change them and also change the api_key: setting in mailman-hyperkitty.cfg to match the value in MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: CSV Export in Postorius only export email addresses but no names

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/28/25 14:45, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, > > I want to export the addresses of a mailing list in Postorius. At the > List Members section I found 'CSV Export'. However it only exports the > email addresses without the names. Is there a trick to make this happen? This is https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/625 fixed for the next release by https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/merge_requests/993 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Reg Archive Inactive Status

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/28/25 21:47, Nirmal J via Mailman-users wrote: > mailman.log :- > ... > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 594, in increment > raise MaxRetryError(_pool, url, error or ResponseError(cause)) > urllib3.exceptions.MaxRetryError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='list1.iitm.ac.in', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive (Caused by SSLError(SSLCertVerificationError(1, '[SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed: unable to get local issuer certificate (_ssl.c:992)'))) Can you successfully go to https://list1.iitm.ac.in/hyperkitty/api/ in a web browser or with wget or curl? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Auto discard after max_days_to_hold not working.

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/30/25 00:59, Hitashi mancho via Mailman-users wrote: > > As you have mentioned about implementation of "Auto discard after > max_days_to_hold" in a next release. How do I install that release? To install from the head of the GitLab branch pip install git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman.git -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/9/25 9:04 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > There's https://wiki.list.org/DOC/ > I%20installed%20Mailman%20from%20a%20package%20or%20I%20followed%20a%20HowTo%20document.%20Where%20do%20I%20go%20for%20help%3F but there might be a shortened link for that I'm unaware of. On any of the pages at https://wiki.list.org/ there is a TinyURL link in the left column which when clicked will add a message with a short link to the top of the page. In this case, that short link is https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/10/25 10:29 AM, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > > Postorius Version 1.3.13, > /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings.py: FILTER_VHOST = True , however, this > is set for the whole server and not for single domains/sites, right? Right. > In my case mail_host is the same as web_host so I shouldn't be touched > by that problem anyway. What do you get from the following database query SELECT * from django_mailman3_maildomain JOIN django_site ON site_id = django_site.id; -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/10/25 1:47 PM, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > > :/var/lib/mailman3/data# sqlite3 mailman.db > SQLite version 3.46.1 2024-08-13 09:16:08 > Enter ".help" for usage hints. > sqlite> SELECT * from django_mailman3_maildomain JOIN django_site ON > site_id = django_site.id; > Parse error: no such table: django_mailman3_maildomain > sqlite> Is there a second database? Something like mailmanweb.db. If so, use that one. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Unprocessed Bounce Mails from user with e-mailadresse with a "-" in it

by Mark Sapiro

On October 13, 2025 3:37:36 PM PDT, Wikinaut <mail(a)tgries.de> wrote: >I do not see how this library understands German "out of office until...." messages, perhaps Mark can say something to it. Many links in that repository are also broken. Flufl-bounce doesn't recognize any out of office messages in any language because they aren't non-delivery notices. What links in <https://gitlab.com/warsaw/flufl.bounce/> are broken? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Password reset/confirm email page formatting

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/22/25 08:09, Liam Reilly wrote: > Thanks Thomas, received. > > Interesting it looks the same as mine. > > The official page does not have this problem: https://lists.mailman3.org/accounts/password/reset/done/ Because lists.mailman3.org and mail.python.org run the GitLab heads. Several of these issues are fixed for the next release of django-mailman3. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/84 https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/85 https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/86 https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/87 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/22/25 11:35, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now I'm struggling with uwsgi.ini. the default file uses mailman for user and group but the directories were created using www-data for group and user. I got that part fixed but now when I try to start mailmanweb, I get this error: > > !!! UNABLE to load uWSGI plugin: ./python3_plugin.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory https://askubuntu.com/questions/286699/uwsgi-with-python3-how-to-get-the-pl… may help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/24/25 10:19, Dennis Putnam via Mailman-users wrote: > > Do I need to specify a path somewhere? Sort of. What is the shebang line in /opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/gunicorn? It should be #!/opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/python I.e., it should point to the Python in your venv. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/26/25 08:31, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Sadly it is correct: > > #!/opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 > > $ ls -l /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman 16 Oct 18 16:32 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 -> /usr/bin/python3 Again, what is the content of /etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/25 11:55, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > Now when I try to access it (http://localhost/mailman) I get a 404 error. The correct url is http://localhost/mailman3 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Archive not working - Reg.

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 03:22, nirmal--- via Mailman-users wrote: > After sending mail to a list, it is not reflecting back in Hyperkitty archive. Kindly help me in this regard. Are there files in Mailman's var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ direrctory? What's in Mailman's var/logs/mailman.log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 08:39, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Mark: That is what I used. Sorry, I missed the 3 key. What's in your web server config to proxy Mailman requests? Whats in your venv's site-packages/mailman_web/urls.py? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Disable automatic bouncing globally?

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 09:25, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > Thanks as always Mark. Do I need to restart any services after I make that change? No. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On October 28, 2025 10:33:50 AM PDT, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >It should be in sites-enabled/ or conf-enabled/. Actually sites-enabled/mailman.conf should be a symlink to sites available/mailmen.conf. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 14:41, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > That should be added to the docs. In any case adding that symlink didn't help. What's in Apache's error.log? The doc assumes you will be adding to an existing *.conf for the site. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/29/25 10:02, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I moved the parameters into 000-default.conf which already exists. That didn't help either. The only other existing file is default-ssl.conf which doesn't seem like the appropriate place to me. Nothing interesting showed up in the error log: It may not be named error.log. look at all the relevant *error.log files in /var/log/apache2. You are looking for lines matching the pattern ` not (exist:|found) `. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: "Something went wrong | Mailman REST API not available. Please restart Mailman core.

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/29/25 15:40, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > Ah, thanks for the reply, Mark. Forgot to include Traceback: > > Traceback (most recent call last): ... Thanks. These are not the normal 'core isn't running' tracebacks which are `connection refused`. These seem to say that core is dropping the connection without a response. What's in mailman.log from these times? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/30/25 10:18, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > When I set up virtual host for 443, what should I set document root to? I currently have /var/www/html. /var/www/html is OK. It only matters for requests that don't match ProxyPass directives. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/30/25 08:26, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > The only files are access.log and error.log. Access.log contains as expected: > > 2600:1700:5cac:4600:5398:3572:2b43:6b41 - - [30/Oct/2025:09:58:57 -0400] "GET /mailman3 HTTP/1.1" 40 > 4 485 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:144.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/144.0" What about /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/error.log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: "Something went wrong | Mailman REST API not available. Please restart Mailman core.

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/30/25 08:05, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > > Good question ... Looks like it is 3.3.1 — so, wow — 5 years? Guess I will be updating these containers. Never done that before. Any advice? If you initially installed these https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/docker.html#mailman-3-in-docker…, see https://asynchronous.in/docker-mailman/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 10:13, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > See post from 10/28 at 5:25. If you want to refer to a prior post, it is much better to refer to it with a link to the archive, in this case https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 09:17, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > mm/var not var. Confusing. Anyway I found the logs. Here is the error.log > > [2025-10-31 15:12:04 +0000] [174276] [WARNING] Invalid request from ip=127.0.0.1: Invalid HTTP request line: 'ÿ > ôÿý\x06\x04' > > That looks like something is garbled up. Try setting loglevel = 'debug' in your gunicorn.conf and restarting gunicorn. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 12:19, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't think I understand. Are you saying the import (and the other commands) should be this: > > python mailman-web hyperkitty_import -l foo-list(a)example.com $var_prefix/archives/private/foo-list.mbox/foo-list.mbox With your venv active the command is just `mailman-web` not `python mailman-web` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/2/25 07:57, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Got it. Something else that needs to be added as an Ubuntu note. The following need to be enabled: > > sudo a2enmod proxy proxy_http proxy_balancer lbmethod_byrequests Actually, of the above, only proxy and proxy_http are enabled on the working systems I support. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/2/25 06:45, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > That seems to have worked. Thanks. Shouldn't that be documented as well? It (the name of the Django admin command) is documented in the Note in the first section of the top level doc at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web Cleaning Up a Few Issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/4/25 11:55, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I installed mailman-web 0.0.10 and that cleared up half the problem. The django-admin problem still exists. Do I need to create the directory /var/run/mailman3-web or should there be a different path specified somewhere? Did you see https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… Did you do the suggested grep? What does it find? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web Cleaning Up a Few Issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/25 09:47, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Thanks. I just decided to send the cron job output to /dev/null. I think you need to find the cause of those errors rather than ignoring them and potentially more serious ones. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: update problems in virtualenv

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/6/25 05:55, Lichtinger, Bernhard wrote: > > Is it safe to use latest from gitlab for production usage? Yes. Officially, we say it's beta quality, but we run it in production for this list and for hundreds of lists on mail.python.org. > With python-3.13 in Debian stable it would be nice if we could get a new relase of mailman3 with all the fixes for python-3.13. We know, but the release manager is an unpaid volunteer with a day job. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web Cleaning Up a Few Issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/6/25 08:27, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > When I said mailman3 I did not mean it was installed outside of venv. My bad. Sorry. You should still do sudo apt list mailman3 mailman3-web mailman3-full mailman3-doc to see if any of those packages is installed. I don't know how the /etc/cron.d/mailman3-web crontab would have been created except by installation of one of those packages. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/7/25 08:47, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Now that I THINK all the other issues are resolved I can get back to this. I can't answer your questions. I can't explain it unless django came already already installed with Ubuntu server.There is 'python3-django' installed outside of the venv. Can I simply remove it? Yes, you can remove it. I expect it got there as a dependency of mailman3-web which it appears was at some time installed and then removed but not purged. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/7/25 10:11, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't know what package installed that but I'm guessing came with python3. I don't think so it would not be installed as part of python3 or python3-dev. There are multiple things in these threads that strongly suggest that at some point `apt install mailman3-web` was done. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 09:06, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Arrrgggggg!!!! This is so frustrating: > > $ mailman create --domain --owner uuuuu(a)dddddddd.net lllllllllllll(a)dddddddd.net --domain is the default and --owner is not necessary as the owner(s) will be imported from the MM 2.1 list. > Error: List already exists: lllllllllllll(a)dddddddd.net And what does `mailman info` show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 09:24, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I am assuming the 's' is a typo as there is no table mailinglists. Yes, sorry. > mysql> select list_name from mailinglist; > Empty set (0.00 sec) > > $ ls -l /opt/mailman/mm/var/lists > total 0 I'm still waiting for a response to https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 13:11, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I did the create and it says it was created. I guess that means I blew it away correctly. However, it still does not show up in the db: What does `mailman info` now show for the database? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Xapian alternatives

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/10/25 21:15, Mark Labeste via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi Mark, Do you have documentation how to use Xapian in MM3? https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setting-up-full… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/25 10:18, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > This wouldn't have anything to do with the fact I am using a self signed certificate, would it? It could, but I think only if when you POST the login your browser complains about the certificate and you have to OK it before it posts the request. Such a scenario might lose the cookie. Otherwise, I don't think so. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postfix Hooks and Fetchmail

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/14/25 11:46, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I think I may have the aliases wrong based on what fetchmail is doing. Can I send you a PM with the unsanitized fetchmail info? Yes. Also include the contents of the /opt/mailman/var/data/postfix_* files. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months

[MM3-users] Re: is anyone here?

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/20/25 8:38 AM, alain williams wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 01:52:09PM +0000, James Greig wrote: > > 👋 And, if you go to https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/ you'll see this list is quite active. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Finding all held messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/28/25 5:43 PM, Peter Chubb via Mailman-users wrote: > > Hi Folks, > Is there a way from the Web UI to find all lists with held > messages? In the next release of Postorius The count of members, held messages and held subscription requests is displayed in the list overview page, but until then, No. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html#news-1-3-14 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Internal Server Errors in mailmanweb.log

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/18/25 03:07, Washington Odhiambo via Mailman-users wrote: > I keep seeing several errors like the below in my mailmanweb.log and not > sure what the causa is. What is your HyperKitty version? If it is 1.3.12 from PyPI and not the latest from gitlab, See https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/529 and https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/660 for a patch to fix this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Run Web Frontend

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/26/25 07:25, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > If it becomes impossible I will switch back to mailman2 which works on my CentOS system. This is a viable solution, but depending on your CentOS version, you may need to install Python 2 from source. See https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-2718/ Much of your issue with Mailman 3 is because in MM 3, mail delivery to Mailman is different and list names include the domain. This prevents things which worked in your MM 2 configuration from working in MM 3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Change Member's Address

by Mark Sapiro

On January 15, 2026 8:54:27 AM PST, dap1--- via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >https://whatever/django/auth/user/ page not found My bad. As Odhiambo says, those URLs should be https://whatever/admin/..., not https://whatever/django/... -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Change Member's Address

by Mark Sapiro

On January 15, 2026 9:00:52 AM PST, dap1--- via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >I think we can wrap this up. Magically the original superuser is now showing confirmed and seems to work. The only remaining issue is the from header showing up as lllllllll.bounces rather than just llllllll. What is the exact From: header? Does your mailman/handlers/dmarc.py look like <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/handlers/dmarc…>? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Domain defaults for new lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/29/26 15:43, Peter Chubb via Mailman-users wrote: > > Thanks Mark --- how do I make that the default though? in the [styles] section in mailman.cfg set default: private-default -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Phantom Email Address in Nonmember List

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/31/26 15:13, Steve Brown via Mailman-users wrote: > The good news is that I now know what "grepping" is. Am I correct that I cannot do that as a mere list manager and not a Mailman3 platform operator with Linux? One needs shell access to the server and permission to read log files. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Permissions Error on /var/mail/mailman

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/3/26 11:47, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > I assume you meant sudo chown mailman /var/mail/mailman. Yes, That's what I meant. After you do that, any further such messages should be delivered to that mbox where you can see what they are. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Issues with Mail delivery after Mailman 3 installation

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/4/26 02:21, Chihurumnaya Ibiam via Mailman-users wrote: > > You're right about "localhost" causing confusion, I switched to using the > IP address instead, the logs > showed that Mailman tried to connect on [::1] and there wasn't a response, > that might be from Mailman itself though as the > port is open. > > I don't have a preference for IPv6. Edit /etc/hosts and change the `localhost` entry from ::1 to 127.0.0.1 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman and Postfix Conflicting Information

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/6/26 10:06, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Yes, I see this: > > 2026-02-06T10:33:49.632822-05:00 dap002 postfix/lmtp[185616]: 7304C500071: to=<lllllllll(a)gmail.com>, relay=127.0.0.1[12 > 7.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.17, delays=0.09/0.02/0/0.06, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) So the mail is delivered to Mailman's lmtp runner as it should be. What's in mailman.log and smtp.log? You can get a bit more log info by setting ``` [logging.smtp] level: debug ``` in mailman.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman and Postfix Conflicting Information

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/8/26 09:03, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > A bounce was logged for each list member. Yes, I do get a bounce notice as list owner but that goes via the default relay rather than gmail. So the issue is not with Mailman per se. What MTA is bouncing the messages and for what reason? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Issues with Mail delivery after Mailman 3 installation

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/9/26 12:17, Ibiam Chihurumnaya via Mailman-users wrote: > It would be great if mailman can ban domains and not just users, just noticed a flurry of spam from a particular domain. It can. Entries in the ban list can be addresses or regexps beginning with ^ that match addresses such as ^.*[@.]example.com$ to match any address in the example.com domain or a subdomain thereof. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Confirmation emails aren't sent to users.

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/13/26 12:41, Ibiam Chihurumnaya via Mailman-users wrote: > Makes sense, I didn't think I needed to. > > Couldn't see them with mailman conf though. Mailman conf only shows Mailman core settings - defaults and things you set in mailman.cfg. It doesn't know about any Django settings. To see the Django settings that differ from default values use django-admin diffsettings To see all settings with defaults flagged with ### use django-admin diffsettings --all -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Confirmation emails aren't sent to users.

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/14/26 01:04, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > `mailman-web diffsettings` also works. (As far as I know > `mailman-web` is effectively an alias for django-admin.) Actually, in our recommended virtualenv install mailman-web is preferred because django-admin doesn't load /etc/mailman3/settings.py by default. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Receiving Email from ListName-bounce@Domain for Unsubcribe

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/26 13:55, Marin Sok via Mailman-users wrote: > > Should I try to modify the code in file notifications.py in line 137. You could change that line from address, mlist.bounces_address, to address, mlist.owner_address, if you feel it's important. I will probably do something about https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1260 so it will be fixed for the next release. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Error After Posted Message in Archive

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/20/26 14:48, msok--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi All, > > After I started a new threat and posted message, I received an error. > Where should I take a look into this issue? What was the error you received? Depending on the error you may find information in Mailman core's mailman.log or in Django's logs. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: config_list in Mailman3?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/2/26 20:18, John Price via Mailman-users wrote: > Is there a way to do this in Mailman3? > > # Mailman2 backup individual list config > # $list = list name > # writes config to mailman.cfg > $MAILMAN_ROOT/bin/config_list -o mailman.cfg $list Not at present. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1182> and <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/13>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: How to upgrade to 3.10

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/7/26 17:02, Paul Tomblin via Mailman-users wrote: > > Ok, I've done those, and the migrate, compress, collectstatic. Where does base_url get set? base_url is an attribute of the domain and can be set in Postorius in the domains view. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Reset bounce count in MM3

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/8/26 17:20, iMark wrote: > Hi, > > Is there an equivalent of Mailman 2's "bin/reset_bounce.py" in Mailman 3 ? reset_bounce.py is not part of Mailman 2.1. It is one of my scripts <https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/reset_bounce.py>. Currently there is no Mailman3 equivalent. It wouldn't be hard to make one, but I haven't done so yet. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Django 5.2 LTS and mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/13/26 09:09, via Mailman-users wrote: > Let me expand on this, in that I am failing to get django 5.2 and mailman 3 components to work together in a python3.12 venv. Specifically, despite PIP looking like it understands that the requirements indicate that the allowable range for it's dependency on django is <5.3, pip uninstalls 5.2 and puts in 5.0.14 You have to also install django-mailman3 and hyperkitty from Gitlab as the released versions of these require django>=4.2,<5.1 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months

[MM3-users] Re: list not found

by Mark Sapiro

Thomas Krichel wrote: > cp $qdir/bad/$psv_bana $qdir/in/$pck_bana The message shouldn't always go to the `in` queue. The second object in the pickled file is the message metadata and it normally contains a `whichq` item which says which queue it should be restored to. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/commands/cli_u…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months

[MM3-users] Re: alembic version

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/17/26 03:24, Thomas Krichel wrote: > > (venv) mailman@darni:/usr/local/mailman$ alembic -c /usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/mailman/config/alembic.cfg history > FAILED: No 'script_location' key found in configuration. That was my error. The path to the config above was missing the site-packages directory. If I divined the correct Debian package location it should have been /usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/mailman/config/alembic.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Registration mail is not sent

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/23/26 4:39 AM, Christian H. Kuhn via Mailman-users wrote: > > i got mailman-web up and runnung. Wanted to registrate the main user. > Got an error ("Bei der Verarbeitung Ihrer Anfrage ist ein Fehler > aufgetreten."). In the logs of postfix, i could see the connection from > mailman to postfix, but no mail was transmitted to postfix. How could i > repair this? This seems to be a Postfix issue. Was there any additional information in the Postfix logs? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: broken route to accounts

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/26/26 3:14 PM, Thomas Krichel wrote: > Stephen J. Turnbull writes >> >> You have to tell us what's in that file. > > I don't seem to have a file by that name > > root@darni ~ # find / -name mailman_web.urls > find: ‘/proc/2166017’: No such file or directory > root@darni ~ # mailman_web.urls is a Python path. The file is mailman_web/urls.py -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Why is it so difficult to setup Mailman3?

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/9/26 09:09, htfoot--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Has anybody successfully installed Mailman2 using Python 3? (3.12.3) I'm getting errors during configuration that are beyond my dabbler's knowledge of python to resolve. cPanel has forked Mailman 2.1 (they call it 2.2) to run under Python 3. Even after presumably testing it, they had several more issues after they released it. This is an indication of the magnitude of the task. I'm not aware of anyone else who's tried. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Command Emails not Working

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/22/26 08:47, Brinson, Jason T via Mailman-users wrote: > Hello, > > I have an issue where command emails (-join, -request, etc.) are getting routed to the list itself (and being moderated). What's in your Postfix mail.log for these messages? Whats in Mailman's var/data/postfix_lmtp and var/data/postfix_vmap files? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: How to debug bounces?

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/7/26 07:39, Stephen Daniel wrote: > > How do I debug this? Can I see the text of any of the bounce messages to > understand why the emails bounced? > > This issue might stem from my running somewhat old software. Currently > running mailman 3.3.5. I understand you have now seen more info in the MTA logs, but actually beginning with Mailman 3.3.5, list owner notifications sent on disabling delivery or incrementing bounce score when the list's bounce_notify_owner_on_disable or bounce_notify_owner_on_bounce_increment settings are true will contain the bounce DSN. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Possibly more a Postfix question than a mailman one one but...

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/12/26 3:03 PM, Paul Tomblin via Mailman-users wrote: > > Can i append or pre-pend another transport file in the transport_maps listing and put in the entry for this domain that's been bouncing people off my list because of too many simultaneous connections? I don't know what the transport for this domain would be, but the transport_maps setting can contain any number of lookup tables. See <https://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#transport_maps>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Possibly more a Postfix question than a mailman one one but...

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/12/26 3:54 PM, Paul Tomblin via Mailman-users wrote: > > Then you put an entry in your transport map like so: > example.com slow_smtp: so you could put that line in a file like /path/to/name and process it with ``` postmap hash:/path/to/name ``` and then change your transport_maps setting from ``` transport_maps = hash:/opt/mailman/mm/var/data/postfix_lmtp ``` to ``` transport_maps = hash:/opt/mailman/mm/var/data/postfix_lmtp hash:/path/to/name ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mass subscription: HTTP Error 400: 'pathlib._local.PosixPath' object does not support the context manager protocol

by Mark Sapiro

On June 23, 2026 2:11:59 AM PDT, Flo via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >Hi, > >Debian trixie, virtualenv installation: When I entered addresses at the mass subscription field I got: > >HTTP Error 400: 'pathlib._local.PosixPath' object does not support the context manager protocol Current Mailman does not support python 3.14. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 month, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: mailman command line?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/23/26 2:13 PM, Paul Tomblin via Mailman-users wrote: > > But if I type `mailman -h`, as it says in that page, I get a massive stack dump starting with This is a known issue. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/work_items/1264>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Can disabled users enable themself?

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/4/26 6:13 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > On the other hand, if Mailman sends mail to your user for > any reason, and it does *not* bounce, they will be re-enabled > automatically. I don't think this is correct unless you have some local modification to do this. Even then, how would it work? A bounce might come from downstream MTA and possibly not for days. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Nested lists possible

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/9/26 11:28, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > > I have already put the inner list as member of the general list and it > works, however, the subject includes both prefixes and there are also > both footers. So, the result is not really acceptable. > > Are there any other possibilities? Mailman 2.1 had a regular_include_lists feature that would allow specifying another list whose members would receive posts to this list. I think that is what you are looking for. Unfortunately, that feature has not yet been implemented in Mailman 3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Odd behavior: notifications for list membership, etc. from "owner user" sent as "owner user"?

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/10/26 10:14, Thomas Ward wrote: > > That introduces a problem too... the list-owner is *also* the site owner > mailman(a)example.com. No. My patch will make the address literally `list-owner@...`, not the owner's actual address. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Find all mailing lists a user is subscribed to

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/10/26 11:57, Rodolfo Pilas via Mailman-users wrote: > > Is there a supported way (CLI, REST API, or Postorius) to retrieve all the > mailing lists a particular email address is subscribed to, without having > to inspect every list individually? In Postorius go to <https://example.com/mailman3/users> (or just click Users in the top nav bar), find the user and click Manage. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Using Hyperkitty to Create Archive from mbox file

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/15/26 13:26, jason(a)glazer350.com wrote: > > I am most impressed by the layout and usability of Hyperkitty archives and would like to go that route if it is not too difficult. What would I need to do to take the mbox archive from a mailing list and convert it into an archive using Hyperkitty? The django admin command hyperkitty_import does exactly that. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/blob/master/hyperkitty/management/c…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month

[MM3-users] Re: New attack in progress

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/4/26 5:35 PM, Jered Floyd wrote: > > I looked into the debian patches for recaptcha, got frustrated, and deployed Anubis in a container in front of my Mailman instances. It took under an hour to learn, install, and test... as long as you're not allergic to catgirls it's the easiest solution. However it precludes accessing Mailman from a non-javascript enabled browser. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 week, 4 days

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius password resets

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/20 9:24 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> On 10/14/20 11:11 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > >>> I am having an issue with our system where password resets are giving the users an email with a http://localhost:8000 URL. I have made sure settings in settings_local.py (and even settings.py) are as follows: >>> >>> POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL = 'https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org' > >> This is not relevant. > > Does it need resetting back to http://localhost:8000? Not if it works. Most likely either one is OK, but localhost:8000 avoids a DNS lookup an proxying through the web server. >>> However emails are still coming through with the wrong URL. > >> I'm not sure offhand, but it's either domains in Postorius or sites in the django admin UI. > > I've checked both and cannot see any errors (I just have the one site lists.hodgsonfamily.org) and nothing is empty which seems as though it needs filling in. What's in `sites` and what's in `Mail domains` in the django admin UI and what's in Web Host in the Postorius domains view - in particular, if you have Postorius 1.3.3, what's the SITE_ID, and what's SITE_ID in settings(_local).py. Also, when you go to the archive UI, whats the domain at the top left of the pages. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: hyperkitty failed to create a thread

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/11/19 9:47 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > What could be a reason of HyperKitty failing to create a thread from > chained emails? > > For example, see "RECENTLY ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS" on page > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/ > > "Openvpn and Network mapping" discussion displayed as five threads instead > of only one... > > Any ideas how to improve HyperKitty ability to detect threaded messages? Thanks for the report. The MR at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/merge_requests/125> will fix this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Core, Hyperkitty and Postorius releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/14/21 5:02 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:52 PM Jeff Steele <jeff(a)steele.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On May 14, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> /bin/sh: sass: Permission denied* >> >> >> >> Did you check the permissions on your sass binary? >> > > My mailman installed in /opt/mailman/mm > > find /opt/mailman/ -type f -name sass > > yielded nothing! Try `which sass` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 generates long lines?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/23/21 7:45 AM, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Thanks Mark, that's what I did. After the restart I needed to activate > it on a per-list basis. > > However, I'd prefer to be able to do that on global basis. Not a big > issue, but still thought it worth asking. You can do it with a `mailman shell` script. Something like ``` >>> for mlist in getUtility(IListManager).mailing_lists: ... for archiver in IListArchiverSet(mlist).archivers: ... if archiver.name == 'prototype': ... archiver.is_enabled = True ... >>> commit() ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Setup Question: Disk-Layout (Migrating from Mailman 2.1)

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/17/25 3:18 AM, christian.schneider(a)tu-dortmund.de wrote: > > But I could find no information about the location where hyperkitty stores the archives on an Ubuntu-/Linux-system. > I assume the archives are stored underneath "/var/..." this is only a guess. > But is this guess right? As answered in other replies, HyperKitty stores its archives in tables in the configured database. However, if the prototype archiver is enabled, those archives are stored in maildir format in Mailman's var/archives/prototype/ directory. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/25 14:28, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > True. But putting a file inside sites-enabled/ or conf-enabled/ still > achieves the same result. > Apache's a2ensite/a2enmod will create the symlinks in the *-enabled/ > subdirs, but putting files in there, with the right extensions still does > it. Yes it works, but it also breaks a2(en|dis)(site|mod|conf) functionality for that site/mod/conf. Configurations should always be in a *-available/ directory with symlinks in the corresponding *-enabled/ directory so that the tools work as advertised. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 09/23/2017 07:36 AM, David Krantz wrote: > Still two problems: > > 1. I do not know how to force a cache invalidation on a template. So > only way to change is to set a new name on the file and change the uri > there. Unpractical. No, restarts do not work. Have you tried restarting/reloading whatever dbm (MySQL, PostgreSQL, ?) you are using? > 2. the $user_delivered_to and $user_email do not expand for some > reason. Known problem? These require that the list delivery be personalized. See <http://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/runners/docs/outgoing.h…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 10 months

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