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[MM3-users] Re: Daily Cronjob fails

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/7/19 7:19 PM, andrew.bernard(a)gmail.com wrote: > I am seeing the same error with the Hyperkitty installed from packages on Ubuntu 19. > > In order to apply that patch, should I install hyperkitty from git myself? Assuming your hyperkitty installation includes hyperkitty/migrations/0018_threadcategory_color.py all you should need to do is get hyperkitty/migrations/0019_auto_20190127_null_description.py from gitlab and put it in your hyperkitty/migrations/ directory and run `manage.py migrate` to apply it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius performance with over 1000 pending users

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/11/19 5:05 AM, Nick wrote: > > In trying to learn more about preventing spam registrations, what methods does > Postorius successfully employ to reduce spam signups through the > "anonymous_subscribe" form? Only those implied by the list's Subscription Policy. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Rich Text support in Hyperkitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/14/19 11:27 AM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > The rendering of the above message broke the formatting of only that > line since inline style ended when it encountered a new-line character. > Not to say that it isn't bad. Actually, there was a second backtick on the line that terminated it. I'm not sure if the newline would have in the absence of that. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: howto reallow a banned email ?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/18/19 9:40 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: > much thanks. I use mailman 2 interface (and will switch soon to 3) This list is for Mailman 3. The appropriate list for Mailman 2 questions is mailman-users(a)python.org <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: join via webform

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/20/19 7:05 AM, mailman3(a)malevil.cc wrote: > thanks, is there something like this for unsubscribng in postorius? If you are a member of list(a)example.com and you go to lists/list(a)example.com in Postorius and log-in if necessary, there is an Unsubscribe button on that page. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: change preferred language of list

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/20/19 2:42 PM, mailman3(a)malevil.cc wrote: > the one-liner was just the output of mailman conf, its correct in the conf file > >> Settings -> List Identity -> Preferred Langauge > > sorry what postorius version are you running? there is nothing like that for me, > see: https://share.riseup.net/#dS71TjSihRSrTeZDnBQB1A... It is new. It will be in Postorius 1.2.5 The implementation is at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/commit/3ef8ad602a597b6605060bdabb6a595…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Delete a single email or thread from hyperkitty archive

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/21/19 6:54 AM, andrew.bernard(a)gmail.com wrote: > How can one do this? Raw database access gets you involved in all the usual foreign key constraints. In the HyperKitty thread view there is a link to "Delete this thread". In the message view there is a link to "Delete this message". -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Unwanted indent on first line of post in hyperkiity

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/23/19 7:01 AM, andrew.bernard(a)gmail.com wrote: > I don't want hyperkiitty adding an unasked for indent on the first line of all posts. How can one turn that off? This is probably fixed by <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/merge_requests/160> which is not yet merged but is installed for this list, so see for example <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Confirmation for subscriptions

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/23/19 7:11 PM, andrew.bernard(a)gmail.com wrote: > I have had some trouble with uwsgi, now resolved. Not that there may be any connection, but now, email requests to join are sent a confirmation mail, but the webui just signs you up with no confirmation despite having the subscription policy set to Confirm, and the right code in the database table underneath. Is this a web subscribe for a logged in user or and "anonymous subscribe" for a non-logged in user or both? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Reset digest number and volume

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/26/19 3:08 AM, andrew.bernard(a)gmail.com wrote: > How to do this? After lots of testing on my pre-release beta testing list, I want the first production digest to be reset toVolume 1, Number 1. You can do this in `mailman shell` by setting the list's `volume` and `next_digest_number` to 1. E.g., $ ./mailman shell -l list(a)example.com Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell The variable 'm' is the list(a)example.com mailing list >>> m.volume = 1 >>> m.next_digest_number = 1 >>> commit() -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Reset digest number and volume

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/28/19 7:30 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > HI Mark, > > > I get: > >>>> commit() > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "<console>", line 1, in <module> > NameError: name 'commit' is not defined It should be if you are running in `mailman shell`, but just exiting with control-D should also do an implicit commit() -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mandatory First and Last Name

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/30/19 1:26 AM, andrew.bernard(a)gmail.com wrote: > Is there a way to make the profile require users to fill out their name? You can edit postorius/forms/list_forms.py. There are two class definitions `class ListSubscribe(forms.Form):` and `class ListAnonymousSubscribe(forms.Form):`, both of which contain display_name = forms.CharField( label=_('Your name (optional)'), required=False) which you could change to display_name = forms.CharField( label=_('Your name'), required=True) -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mandatory First and Last Name

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/7/19 3:52 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Thank you Mark, most helpful. > > As an aside, how do you get the code colour highlighting and the code boxes in your post here on the web interface? That is a result of <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/merge_requests/160> which is installed for this list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: HTML post only showing as attachment

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/4/19 7:13 AM, andrew.bernard(a)gmail.com wrote: > I have a post come in that is in HTML and has an image attached. It is distributed fine to email subscribers. Hyperkitty shows a blank message, with the in an html attachment, and the image as a jpg attachment. > > Why doesn't the text show in Hyperkitty? Because there is no plain text. Non text/plain parts including text/html parts are "scrubbed" and stored aside. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to see post headers

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/12/19 3:56 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Once a post has gone into Hyperkitty, how can I see the full mail headers? When viewing the message, click the Download button at the bottom of the left sidebar. The downloaded file is a gzipped mbox containing the message or all the messages in the thread or all the messages in the month or the archive depending on the view. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to see post headers

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/12/19 5:10 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Thank you Mark. > > Posts for the current month download as a corrupt zip file. What could cause that, and how to diagnose? It's not a zip file, it's a gzip file. What are you trying to open it with? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Default posting pipeline

by Mark Sapiro

On July 16, 2019 12:09:30 AM PDT, Andrew Bernard <andrew.bernard(a)gmail.com> wrote: >What is a posting pipeline, and what is the difference between >detault-posting-pipeline and default-owner-pipeline and virgin? > >Where to read about this? Go to <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/> and search for 'pipeline'. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty reply indent

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/17/19 3:55 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > > My users tell me that nobody users computers any more, only phones (Urk). I thought that demographic didn't use email either, not to mention email lists. (Maybe that's why the default phone email clients all suck.) -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: ARC

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/13/19 5:04 AM, Marvin Gülker wrote: > > Do any large e-mail providers actually support ARC? Smaller ones like > Fastmail appearently do at least semi-manually[1], but what about the > relevant ones -- GMail, Microsoft, Yahoo (and in Germany, GMX et al.)? Gmail does. The question is not whether they support ARC, but whether they will trust you. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman 3 installation, no mails in hyperkitty, unable to add footer.

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/23/19 12:17 PM, Ugnius S wrote: > > It would be good to read about working example how to setup, and which > moments are important. See <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experience>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Database read only error on mailman_sync job

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/1/19 1:02 AM, Ugnius S wrote: > I guess that issue is hyperkitty database, but I even do not know the name > and location of that database. See the DATABASES definition in your Django settings. The default is a sqlite3 database named mailmansuite.db in the same directory as the Django settings. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Alter Messages: Reply to confusion

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/3/19 9:04 PM, tokyoprogressive(a)mailbox.org wrote: > > > By the way, I see that my email address in my messages in my list is fully visible. If I want to make it hard for email harvesters, what setting do I use? You can set the list to be anonymous. Postorius Settings -> Alter Messages -> Anonymous list = Yes -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: HyperKitty and duplicate emails across maillists

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/16/19 9:31 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > In the case that Mailman receives a message that has no Message-Id, it > may be a good idea to generate one. (I don't think this is > implemented. It has its problems as well as its benefits.) Mailman rejects messages without a Message-ID: header. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/490>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: "Cannot connect to SMTP server localhost on port 25"

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/21/19 1:00 PM, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote: > > Can I use a debugger to see exactly what happens in the runner? You might be able to run the runner under pdb <https://docs.python.org/3.2/library/pdb.html>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Issues with migrating from Mailman2 to Mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/23/19 12:03 AM, Paul Arenson wrote: > Thank you Mark. > > I found my solution. Simplifies things. People do not have to even > think about subscribing….. <snip> > How does that sound? OK -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Show diplay_name in a list

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/29/19 2:29 PM, ruben(a)bkonrad.de wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to figure out how to show the display_name of a member in postorius in Members > Subscriber. What Postorius version is this? Since 1.2.3, this is called Users -> Members. Also, since 1.2, Postorius has had this feature. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/commit/7a6b6cba30f4da38e1c140e16a8cb62…> > Any idea what I was missing there? Often, member.display_name doesn't exist or is "None". -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: List rename

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/9/19 3:36 PM, dguevarra(a)unr.edu wrote: > > I'm sorry to hijack your thread. But which python module did you import for the commands like call_http and dump_json to work? I've been searching online for an hour and can't find anything. In 'mailman shell' you can do for example from mailman.testing.documentation import call_http, dump_json These are basically helpers used throughout the documentation. Unfortunately, that fact isn't well documented. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/blob/master/src/mailman/testing/document…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: max_delivery_threads

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/19 12:29 AM, Sven Buesing wrote: > Hi, > > we are currently running mailman version 3.3.0. > We want to enable max_delivery_threads - we want to send personalized mails > (To: ), and we hope that threading would speed things up - but it seems this > option has no functionality despite being documented in the schema.cfg. It is documented in schema.cfg, but it has never been implemented. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Search problem in 3.2.1?

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/22/19 9:41 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > > Hmm, maybe I’ll take another shot at getting Xapian running then. > > Whoosh ran for 5+ days trying to index my archive of 556,000+ messages before I gave up. I haven't tried Xapian. On mail.python.org, I dont recall how many total messages there were at the time I switched from Whoosh to ElasticSearch, but a full index rebuild with Whoosh would take several hours, whereas ElasticSearch took about 10 minutes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mails are not archived at all -- how to check if Hyperkitty is running or not?

by Mark Sapiro

I haven't read this thread in detail. I've been off line for 3 days due to a Public Safety Power Shutoff, but my first question is if you go the the Pustorius web UI for the list(s) and look at Settings -> Archiving -> Active archivers, is hyperkitty checked? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailing lists sometimes do not honor moderation_action of non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/19 1:34 AM, Alan So wrote: > Understood that member's moderation_action will supersede non-member's moderation_action. (But how about owner? Owner alone should have no such setting. Sometimes issues occur when one are both owner and non-member) The fact that a post's sender might be an owner should have no effect. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Python error, debian package, again

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/19 7:04 AM, Lars Schimmer wrote: > > Abhilash Raj (maxking) mentionend, it maybe a issue with mailman core > trying to deliver the message to hyperkitty. > But how can I remove those broken messages, or twitch hyperkitty to > accept and discard them? Look in Mailman's var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ directory. This is where messages that mailman-hyperkitty can't deliver to hyperkitty are kept for retry. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Python error, debian package, again

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/6/19 12:14 AM, Lars Schimmer wrote: > > Yeah, there are some in this folder. Can I simply remove those entries > from the spool directory? > Or do I need to fiddle with any cmdline tool? You can just remove them or move then aside. If you want to see what they are, you can examine them with the cmdline mailman qfile path/to/file -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Adding / manipulating users

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/18/19 6:01 PM, Seth Seeger wrote: > > Great! I can definitely do the REST API route. If I create a script to take a CSV and push it through the API, is there a place I can post it to make it useful for others? Ideally you would create a merge request to add it to https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/tree/master/contrib/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Advice

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/20/19 6:02 AM, Jerry Koutavas wrote: > > We are seeking a consultant to help migrate us from Mailman 2.1.9 to 3 > Mailing list (Core + Postorius) + web-forum (Hyperkitty). > > Any recommendations is appreciated - <https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20consulting%20services> may help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Create new list styles via Postorius

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/23/19 3:50 AM, Torge Riedel wrote: > > Is there any way to create and configure list styles via Postorius web > interface? Not currently. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Setting up From: field as list address

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/25/19 7:33 AM, Steven Maddox wrote: > Hey, > > Thanks Mark... found that about 2 minutes after I sent this in :) > > If you ever get a 'moderator waiting approval' reply when sending into a > mailman list... don't suppose there is some magic command you can send > into the list to cancel off a pending e-mail? :D There should be, but currently there isn't. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Logging subscribes/unsubscribes

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/9/19 5:53 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > Does Mailman 3 log subscribes and unsubscribes for each list the way Mailman 2 did? Yes and no. Some (un)subscription events are logged, but the only things are: listname: held subscription request from address listname: held unsubscription request from address and when a held unsubscription is approved listname: deleted address Further, with default settings, these are written to var/log/mailman.log, but you can put [logging.subscribe] path: subscribe.log in mailman.cfg to cause them to go to their own log file. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Error

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/9/19 5:52 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > Thanks Mark. Unfortunately I can't find /usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/hyperkitty/lib/analysis.py with the Docker setup, even when I enter the Mailman shell. I don't know enough about Docker to tell you where to look. > Should I file a bug report at https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman? It wouldn't hurt. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Logging subscribes/unsubscribes

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/9/19 7:14 PM, Paul Arenson wrote: > > Which brings up another question—I don’t see a way to download subscribers in a list, which would be useful in situations like this or when migrating. The 'mailman members' command can do this. In Postorius the 'CSV Export' button at lists/<list-ID>/members/member/ will do it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/11/19 11:40 AM, Marvin Gülker wrote: > > Success! This time it crashes with the expected exception. I've attached > the shell transcript. Good. > As expected, it's a spam message. I've uploaded the offending file here > for you to look at: > <https://ftp.secretchronicles.org/misc/Q5PQZI4QEE4C42XNZMXESSKDCSZBUT4T> I get a Forbidden status on that URL. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: No Message-ID and Postfix

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/18/19 6:41 AM, Seth Seeger wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have two mailing list members who use an old Android tablet or a Windows 10 mail program, and when they reply to an email, their submission gets rejected: > > 550 No Message-ID header provided (in reply to end of DATA command) ... > Has anyone solved this for Postfix? See <http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#always_add_missing_headers>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migration from 2.1 to 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/8/20 6:38 AM, Ryan Morash wrote: > I'm running into the same issue, but after some troubleshooting I think the issue isn't with the import21 command. I'm running into the same issue when I create a list using 'mailman create' without importing anything. New lists created through Postorius work fine. Can you please post the `mailman create` command options you are using to create the list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] bounce processing on this list

by Mark Sapiro

I have just installed the latest Mailman core for this list. This version now actually processes bounces. As a result of the huge backlog of unprocessed, queued bounces, some members may receive one or more bounce probe messages. As long as the probes don't bounce, your subscription will be unaffected and you can ignore the probe message. Sorry for the noise. Hopefully it's just a one time catch-up. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot setup HTTPS support for mailman3-web

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/10/20 4:13 AM, jean-christophe manciot wrote: > > Of course, without those specific https/suwsgi settings, everything works fine. > What am I missing/doing incorrectly? Does uwsgi need access to the certificate/private key while running as non-root for instance? I think so. Have you tried making the key file group readable and group www-data? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: where to configure max_days_to_hold on MM3 GUI interface?

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/28/20 8:42 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > > But I could see that parameter value configurable on MM2 GUI > interface in General Options but I don't see the same on the MM3 GUI > interface. There are many core settings not (yet) exposed in Postorius. max_days_to_hold. is one of them. It can be set via `mailman shell` or via the REST API <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/rest.html#re…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: DMARC Munging

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/29/20 4:39 PM, Allan Hansen wrote: > > Is there a way for me to make this change to the From header munging until it is implemented in the production version? I made MM2 do the munging using such a change on your recommendation and it has worked. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/674#note_279196921> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: where to configure max_days_to_hold on MM3 GUI interface?

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/1/20 9:43 AM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > Finally, dump_json is documented here: https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/documentation.htm… And implicit but not explicit in that is that to use Python, you want to use `mailman shell` and maybe within that do things like from mailman.testing.documentation import dump_json -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Email verification

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/9/20 1:29 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > Finally, if you go into the Django’s admin interface, https://example.com/admin, you’ll find an EmailAddress table, where you can find and manually verify the user’s email address (check box to select “verified” and hit save). Note that you need to click the user's address in the list to get the page where you can verify it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Sync Members of a MM3 Mailing List

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/11/20 1:37 PM, peterbw(a)devio.us wrote: > > Do you happen to know when this feature will be implemented? Is there any additional testing that needs to be done that we can help with? There are still 2 unresolved review comments at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/545>. They are very minor and I think they are the only hold-up. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installing MM3 via pip fails…

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/18/20 1:28 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > > The link to the virtualenv user guide seems to be broken. Thanks for noticing/reporting. It's fixed now. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to run 'manage.py update_index_one_list' command.

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/25/20 3:26 PM, Frank van den Heuvel wrote: > > To finalize this process I am seeking manage.py that will execute the > update index command. In your case it is just /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin The issue is we don't in general know exactly how Django has been installed or what the management command is, byt hyperkitty_import should be able to figure out how it was invoked and use that. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: How to run 'manage.py update_index_one_list' command.

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/25/20 3:46 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > On 2/25/20 6:26 PM, Frank van den Heuvel wrote: >> What can I do to get the newly imported posts indexed? > > I am not sure if this would be helpful but you can try running: > > /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman-post-update That won't help for this, although the contents of that script, if he has it, will point to the correct Django management command. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Question about members

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/3/20 6:21 AM, Dieter Leupold via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi together, > > short question: is it possible to display the time stamp when members > have completed their subscriptions? > Thanks a lot for your information! We don't have that information. We do know when the subscribed address was registered and when it was verified, but this information is not when this address was subscribed to this list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman web Stopped working after upgrade

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/3/20 1:52 PM, David Krantz wrote: > But now that it is working the order of the mailing lists on the index > page are in random order again. When it worked initially they seemed > sorted by name. Whey I follow the link "see all lists" the order is > correct, though. Annoying. They should be sorted by name regardless of the filter. I don't know what the cause of the issue might be. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Archives with encoding characters

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/4/20 9:56 AM, Seth Seeger wrote: > I should add that they are both on Plain Text Digests. (People seemed to be unhappy with MIME digests, because they had to double click on each email to open it up. You couldn't just scroll through a long email.) That depends on the MUA. Thinderbird for example displays the messages from a MIME digest inline. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Archives with encoding characters

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/4/20 1:00 PM, Seth Seeger wrote: > > How do I find the raw digest message? Do you mean asking the member to View Raw Message, and then copy and paste that to me? That would be one way. Or you could subscribe an address of your own to the plain text digest and view the raw message directly. Of course, you'd need to be sure the digest you're looking at is one that has the problem. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Scrub non digest

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/9/20 3:56 AM, Eduardo Costa via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, > > on mailman2 used to scrub attachments in non digest, each member > received the attachment link, how can I do it on mailman3? This is not currently possible in Mailman 3. It requires that Mailman core know a web accessible place to store the attachments and a URI to access them, and it currently doesn't know these things. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: IsADirectoryError: [Errno 21] Is a directory: '/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/mailman/templates'

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/17/20 5:32 AM, sunil soprey wrote: > Has anyone encountered this error? I pulled the latest mailman suite (versions below), and facing this error in two places This is a known incompatibility between current Mailman core (3.3.0) and importlib_resources>=1.1.0. This has been fixed by <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/605> although it is not clear that that is the optimum fix going forward. You can fix it by downgrading importlib_resources to 1.0.2. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Archives with encoding characters

by Mark Sapiro

Mark Sapiro wrote: > The cause is a quoted-printable encoded message body not being decoded. > This may or may not be a Mailman bug, ... This is a Mailman bug. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/473>

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius confirmation mails shown in uwsgi-error.log but not sent

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/28/20 3:53 PM, Ralph Seichter wrote: > > As I said, the MTA does not log connection attempts from the Suite, nor > do I find evidence that Django actually tries to send out email. Weird. What is the complete log message from uwsgi-error.log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Uncaught runner exception

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/7/20 3:22 AM, Wolfgang Bock via Mailman-users wrote: > Apr 07 12:09:21 2020 (28206) Cannot connect to SMTP server localhost on port 25 > > I have no idea what to do for solving my problems. Can you successfully telnet localhost 25 from a shell on the server? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Uncaught runner exception

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/7/20 2:40 PM, Wolfgang Bock via Mailman-users wrote: > Yes, I assume that means telnet localhost 25 succeeds. Try the attached patch to mailman/runners/outgoing.py. It should log more about the actual exception. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Is a directory: '…/mailman/templates'

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/14/20 10:23 AM, sunil soprey wrote: > With latest python3 via yum install, you cannot downgrade importlib. > > @maxking -- what is the thinking on real fix? Can we avoid downgrading or switch to a different library? This should be fixed by <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/615> which is included in Mailman core 3.3.1rc1. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/15/20 3:47 PM, Mohsen Masoudfar wrote: > I am new to mailman3, my understanding was, maybe wrong, that when I create a list, mailman3 adds that to the local list of users. I think , I am missing something . . . > Or probably this is related to a postfix setting? Have you configured Mailman core and Postfix per <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.html#postfix>? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Recommended way to backup a mailman3 instance

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/17/20 4:51 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > If they are empty, perhaps the digest creation process should just re-create them instead of failing to create/send digests? We don't really need the directory structure to exist. I created <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/699> for this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Different Mail Domain Cause Key Error

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/21/20 12:49 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > When I try to access Postorius using list.domain.com I get a "An error occurred while processing your request." message and the logs shows the dreaded: > > ``` > 'Internal Server Error: /mailman3/lists/ > > KeyError at /mailman3/lists/ > 'file' This is not the error. The KeyError ... 'file' exception is a Django logging exception. It is not the underlying error. There should be more in the log indicating what the real problem is. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Changing web access

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/22/20 11:35 AM, Ralf Wiegand wrote: > > but I am getting : > > mailmanclient.restbase.connection.MailmanConnectionError: ('Could not > connect to Mailman API: ', > 'ConnectionError(MaxRetryError("HTTPConnectionPool(host=\'localhost\', > port=8001): Max retries exceeded with url: > /3.0/lists?advertised=true&count=0&page=1 (Caused by > NewConnectionError(\'<urllib3.connection.HTTPConnection object at > 0x7f88fe4cb4e0>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 111] > Connection refused\',))",),)') What do you have for ALLOWED_HOSTS in your settings file(s)? You may want something like ALLOWED_HOSTS = ['*'] or ALLOWED_HOSTS = ['192.168.*'] -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: /bin/sh: sassc: command not found

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/22/20 11:38 AM, Ralf Wiegand wrote: > /bin/sh: sassc: command not found - Not sure on what I am missing? You currently have something like: COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS = ( ('text/x-scss', 'sassc -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'), ('text/x-sass', 'sassc -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'), ) in your settings. Either install sassc or you can install ruby-sass and change the settings to COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS = ( ('text/x-scss', 'sass -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'), ('text/x-sass', 'sass -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'), ) -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: /bin/sh: sassc: command not found

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/22/20 12:02 PM, Ralf Wiegand wrote: > Thank you Mark, where do I find this section of code? In your Django settings often called settings.py and settings_local.py -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Changing web access

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/22/20 12:15 PM, Ralf Wiegand wrote: > > > System check identified no issues (0 silenced). > April 22, 2020 - 19:05:09 > Django version 2.2.12, using settings 'settings' > Starting development server at http://0.0.0.0:8000/ > Quit the server with CONTROL-C. > ERROR Mailman REST API not available It appears Mailman core is not running or you have an issue with the Django setting for MAILMAN_REST_API_URL and the Mailman core settings for [webservice] hostname: localhost port: 8001 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: FILTER_VHOST fix - was: Postorius & multi domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/23/20 10:27 AM, Gilles Filippini wrote: > > You'll have also to remove the compiled files from the __pycache__ > directory: This is not necessary. If the .py file is newer than the .pyc file in the __pycache__ directory, the interpreter will use the .py file and if it has permission will rewrite the .pyc file. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: hyperkitty web site

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/28/20 10:26 AM, Gelpi Andrea wrote: > > I put a workaround for now in index.py so also list.example.com works. > > > # Domain filtering > if settings.FILTER_VHOST: > domain = request.get_host().split(":")[0] > if domain.startswith("www."): > domain = domain[4:] > #gg# Added by Gelpi > if domain.startswith("list."): > domain = domain[5:] > domain = "@%s" % domain > mlists = mlists.filter(name__iendswith=domain) See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/243> for the fix I just proposed. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 vs postfix

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/28/20 12:25 PM, Ralf Wiegand wrote: > Hello, I need some help to get the postfix part to work right. Because > this is a test setup I don't really send any emails out. How can I > create a admin login account without email verification? django-admin createsuperuser -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 vs postfix

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/28/20 12:42 PM, Ralf Wiegand wrote: > (venv-3.6) [root@empire mailman]# django-admin createsuperuser > No Django settings specified. In that case, you need to specify additional options: --pythonpath /path/to/where/your/settings/are located --settings name_of_your_settings_file_without_the_.py e.g. something like django-admin --pythonpath /usr/share/mailman3-web \ --settings settings createsuperuser -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 vs postfix

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/28/20 1:18 PM, Ralf Wiegand wrote: > Mark - I have a hard time following this. > > /path/to/where/your/settings/are located > > what settings? what do I am looking for? Based on the traceback from another post: --pythonpath /opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project --settings settings.py -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: having issues with EMAIL_HOST =

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/28/20 1:05 PM, Ralf Wiegand wrote: > python manage.py runserver 0.0.0.0:8000 > Traceback (most recent call last): ... > File "/opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project/settings.py", > line 286 > EMAIL_HOST = ‘mail.somedomain.org’ > ^ > SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier The characters in the above that look like ascii apostrophe/single-quote characters are actually unicode right-single-quote characters. I.e., it needs to be EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.somedomain.org' not EMAIL_HOST = ‘mail.somedomain.org’ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 vs postfix

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/29/20 4:55 AM, Ralf Wiegand wrote: > Good morning mark, still not working. Not sure what the issue is. > > > (venv-3.6) [root@empire mailman-suite_project]# django-admin --pythonpath /opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project --setting settings createsuperuser > No Django settings specified. > Unknown command: '--pythonpath' > Type 'django-admin help' for usage. This is partly my fault in that the --pythonpath and --settings options need to come after the createsuperuser subcommand, but also you've misspelled --settings. Try django-admin createsuperuser \ --pythonpath /opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project \ --settings settings -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Fwd: [GNC-dev] Passwords are Confidential

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/28/20 11:42 PM, flywire wrote: > Looking forward to Mailman 3. How can I get an indication of when Mailman 3 > code is likely to run on Fedora 29? If you mean as a Fedora package, I have no idea. If you mean can Mailman 3 be installed on Fedora, people have been running Mailman 3 on Fedora for years. Start here <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installation Wooes

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/2/20 1:40 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > I think this is a bug in Ubuntu 20.04. > > Python3 package is: > Python3 3.8.2-0ubuntu2 > https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=focal&keywords=python3 > Mailman3 is: 3.2.2-1 > https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=focal&keywords=mailman3 It's also an issue with Debian bullseye and sid which package Mailman 3.2.2 with Python 3.8.3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: /bin/sh: sassc: command not found

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/3/20 4:36 PM, sunil soprey wrote: > Mark -- option3 - pysassc? Any concerns/issues if we switched to pysassc? This seems work with latest release. Keeps the install python-centric, avoids syadmins/devops to maintain another package. I think it's probably fine. Since it's available on PyPi, we might consider adding it as a dependency for HyperKitty -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installation Wooes

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/3/20 7:14 PM, Samir Faci wrote: > I manually patched up the bug since It seems it only occurs once or twice > in the code base. There's more to it than just time.clock. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/552/diffs?commit_id=ea0…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Error after upgrading mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/4/20 8:53 AM, Gelpi Andrea wrote: > > By the way do you know which mailman version introduce the command > mailman notify? `mailman notify` was released in 3.3.0. <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/docs/NEWS.rst#…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installation Wooes

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/4/20 1:59 PM, Samir Faci wrote: > Oh wow.. so that was special. > > Sorry for the massive logs and back and forth. It turns out all I was > missing was that I needed to re-run > > sudo mailman aliases before restarting the service. Starting with Mailman core 3.3.1, `mailman start` (but not `mailman restart`) will by default, regenerate the aliases. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Weird hourly indexing error

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/5/20 9:33 AM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > > Thanks. I guess I wait for them to roll the fix in and the ubuntu maintainers to pick it up. You don't want to wait because I think currently your search index is not being updated due to the exception. I think you should just apply the patch at https://patch-diff.githubusercontent.com/raw/notanumber/xapian-haystack/pul…>. I installed it in a test instance and it seems fine. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Weird hourly indexing error

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/5/20 8:55 AM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > ERROR/MainProcess] Failed indexing 1 - 1000 (retry 5/5): Term too long (> 245): > XSUBJECT95251413 It isn't clear from looking at it and I never would have noticed had I not happened to look at the raw email with less, but the XSUBJECT95251413 in the above is the entire long word. This is how less displays it > XSUBJECT9<U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B>5<U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B>2<U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B>5<U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B>1<U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B>4<U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B>1<U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B>3<U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B><U+200B> Each of those <U+200B> represents a unicode zero width space. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can it work on FreebSD

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/8/20 2:49 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Mailman 3 is a collections of pure Python applications, and should be > installable from source and work as is on any POSIX system. Documents > on mailman.readthedocs.io should support installation and operation on > any such system. Actually, a better starting place for the docs is https://docs.mailman3.org/. You may also find this wiki article <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experience> of interest, and there is probably useful information in the archives of this list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Link in the top-left corner of Hyperkitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/8/20 7:34 AM, Seth Seeger wrote: > > There is a link to the root of Hyperkitty in the top left corner of my Hyperkitty pages. It links to the correct domain, but the text isn’t right - it’s the first domain name I was using at the beginning of my install for testing. I’d like to update it, but can’t find what to change. You have to edit the display name for the domain in the Django web admin Sites section. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Held messages not being deleted

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/12/20 9:38 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Hi, > > I am finding that held messages although being deleted in the database are still being stored in the ~/var/messages directory structure. Is this by design? See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/205>, particularly the last paragraph. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Weird hourly indexing error

by Mark Sapiro

Mark Dadgar wrote: > BTW, Digital Ocean is pretty awesome. If anyone wants to try it, ping me for a referral > code good for $100 in credit to play with. DigitalOcean also hosts the server that supports all the @python.org email including hundreds of Mailman 2 and 3 lists. You can also get a credit with DigitalOcean by following the link at the bottom of <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman Header Behavior

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/15/20 9:31 AM, Samir Faci wrote: > > Is there a way to force mailman to ensure that the list name shows up in > the from field? In Postorius Settings -> DMARC Mitigations set DMARC mitigation action to Replace From with list address and set DMARC Mitigate unconditionally to Yes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman Header Behavior

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/15/20 10:18 AM, Samir Faci wrote: > Perfect, Thanks. > > Is there a way to set this as a default for all new lists being created? > Still working on the new styles, I imagine that can be set there during the > selection of the list type. The settings are defined at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/interfaces/mai…>. The current defailts are set at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/styles/base.py…>. These are what you would change in your styles. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman Header Behavior

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/15/20 2:29 PM, Seth Seeger wrote: > Is there a way to munge/rewrite the -owner and -bounces emails? = > Otherwise, I had to go through the following to be able to use AWS SES: There's always a way if you want to modify code and break automated bounce processing, but there are no configuration settings to do this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: ValueError: ...:EVP_DigestInit_ex:disabled for fips

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/20/20 10:37 AM, Ralf Wiegand wrote: > Hello Mark, > > Can I substitute Django with something that will be FIPS complaint? > Can I do without it? I can't help you with this. This is apparently a long standing issue with Django. See <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/28401>. There is also a Python issue for this at <https://bugs.python.org/issue9216> Both of those issue reports have patches and/or suggestions for workarounds and other references. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Emergency Moderation

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/21/20 3:23 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > Is there an Emergency Moderation function (similar to the one that Mailman 2 had) with Mailman 3 core/Postorius? It's in core and it's just recently been exposed in REST https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/643 but it's not in Postorius yet. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty issue(s)

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/28/20 6:46 AM, brylon(a)oit.rutgers.edu wrote: > Yes it does list hyperkitty: > > mailman shell > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell > >>>> from mailman.config import config >>>> list(config.archivers) > [<mailman.archiving.mhonarc.MHonArc object at 0x7fa3c3f13358>, <mailman.archiving.mailarchive.MailArchive object at 0x7fa3c3f13828>, <mailman.archiving.prototype.Prototype object at 0x7fa3c3f13908>, <mailman_hyperkitty.Archiver object at 0x7fa3c3f13c18>] >>>> quit() > > Any other suggestions to try? Just grasping at straws, but have you stopped and started Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Emailing a list from the list server

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/1/20 10:02 AM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > > I cannot email a list from an account on the list server itself (for example, programmatically by script, but also manually) using mail / mailx / mutt / etc from the command line. The emails just disappear into the ether. What's in Postfix's mail.log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: New releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/9/20 10:17 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > Well, if I run "./manage.py compress" in the mailman-web container, I'm > getting > > CommandError: Offline compression is disabled. Set COMPRESS_OFFLINE or use > the --force to override. Do you have settings like > COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS = ( > ('text/x-scss', 'sassc -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'), > ('text/x-sass', 'sassc -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'), > ) > > COMPRESS_OFFLINE = True > COMPRESS_ENABLED = True in your settings? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Weird hourly indexing error

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/9/20 1:33 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > > It turns out that the offending email was actually a spam email that snuck through the filters somehow and then a couple of smart-ass list members replied to it a couple of times to propagate the goodness. > > I downloaded a copy (Mark, I will send it to you directly) and then deleted the thread. Thanks. I'll see about defending against this. > THANK YOU for all the help. I'm glad we finally got it resolved. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty CSS issue

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/15/20 5:14 AM, Ryan Morash wrote: > I tried both the –clear flag and removing everything in my static directory with no luck. Did you rerun compress after doing that? I don't know if it will help, but you might find clues in <https://django-compressor.readthedocs.io/en/stable/settings/>. in particular, look at all the COMPRESS* settings in your Django settings. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: ACL on archives

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/16/20 7:58 AM, pgrzywaczewski(a)gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > Is it possible to define permissions who can access archives? For example members of another list, or a single user? No. At least not currently. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Exception in the HyperKitty archiver: 'utf-8' codec can't encode characters

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/16/20 12:44 PM, Gilles Filippini wrote: > > I've experienced this error again today. Filed issue #301. Thank you, but see my comment at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/301#note_362369905> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: hyperkitty: "incorrect string value" for botched utf-8 encoding

by Mark Sapiro

Mark Sapiro wrote: > The underlying issue has been seen before. The basic problem is in MySQL > and MariaDB the encoding is utf8 which only accepts utf8 encodings up to > 3 bytes. It needs to be utf8mb4 to accept characters outside the base plane. > I know there is a thread on this somewhere, but I can't find it right now. The thread I was thinking of is https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/248

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Key Error when clicking on a list

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/21/20 4:12 AM, Jacob Bargery wrote: > Thank you for the help there. This is from the mailman.log file, it appears I must have something wrong with my hyperkitty module. mailman-hyperkitty is a separate package from HyperKitty, but it is required if you are configuring Mailman to use HyperKitty. See <https://hyperkitty.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install.html#connecting-to-mail…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty 403 Forbidden Error

by Mark Sapiro

Sorry for not replying earlier to this, but as noted, the underlying issue is that a redirect from http to https in the web server is losing POST data. While this can be fixed by munging the web server to not redirect http requests from local host, the preferred fix is to not use http in the first place. This is accomplished by using an https scheme in the setting for base_url in mailman-hyperkitty.cfg. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: HyperKitty failure

by Mark Sapiro

See my reply at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… for the preferred way to fix this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Splitting hosts: mta&core vs postorius

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/24/20 6:14 PM, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > > I think, possibly, that it is now installed and working. ... But I don't > know why. It's working because it should. The question is why wasn't it ;) It may have something to do with being logged in. It may fail again under the right circumstances. If so, try to narrow down what those are. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: User settings triggers error

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/28/20 4:39 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > > The patch does not apply cleanly against /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/models/email.py > > patching file email.py > patch: **** malformed patch at line 4: import os That probably isn't because of version mismatch. That would give applied at offset or with fuzz or a reject. malformed patch means the patch file is not formatted correctly. Here it is again as an attachment. That may help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: User settings triggers error

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/28/20 6:37 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > > OK, the patch against 1.3.0 appears to be working. Thank you. Good. >> I'm going fishing tomorrow so I won't be here much longer. >> > > Enjoy the fishing! Thanks, I will. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Moderation of posts via email is not working in mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/29/20 12:24 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > > Is there any bug or limitation in mailman 3 or if I am doing > any wrong at the server side? Please suggest. > This is a known issue in Mailman 3. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/169>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: timezone in hyperkitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/29/20 12:18 PM, Marco Marinello wrote: > I'm expirencing the same behaviour in Postorius. Is it possible to set a default timezone for new users? Already set it in settings_local.py but not having any effect, still seeing "Africa/Abidajin" in new users. Do you mean the users time zone as displayed in the user's profile? This is a Django setting and the default should come from the TIME_ZONE setting in settings_local.py, at least if USE_TZ is set True -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Moderation of posts via email is not working in mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/29/20 7:16 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > > But since the user is getting the "confirm" attachment to the mail, the > users are getting confused. Is there any work around to achieve this? or Is > there any way to remove that "confirm" attachment so that users would not > get an idea of confirming via email? You can apply the attached patch -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Using external services for deliverability?

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/4/20 8:50 AM, tom(a)gather.coop wrote: > Thank you both for the help. I have SPF and reverse DNS setup. But I thought DKIM is no help because Mailman rewrites the email headers, invalidating the signature? Am I not understanding that right? Asked and answered at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Using external services for deliverability?

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/10/20 8:10 PM, tom(a)gather.coop wrote: > Makes sense. So given that the opendkim milter matches on the From header, am I correct in telling opendkim to sign emails from *any* email address with my domain? > > So my whole SigningTable might be something like > > * mail._domainkey.mydomain.com Yes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: R: Re: mailman3 does not send to the members of the lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/12/20 5:17 PM, blackout69 wrote: > Hi, > > my mailman.cfg Your mailman.cfg is not the issue. Your issue is Postfix is delivering list mail to Dovecot rather than Mailman. This is a Postfix configuration issue. If you want us to look at it, `postconf -n` would help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Sudden increase in "***UNCHECKED***" in email subjects

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/18/20 9:30 AM, Dave Clements wrote: > Hi all, > > I have just noticed a big jump in the number of emails going out with > "***UNCHECKED***" added to the subject line. This does not come from Mailman. Some milter or other process in your MTA or elsewhere in the delivery chain is adding this to the Subject: -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Creating new lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/19/20 7:19 AM, Gilles Filippini wrote: > Brian Carpenter a écrit le 19/07/2020 à 15:58 : >> >> I believe you need to grant them superuser status in order to create >> lists. That can be accomplish via the Django admin panel: ...> > It works. Thanks! But then what is the purpose of being a domain owner? Domain owners should be able to create lists in their domains, but that's not available yet. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/291>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 not starting afte an upgrade -addendum

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/24/20 1:33 AM, Gelpi Andrea wrote: > > Is anything changed since two month aggo when I applied some pathces? What exactly are you asking? There have been multiple commits to the master branches of the Mailman components in the last two months and new releases of django-mailman3, hyperkitty and postorius in early June. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Running Mailman3 under supervisord

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/26/20 6:08 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hello world, > > Is it possible to run MM3 under supervisord? > What would I use for command= ?? I'm sure it's possible, but I can't tell you how to do it. You might get some hints from <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experience?action=At…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Creating superuser - problem with documentation or it's just me?

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/28/20 2:16 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > So, I should run /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin with a valid argument, > right? > Like /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin createsuperuser ... > How do I get all the available arguments for django-admin? That is what I > was attempting to do by passing --help to it. /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin with --help or no arguments at all. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Change language to welcome message in mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/30/20 4:29 AM, Massimo Zappalà wrote: > But I solved it by changing the value "en" with "it" in the mailman3 database, the mailinglist table, the preferred_language column. > Now those who subscribe to the list receive a Welcome email in Italian. But in your post at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> you said you did that via mailman shell. Was that change not effective or was that for a different list? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: A little stuck with installation of MM3 - ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'flufl.lock'

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/30/20 1:53 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > os.environ.setdefault("DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE", "settings") Try changing this one line in wsgi.py to os.environ["DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE"] = "settings" If that doesn't work, try adding these two lines following the line import os import sys sys.path.insert(0, '/opt/mailman/mm') -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Owner's or Moderator's Lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/31/20 10:32 AM, Johnny Cison wrote: > I feel like I'm missing something obvious, but is there a page in Postorius > that lists all of the lists of which the user is the owner or moderator? What Postorius version are you looking at? Since 1.2.2, Postorius has a 'filter by roll' button at the top of the list on the /lists/ page. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to Unshunt Specific Message ?

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/11/20 1:46 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > > I learnt how to unshunt the messages that got unshunted in > mailman 3. But the command *mailman unshunt* would unshunt all the messages > in the shunt queue. > > I want only a specific message to be unshunted and resent. I > don't find my requirement reached with the help of *mailman unshunt*. You need to move all the unwanted messages out of the shunt queue before running unshunt. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Removing users account

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/11/20 7:34 AM, Massimo Zappalà wrote: > Hi everybody, > is there a method that allows the list administrator to delete a user account? No. The account belongs to the user, not the list and could be associated with more than one list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Missing mailman archives?

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/11/20 10:54 AM, Marco Marinello wrote: > Hi Mark, > > thank you. I now have 2 problems. > 1. If I add to the mailman.cfg file the Hyperkitty part, Mailman recieves the emails from the smtp but won't send out anything; There should be error messages with tracebacks in mailman.log for this issue. > 2. Even adding prototype enable yes won't save anything to the archives. > [archiver.prototype] > enable: yes And this one too. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hold messages that have binary attachments

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/12/20 9:37 AM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: > Is there a way to configure a list automatically put a hold on messages > that have binary attachments such as jpgs, pngs, etc? You can use header matching rules (Header filters) for this: E.g., Header = content-type Pattern = image/ Action = Hold will hold all messages with attached images A pattern like ^(?!(text/|multipart/|message/|application/.*signature)) will match any message that has an elemental part that isn't text/ or some kind of signature. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Announce Only List

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/13/20 9:29 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Don't we have a list style for announce lists? If we don't, we > should.... We do, but it needs work. Currently all it does compared to the ordinary discussion list style is set Include the list post header to No. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Announce Only List

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/14/20 3:36 AM, w.schoener(a)alp.dillingen.de wrote: > Hello Stephen, > how did you create this action, to dump all emails but that of a couple of authorized members? > Did you use onboard tools or did you have to create custom scripts for this? See the beginning of this thread at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: New releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/12/20 12:26 PM, brylon(a)oit.rutgers.edu wrote: > $ pip show django-compressor > Name: django-compressor > Version: 2.4 > <snip> It works for me with django-compressor 2.4. What exactly do you have for COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS IN YOUR Django settings? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: New releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/12/20 3:00 PM, brylon(a)oit.rutgers.edu wrote: > $ grep -i compress settings_local.py > 'compressor', > COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS = ( > ('text/x-scss', 'sass -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'), > ('text/x-sass', 'sass -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'), > COMPRESS_OFFLINE = True > COMPRESS_ENABLED = True See <https://django-compressor.readthedocs.io/en/stable/settings/#django.conf.se…>. For some reason, django_compress is interpreting your 'sass -t compressed {infile} {outfile}' and 'sass -t compressed {infile} {outfile}' strings as filters rather than commands. I don't know why this would be. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Re-send subscription response and file permission error in queue

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/15/20 5:37 AM, accounts-mailman(a)holbrook.no wrote: > > By the way, I never got notification about this reply by email. You have email delivery disabled and you read and post from HyperKitty. This is fine, but there are no push notifications from HK about activity in threads you are involved in. There are indications in the summaries that a thread has messages you haven't read, but you have to look. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Template path

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/17/20 12:19 PM, Seth Seeger wrote: > > I found this (older) email: > > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… > > that does say that the POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL should be “http://mailman-web:8000” You've exhausted my very limited knowledge of the Docker install. Hopefully Abhilash (@maxking) or someone else will chime in. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: The message is larger than the 40 KB maximum size

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/18/20 12:32 PM, Mohsen Masoudfar wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to find how I may change this. I have an attachment of 800 KB, and when I post it to the list, I do not get any response and nothing is hold. It looks like the message is just dropped. > Is the message in Mailman's var/queue/shunt queue? Is there an error in var/log/mailman.log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: The message is larger than the 40 KB maximum size

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/22/20 11:16 AM, Mohsen Masoudfar wrote: > I checked the mailman.log and found the issue. I assume you mean why the message disappeared after approval. If so, what was the issue? I.e., was it something unique to your installation such as permissions or configuration, or was it something we need to fix? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: API timeout for one list

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/22/20 12:45 PM, Seth Seeger wrote: > I apologize, because I think this was talked about before, but I could not find it in the archives. > > For one list, the REST API times out. Doesn’t seem to matter which page I try to go to. The uwsgi-error.log entry: > ... > The other lists work fine. This can happen on lists with lots of members. Try increasing the timeout. See <https://wiki.list.org/x/17892072> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Missing whitespace in postfix_vmap after mailman genaliases

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/23/20 3:08 PM, Wolfgang Bock via Mailman-users wrote: > > Dear Mark, > > I am running mailman3 (version 3.2.1) on debian buster. ... > Is the debian buster version of mailman3 not uptodate?? That is correct. The latest release and the one with this fix is 3.3.1 released 2020-04-19. Debian Buster has 3.2.1, released 2019-02-22. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: New releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/25/20 2:00 PM, brylon(a)oit.rutgers.edu wrote: > So the issue was resolved for me by installing sassc (and libsass) via yum and abandoning rubygem-sass (thereby also updating COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS to use 'sassc'). I had forgotten that I had seen this myself. I have now filed <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/319> for this issue. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cron error

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/29/20 4:59 AM, Gordon Dickens wrote: > Hi Mark, > Thanks for the reply! > I have removed the lock file as you recommended. Has the error recurred? If so, what is the content of var/lib/mailman3/locks/? What do you see if you run /usr/bin/mailman manually with no arguments? It should print some help text and a list of commands. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: File "/usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py", line 1148, in getresponse raise ResponseNotReady()

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/3/20 3:07 AM, Alex Schuilenburg via Mailman-users wrote: > > However, it would be interesting to know what ends up in your archive? See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/320#note_423109595> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Subscription Acceptance

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/10/20 6:25 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > Hello MM3 Users, > > Is the MM2 function: "List of addresses (or regexps) whose subscriptions > do not require approval." going to end up in Mailman 3 or is there no > plans to include it? This is or at least is related to <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/106>. No one is working on it, but the request is there. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Adding members to a mailman3 mailing list

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/14/20 5:06 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > COMMAND: > sudo -u mailman mailman3 members --add members.txt list(a)example.com > > OUTPUT: > usage: mailman members [OPTIONS] LISTSPEC > Try 'mailman members -h' for help. > > Error: Invalid value for '--add' / '-a': Could not open file: > members.txt: Permission denied Since you are running the command as user `mailman`, the file must be readable by that user. Is it? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Adding members to a mailman3 mailing list

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/14/20 8:25 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > See file permissions and ownership above. Unless mailman3 expects a > certain Selinux context. It could be a SeLinux issue. Mailman itself has nothing to do with SeLinux. It just tries to open the file for reading. This is all in your SeLinux configuration. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Change Default Settings

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/20 9:04 AM, Dieter Leupold via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi Team, > > I want to change default settings (like "welcome message" to set to no) > for the lists to create. How can i do that? The simplest way is to patch mailman/styles/base.py. In some cases, a setting is defined in more than one class for different list styles. The more complex way is to implement your own style with the settings you want and chose that when creating lists. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius password resets

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/14/20 11:11 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Hi, > > I am having an issue with our system where password resets are giving the users an email with a http://localhost:8000 URL. I have made sure settings in settings_local.py (and even settings.py) are as follows: > > POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL = 'https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org' This is not relevant. > However emails are still coming through with the wrong URL. I'm not sure offhand, but it's either domains in Postorius or sites in the django admin UI. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Wrong info in moderation mail when held due to match of a header rule

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/18/20 6:52 AM, Torge Riedel wrote: > > Filed as https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/785 > > I also added a suggestion similar to the ones you did. And also the idea > of a comment field for each rule to give additional information to the > moderator. Thanks for doing that. I'll work on that after core 3.3.2final is released and the string freeze is lifted. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: migration from 2.1 - owners and moderators

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/24/20 5:34 PM, Alex Schuilenburg via Mailman-users wrote: > > Thanks for reminding me I need to upgrade :-) 3.2.1 Does not have "notify" Yes, It did not appear until 3.3.0. > I'll wager that the sporadic notification messages are down to this > version, so upgrading just bumped up my todo. What is your setting for admin_immed_notify (Postorius Settings -> Automatic Responses -> Admin immed notify)? This should definitely be Yes if you don't have `mailman notify`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/20 6:27 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Any suggestions over my earlier email? I am waiting for your > reply. Be patient. I am a volunteer and I have a life outside of Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/20 12:46 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > > *### Mailmanclient Version ###* > > *commit aaa529808e2d61899f90509da4ea802a70d2c8ff* > *Merge: ff39dd8 8670751* > *Author: Abhilash Raj <maxking(a)asynchronous.in <maxking(a)asynchronous.in>>* > *Date: Thu Oct 15 01:09:32 2020 +0000* This mailmanclient is up to date and does define the get_requests_count mailing list attribute, so this version must not be whats running in your mailman installation. Did you install it? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/20 11:20 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > Can I go back to any previous version which is felt as working fine ? Sure. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Member Issue Discovered

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/20 1:41 PM, Apollinaris Schöll wrote: > If this has been implemented already then that’s good. I have not tested with latest. > > Does this also happen when a user unsubscribes or a list admin unsubscribes? No, it only happens when a user deletes their account. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty: usage of h2-tags

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/2/20 3:29 AM, Peter Münster wrote: > Hi, > > Why does Hyperkitty use h2-tags for the last line before the signature > please? > > Example: > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… HyperKitty on lists.mailman3.org and mail.python.org has an unreleased markdown rendering engine. Messages in the archive are rendered in markdown. In particular, a line beginning with `##` is rendered as an `<h2>`. See, e.g., <https://www.markdownguide.org/cheat-sheet/> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Change Default Settings

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/3/20 2:16 AM, Dieter Leupold via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi Team, > > still another question: are these settings lost in case of a version > update? The short answer is probably yes. The longer answer depends on exactly how the changes were implemented. In my case, I routinely update multiple servers from the HEADs of the GitLab branches. I keep all local mods as patch files and my update process basically gets the branch from GitLab and then applies all the local patches. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Digest Formatting

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/20 8:45 PM, mailman(a)manygoodideas.com wrote: > It appears that a digest is formatted as: > > list:member:digest:masthead > 1. Thread 1 > ... > N. Thread N > > foreach thread > list:member:digest:header > thread > list:member:digest:footer The absence of a `Message: n` header at the beginning of each message was a bug <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/764> that is fixed for the 3.3.2 release of Mailman core. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: members list in Postorius

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/10/20 6:30 AM, Peter Münster wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I display the members list of a mailing list please? > > The setting of "Members List Visibility" is "Only mailing list members". > So I guess that a member should be able to see the members list somewhere... This is a bug. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/369> Mailman 3.3.2 has an email `who` command that enables list members to get a membership list if the visibility allows it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/16/20 4:02 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hello good people, > > So today I decided that I should be looking at MM3 to see how far it can > take me. > I started from the templates and created one for a footer for non-digest > messages. How did you create this footer?. If you created it by creating a file in Mailman's var/templates directiory, can Mailman read it? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Moderated Signup with "info" box?

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/7/20 7:55 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > Thank you for the clarification. I did not know that. Is that made clear > in the documentation? See <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Message moderatin without login

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/20 2:02 PM, Michael Lorenzen wrote: > Hi, > > are there any plans to allow message moderation without having to login to posterious? ... > I tried to reply on the mail attachment with the confirm ... subject, but that did not seem to work (neither reject nor accept with approved: placed into the first line of the mail). This is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/169>, and yes, we plan to fix it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Version mismatch

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/20 8:22 AM, Szymon Sokół wrote: > Another question is why it says: > Mailman Core API Version 3.0 > when this page: https://wiki.list.org/Mailman3 > claims that API version for core versions >=3.1 is 3.1… The REST API version 3.1 is only available in core >=3.1, but API version 3.0 is also supported. There were breaking changes in the API which is why there are multiple versions, but a client can still use version 3.0 if it works for the client. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: troubleshooting hyperkitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/9/20 9:39 PM, Morris Jones wrote: > > I tried this but it may not be the right syntax: > > [logging.archiver] > level: debug > path: /opt/mailman/var/logs/archiver.log That is correct. You should also be looking at mailman.log and your Django log (as configured in settings.py) BTW, is archiving enabled for the list? See Postorius -> Settings -> Archiving. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: troubleshooting hyperkitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/10/20 8:49 AM, Morris Jones wrote: > > But there's something ominous just below that setting, a headline that > says "Active archivers" with no value beside it. That's strange. It should be populated with things like [] hyperkitty [] prototype with a check box for each archiver for which `enable` is `yes` in the corresponding `archiver.xxx` section in mailman.cfg. What does `bin/mailman conf -k enable` show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Importing config and archives only partially succeeded?

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/12/20 5:24 PM, Eric Broens via Mailman-users wrote: > I just notice in the webserver logfile, the same request for the same mlist, msgid and key several times per second for about 3 hours now: > "GET /archives/api/mailman/urls?mlist=....&msgid=...&key=... HTTP/1.1" 200 105 "-" "python-requests/2.25.0" Is there a message in Mailman's var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ directory? If so, what's logged in mailman's mailman.log -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Permission denied for /list:member:digest:header.txt

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/14/20 3:19 AM, Eric Broens via Mailman-users wrote: > Thanks Andi, > I understand that it is a Unix permissions issue.The question is, what process created these files and directories? Mailman runs with its own user. Since these files and directories were created automatically, I expected that these would have been created with the correct permissions. You ran the hyperkitty_import job for these lists as root. It needs to be run as the Mailman user. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Permission denied for /list:member:digest:header.txt

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/14/20 3:58 AM, Eric Broens via Mailman-users wrote: > The installation was done according to the information provided in Mailman - The GNU Mailing List Management System — GNU Mailman 3.3.3b1 documentation https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html#id1 says specifically to not run mailman commands as root. While it is refering the the `mailman` commands in particular, the implication is the same for the django-admin commands. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: moderator cannot login to the list

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/16/20 4:36 AM, Gregory Edigarov via Mailman-users wrote: > Hello, > > the import went fine, I am able to login into postorius as admin, and > see all imported mail list data. > but login as a moderator member of a list. I tried to reset moderator > password via rest api. > That doesn't help. > > how is that supposed to be done? The Moderator needs to go to https://example.com/accounts/signup/ and signup for an account and log in. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: export and import database?

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/4/21 5:15 AM, Andreas Barth wrote: > > is there an recommended way to export and import all of the > configuration in the database (so that I could change the database on > import, i.e. not on database level)? Mailman 2.1 has a config_list script that can do this, at least list by list, but so far, no similar capability exists in Mailman 3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: django fake users

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/13/21 5:45 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Hi, > > Mark got a script together a few weeks ago which deletes the non-active users which I am in the process of getting together as a Cron job to fix this issue. See <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> for the post containing the script attachment. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mails for 1 specific mailinglist not being send and looping in out queue

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/14/21 3:26 AM, Eric Broens via Mailman-users wrote: > These mails keep looping for days in the out queue and are never shunted. > Looks to me as a serious bug. > Is there anything that can be done for this? Is this possibly <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/745> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Subscription request cannot be moderated: 404 Not Found

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/9/21 5:39 AM, Eric Broens via Mailman-users wrote: > For one of our mailinglists we also have a problem with accepting a subscription request. > When Clicking "Accept", we get a 404 Not found error. > See the attached screenshot. > Is there a way to solve this? Content filtering removed your screenshot so we can't see it. What is the URL that gives the 404? How does this compare to the URL of the held message view? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to approve moderated messages via email?

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/22/21 11:16 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > What is the protocol to approve moderated messages via email? I hope I > asking the question correctly. > You can't. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/169> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Module Not Found Error after update

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/4/21 8:29 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > I went to upgrade Mailman 3/Hyperkitty/Postorius on a development server: > > |pip install --upgrade postorius hyperkitty mailman| You left off django-mailman3 > ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'django_mailman3.lib.user' > > Please advise. You need django-mailman3 1.3.5 While all are not required in this case, when you upgrade like this with pip, you should upgrade all of django-mailman3, hyperkitty, mailman, mailmanclient, mailman-hyperkitty and postorius. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Footer

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/6/21 12:50 PM, Eric Broens via Mailman-users wrote: > > Do I need to install/configure something additionally to get a process listening on port 8000? No, you need to set POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL to a url that works to get to Postorius. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: error changed after restart

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/6/21 10:44 AM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > > I'm using sqlite as django database and mysql for mailman. I'm not certain about this, but having separate databases for Django and Mailman core may be an issue. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Sync list members

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/7/21 2:44 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > Hello, > > Outside of using the REST API, are there any other ways to sync a > Mailman 3 roster with a file that contains list members? If I understand correctly what you mean, see the `mailman syncmembers --help`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius upgrade issue

by Mark Sapiro

> > On the Postorius list admin page (where moderated subscriptions etc can > be seen) although the top horizontal menu is present and the links > exist, all the links are to that page (i.e. href="#') > > Is this a known issue, and how can I fix it? Pre upgrade all was well. Did you run the Django admin commands `collectstatic` `compress` and `compilemessages` after upgrading? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius upgrade issue

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/8/21 3:38 PM, Joel Lord wrote: > So I tried to do this after upgrading, fortunately only from 1 point > release back, and I get "ModuleNotFoundError: No module named > 'paintstore'" from the collectstatic. Do you still have 'paintstore' in INSTALLED_APPS in your Django settings? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problems with web interface after upgrade

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/9/21 11:11 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > So I am pretty sure you are going to need to install something like Dart > Sass. Perhaps the following thread might be helpful: > > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… Or, on recent Debian/Ubuntu at least, just ``` apt install sassc ``` See <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/hyperkitty/en/latest/install.html#instal…> and <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/devsetup.html?#getting-prerequisites> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Reason for Shunting

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/9/21 2:03 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > Is there a way to determine why a message keeps ending up in the shunt > queue? > Look in mailman.log for the `SHUNTING` message and the traceback that immediately preceeds it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman, etc. upgrade woes and persistent bugs

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/12/21 10:27 AM, Allan Hansen wrote: > They need to resubscribe to each list they want the new address to be used for. > Subscriptions involves permissions from the moderators. It’s not a > simple process, especially if you are on many lists. Not true if they have a Django account. See my reply at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman, etc. upgrade woes and persistent bugs

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/12/21 5:55 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > > I don't know if there are any downsides to letting users re-enable > their delivery on their own. It's been that way in MM 2.1 forever and doesn't seem to be an issue. Also, although I haven't checked, even though the users delivery disabled by bounce doesn't show as disabled, I suspect that setting it to enabled would work. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: translating templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/21 2:04 PM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > > P.S.: anyway, I did a merge request in gitlab as you advised. But your MR <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/780> didn't actually add the templates, so I created <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/781> and merged it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Imported Digest Settings

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/21 2:28 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > The beginning of my OP stated I was using Mailman 3.3.3. Then please get me a copy of the complete raw digest message so I can try to find the underlying issue. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: 3rd Party Account is not working

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/21 7:27 PM, kwp.klein(a)gmail.com wrote: > I want t disable all social account providers. I need an example and the name of the file. I'm not certain this will do what you want,, but in your Django local settings (probably settings_local.py) put SOCIALACCOUNT_PROVIDERS = {} You can also remove 'allauth.socialaccount' and any 'allauth.socialaccount.providers.*' from INSTALLED_APPS and in the Dgango web admin interface under Social Accounts › Social applications, if any are listed, delete them. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: 3rd Party Account is not working

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/21 8:20 PM, Aaron Klein wrote: > This is my local_settings.py. The social account icons are not deleted. you need to ensure that they are deleted from the Dgango web admin interface under Social Accounts › Social applications > 2. I don't find the Social Accounts › Social applications. where I have to search? It is in the Django web UI. Assuming you have something like url(r'^django/', admin.site.urls), in your urls.py, not commented, it wuoul be a url like https://example.com/admin/socialaccount/socialapp/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: 3rd Party Account is not working

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/21 11:40 PM, Jörg Klein wrote: > I logged in in the Django Web. But the social buttons are still visible. > > Select social application to change > ADD SOCIAL APPLICATION > 0 social applications If you have removed them from Django as above and also set SOCIALACCOUNT_PROVIDERS = {} and removed the allauth.socialaccount.providers.* entries from INSTALLED_APPS in your Django settings, then I don't know what the problem is. Actually just removing the allauth.socialaccount.providers.* entries from INSTALLED_APPS should be enough. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Weblate spanish translation of templates (was: Re: spanish localization)

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/18/21 3:57 AM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > > Done. Now the Weblate translation of templates is consistent with the > gitlab src repository. Thank you for your work on this. It is much appreciated. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: A new issue with installation (solved)

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/20/21 10:02 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > Do you think I need to add these steps to my How to Install Mailman 3 on > Debian 10 documentation? > > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Howto_Install_Mailman3_On_Debian10 I think it would be good. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: postfix malformed address with confirm replies

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/27/21 4:36 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > Mark says that > > matsmats-mm3-test1-confirm+d6f77a2572ef55a8b2c4ca0d77de8493fbb55856(a)mm3.aca-aws.s.uw.edu > > is legal, and I think that most servers will accept it, but RFC 5321 > sets a limit of 64 octets on mailboxes[1], and your confirmation > mailbox is 67 octets. Since the -confirm+<token> part is fixed at 49 octets, this would imply a limit in list names of 15 octets. Ouch! -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: How to disable subscribe by mail in mailman3?

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/28/21 1:43 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: > > To avoid unnecessary moderation, I'd like to disable subscription by mail but still allow subscription through the web interface. > > (I've already hacked some code to dissallow subscribe by mail through posteros.) You could just remove mailman/commands/eml-membership.py, This would also disable unsubscribe by email. If you didn't want to do that, you could remove the Join and Subscribe classes and leave the Leave and Unsubscribe classes. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /hyperkitty/list/direttivo@catania.linux.it/top-threads

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/28/21 3:34 PM, blackout69 wrote: > When I say that it stops working, I mean that all members of the lists > no longer receive messages. Postorius and Hyperkitty continue to work What happened to the posts that were sent and not delivered. are they in Mailman's var/queue/shunt/ queue? Are there errors reported in Mailman's mailman.log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /hyperkitty/list/direttivo@catania.linux.it/top-threads

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/28/21 4:00 PM, blackout69 wrote: > No errors in my mailman.log > After restarting the mailman3 and mailman3-web services, the posts > arrived regularly. So the posts must have been in one of Mailman's queues (maybe `in` or `pipeline`, not `out` unless the messages were successfully archived before the restart) and the corresponding runner was hung or gone. There should be some indication in mailman.log if a runner died. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /hyperkitty/list/direttivo@catania.linux.it/top-threads

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/1/21 11:26 AM, blackout69 wrote: > mailman.log does not report anything about the dead runner. However I > would like to know where I find the status of the various runners (in, > pipeline and out)Thank you ps -fwwA |grep runner= or ps xaww |grep runner= or however you spell it. Also grep runner /path/to/mailman/var/log/mailman.log -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Domain ownership issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/2/21 1:55 PM, peter(a)chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: > > The 'error on deletion' goes away after upgrading to Mailman 3.3. But > the original issue (domain owners can't create lists) is still there. This is still very much a work in progress. Currently domain owners can (I think) create domain specific templates, but they can't create lists in their domains. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Domain ownership issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/2/21 2:46 PM, peter(a)chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: > > So is there any way to delegate list creation? Or does the site owner You should be able to do it via REST outside of Postorius, but that would involve setting up some web form to actually do it. Or you could work on implementing it in Postorius and submit a merge request. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Email Commands

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/7/21 1:59 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > Is there a list of email commands on a website somewhere that you can > use with Mailman 3? > https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/d… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Setting for archiving multi email domains?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/8/21 3:38 AM, Duane Raymond wrote: > > I did again and this bounce message has disappeared - but instead it is shunting - so no bounce comes back now. If messages are shunted, they are being delivered to Mailman, so the Postfix issue is apparently resolved. What is the full error including traceback from Mailman's mailman.log for the shunted messages? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: statistics monitoring for Mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/11/21 7:03 PM, Mohsen Masoudfar wrote: > Hi, > > I am wondering if there is a monitoring application available for Mailman3 to display statistics about the number of emails send for each maillist. The data are in Mailman's smtp.log, but I'm not aware of anyone who's written anything to analyze it. It would be fairly easy to do depending on exactly what you want. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: statistics monitoring for Mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/12/21 11:22 AM, Mohsen Masoudfar wrote: > I was checking on log rotating on smtp.log. On my server it does not rotate. I could use log-rotator to rotate that, but could not find any information how to inform the mailman process of the rotation, e.g. which signal to send him? The `mailman reopen` command is the recommended way, or you can send the `master` a SIGUSR1. The master's PID is in the file var/master.pid or /var/run/mailman/master.pid if you've configured `layout: fhs`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: hyperkitty.views.mailman Could not archive the email with message-id '<snip>': A string literal cannot contain NUL (0x00) characters

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/11/21 4:41 PM, Gilles Filippini wrote: > > This is Hyperkitty 1.3.4. > I'll file an issue tomorrow. Thanks for reporting this. It is now fixed. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/merge_requests/121> for the actual fix. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: hooking up mailman and sendmail

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/14/21 12:58 AM, John Covici wrote: > Hi. So, I have sendmail as my mta and I want mailman to use it. So > far, I have a local delivery agent able to send on port 8024. So, > what do I have to tell mailman to use sendmail and listen on port 8024 > and to send on port 25? Nothing. By default, Mailman's LMTP runner (server) listens for incoming mail via LMTP on localhost port 8024 and Mailman sends outgoing mail via SMTP to localhost port 25. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

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