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[MM3-users] Re: Five Year Old Issue

by Mark Sapiro

It turns out Abhilash had done all the heavy lifting on this [1] but I didn't realize it because [2] hadn't been done. Since the rest was easy, [3] now fixes it. [1] https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/779 [2] https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/796 [3] https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/795 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Five Year Old Issue

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/14/21 5:51 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: >> > So this means the fix will show up in the next stable release? Yes, the fix is committed to gitlab and will be in the next release of Mailman core to PyPI. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: statistics monitoring for Mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/15/21 9:57 AM, Seth Seeger wrote: > > My wife fixed it! f-strings don't show up until Python 3.6. She rewrote the two print statements as: > > print(' ' + lname + ': ' + str(tot)) I would have written ``` print(' {}: {}'.format(lname, tot)) ``` but what she did is OK too. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: CC header

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/18/21 10:58 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > Can the 'cc' header be used for setting up a header filter via Postorius? > Yes. Header filters can be set on any header. You specify the header to match on and the regexp to match with. The header can be anything, even say `x-never-heard-of` in which case the match will be against any `X-Never-Heard-Of:` (case insensitive) header that happens to be in the message -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: only show mail domains from web host on web-host-url

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/18/21 9:20 AM, jens.guenther(a)posteo.de wrote: > Is it possible, to only show publicly (if advertised) these lists on a certain url, that are corresponding to the web host the url I accessed mailman through? Set FILTER_VHOST = True in your settings_local.py or where ever you put your site Django settings. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Problem with redirection when entering alias without a / at the end

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/19/21 4:10 PM, Jens Günther wrote: > I did have the first setting, yes. > > The second one no, but activated it now, no change. I suspect this issue has something to do with the uwsgi configuration, but I'm sorry that I can't help with that as I have no experience with uwsgi - I've only used gunicorn and Apache mod_wsgi. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Problem with redirection when entering alias without a / at the end

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/20/21 1:38 AM, Jens Günther wrote: > Mh, actually I don't know, what you mean. I only do have one config-file > and that's the one I posted :-( I'm sorry, that was my confusion. I see now that the file you posted is what we are looking for. What's in the wsgi.py file referenced in that config? That may help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Rejection Reason for refusing a subscription request

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/27/21 3:29 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > I guess Brian was asking about Subscription Requests. Ooops, Abhilash is correct. I have a bad habit of focusing on what's in the body of a post and sometimes missing relevant info in the subject. Sorry. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years

[MM3-users] Re: Rejection Reason for refusing a subscription request

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/27/21 3:42 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > I am referring to "Subscriptions pending approval". I apologize if I did > not make that clear. You can specify a reject reason for rejecting a subscription pending approval via REST since Core 3.3.3. You will be able to do so in Postorius with the next release (1.3.5). If that's not the answer you're looking for, you'll have to explain the question in more detail. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years

[MM3-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Database deadlock when trying to delete a member.

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/8/21 6:04 PM, Simon Coggins wrote: > I’ve been running with this change as you suggested for a few weeks now in our test environment and I’ve not hit any issues. So this fixes my problem. Will this change be added to mailman core or should I look at manually patching during my upgrades? The fix is at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/811> and will be in the next (3.3.5) release of core. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years

[MM3-users] Re: user mail not accepted

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/26/21 5:41 PM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote: > No. there was no response received by the user a la "results of your email > commands" > message. Simply the original email sent to the list. I would still like to see the complete raw message as received by the user. That's the only thing that can tell me how it got to that user and provide clues as to why it didn't go to the other list members. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'settings'

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/11/21 6:43 AM, Jeff wrote: > I found a work around for the problem with the missing settings module. I modified: > > /etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service > > to add the PYTHONPATH environmental variable: > > [Service] > Environment="PYTHONPATH=/etc/mailman3/" > User=mailman > Group=mailman > ExecStart=/usr/local/mailman3/bin/uwsgi --ini /etc/mailman3/uwsgi.ini > > > Now it starts up fine: That is the appropriate solution. I've updated the doc. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty download mbox

by Mark Sapiro

I received the mbox from Andrew. The issue is reported at https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/382 and fixed for the next HyperKitty release by https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/346 This fix only fixes hyperkitty_import to not create these unexportable messages in the archive. It does nothing about such messages that have already been added to HyperKitty. That issue is reported at https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/383 and fixed for the next HyperKitty release by https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/347 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Core, Hyperkitty and Postorius releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/14/21 1:10 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > Adding headers is a trivial thing though. If you find one missing on any > project please feel free to submit a MR to fix that. It can be done after > the release has been made too. See this[1] that Mark just made to fix > it for Postorius. > > [1]: https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/merge_requests/636/diffs > And https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/348/diffs for hyperkitty -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Core, Hyperkitty and Postorius releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/14/21 1:54 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > /usr/local/include/sass > > That is the only thing found that is in the base system. And that's the one you want. What is it's mode? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Core, Hyperkitty and Postorius releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/14/21 2:52 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Do I need to install sassc in the base OS or in the virtualenv? Have you checked `which sassc` to see if you don't already have it. It doesn't matter whether it's in the base OS or the virtualenv. Things running in the virtualenv can still access the base OS, just not vice versa. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: OS upgrade - anything to take care of?

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/15/21 12:00 AM, Torge Riedel wrote: > > By the way: My instructions still list django-paintstore to be installed > for the web part. I remember that on this list it is mentioned to be no > more required. Is this correct. django-paintstore is not required. If you still have it in INSTALLED_APPS in your Django settings, you can remove it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: New Mailman 3 installation issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/18/21 1:50 PM, Sarah H wrote: > I had run the first 2, but not the third. I'm getting proper page loads after running compress! I'm going to migrate all of my remaining lists to the new server and muck about but it looks like it's working now! Good! I have added the compress command (and also compilemessages) to the doc https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#compress-css-fi… Sorry about the omission. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Unknown attribute: process_bounces

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/21/21 4:40 AM, xlefloch--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Indeed, I don't remember seeing this requirement when updating Postorius. > Thanks a lot! See the Warning box at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/upgrade-3.2.html#virtualenv-install -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Getting connection timed out

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/22/21 3:34 PM, blackout69 wrote: > I had already checked with the telnet command on port 25 and everything > is fine. Can you successfully telnet to port 25 on mail.simail.it from the Mailman server? > In this case, what strategy do you recommend? If you can connect (via telnet) to port 25 on mail.simail.it from the Mailman server, then I'd suggest stopping and restarting Postfix. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Intermittent: pymysql.err.InternalError: Packet sequence number wrong - got 102 expected 77

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/24/21 10:48 AM, Torge Riedel wrote: > > Uh, I don't know why the format of my mail is totally messed up ... > sorry for that. It appears that you may have created a `rich text` (HTML) email and your MUA created a text/plain alternative which wrapped and filled the message body. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to identify the exact reason behind the shunting of the mails ?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/17/21 6:56 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > > Is there any chance to find out the reason for shunting of the > mails through any means ? > Look in Mailman's var/logs/mailman.log for the tracebacks associated with the shunted messages. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: changing the main template for subscriptions and more

by Mark Sapiro

On June 21, 2021 10:03:50 AM CDT, "Jens Günther" <jens.guenther(a)posteo.de> wrote: > >How can I change the template for all the lists (respectively >maildomains/webdomains) so that I don't have to do this manually for >all >lists? To set a template as default for all lists and domains, put it in Mailman's var/templates/site/LC directory. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

3 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Bounce Score

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/21/21 1:07 PM, Jeff wrote: > Is there an easy way to determine a list member’s bounce score and/or reset that to zero? For a list member or list admin, the answer is generally No. If the user's delivery is disabled by bounce, the user or list admin can set it enabled in Postorius, but that's it. A site admin can see these things via `mailman shell`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to secure LMTP transport?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/30/21 5:04 AM, Adam Minski wrote: > Hello, > > what is recommended to secure traffic to LMTP port 8024 by SSL/TLS? Mailman's LMTP runner used the aiosmtpd package to support LMTP. See https://aiosmtpd.readthedocs.io/en/latest/smtp.html#enabling-starttls for documentation of how to support TLS. You would have to modify mailman/runners/lmtp.py. We would consider an appropriate merge request at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Editing a Subscriber's Mailman 3 list Settings

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/1/21 12:28 PM, Terry Earley wrote: > Postorius Version 1.1.2 Which was released in December, 2017. I don't offhand know which version fixed it, but I'm sure it's been fixed. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: migration

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/30/21 1:07 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > > Ok. I guess first I've got to figure out where the database lives. > I've not been hacking on mm3, just using it. What's in the [database] section of your mailman.cfg? and the DATABASES definition of your Django local settings. The database is managed by some database manager. If it is Postgres or MySQL/MariaDB, there are actual database servers. If it is the default SQLite, it's probably Mailman's var/data/mailman.db -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: remove non members from a list

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/6/21 9:48 AM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > > It's not functioning. It says: > > "AttributeError: 'MemberRoster' object has no attribute 'nonmembers'" Sorry, that was a typo on my part. It should be >>> for nonmember in m.nonmembers.members: ... nonmember.unsubscribe() ... >>> commit() -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cross-List and Domain based sender whitelisting ( accept_these_nonmembers )

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/8/21 3:39 PM, Patrick Brückner wrote: > > What I can't seem to find is the option to whitelist senders based on a domain AND on membership on a different list. As Abhilash said, Mailman 3 accepts regexps in accept_these_nonmembers for whitelisting domains. Currently Mailman 3 does not support whitelisting the members of another list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 subscribe over command line

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/16/21 2:35 AM, tibor.molnar(a)waltoninstitute.ie wrote: > I would be looking to be able to subscribe people to multiple lists through command line. Mailman 2.1 did have an add_members script we used but I'm not able to use this module in mailman3. Can anyone suggest a script or approach to this issue? See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/d… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: very few moderation capabilities for moderators

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/18/21 11:56 AM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > > Just a one more silly question: > > Where do I can find the diferent values that memb.moderation_action can > take? (I want to prepare the "unhold" script too) https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/interfaces/act… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Centralizing logging

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/29/21 4:51 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > However, there is this process that *forced* me to create > usr/local/mailman/*logs/mailmansuite.log > *as opposed to it just writing to var/logs/ path above > > Is there a way to make it write its log $var_dir ? This is Django's log. Django knows nothing about mailman.cfg which is for core only. You can set the path in your Django settings. See LOGGING['handlers']['file']['filename'] I deal with this by creating a symlink like /usr/local/mailman/logs -> /usr/local/mailman/var/logs -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius web issues after upgrading mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/13/21 8:23 AM, Tibor Molnar wrote: > > The postorius web page is working ok for me, I'm only having issues with the hyperkitty pages. I have lookaed at the file you suggested me to download but I already have that in the correct place. What does the alias for /static/ in your web server point to? What does diff -r dir1 dir2 show where dir1 is the hyperkitty subdirectory in the above directory and dir2 is the hyperkitty/static/hyperkitty in your Mailman installation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /mailman3/accounts/XXXXX/login/

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/22/21 2:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Where XXXXX from the subject implies github|fedora|openid|gitlab, etc, I > edited my settings.py and removed those references to socialaccount auth > providers, except google: Did you also remove them from SOCIALACCOUNT_PROVIDERS? Did you remove them from Social Accounts › Social applications in the Django admin UI? Do the buttons for the other providers show up in the web ui? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: uncaught bounce messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/23/21 4:23 PM, David Bremner wrote: >> This particular machine is running debian oldstable, so things are a bit >> out of date. mailman-core is 3.2.1 and flufl.bounce is 3.0. I'll look >> into upgrading at least flufl.bounce. > > Oh. It's actually 3.0.1. Still not new enough, but 3 years newer. I don't think it's a flufl.bounce issue. I think it's a Mailman 3.2.1 issue - https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/622 which is fixed in Mailman 3.3.0 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Docker container issues.

by Mark Sapiro

There have been a few recent requests for help with the Mailman Docker container images. These are packaged by Abhilash and I have no experience with Docker at all. The doc at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/docker.html points to detailed docs at https://asynchronous.in/docker-mailman/ and suggest that issues should be reported on GitHub https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman/issues where Abhilash will respond as he can. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman notify generating emails for request that aren't visible.

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/31/21 7:15 PM, Simon Coggins wrote: > The version of postorius is 1.3.4 Then you should be able to click Subscription requests even though the badge shows 0 and click Unsubscription Requests in the dropdown. I know it's an issue, but the badge only counts subscription requests pending approval and not unsubscription requests. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman notify generating emails for request that aren't visible.

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/31/21 7:27 PM, Simon Coggins wrote: > Oops sorry I hit send to soon. If I try to go > to /lists/listname.example.com/unsubscription_requests > <http://listname.example.com/unsubscription_requests> I get a 404, it > looks like unsubscription_requests > <http://listname.example.com/unsubscription_requests> isn’t in my > urls.py list for Postorius? It should be. It was added by https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/commit/0aba874cae15b1baae2839dca57d3… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: HyperKitty archiver <h1>Server Error (500</h1>

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/21 3:01 PM, Daniel Erlendson wrote: > ERROR 2021-11-01 21:57:07,969 17847 django.request Internal Server Error: /mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive > Traceback (most recent call last): > > plus a bunch of python errors and this: > > ValueError: A string literal cannot contain NUL (0x00) characters. This appears to be https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/271 fixed in HyperKitty 1.3.2 by https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/215 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 postorius cannot retrieve template

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/4/21 5:04 AM, Wolfgang Bock via Mailman-users wrote: > > My conclusion: > I ask you to consider these experiences in an update for the mailman3 > packages in debian bullseye. It would save time, questions and nerves. Issues with Debian packaging should be directed to Debian. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Showing sender as ... via ... list

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/6/21 4:40 AM, Wolfgang Bock via Mailman-users wrote: > > Here is my question: > > What do I have to configure to get my lists to show the sender like in this > list: Wolfgang Bock via Mailman-users mailman-users(a)mailman3.org In Postorius go to Settings->DMARC Mitigations and set DMARC mitigation action to Replace From with list address and DMARC Mitigate unconditionally to Yes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: SMTPSenderRefused - howto enable STARTTLS for local mail drop

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/21 1:03 AM, Stefan Bauer wrote: > > how can we configure mailman3, to use STARTTLS when dropping mails to local > postfix for final delivery? Set `smtp_secure_mode: starttls` in the `mta` section of mailman.cfg. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/config/schema.… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Moderation Action Changed After Import

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/10/21 1:31 PM, dancab(a)caltech.edu wrote: > > However when a new member is added in Mailman3 the properties for the member show the following: > Moderation Action: None > > In Mailman2 new members had their moderation action set according to the list configuration. > Are we missing something? Yes. None does not mean `no moderation`. None means use the list default as opposed to one of the specific actions defined at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/interfaces/act… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Moderation Action Changed After Import

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/21 4:32 PM, dancab(a)caltech.edu wrote: > Thanks much. That's what I suspected and was hoping to be true. > > I do think explicitly showing "List Default" would be better than "None" as a value in that field. Where are you seeing None? Postorius shows it as "List Default" -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Negative number for digest size

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/17/21 5:40 PM, dancab(a)caltech.edu wrote: > Is it possible to only send "periodic" digests via CRON and not use the digest size as a threshold for sending them? Set the list's digest size threshold to a large positive number. Setting it negative will not work. It will send a digest with every message. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty messages stuck in spool

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/18/21 6:38 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > Ok thanks for this. Its happening because the Gunicorn process running the Django server is being killed due to OOM conditions. Is there any settings I can change to troubleshoot/throttle this in Gunicorn or Django? I don't think there's anything that can be done in gunicorn or django about this. This is an OS issue. You need to give the server more memory or allocate a (bigger) swap file. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: List in list, mutiple reply-to addresses

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/22/21 6:27 AM, Stefan Bauer wrote: > > john receives following mail: > > from: iu-int@mydomain > reply-to: mike@mydomain, iu-all@mydomain > > If john now hits reply in mailclient, mail goes to ALL instead of just the > from-address, as mailman extended the reply-to header. > > How can this be changed? Set Settings -> Alter Messages -> First strip reply to to Yes on the iu-int list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: List in list, mutiple reply-to addresses

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/23/21 2:24 AM, Stefan Bauer wrote: > Unfurtunately, this completely removes the reply-to: header and sets the > list-address as a new and only reply-to. Set Settings -> Alter Messages -> Reply goes to list to No Munging in addition to First strip reply to = Yes -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: List in list, mutiple reply-to addresses

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/24/21 2:05 AM, Stefan Bauer wrote: > That is already set. No change. > This completely removes the reply-to: header and sets the iu-all > list-address as new and only reply-to. What are your current settings on both the mother and daughter lists for Anonymous list, First strip reply to, Reply goes to list and under DMARC Mitigations for DMARC mitigation action and DMARC Mitigate unconditionally? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Post-installation documentation?

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/26/21 10:38 AM, David Newman wrote: > > When running the subsequent 'mailman-web update_index_one_list' command > to index the imported archive, the command failed with a permissions > error on '/opt/mailman/web/fulltext_index' because that directory didn't > yet exist. Creating that directory and chown'ing it to mailman resolved > that. Yes, that instruction assumes you're importing the archive into an installation that already has other lists indexed. The very first time, you should be able to run `mailman-web rebuild_index` to build the index for all lists. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Sort Lists in Postorious

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/30/21 1:26 PM, Jonathan Wright via Mailman-users wrote: > Is there a way to sort the lists displayed on the main page of Postorious? They are sorted alphabetically by list name. There's not an option for another sequence. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: so many instances of mailman.cfg

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/2/21 2:21 PM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote: > Question: I've five copies of mailman.cfg on my box. How can I tell which > one is actually being used please? Give the command `mailman info`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web migrate fails: KeyError: 'django'

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/6/21 6:10 PM, David Newman wrote: > Following the venv installation docs on a Debian 10 system, the command > "mailman-web migrate" fails with a "KeyError: 'django'" error. > > Output pasted below [1]. ... > from mistune.scanner import escape_html, escape_url > ImportError: cannot import name 'escape_html' from 'mistune.scanner' You need to install https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/379 or downgrade mistune in your venv with pip install mistune==2.2.0rc1 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: list footer web customization procedure

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/10/21 10:07 AM, dancab(a)caltech.edu wrote: > Also, just to clarify we're storing all list templates in MySQL. Would the cacheing to local file system still be necessary in that case? How is Mailman accessing these templates? If by URL and the URL's scheme is other than `mailman` templates are cached. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/model/template… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: list footer web customization procedure

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/10/21 3:49 PM, dancab(a)caltech.edu wrote: > Also, just out of curiosity where is this local cache stored on the file system? In Mailman's var directory in var/cache/. The files are named with a hash of the URL and in a hierarchy based on that hash. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: shunt vs. bounce [was: File in mailman3/queue/bounces/]

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/12/21 12:51 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I should add this as a FAQ or the docs as "What is shunt?" but it's > not obvious to me which is better, and if the docs, where. Comments > welcome. Maybe add a subsection on queues to https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/runners/do… Or maybe something more in https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/d… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: apache2 security for mailman3 admin

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/21/21 1:12 AM, Lars Schimmer wrote: > > Now I want to limit the mailman3/admin area to a defined IP range. I think something like <Location "/mailman3/admin"> Require IP ... </Location> will do it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailing Lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/23/21 3:29 PM, David Newman wrote: > > This is possibly unrelated to Mailman, and possibly happening because > Outlook.com and Hotmail are both owned by Microsoft, and both are > flagging your server as a spam source. It is Mailman. See my reply at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… and the FAQ at https://wiki.list.org/x/4030707 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Newbie question 2: Rewriting issue for bounced emails

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/25/21 12:42 PM, William Oliver wrote: > > Is there a "make-the-freaking-virtual- map-database" command in > mailman3, or is this postfix thing? Should I just touch the thing and > create an empty file? I'm a little scared to... The error message > makes me think that it should be populated with something... Did you add an Alias Domain (different from the Mail Host domain) to the entry for your domain? This is what triggers the creation of postfix_vmap. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migrating to 3 - email address

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/28/21 12:45 AM, horvath.arpad.szfvar(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Error: No such list: korus(a)lists.nospam.hu > > The email I use is the command it exacttly the one we use to send email messages. What's wrong with it? > > Should I create the list in psql before I execute this command? You need to create the list first, but not in psql. You create the list with sudo -u list mailman create korus(a)lists.nospam.hu -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migrating to 3 - IsADirectoryError during hyperkitty_import

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/28/21 10:42 AM, horvath.arpad.szfvar(a)gmail.com wrote: > I tried to import an mbox using the command: > > sudo ./manage.py hyperkitty_import -l korus(a)lists.xxx.hu /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/korus.mbox ... > IsADirectoryError: [Errno 21] Is a directory: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/korus.mbox' > _______________________________________________ The correct path is /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/korus.mbox/korus.mbox -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: slow restart time for mailmanweb

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/28/21 2:43 PM, William Oliver wrote: > > Yep, it's still slow with mailmanweb: Is your /etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service the recommended one at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#automatically-s… If so, try adding KillSignal=SIGQUIT to the Service section and see if that fixes it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Still unable to get mailman3 working on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/3/22 10:10 AM, Michael Heseltine wrote: >> raise InvalidTemplateLibrary( >> django.template.library.InvalidTemplateLibrary: Invalid template library specified. ImportError raised when trying to load 'hyperkitty.templatetags.decorate': cannot import name 'escape_html' from 'mistune.scanner' (/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/mistune/scanner.py) > > What does that mean? See https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… You need to install https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/379 or downgrade mistune in your venv with pip install mistune==2.0.0rc1 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Strange behaviour when SSL (https) is activated

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/3/22 11:02 AM, François TOURDE wrote: > > Yep, and maybe I wasn't clear enough, but all other pages display > correctly. It's only when I try to log-in (ie: POST request). When you go to the login page, is the url in your browser's address bar an https url? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Still unable to get mailman3 working on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/3/22 11:31 PM, Michael Heseltine wrote: > Hi Mark, > sadly, skipping this step does not work either, as I then get the following error message from "/opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin update_index": ... >> django.db.utils.ProgrammingError: relation "hyperkitty_email" does not exist >> LINE 1: SELECT COUNT(*) AS "__count" FROM "hyperkitty_email" That's because you have no archives yet. Just ignore that too. You are now ready to create lists. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hipperkitty failing to archive messages in a list

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/6/22 10:48 AM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > > I've lied. I couldn't resist to connect and add this line: > > WSGIPassAuthorization On > > to the apache config part of wsgi... > > And after I restarted apache it worked. Now not only shows the message > I've just send to the test list, but the message sent this morning. > > Thnaks, thanks, thanks. I'm glad it's resolved. Thanks for confirming. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 is wrongly display name a list member

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/11/22 12:14 PM, Allan Hansen wrote: > Thank you, Mark. > I have Postorius Version 1.3.4 > I see no 'Users' in Postorius, but I do see it in Django. Django will only affect the login to the web UI. `Users` in Postorius requires >= 1.3.6. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: under which uid should uwsgi/manage.py run?

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/14/22 2:44 AM, Axel Rau wrote: > What is the recommended setting? All Mailman processes including Mailman core's runners and all Postorius, HyperKitty Django processes and Django management commands should run as the Mailman user. If things have been run as another user, particularly root, some files or directories may have been created that are not accessible by the Mailman user. This should be fixed by adjusting the ownership of those things. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Custom templates (was: Re: Re: nginx configuration on a multitasking server)

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/14/22 8:30 PM, David Newman wrote: > > Is there a variable for the base Postorius URL? Something like: > > https://${baseVarName}/lists/${list_id} If you or someone submits the relevant feature request and it is implemented, there will be, but not until then. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: clone a list?

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/17/22 11:24 AM, Dave McGuire wrote: > > Hi folks. Is there a way to clone or duplicate a list in MM3, i.e. > create a list with a different name but other settings etc being identical? The short answer is not yet. Would you also want to clone the list membership? If not, you could possibly do something directly with the database mailinglist table by adding a new row with all the column values other than id, list_name and list_id equal to those of the existing list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: National language messages in mm3 notifications

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/18/22 5:31 AM, Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: > Hello > > There is a problem with moderator/administrator notifications used > national (non-acsii) characters in templates. Messages came with all > non-ascii chars changed to '?' ... > What am I missing in setup? Set the list's preferred language to Russian and possibly set default_language: ru in the [mailman] section of mailman.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problem creating list members using REST API

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/18/22 3:54 PM, Stephen Daniel wrote: > I can give you a program written in Go. Would that be helpful? It may be. Send it off list and I'll see. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL setting with unix socket

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/19/22 3:45 AM, Axel Rau wrote: > > > How would I configure > POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL > with this nginx config? Set it to `http(s)://host_name/` I.e., just the scheme and host_name you use to access the Postorius UI. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: [RESOLVED] Re: Lost posting in archives

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/22/22 11:11 AM, Axel Rau wrote: > >>> If the prototype archiver is enabled for the list, > I haven’t. Should I ? It's entirely up to you. You can disable it entirely with [archiver.prototype] enabled: no If it is enabled, you can then enable/disable it list by list in Postorius Settings -> Archiving -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: bounce handling in mm3 available?

by Mark Sapiro

On January 24, 2022 11:27:06 PM PST, Stefan Bauer <cubewerk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hi Mark, > >thank you. We are running 3.1.1-9. So to get you right, this version only >records the bounces in database and nothing more? No disabling of users etc. Correct. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: National language messages in mm3 notifications

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/1/22 01:11, Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: > > It seems that notifications Subject encoding is selected based on list > or user preferred language, but Subject text come from site-wide global > strings, translated to site language. Thank you for the report and analysis. This seems marginally related to https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/963, but is different enough to warrant a new issue. Please file one at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Is there an example of a complete installation for https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#virtualenv-install (ie. standard installation)?

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/1/22 10:00, matt(a)fes.org wrote: > What i'm looking for is the directory structure, files, configs of a working mailman3 installation (with passwords/secrets obscured, etc). - /etc/mailman3, /opt/mailman, /etc/nginx, /etc/postfix, etc... See https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experience which may or may not be what you're looking for. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: High memory usage

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/17/22 07:44, Philip Colmer wrote: > > Thanks, Mark. We're using Python 3.8; I've looked at the open issues and > don't immediately see any that might be memory-leak related in a way that > would affect Mailman 3. One of the MM3 installations I support is running Python 3.8.10 and supports several things in addition to Mailman, and I'm not seeing this issue there. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 not working following distribution upgrade from Debian 10 to 11.

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/18/22 11:41, gordon(a)dickens.com wrote: > The entire error dialog that was emailed to me with the subject; "[Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /mailman3/lists/list_local_name.domain.tld", may be viewed at: The traceback which you already posted is the only info we need. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: I did something stupid. Can i back out of it?

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/19/22 12:41 PM, William Oliver wrote: > > So, I can just kill the listname user altogether? As far as Mailman is concerned, Yes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: "autorespond to list owner" setting when importing from mailman2 to mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/25/22 10:42, bob B via Mailman-users wrote: > > so to clarify: > Administrator and Moderators, will always get the approval emails? is that correct? Both owners and moderators get the notices. They get immediate notices if Settings -> Automatic Responses -> Admin immed notify (imported from MM 2.1) is Yes and they get periodic notices from `mailman notify` if it is being run by cron. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Why is this Postorius API public?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/10/22 12:49, Stanisław Findeisen via Mailman-users wrote: > Hello > > I've just noticed that Postorius API is publicly accessible from the outside to an unauthenticated user, for example: > > https://HOST/postorius/api/templates/list/LISTNAME.VHOST/list:member:regula… > > Is this what is expected? Or a misconfiguration? How to fix this? It is expected. That API only serves Postorius configured email templates. Do you think that is sensitive information? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: list footer questions

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/14/22 04:26, Stanisław Findeisen via Mailman-users wrote: > > Speaking of this: how do I get a nice *-leave address, like the one in the footer below this message? There doesn't seem to be a template placeholder for this. Yes, there is not a placeholder for the -leave address. This list uses To unsubscribe send an email to ${short_listname}-leave@${domain} -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Remove old bounces in bouncedir

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/14/22 02:02, Stephan Krinetzki wrote: > > Is there anyway to run the bounce runner manually and get the debug output of it? Set ``` [logging.debug] level: debug ``` in mailman.cfg. This will write lots of debug messages to /opt/mailman/var/logs/debug.log. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Delete user

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/14/22 09:10, Rainer Herbst wrote: > > But one problem remais open - how can I delete a user alltogether, i.e. > including his subscription and account data from the database? This is currently being worked on. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/543 In the mean time, see this thread: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Dealing with email bounces from web signups

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/16/22 23:27, Hans-Martin Mosner via Mailman-users wrote: > > I would probably also report these as spam when coming from mailing > lists subscription requests, and I would likewise advise you to send > subscription responses only after a moderator checks and releases the > subscription request. This would require changes to Mailman in that even with subscription policy confirm and moderate, confirmation comes before moderation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: anyway to change/set options for a bunch of users?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/23/22 07:27, bob B via Mailman-users wrote: > sorry forgot to ask to clarify, is there a way to set a list so any user that subscribes via the web page, are automatically set to digest? I assume not, but wanted to confirm. There is currently no way to do that. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: postorius not displaying mailman logo

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/23/22 02:21, Eggert Ehmke wrote: > > Also, check the ownership of /opt/mailman/web/static/ > it shoud be owned/grouped by mailman:mailman. Then I have mailman in the www- > data group, and vice versa. Actually, owner:group doesn't matter as long as the web server can read and search everything. Normally this is accomplished by the static/ directory and all its subordinate directories being o+rx and all subordinate files being o+r. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: duplicate SITE_IDs and broken /postorius/lists/ display; Mailman Client

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/25/22 06:33, Stanisław Findeisen via Mailman-users wrote: > > How about mailing list creation using Mailman Client, like this? > > domains = client.domains > domains = list(filter(lambda x: (domain_name == x.mail_host), domains)) > # .. check if domains is a singleton list .. > domain1 = domains[0] > domain1.create_list(list_name, style_name=style_name) > > Do you know of any quirks/deficiencies related to this kind of code? It looks fine to me. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: french translation

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/11/22 09:45, Yvan ♞ wrote: > Hello is there any french translation for mailman 3 ? > to make it more user friendly to users. Yes. See https://hosted.weblate.org/languages/fr/gnu-mailman/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY - 401 error

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/12/22 23:54, Torsten R. wrote: > > The only thing left now seems to be some weird message in the mailman.log telling me that it can't connect to the SMTP server listening on localhost port 25. > But I think I will find out why Mailman doesn't want to talk to my mail server. This issue sometimes is due to templates that can't be accessed. See https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/search?mlist=mailman-users%40mailman3.o… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 digest sending questions and also adding docker to the mix

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/13/22 15:35, bob B via Mailman-users wrote: > No worries, I hoping Abhilash will respond to the docker, > > But for non docker installs I assume that it sends out digest daily? when "Send Digest Periodically " is set to yes, is that correct? Periodic digests are sent when and only when `mailman digests --periodic` is run either via cron or manually. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 digest sending questions and also adding docker to the mix

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/14/22 05:41, Seth Seeger wrote: > > That is the only cron job I have (except for backup scripts). You may also want `mailman notify` to notify list owners/moderators of pending moderator requests. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 digest sending questions and also adding docker to the mix

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/14/22 10:08, bob B via Mailman-users wrote: > > So it looks like that piece does work in the docker environment? or does "Mailman notify" do anything else? `mailman notify` sends reminder notifications about moderator requests that still haven't been handled. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: About mailing list configuration problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/19/22 01:48, liutianhua68(a)163.com wrote: > 1. When a user subscribes, how to configure it like "lists.mailman3.org" to send a link to confirm the subscription instead of just replying to the confirmation email. You need to make a custom version of the list:user:action:subscribe template that contains a link like Alternatively, you can confirm by going to the URL https://lists.example.org/mailman3/lists/$list_id/confirm/?token=$token You can do something similar for the list:user:action:invite and list:user:action:unsubscribe templates. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: set a new default for max_message_size

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/22/22 12:28, Paul Paulchen wrote: > > According to the answer of Mark you can change the "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/styles/base.py" - mlist.max_message_size. > Now time went by, is there a possibility to use the mailman.cfg to set a new default? No. It still is not configurable except by patching or creating a new style, see https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/styles/doc… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: Templates do not work

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/28/22 15:59, Eggert Ehmke wrote: > It seems my apache vhost settings are messed up. To access the postorius page, I have to > use URLs like this: > > > https://lists.[1]tld_/mailman3/mailman3/lists/_ > -------- > [1] https://lists.ftv-spandau.de/mailman3/mailman3/lists/ I would try ``` POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL = 'https://lists.ftv-spandau.de/mailman3/' ``` I think that should work. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Upgrade-path from Ubuntu18LTS to recent mailman release

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/3/22 01:32, Eggert Ehmke wrote: > Somehow the URL is broken. Just look for mailman3+virtualenv in Google. https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html works for me. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Spam in Hyperkitty archive

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/4/22 04:24, Eggert Ehmke wrote: > > However, even spam to this mailing list that is filtered and moved to the > quarantine folder, shows up in the archive! How can I set up the spam filter so > that does not happen? Is the mail delivered to the list members? If not, I suspect that somehow the spam filtering is applied to the message from Mailman to the MTA and not to the incoming message to Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 not sending emails and archives not populating

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/6/22 20:43, nyafum--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > May 06 23:16:02 2022 (21149) in runner started. > May 06 23:17:18 2022 (21149) Uncaught runner exception: module 'time' has no attribute 'clock' This is a known incompatibility between Mailman < 3.3.0 and Python >= 3.8 See https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 not sending emails and archives not populating

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/6/22 21:37, nyafum--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Thanks Mark > which version of mailman and python will you recommend? That depends on how your Mailman is installed. If at all possible, I recommend the latest Mailman core which is 3.3.5. This will work with any Python >= 3.6. The installations I manage are running Mailman from the head of the gitlab branch at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman and Python 3.9. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: best pratice - set default MM settings and make them update-save

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/16/22 22:50, Stefan Bauer wrote: > Thank you very much. But this is a _new_ mailman behavior. In previous > versions, there was no checkbox at all and mass-subscription was done > without any confirmation. Yes, this was changed in Postorius 1.3.2, see https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html#section-6. Also see the discussion at https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/203. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Manage Member(s) Mailman Settings / Display Names

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/18/22 14:13, Dan Caballero wrote: > > For our purposes we'd need that option to appear for list "owners" so they could manage their own list users accordingly. The issue there is the user's attributes are global and it is not appropriate for the owner of one list that the user happens to be subscribed to to control those attributes. As far as display name is concerned, the user can update it at https://www.example.com/user-profile/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: How can I clear "Subscription request already pending" status ?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/24/22 08:53, Axel Rau wrote: > Hi all, > > I’m getting > HTTP Error 409: Subscription request already pending > > I (as listmaster) would like to subscribe the new member manually, but this fails with above message. In recent Postorius (>= 1.2.4), pull down the Subscription requests menu and select Pending Confirmation. Then find and delete the request. Also see https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problem with database change sqlite -> mysql

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/28/22 21:33, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I don't know how HyperKitty handles attachments offhand, but I don't > think they would be in the database itself; presumably they would be > stored in separate files. By default they are stored in a hyperkitty_attachment table in the database, but you can set HYPERKITTY_ATTACHMENT_FOLDER in your Django settings to store them as files. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/413 for additional information on this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 + postfix + dovecot + postfixadmin

by Mark Sapiro

On July 3, 2022 12:18:38 PM PDT, Geoff Nordli <geoffn(a)gnaa.net> wrote: >Hi. > >Did anyone figure out the issue or have a working configuration with this: > >https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > >I am getting the same error, with the same configuration. Did you read the whole thread at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… The OP posted his solution, and there is other information there too. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 suddenly stopped working after routine package upgrade with "apt update" and "apt upgrade".

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/5/22 11:26 AM, gordon(a)dickens.com wrote: > I solved my own problem and it was a stale master lock. I deleted all files in the locks directory that begin with master.lck as follows: "rm /var/lib/mailman3/locks/master.lck*" Actually, if Mailman core is not running, there should be no files in /var/lib/mailman3/locks/ and it is safe to remove any that exist. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: FYI: Django security releases issued: 4.0.6 and 3.2.14

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/7/22 1:36 PM, David Newman wrote: > > That was my first thought too. But there's nothing in that directory > beginning with a hyphen, not even with the -a switch. What about ``` ls -la /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/*-jango* ``` and if that shows nothing, ``` grep -r '-jango' /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/ ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman 3.x upgrade and downgrade

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/12/22 9:35 AM, C. Souza wrote: > > I can't see the mistune package, maybe it wasn't a requirement for that > version of mm3. > > 1 Package Version > 2 ------------------- ---------- > ... > 39 HyperKitty 1.3.3 Correct. It is not a requirement until HyperKitty 1.3.5 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Adding user - Error 409 Subscription request already pending

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/13/22 2:53 PM, Dan Caballero wrote: > Thanks again. Is it at all possible to run the delete_orphans_expired.py script on a specific list? Not without significant modification to the script. However, since all it does is remove pending subscriptions waiting user confirmation that should have expired, but were pended prior to Mailman 3.3.5 with a 10 year lifetime, it shouldn't be harmful. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Error while running mailman-web compilemessages

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/20/22 06:16, Prasanth Nair wrote: > Hello, > > I'm in the process of installing a Mailman3 server. I get the following > error messages when I run the command 'mailman-web compilemessages'. It was > working fine before and noticed this recently. Can someone suggest a > solution to solve this issue, please? This is a bug in the Arabic localization in django-extensions 3.2.0. See https://github.com/django-extensions/django-extensions/issues/1744 If you aren't concerned about Arabic, just ignore those messages. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can't Start Mailman3 Core on Fresh Install

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/21/22 10:59, Mail Person wrote: > Now the web interface shows as working, but it is showing "example.com" and when I go to sign-in with the postorius super user, I get a server error. What's in your Django log? What is your setting for `SITE_ID` in your Django settings. This determines which Django `sites` table entry is displayed. See https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/faq.html#the-domain-name-displayed-in-h…. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Apache Configuration for Subdomain

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/25/22 11:32, Mail Person wrote: > I'm trying to move my mailman3 web interface from example.com/mailman3 to just lists.example.com like this site. I am not having luck with the apache configuration. I've tried below but I just get a 403: What's in your apache error.log and your Django log? Do you have your subdomain listed in ALLOWED_HOSTS in your Django settings? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Apache Configuration for Subdomain

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/26/22 10:47, Mail Person wrote: > The Apache Error Log says: > > authz_core:error] [pid 90530] [client 50.200.240.158:50063] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /var/lib/mailman3/web/static/index.php Interesting. You have ``` <Directory "/var/lib/mailman3/web/static"> Require all granted </Directory> ``` I do note that your ``` Alias /static /var/lib/mailman3/web/static ``` is outside the VirtualHost definition. You might try moving it inside. I don't know if that will help, but it may. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: User display name entry field input ignored

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/27/22 05:11, Christian via Mailman-users wrote: > Okay. What if I want to change the name from "None" to "firstname lastname" > ? How can that be accomplished please? In current Postorius (>=1.3.6) there is a `Users` button at the top of the screen. Click that, find the user you want to change and click `Manage` and you can update the display name. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Restore/export existing Mailman lists + hyperkitty archives on a new server

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/1/22 22:33, Kimmo L wrote: > I only noticed, that this "Post volume over the past 30 days" column diagram chart does not update. > Even if new mails come in. > Any idea, how to fix it ? If you are running the Django periodic cron jobs, I think this will eventually clear up. I think it is the `cache_cleanup` job that will do it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Restore/export existing Mailman lists + hyperkitty archives on a new server

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/2/22 03:07, Kimmo L wrote: > > I also noticed, that after i approved that held message, it was archived, but not forwarded. What's in Mailman core's var/logs/mailman.log and var/queue/shunt directory. Presumably the message is shunted and there is an error and traceback in the log. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Restore/export existing Mailman lists + hyperkitty archives on a new server

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/2/22 04:15, Kimmo L wrote: > I was able to solve the first issue - it seems that if user belongs member list and non-member list. And your non-member rule is hold for moderation, then the message go directly to the held messages. This should not be the case. The member rule should take precedence. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Detectors and Bounces

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/5/22 14:30, summersan(a)nclack.k12.or.us wrote: > > I don't know if this info helps, but I wonder if things are working as expected at this point? As I said in my prior reply, I think so. You may consider setting up a cron that runs, say hourly to check if bounce runner is running or if the bounce queue has more than say 10 entries, and to notify you if so. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 not processing some mails from specific user

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/12/22 00:58, Stefan Bauer wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > thank you. Funny. All problematic mails are in the shunt-queue from one > specific user. > the mailman-logs did not log anything helpful. Mailman's var/log/mailman.log (or wherever it is) should have logged an exception with traceback for each shunted message. What are these tracebacks? Search the logs for `SHUNTING` (all upper case) to help find them. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 not processing some mails from specific user

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/12/22 11:26, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > You could try running "mailman unshunt", which may produce a helpful > error message if for some reason it can't do so. Unshunt won't issue an error. It will just move the message back to the original queue. Then, presumably, processing will throw the same exception which should be logged in mailman.log, and the message will be shunted again. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Gunicorn problem?

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/14/22 09:24, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > 2. I am a little lost on how one installation instance can be used to > handle TWO different domains - domain1 and domain2, both using SSL. > > I have https://lists.site1/mailman3 already running. I want to use the same > instance of MM3 to also handle https://lists.site/ and the issue of the SSL > certificates is making my head spin :) You need to get a certificate valid for both domains. See https://letsencrypt.org/docs/faq/#can-i-get-a-certificate-for-multiple-doma… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Restore/export existing Mailman lists + hyperkitty archives on a new server

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/14/22 14:18, Kimmo L wrote: > So i tried to replace uwsgi with unicorn, but still i have some wierd memory leak issue. > It consumes memory slowly time by time and if all the memory has been consumed, it will bite some swap memory and restart the workers and it will repeat the same until there is no memory and swap left. > Any suggestions ? What Mailman process(es) are consuming the memory? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: List Migration from MM2.1 -> MM3

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/15/22 06:53, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > That is exactly what I have in my mailman.cfg > > Installing Postfix suppresses that message though. I installed Postfix and > then disabled it. > Your /opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/mailman is talking to a different Mailman core than the one reading that mailman.cfg and the one Postorius is talking to. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Restore/export existing Mailman lists + hyperkitty archives on a new server

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/29/22 4:54 AM, Kimmo L wrote: > I know its out of topic, but is there possibility to somehow delete that one message, which causing this ? > I see a lot of these messages with same message-ID number: hyperkitty.views.mailman Could not archive the email with message-id .. Look in Mailman's var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ directory for the message and delete it or move it aside. You can also examine it with `mailman qfile`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to delete non-users

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/17/22 11:01 AM, Allan Hansen wrote: > Sure: > >>>> lm = getUtility(IListManager) >>>> for l in lm: > ... print(l.posting_address) > ... >>>> > > Nothing here, either. So your `mailman shell` command is not pointing at your productiom mailman.cfg. Try `mailman -C /path/to/production/mailman.cfg shell` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-full question

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/25/22 12:12, tflatley(a)gmail.com wrote: > right , thanks- venv was definitely the way to go - speaking of that, should python manage.py migrate work the same as mailman-web migrate? It probably should be `python3`, not `python`, but assuming it uses the correct Django settings, yes. You can tell if it is using your settings by looking at the output from `python3 manage.py diffsettings`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: what process creates webui tables (mailmanweb db)?

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/26/22 09:58, tflatley(a)gmail.com wrote: > i assume that mailman-web migrate runs both makemigrations and migrations? No. It only runs migrations, not makemigrations, but you should never need to run makemigrations unless you are modifying source code in a way that requires a database migration. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: 500 error on Held Messages page

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/26/22 11:06, Dan Caballero wrote: > > Even after the cleanup using the script above the pendedkeyvalue table still has 648938 rows. Is this all just poor moderation from our owners/moderators not managing their lists? See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/853 and perhaps other issues referenced in that one. What Mailman core version is this? 3.3.5 fixed a lot of this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: collectstatic msg

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/26/22 11:47, tflatley(a)gmail.com wrote: > > is it safe to overwrite these files? also before i run this do i need the mailman services down? Yes, it is safe. All the Django admin commands only affect the web UI. It is good to stop whatever service (uWSGI, gunicorn, Apache mod_wsgi, ???) supports the web UI while doing these updates or at least restart after. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Footer from templates not working - DB issue?

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/26/22 14:00, Hans Mayer via Mailman-users wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > many thanks for this hint. > > I updated table "template" and replaced "localhost" with the real name > and it worked. You should also replace `localhost` in the setting for `POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL` so that additional entries will be created properly. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Upgrading packages

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/13/22 11:34, Eggert Ehmke wrote: > > In the meantime I run > pip install --upgrade --force-reinstall git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty@master > > and that installed the correct renderer.py. Should I do this with all packages? I think that would be good just to be safe. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Internal Server Error: Reattach this thread

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/19/22 17:20, hasimoto(a)designet.co.jp wrote: > > It may be irrelevant, but the thread uses Japanese(multibyte). > Please let me know if any other information is needed. That might be relevant. Can you query the database? Find the message_id_hash of the thread. This is the 32 character string at the end of the URL to that thread in the archive. Then SELECT subject FROM hyperkitty_email WHERE message_id_hash = `that string`; and see what you get. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: About to Install MM3 -- Seeking clarification

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/21/22 01:14, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > In any case, it works when virtual environment is active. Any idea how > to activate that environment via systemd then? Can you successfully start mailman (or run any mailman commands) with, e.g. ``` /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman start or /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman info ``` without activating the venv? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Sanity check of upgrade procedure

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/26/22 11:08, David Newman wrote: > > For these new releases, is that mistune step still needed? No. That is one of the issues fixed in HyperKitty 1.3.6 which now requires mistune>=2.0.0,<3.0 and will work with those versions. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Internal Server Error: Reattach this thread

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/26/22 19:07, cold00water(a)gmail.com wrote: > In the web screen test, it was only confirmed that the "Reconnect this thread" error disappeared and threads could be added. Did you actually see the "Reconnect this thread" error before you made the changes, and after you medae the changes were you able to successfully reconnect the thread to another thread? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: restriction on attrs?

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/22 01:47, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I can't find any documentation for this change, which Mark made in a > change d0595dec76 that's documented to be about lmtp and smtp. What's > going on with this change? The initial pipeline at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/jobs/1926755143 for https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/944 failed diffcov and I determined that was due to attrs==21.3.0 so I pinned it <21.3.0 and diffcov then passed. It appears that constraint is no longer required. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: About to Install MM3 -- Seeking clarification

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/31/22 00:17, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > It is not finding the logger file. The other django project on this machine is running fine. I can confirm that the logger plugin is installed. I must be missing something. If you are following https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#initial-configu… take note of ``` # Make sure that this directory is created or Django will fail on start. LOGGING['handlers']['file']['filename'] = '/opt/mailman/web/logs/mailmanweb.log' ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Start a new thread and Reply buttons don't work on web interface

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/22 14:09, mcashdollar--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > Does anyone have an idea of why posting messages from the web interface never shows up? I turned on all the debug logs but can't find an error. HyperKitty won't send mail if `DEBUG = True` in settings. https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/blob/master/hyperkitty/lib/posting.… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3.3 ignores

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/7/22 08:05, Axel Rau wrote: > > Yes, but /var/templates expanded to /usr/local/mailman3/var/templates in the past. > What did change? > How to fix it? > Should I setup a custom layout? What is /var/templates now? I.e., is it a symlink to /usr/local/mailman3/var/templates? what does `ls -l /var/templates` (no slash at the end) show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3.3 ignores

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/22 00:28, Axel Rau wrote: > PS: Can I send posts with attachments to this list? My last posting didn’t make it. This list's content filtering accepts the following MIME types: ``` multipart message/rfc822 text application/pgp-signature application/x-pkcs7-signature application/pkcs7-signature ``` and converts HTML to plain text. So yes, you can send posts with attachments, but the only parts that make it to the list are those with a MIME main type of `text`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Emergency moderation and clearing out a lot of held messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/22 07:17, Caballero, Danny (Dan) wrote: > I don't understand. We have a single database configured for everything. I don't recall reading anything in the set-up documentation about using more than 1 database for Mailman3. A single database for everything is fine. Some of our docs, e.g. <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setup-database>, suggest two databases, `mailman` for Mailman core and `mailmanweb` for Postorius/HyperKitty, but either way is fine. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migrating to mailman-web and Ubuntu 22.04

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/15/22 06:30, Andrew Hodgson via Mailman-users wrote: > > I've potentially resolved to use Uwsgi for this and install another package which makes the installation more in line with this: > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html That doc needs to be updated to at least include gunicorn as an alternative to uwsgi. As time permits, I'll work on that. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty no longer archiving

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/21/22 16:33, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > > mailmansuite.log is full of: > > ERROR 2022-11-22 00:25:40,365 7 hyperkitty.views.mailman Access to the archiving API endpoint was forbidden from IP 172.31.0.1, your MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM setting may be misconfigured Set ``` MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM = '172.31.0.1' ``` in your Django settings, or to accept any IP set ``` MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM = '*' ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty no longer archiving

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/22/22 13:40, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > > There is only one uwsgi.ini file, and it is in the same directory as settings.py, settings_local.py and wsgi.py What is the content of that file? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 not able to deliver emails sent through list, but moderation notifications

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/26/22 10:45, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > > While this is always true for mailman-core, in some configurations the > mailman-web files are also inside the ./var/ tree, and they need to be > readable (and, for some, writable) by the process acting as webserver, > which may or may not be list:list. What configurations/files are these? Are there any others besides those in the `HYPERKITTY_ATTACHMENT_FOLDER`? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Permission denied for fulltext_index

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/30/22 05:32, Jan Eden via Mailman-users wrote: > > I tried setting permissions on /opt/mailman/fulltext_index to 777 > temporarily, but the issue remained (as expected). Are you running some security manager (SELinux, apparmor, ???) I suspect that's the issue. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Weird startup problem after upgrade

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/2/22 08:21, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Secondly, it appears that the upgrade did NOT change the versions for the > upgraded components - postorius=1.3.6, hyperkitty=1.3.5, > Mailman Core Version=3.3.5. I was expecting the version to all bump up to > the latest. Your `pip freeze` at https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/tMGDxjKwJ8/ shows django-mailman3==1.3.8 HyperKitty==1.3.6 mailman==3.3.7 mailman-hyperkitty==1.2.0 mailmanclient==3.3.4 postorius==1.3.7 which are the latest. Perhaps you have older versions installed outside the venv and perhaps this confusion is the cause of your issue. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problems after update to mailman 3.3.7

by Mark Sapiro

At least one person reports that this patch ``` --- a/src/mailman/mta/postfix.py +++ b/src/mailman/mta/postfix.py @@ -144,7 +144,7 @@ class LMTP: utility = getUtility(IMailTransportAgentAliases) by_domain = {} sort_key = attrgetter('list_name') - for list_name, mail_host in list_manager.name_components: + for list_name, mail_host in list(list_manager.name_components): mlist = _FakeList(list_name, mail_host) by_domain.setdefault(mlist.mail_host, []).append(mlist) print("""\ ``` Works around the issue with SQLAlchemy 1.4.x and MariaDB that causes truncation of postfix_lmtp with Mailman 3.3.7 and MariaDB. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Emergency moderation and clearing out a lot of held messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/7/22 15:24, Dan Caballero wrote: > Any further thoughts on this potential 'scaling' issue? This may be related to https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1026 Try the following in `mailman shell` ``` >>> pendings = getUtility(IPendings) >>> count = 0 >>> for token, data in pendings.find(pend_type='data'): ... count += 1 ... >>> count ``` What is the value printed for count and how long does the for loop take? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: About mailman-core service upgrade adaptation

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/22 03:49, 朱超 wrote: > When i upgrade mailman-core from 3.2.2 to 3.3.7, I find some change in table, for example: hyperkitty_email、hyperkitty_thread、member、openid_openidnonce、openid_openidstore， The community have some tools to help me to upgrade? What exactly is your issue? When you upgraded, alembic automatically applies all the outstanding revisions to make the database compatible with current code. The tables changes that you see were done by applying these revisions. Nothing further should be needed. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Emergency moderation and clearing out a lot of held messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/13/22 10:38, Dan Caballero wrote: > Hi Mark, > > I ran the commands and it took about 35 seconds for the loop to run. > > Here's the result. > >>>> count > 4168 So that's at least part of the issue. How does 35 seconds compare to the length of time to process one moderated message through Postorius? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Errors while importing mm2 list archives

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/17/22 23:22, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I have dropped the DB, recreated, ... When you created the DB did you specify `CHARACTER SET utf8mb4`, e.g. CREATE DATABASE mailmansuite CHARACTER SET utf8mb4 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can "Pre Verified" set to yes by default?

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/19/22 17:42, Alan So wrote: > > Instead, if the core team believe that the feature is useful and is willing to incorporate the feature to the main branch, I think that it is a better way of handling it. The change is also supposed to be more aligned with the design. The best way to get this feature request considered and possibly implemented is to file an issue at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: No Archives

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/21/22 01:52, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Could this be due to the fact that I am accessing the site using a domain > name different than what the actual site is? Yes, If your setting for FILTER_VHOST is True. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Apache+mod_wsgi issue

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/22/22 13:57, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > WSGIDaemonProcess mailman-web display-name=mailman-web > maximum-requests=1000 umask=0002 user=mailman group=mailman > python-path=/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages:/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.9 > python-home=/opt/mailman/mm/venv home=/opt/mailman/mm/var > WSGIRestrictSignal Off Add /opt/mailman/mm to python_path. I.e. > python-path=/opt/mailman/mm:/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages:/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.9 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Apache+mod_wsgi issue

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/26/22 07:42, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hi @Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) <guillermo(a)querysoft.es> > > Does your https://site.name/user-profile/ work? Again, Guillermo is using uWSGI, not Apache mod_wsgi -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Twitter OAuth2

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/27/22 01:35, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > 3. Lastly, I needed to add the relevant options under > the SOCIALACCOUNT_PROVIDERS = in settings.py. > > Now I have this: ... > And those are working but was wondering what to add for Twitter. I see from another post that you've decided against using Twitter, but to answer the question, Twitter does not require adding anything to SOCIALACCOUNT_PROVIDERS. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Early release of mailman 3.3.8 possible?

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/27/22 10:07, Torge Riedel wrote: > Dear list / devs, > > is it possible to release 3.3.8 early? You can always upgrade from the GitLab master with > pip install --upgrade mailman@git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman.git@heads/master or you can upgrade to a specific commit with, e.g. > pip install --upgrade mailman@git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman.git@7ce83ba5b59 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: hyperkitty.views.mailman The MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY was not sent as the Authorization HTTP header

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/27/22 22:00, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I worke up to 959 such entries in my mailmanweb.log: > > ERROR 2022-12-27 22:49:57,732 82073 hyperkitty.views.mailman The > MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY was not sent as the Authorization HTTP header. ... > > What might have been the cause of this? > Upgrading HyperKitty without upgrading mailman-hyperkitty. HyperKitty>= 1.3.5 requires mailman-hyperkitty>=1.2.0. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Twitter OAuth2

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/29/22 00:31, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Exactly, and I have entered all the credentials from the "OAuth 2.0 Client > ID and Client Secret" > of the twitter developer portal. > > https://webmail.kictanet.or.ke/~wash/twitter-oauth.png Try adding lists.kictanet.or.ke to Chosen sites along with mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM2 -> MM3 Migration

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/30/22 23:45, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Is there a way to delete the whole archive and re-import afresh? > I checked the django-admin options for hyperkitty and did not see any such > option. If you are a superuser, there is a red Delete Archive button on the https://example.com/archives/list@example.com page. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: 3.3.7 + sqlalchemy 1.4 is severely broken [was: Re: Re: Early release of mailman 3.3.8 possible?]

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/31/22 06:08, Claus-Justus Heine via Mailman-users wrote: > > Is there maybe the possibility for a "hotfix" release or something? As noted at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… you can always upgrade from the GitLab master. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Extracting mailing list users

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/1/23 07:47, Jan Eden via Mailman-users wrote: > On 2023-01-01 12:51, Eggert Ehmke via Mailman-users wrote: > >> I just applied that patch, but still my members with german Umlauts are printed like >> =?utf-8?q?Stefan_H=C3=BClzer?= > > It worked for me. It works for me too. Are you sure you applied it to the correct instance of cli_members.py, e.g. the one in the site-packages/mailman/ directory in your venv if you have a virtualenv install? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: SPF check fails for lists subdomain

by Mark Sapiro

I wrote: > Your spf for lists.mail.eden.one specifies its MX which is also > lists.mail.eden.one, however mail from that domain arrives from IP > 123.123.123.123 and presumably an rDNS lookup returns mail.eden.one > which is not lists.mail.eden.one, thus the failure. Actually, I realize that I was misreading your DNS entries and your MX for both domains is in fact mail.eden.one. I am as puzzled as you about the failure. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: SPF check fails for lists subdomain

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/4/23 14:02, Jan Eden via Mailman-users wrote: > > Although I could specify the IP address in my SPF records directly (as > you suggested), I do hope that my understanding of DNS records laid out > above is not entirely misguided. My current setup does work as expected > for eden.one, after all. As I said at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> I was misreading your DNS and now I am as puzzled as you about the failure. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: New year releases!

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/4/23 16:39, Dan Caballero wrote: > Thanks Mark. The migration completes after I updated the curls.py file. > > I do see some warnings... > > "WARNINGS: > django_mailman3.MailDomain: (models.W042) Auto-created primary key used when not defining a primary key type, by default 'django.db.models.AutoField'. > HINT: Configure the DEFAULT_AUTO_FIELD setting or the DjangoMailman3Config.default_auto_field attribute to point to a subclass of AutoField, e.g. 'django.db.models.BigAutoField'. Set DEFAULT_AUTO_FIELD = 'django.db.models.AutoField' in your Django settings to eliminate those warnings. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: hyperkitty installation: Unclear instructions

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/5/23 15:40, Johannes Rohr wrote: > > Thanks! But hyperkitty still has to be configured in order to work, > doesn't it? Where are the instructions that are compatible with the > virtualenv installation method? https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#initial-configu… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Footer broken after migration. Where can I fix it?

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/7/23 05:08, Johannes Rohr wrote: > OK, found them in /opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/lists/ > > But why are they invisible in the web interface? Because Postorius only knows about templates which it has created. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/366>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Error from - /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin runjobs hourly

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/11/23 23:40, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have received the following error message from the hourly cron run: > > <quote> > > /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin: line 7: 7475 Killed > django-admin $@ > > </quote> > > I have looked at my log files, but could not find any clue. Look in syslog for clues as to what killed the process and why. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Error Logging - what changed with the New Year releases?

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/15/23 01:49, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > (venv) [mailman@gw ~/mm]$ pip freeze | grep jango > Django==4.1.5 > django-allauth==0.52.0 Those are the latest stable versions, so your upgrade probably did upgrade them. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Updated script for checking and fixing mbox files.

by Mark Sapiro

Mailman 2.1 has a cleanarch script for checking mbox files for unescaped `From `lines in message bodies and optionally fixing them. For some time, there has been a stand-alone python3 version of this script at https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/cleanarch3 (mirrored at https://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/cleanarch3) I have just updated this script to check and optionally fix bad Date: headers. I have also added it at https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/blob/master/hyperkitty/contrib/clea… for the next release. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/30/23 05:01, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM = ('127.0.0.1', '::1') > So an array?? In Python ('127.0.0.1', '::1') is a tuple. MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM is a sequence <https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#sequence-types-list-tuple-r…>. It can be a tuple as above or a list like ['127.0.0.1', '::1'] -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/30/23 05:43, Massimiliano Paragnani wrote: >> am having a similar issue as described below. I don't have /etc/mailman3/mailman3-web.py > Sorry... The correct file is /etc/mailman3/mailman-web.py. If one is following <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html>, the correct file is /etc/mailman3/settings.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: No option 'postmap_command' in section: 'postfix'

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/30/23 09:46, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > So, if I understand this correctly, there is no need for the addition of > this parameter: > > ``` > configuration: /path/to/postfix-mailman.cfg > ``` > to the mta config block in mailman.cfg in a non-docker environment, or when > only using hash tables?? Correct. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Improve logging?

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/31/23 09:27, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > The scary part though is the line that starts with ' Traceback'. > It's what I'd love to not-see unless there is a serious problem. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1059 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Monthly Password Reminders

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/2/23 06:29, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Does MM3 send these monthly subscription reminders the way MM2 used to do? > I am looking for the setting, but can't find that in the list settings. No, it does not. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Verification links to localhost

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/5/23 03:16, Lars Bjørndal wrote: > > Yes, I have the file /etc/mailman3/settings.py, but in that file, I didn't have the variable in question. That file contains overrides to the defaults that it imports from mailman_web/settings/base.py and mailman_web/settings/mailman.py, but that's where you would set POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL to override the default. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: can not search Chinese characters correctly

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/6/23 23:22, gnuplone--- via Mailman-users wrote: > when the searched character are in a long Chinese phrase. e.g., > > search "北京" in > > "北京是中华人民共和国的首都，有悠久的历史，是世界上人口最多的超级城市之一。" > > will get 0 result. Possibly this is an issue with the charset of the search term vs. that of the data. If not this is an issue either with django-haystack or possibly with the underlying search engine. The list for Haystack is http://groups.google.com/group/django-haystack/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: New year releases!

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/12/23 06:16, Torge Riedel wrote: > > Today I updated core and web of mailman3 and ran into all the issues you > can have: > - Dependencies are not updated properly This depends on your pip version. With recent pip you need to specify `--upgrade-strategy eager` along with --upgrade to upgrade dependencies. This is a bit less aggressive than --force-reinstall. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Templates location on the file system

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/13/23 08:06, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I am reading this: > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/901#note_578684415 > > However, I cannot make heads or tails on what is meant by <LC>. Language code. E.g. en for English. See http://www.lingoes.net/en/translator/langcode.htm for a long list and https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/config/schema.… for those supported by Mailman core. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Multiple domain problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/14/23 12:08, Lars Bjørndal wrote: > > The domain that doesn't work: > > > <VirtualHost *:80> > ServerAdmin webmaster(a)list.punktskriftutvalget.no > DocumentRoot /var/www/list.punktskriftutvalget/ > ServerName list.punktskriftutvalget.no > ErrorLog logs/list.punktskriftutvalget-error_log > CustomLog logs/list.punktskriftutvalget-access_log common > Redirect permanent / https://list.punktskriftutvalget.no > </VirtualHost> Add a trailing slash Redirect permanent / https://list.punktskriftutvalget.no/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cron Error: <mailman@gw> /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin runjobs monthly

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/28/23 21:33, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Now that I have the error message - mail was generated at 0600hrs - what > should I grep for in mailmanweb.log to ascertain when the cron job started? You could look in /etc/crontab to see what time the cron.monthly jobs are run or you could look in syslog for 'cron\.monthly'. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Cron Error: <mailman@gw> /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin runjobs monthly

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/2/23 02:46, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > PS: Is there any documentation (for laymen) on how to set up an alternative > search engine for MM3? I recommend xapian. See http://django-haystack.readthedocs.io/en/v2.4.1/installing_search_engines.h… and https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/config-web.html?highlight=xapian#enable… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: ERROR: Can't load plugin sqlalchemy.dialects.postgres

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/2/23 12:28, o.mankewitz(a)gmail.com wrote: > Hi! > > I am trying to install Mailman3 using this tutorial/documentation: https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Howto_Install_Mailman3_On_Debian10 > So far, so good. But running > > (venv) mailman@listserver: mailman info > > throws an error: > > sqlalchemy.exc.NoSuchModuleError: Can't load plugin: sqlalchemy.dialects:postgres I'm guessing that https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… supersedes this. Or is this a separate issue? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: URLs in moderation messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/3/23 11:20, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Are these proposed VirtualHost configs independent of whether one is using > gunicorn/mod_wsgi/uwsgi? They proxy to a wsgi server using http and not uwsgi protocol so they work with any wsgi server that listens on an http socket. They will work with uWSGI and Gunicorn. Apache mod_wsgi is a totally different thing. It implements wsgi protocol directly in Apache, and its configuration is completely different. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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[MM3-users] Re: MM3+Python3.11

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/6/23 08:23, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I install Python3.11 manually on Debian12 (maybe this is the issue!) VM > using the script below: > #!/bin/bash > cd Python-3.11.2 > ./configure --enable-optimizations You also want --enable-shared -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Question about the smtp log (rotation)

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/6/23 15:39, David P Vanecek wrote: > > But the smtp log has not been rotated since August (also created by user list) > > I cannot seem to find what process does this and how I can modify it. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/931 If you find a solution, let us know. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: MM3+Python3.11

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/7/23 05:37, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Are there any specific tests that are required to be done with respect to > uWSGI and mod_wsgi? If your web UI is working to access Postorius, HyperKitty and user accounts, your wsgi interface works. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: new list not working

by Mark Sapiro

Keeping this on the list. On 3/9/23 16:54, Christian wrote: > There are no log messages relating to messages from > redlatinleg-bounces(a)lists.ccalternatives.org ... > Mar 9 22:03:30 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[26926]: 11516101258: > message-id=033101d952d3$0fe82730$2fb87590$(a)naturalintelligence.us So if you grep the mail log for 033101d952d3$0fe82730$2fb87590$(a)naturalintelligence.us the above is the only message you see? Is Mailman's out runner running? Are there messages in Mailman's var/queue/out/ or var/queue/shunt/ directories? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Social signup?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/12/23 13:56, Duane Raymond wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Is there a way to enable social signup (vs just login for existing users)? It isn't at all clear or documented, but a user without an account can go to the login page and login via a social account button and this will create an account connected to that social account and log the user in. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Pd CRON mailman gatenews

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/18/23 01:23, Pierre Malard via Mailman-users wrote: > Hello, > > That’s going again! > > If I understood your advice correctly, if we do not have lists for which the gateway to the mail is set to yes, we can comment on the CRON "gatenew". > > This is what I will do Yes, you can comment or remove gatenews from the crontab. Note that starting with Mailman 3.3.5, gatenews will be run if necessary as a periodic task in the nntp runner rather than by cron. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Held messages page not rendering the message

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/18/23 01:36, mike-mailman(a)earth.li wrote: > > However, clicking on the individual message to read it doesn't work - it does nothing visible at all. From debug I can see it requests > /mailman3/postorius/api/list/<list>/held_message/1/ which returns correctly (and the body includes the message as expected) - but it never renders it > > Any idea what could be wrong? It's a pop-up and your browser is probably blocking pop-ups. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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[MM3-users] Re: Held messages page not rendering the message

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/18/23 10:09 AM, mike-mailman(a)earth.li wrote: > Sadly not that simple. > I've disabled blocking pop-ups, and tried 2 different browsers, so unless I'm being monumentally dumb (which is entirely possible) its not as easy as that. Still, since you say the content is being delivered but not rendered, I think it has to be a browser issue. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Installing Mailman for the first time

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/24/23 16:43, comprepair_jimberg--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I am running Debian 11 Server and wanting to install Mailman 3 > > Will this work for what I am trying to do? > > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Howto_Install_Mailman3_On_Debian10 Yes, but <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html> is our current recommendation. > If not is there a shorter list of steps to accomplish what I am trying to do? The above may not be shorter. There are a lot of steps no matter how you do it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: Installing Mailman for the first time

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/24/23 19:28, Jim Berg, Jr. via Mailman-users wrote: > I am not so sure what I am doing. > > Is there someone who does this for a fee? There is a minimal list at <https://wiki.list.org/x/4489296> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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[MM3-users] Re: RemoteUserBackend for Mailman3?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/27/23 06:00, Markus Ludwig Grandpré wrote: > > Btw. how can I disable and remove the Fedora button from Maliman3's > login page? remove 'django_mailman3.lib.auth.fedora' from INSTALLED_APPS in your Django settings. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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[MM3-users] Re: How to list all nonmembers from a list?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/28/23 01:28, Jens Günther wrote: > Hey there, I wanted to list all nonmembers from a list, I just can't > find an easy way to do it. > > For listing members of a list it is quite clear: mailman members $mylist > > Is there a similar way for nonmembers!? mailman members --role nonmember $mylist See mailman members --help for documentation of all the options. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: Question about whitlisting a domain for specific mailing list

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/30/23 11:07, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > So the MTA option that doesn't involve any regex is better than no? Partly it's a matter of taste and possibly a matter of necessity. I.e. a list admin can do this with header filters and may not have access to the MTA config. Also, it's not clear to me that doing this in Postfix is less complicated than understanding a regex. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: List notices in French, but subject in English

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/6/23 02:51, Mark Dale via Mailman-users wrote: > > I have a list set with it's preferred language set as French and the > body of the standard notification emails (eg. Welcome message) is > correctly sent in French, however the subject of the emails is in English. This is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/993>, fixed in Mailman>=3.3.6 by <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/1000>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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