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[MM3-users] Re: Restore/export existing Mailman lists + hyperkitty archives on a new server

by Kimmo L

Okay. Maybe i should to the same and replace my existing configuration with gunicorn. Is it complicated to do that change ? I ask because this gunicorn term is quite new for me.

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 not processing some mails from specific user

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/12/22 11:26, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > You could try running "mailman unshunt", which may produce a helpful > error message if for some reason it can't do so. Unshunt won't issue an error. It will just move the message back to the original queue. Then, presumably, processing will throw the same exception which should be logged in mailman.log, and the message will be shunted again. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Message-Footer after migrating to Mailman3

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Peter Münster writes: > On Mon, May 24 2021, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > var/templates/site/de/list:member:generic:footer.txt Note "de" in the above. > I have created an empty file > /var/lib/mailman/templates/site/en/list:member:generic:footer.txt Do you really mean "en"? If the user's primary language setting is de, I presume /var/lib/mailman/templates/site/de/list:member:generic:footer.txt will override /var/lib/mailman/templates/site/en/list:member:generic:footer.txt Steve

2 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Restore/export existing Mailman lists + hyperkitty archives on a new server

by Kimmo L

Big thanks Steve! Let me know, if there is anything else i can check or share. I will try to do some testing myself as well, but im out of ideas as well. I even tried the same thing with other lists and the same issue occurs. (Switched anonymous list to ON) Br, Kimmo

2 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Footer from templates not working - DB issue?

by chris＠mehl.one

Hi, I am running Mailman3 on Debian 11 with Apache and MariaDB. Single installation. When I edit a footer from the WebUI templates, it doesn't show in the messages. Could it be an issue with the related DB? If so - what do I need to change? Many thanks in advance for any leads! Chris

2 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Footer from templates not working - DB issue?

by mailman＠ma.yer.at

Dear All, I have a similar issue. Also on Debian 11. Also installed as Debian PKG. It's version GNU Mailman 3.3.3 (Tom Sawyer) I am using sqlite3. When I do the SQL-query I get an URI which is in multiple reasons wrong http://localhost/mailman3/postorius/api/templates/list/....../list:member:r… OK - the hostname could be changed but the path is not existing at all. There is no file "list:member:regular:footer" on the complete filesystem. Kind regards Hans

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] mailman-full question

by flatley

Hello, i have successfully installed mailman3 with postgres using the venv method - testing the install of mailman-full package i have some questions - to configure the db in venv i would use mailman-web migrate - this works fine - but mailman-full install does not seem to include mailman-web or mailman3-web - the mailman info cmd works fine - do i need to also install mailman-web? i had thought the mailman-full included all components thanks

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: All addresses in a bounced list posting seem to be considered as bouncing

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Andy Smith writes: > It isn't recommended to mix packages from different releases of course, It's not supported by Debian. But if you need to do it, usually it's preferred to rolling your own or pip'ing into the system directories.

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Default setting for Delivery status

by Mark Dale

Hi, Where and how do I set the default setting of "Delivery status" to be "Enabled". I'm not seeing any clues in mailman3-web/settings.py At the moment, a new subscriber is neither "Enabled" or "Disabled". Thanks, Mark

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Is there a way to see all the list's held messages

by bob B

I run mailman but do not admin the lists. Is there a way for me to see all the held messages for all the lists?

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Upgrading packages

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/13/22 11:34, Eggert Ehmke wrote: > > In the meantime I run > pip install --upgrade --force-reinstall git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty@master > > and that installed the correct renderer.py. Should I do this with all packages? I think that would be good just to be safe. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] URL-lines in templates get folded

by Frank Steinberg

Hi, I’ve added links to some templates to give owners and moderators shortcuts to the postorius UI for moderation tasks, e.g., I’ve added https://lists.xxx.de/postorius/lists/$list_id/held_messages <https://lists.xxx.de/postorius/lists/$list_id/held_messages> Unfortunately those lines seem to exceed a certain limit and get folded, so that they appear as, e.g. https://lists.xxx.de/postorius/lists/$list_id/held_ <https://lists.xxx.de/postorius/lists/$list_id/held_> messages (or similar) and are not directly useful. Do you have any suggestion for this situation?

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] No DBA password when installing Mailman3 with remote database server

by Markus Ludwig Grandpré

Dear Mailman3 list, I try to install the Mailman3 software 3.3.3-1 on a Debian 11 system with a remote Postgres database server. During the installation process dpkg is asking for the DBA password that our DBA team would not provide to me. So what can I do? Best regards, Markus -- Markus Ludwig Grandpré Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung IT-Dienste Forschung und Lehre, Tel: ++49 7531 88 4342

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Adding list via web form

by fstltna＠yahoo.com

Trying to add a list using the web form but I get this: "Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists". Do I need to log in somewhere? I thought I was logged in as admin but maybe not?

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] MTA authentication and smtpd_sender_login_maps

by Jan Eden

Hi, I installed Mailman3 successfully and would like to change the default smtp settings to an authenticated connection (smtp_user, smtp_pass). But my Postfix configuration restricts sending messages via the smtpd_sender_login_maps directive (which points to a hashed file I created years ago) and correctly refuses connections for messages with the test mailing list's From header. I obviously do not want to add an entry to the map file for each mailing list created by someone on the server. Is there a way to programmatically create a sender login map with Mailman? Thanks, Jan

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problems after update to mailman 3.3.7

by Danil Smirnov

On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 5:12 PM Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > Too late for that... Doy you know what components could I downgrade to > avoid this? SQLAlchemy? Which versions of which packages could I > downgrade to work prpoerly? > I suppose you can downgrade the mailman package to version 3.3.6 which should also downgrade SQLAlchemy to the 1.3.x version. (However I haven't tested this path by myself, so please do a backup first.) Danil

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Broken web UI after upgrade

by Odhiambo Washington

After upgrading MM3 and running all the post-update tasks and even re-indexing all the posts, I have ended up with a somehow "broken" hyperkitty. The archives display on a browser six, to say the least. The site is public, so I can share the link: https://list.rc.org/archives/ What should I do in order to fix this? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] MM3 List Templates

by Odhiambo Washington

I am reading https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experience regarding templates and I am confused about whether to treat the path /opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/*site*/en/ literally or even if that information is still relevant. I created the exact path and put those templates in there, but they do not show up on Postorius. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] SMTPNotSupportedError when requesting new password

by Eggert Ehmke

I get this error when a user tries to use the "forgot password" function in hyperkitty. Obviously the exception is thrown when the send_mail function is called in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/allauth/account/adapter.py In settings.py I have: EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend' EMAIL_HOST = 'localhost' EMAIL_PORT = 25 EMAIL_HOST_USER = 'valid email' EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = 'valid password' What can I do to debug further?

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Emergency moderation and clearing out a lot of held messages

by Dan Caballero

Thanks Abhilash. Just to clarify, I do observe the latency in my test/dev environment which is a Docker Desktop container running with a local MariaDB instance. I load backup from my production system onto the local MariaDB instance for all dev/test work.

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Apache

by Lars Bjørndal

I have already Apache installed and running for mailman2 and other resources. How do I serve mailman3 from Apache for the respective domains? Thanks in advance Lars

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Apache

by Odhiambo Washington

On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 9:49 AM Lars Bjørndal <lars(a)lamasti.net> wrote: > I have already Apache installed and running for mailman2 and other > resources. How do I serve mailman3 from Apache for the respective > domains? > > Thanks in advance > Lars It's just a matter of creating another virtualhost. If you run 'apachectl -S', you'll probably realize that you have a virtualhost type of config. So you just add one more and configure it according to your chosen method of serving MM3 pages - mod_wsgi, uWSGI, gunicorn, etc. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Twitter OAuth2

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/30/22 23:40, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 7:51 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >> >> Did you run `django-admin migrate` after uncommenting >> 'allauth.socialaccount.providers.twitter', in your settings? >> > > I always do whenever I change anything in settings. I'm out of ideas. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Apache

by Lars Bjørndal

Thank you! You wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 9:49 AM Lars Bjørndal <[1]lars(a)lamasti.net> wrote: > > I have already Apache installed and running for mailman2 and other > resources. How do I serve mailman3 from Apache for the respective > domains? > > Thanks in advance > Lars > > > It's just a matter of creating another virtualhost. > If you run 'apachectl -S', you'll probably realize that you have a virtualhost > type of config. Actually 'apachectl -S' gives me: apachectl: The "-S" option is not supported. But you and others pointed me in a good direction. Lars

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Extracting mailing list users

by Eggert Ehmke

Hello Steve, I really would appreciate to get some help on the withlist command. I really like to program python, but this interface is not at all intuitive. I also find it strange to do administrative tasks in a programming language. In this special case, I believe it should be possible to work on the display names in Postorius in the member settings.

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: SPF check fails for lists subdomain

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/4/23 14:02, Jan Eden via Mailman-users wrote: > > Although I could specify the IP address in my SPF records directly (as > you suggested), I do hope that my understanding of DNS records laid out > above is not entirely misguided. My current setup does work as expected > for eden.one, after all. As I said at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> I was misreading your DNS and now I am as puzzled as you about the failure. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: New year releases!

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/4/23 16:39, Dan Caballero wrote: > Thanks Mark. The migration completes after I updated the curls.py file. > > I do see some warnings... > > "WARNINGS: > django_mailman3.MailDomain: (models.W042) Auto-created primary key used when not defining a primary key type, by default 'django.db.models.AutoField'. > HINT: Configure the DEFAULT_AUTO_FIELD setting or the DjangoMailman3Config.default_auto_field attribute to point to a subclass of AutoField, e.g. 'django.db.models.BigAutoField'. Set DEFAULT_AUTO_FIELD = 'django.db.models.AutoField' in your Django settings to eliminate those warnings. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Archive import fails: "IndexError: list index out of range"

by Johannes Rohr

Am 08.01.23 um 08:04 schrieb Stephen J. Turnbull: > [...] > First I would try the check_hk_import script which is provided with > HyperKitty. (You may also want to use the Mailman 2.1 cleanarch > script to check for unescaped 'From ' lines, or the script at > https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/cleanarch2 which can do that and check > for unparseable Date: headers as well.) Thanks a lot, Steve! Well, I was lazy and simply deleted all the messages that had been successfully imported and the one where the failure occurred, and after that, the import finished just fine. Johannes

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] mailman-web causing constant 100% cpu load of mysqld

by Johannes Rohr

Dear all, with mailmanweb running, the CPU load of mysqld constantly hovers around 100% In /var/log/mysql/errors.log I see repeatedly: 2023-01-13 17:22:42 27198 [Warning] Aborted connection 27198 to db: 'mailman_core' user: 'mailman' host: 'localhost' (Got an error reading communication packets) 2023-01-13 17:27:43 29621 [Warning] Aborted connection 29621 to db: 'mailman_core' user: 'mailman' host: 'localhost' (Got an error reading communication packets) This also seems to affect other services such as dovecot which rely on mysql and at times can't connect to it. Does anyone have a suggestion what to do about this? Cheers, Johannes

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Can't see held messages

by Massimiliano Paragnani

Hi everybody, I've a new installation in my own vps. Everything works if I set "Deliver immediately" but if I turn on the "hold for moderation" I can't see the mails in web interface and I can't confirm the delivery or discard. What information do you need to help me?

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Language switch

by Massimiliano Paragnani

Hi, I can't set other languages in MM3 web. I did it https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/model/docs… I tried to add language cose in settings_local.py and in mailman.cfg but nothing happens How can I do?

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] New Installation of MM3 is not archiving

by Onyeibo Oku

Greetings, I finally completed installation of Mailman 3 following the instructions here: https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#initial-configu… I got a lot of support from this mailing-list too and I am mighty grateful for that. My new MM3 instance does not seem to be archiving. List subscribers are currently sending and receiving mails on their subscribed lists. However, none of the correspondence is showing up at https://mailing-list-site.tld/archives/. That page shows a listing of the active mailing-lists with '0 participants' and '0 discussions'. Whereas, those lists contain mails. How do I troubleshoot this?

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Must every Moderator/Admin be member of a list to be able to use Postorius?

by mm3-omf＠sh.werbittewas.de

we're using debian/devuan with distribution-mailman3 and tried to add admin/mod for a list, but if logging in as this user, there's no item to manage the list at all. do we have to add this user as member of this list? (that wouldn't be nice, because the user doesn't want to get normal Mails from List, but only admin-Mails) regards omf

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] MM3 to MM3 migration

by David Newman

I’m looking to migrate several mailing lists from one server running MM3/Django/Hyperkitty to another. Same operating system and python environment and venvs for both. Although the canonical hostnames for the two servers will differ, I can use the same hostnames for lists once I’ve got everything set up. Is this really as simple as building the new server, creating the same lists on the new server, and rsync’ing the archives from the old server? If not, how to do the migration? I checked the archives and saw many threads on MM2 -> MM3, but did not see anything on MM3 migration. Thanks in advance. dn

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Monthly Password Reminders

by Odhiambo Washington

Does MM3 send these monthly subscription reminders the way MM2 used to do? I am looking for the setting, but can't find that in the list settings. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Monthly Password Reminders

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/2/23 06:29, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Does MM3 send these monthly subscription reminders the way MM2 used to do? > I am looking for the setting, but can't find that in the list settings. No, it does not. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Monthly Password Reminders

by Odhiambo Washington

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 8:21 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 2/2/23 06:29, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Does MM3 send these monthly subscription reminders the way MM2 used to > do? > > I am looking for the setting, but can't find that in the list settings. > > > No, it does not. The rationale behind the decision to toss away that feature? Security?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Verification links to localhost

by Lars Bjørndal

The verification link I get back when trying to add an account, referes to localhost, e.g. To confirm this is correct, go to https://localhost:8000/accounts/confirm-email/Mw:1... Where do I change that? Thanks in advance, Lars

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] settings sanity check

by Odhiambo Washington

Does mailman-web do sanity checks in settings.py? Suppose I have the following: Q_CLUSTER = { 'name': 'mailman3-web', 'workers': 8, 'retry': 360, 'timeout': 300, 'save_limit': 100, 'orm': 'default', } Q_CLUSTER = { 'retry': 320, 'timeout': 300, 'save_limit': 100, 'orm': 'default', } Which setting will it go with? And why doesn't it complain about a setting being made 2x? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Held messages page not rendering the message

by peter＠chubb.wattle.id.au

>>>>> "mike-mailman" == mike-mailman <mike-mailman(a)earth.li> writes: mike-mailman> Thanks Peter My javascript console does not have the mike-mailman> errors listed in that bug - instead I have: When you click on a held message, do you see javascript errors then, in the browser console? I had this problem before the current version, too, but it fixed itself after a browser refresh. Peter C

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Need help setting up mailman3 on ubuntu 20.04...

by Marisa Giancarla

I'm trying to get mailman3 up on ubuntu using the debian package. I did the "apt install mailman3-full" and it does seem to have installed as both the mailman3 & mailman3-web processes are running. I can use "mailman create" in the command-line and "mailman lists" displays the lists I created. What I am having issues with is I don't see any entries in/etc/aliases, and I don't know how to access the web interface (as either admin or user). Can someone point me to what I need to do to finish it? Thanks, Marisa

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Installing Mailman for the first time

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/24/23 19:28, Jim Berg, Jr. via Mailman-users wrote: > I am not so sure what I am doing. > > Is there someone who does this for a fee? There is a minimal list at <https://wiki.list.org/x/4489296> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] RemoteUserBackend for Mailman3?

by Markus Ludwig Grandpré

Dear MM§-users, is there a good documentation and example how I can learn to enable django.contrib.auth.backends.RemoteUserBackend for Mailman3? I've already found a detailed documentation (see [1]), but I do not manage to implement this AuthN mechanism for Mailman3. Can you help me? Btw. how can I disable and remove the Fedora button from Maliman3's login page? Best, Markus [1] <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/4.1/howto/auth-remote-user/> -- Markus Ludwig Grandpré Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung IT-Dienste Forschung und Lehre, Tel: ++49 7531 88 4342

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: How to list all nonmembers from a list?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/28/23 01:28, Jens Günther wrote: > Hey there, I wanted to list all nonmembers from a list, I just can't > find an easy way to do it. > > For listing members of a list it is quite clear: mailman members $mylist > > Is there a similar way for nonmembers!? mailman members --role nonmember $mylist See mailman members --help for documentation of all the options. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: 404 on fresh install (Debian11)

by comprepair_jimberg＠icloud.com

Can you setup Mailman3 for me? I have done apt install mailman3-full but I have no clue whaat I am doing. Jim

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: Delete Django profiles not signed up to a list

by Andrew Hodgson

Hi. Has anyone managed to get this script running using the Mailman-Web setup in a venv? It was working when Settings.py was in the /opt/mailman/mm directory but since moving to Mailman-Web has it in /etc/mailman3. I have been trying to import Mailman-Web to get the Django environment running but every time I do this I get a not configured exception raised. Thanks. Andrew.

2 years

[MM3-users] Hyperkitty shows "<" as <

by Andreas Schamanek

Hi fellow Hyperkitties, I migrated from Mailman 2 to 3 and imported my 1st list via `manage.py hyperkitty_import` to Hyperkitty 1.3.4 (the Debian package), but that might not even be relevant to my problem: All "<" and ">" in old and new messages are shown as "<" and ">" in message views _however_ they are shown correctly in overview abstracts e.g. at //server/mm3/hyperkitty/list/testlist@server/latest Is this a bug in Hyperkitty? Or is our server doing something funky? -- -- Andreas :-)

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: Link to account

by Lars Bjørndal

Thanks a lot. [Mark] [...] > If you were to replace `lists` with `mailman3` everywhere in the abpve, you > would then access HyperKitty via a URL like > > https://list.punktskriftutvalget.no/mailman3/archives/ > > and Postorius via > > https://list.punktskriftutvalget.no/mailman3/mailman3/ > > If that's not what you want, it's more complicated and some things might not > be possible. What exactly do you want for access to Postorius, HyperKitty, > user accounts, user profiles and the Django admin UI? I would like to have postorius at .../mailman3 and admin, accounts etc. under .../mailman3/admin .../mailman3/accounts etc. Thanks Lars

2 years

[MM3-users] Python is updated

by Lars Bjørndal

Hi, list! As the machine I'm running Mailman on now is upgraded from Fedora 36 to 37, the Python version is upgraded from 3.10 to 3.11. How do I update Mailman in the virutal environment? Thanks, Lars

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Python is updated

by Lars Bjørndal

After I've installed the venv and packages again, I get the following error when running the mailman command from within the venv: SystemError: initialization of _psycopg raised unreported exception How do I fix that? Lars

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Python is updated

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/27/23 1:03 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Your symlimks don't make sense to me. > And BTW why do you need symlimks in the first place? It's the way virtualenvs work. They don't install the Python interpreter in the venv. They just symlink to the appropriate Python interpreter in the system. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Python is updated

by Lars Bjørndal

[Mark] > This appears to be an issue with psycopg2 itself. > > What happens if you activate your venv and do > > python -c 'import psycopg2' Traceback (most recent call last): File "<string>", line 1, in <module> File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.11/site-packages/psycopg2/__init__.py", line 51, in <module> from psycopg2._psycopg import ( # noqa SystemError: initialization of _psycopg raised unreported exception Lars

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: spf/dkim/dmarc

by Jeremy Stanley

On 2023-05-17 09:56:06 -0400 (-0400), Stephen Daniel wrote: > Duh. I use Postfix running on the same machine as mm3 as my MTA. [...] I don't use Postfix, but I asked a Web search engine (DuckDuckGo) for "configure dkim signing in postfix" and got many informative hits for various versions, platforms and distributions. Perhaps if you do that you'll get similar results and can find instructions which most closely match your deployment specifics. Best of luck! -- Jeremy Stanley

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Apache shows No Lists

by ceo＠sartrack.nz

Postorius is running. I just removed all mailing lists, and created new empty ones. These now show in the Apache2 website, via the link to Postorius I assume. Then I imported members from the old mailing list "Templist" into the new one. Now the "templist" is no longer visible on the website! It is here: https://sartrack.nz/mailman3/ Note that the existing list "Templist" is missing. Now I need to login as 'superuser' or whatever it is called, so I can manage all the lists. Where do I set up my login and password for access via the web browser?

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] mass remove pending confirmation

by Jens Günther

Running Mailman 3.3.8 with docker. ----- Since we migrate some lists from mailman2 to 3, there are a lot of new users/subscribers and an admin made the mistake to not checkbox the 3. option that the users don't need to verify their address. Now we have a long list of pending confirmations in different lists. Is there an easy way in the shell to mass remove these pending mailaddresses so that we don't have to do that one by one? That would be awsome. Regards, Jens.

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Please contact me...

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Mailman-users writes: > Sorry to bother others... Hey, y'all, don't hesitate to do this if it's the best way to find somebody. But you can also search it out yourself if you've kept any posts from them, because Mailman's own lists put it in "reply-to". Either a "reply all" (and clean up any undesired CCs) or check the headers in the "raw mail" (also called "original mail") to see it. HTH somebody in a hurry someday. Steve

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Change config to create a new list with all archives off

by Tibor Molnar

Can archiving be changed anywhere in mailman3 configs, so then all new lists created do not archive by default?

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Change config to create a new list with all archives off

by Tibor Molnar

Well, there are no archives created after I change them settings but it is not what I'm looking for. If I do this all the lists will stop archiving. I was hoping that there was something already implemented or there is a config that I can change that allows newly created lists to be configured not to archive messages by default, or publicly archive by default....

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Is there a simple way to remove the footer without having to add a customized template?

by Mark London

I simply want to have no footer for a mailing list. Can I do that without having to create a customized template? Thanks.

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Is there a simple way to remove the footer without having to add a customized template?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/14/23 11:30, Mark London wrote: > I simply want to have no footer for a mailing list. Can I do that > without having to create a customized template? Thanks. No. You have to create an empty template. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: username

by bryan.kartzman＠yu.edu

Nevermind. I see that the postorius username is stored in the postorius database which, in my case (Debian 11), is a sqlite3 database in /var/lib/mailman3/web/mailman3web.db. I would like to create/pre-populate all the postorius usernames for our list owners/list moderators using their university net username. Is there a way to do that?

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Postorius claims 2 messages held when there are none - out of sync

by Ken Alker

When I view a list via Postorius the "Held Messages" menu item has an inverse-red-"2" next to it, as if there are two held messages. There are, in fact, no messages in "/opt/mailman/mm/var/queue/*" (assuming the held messages should be in "pipeline" subdirectory). When I click on "Held Messages" I get "Something went wrong" followed by "HTTP Error 500: {"title": "500 Internal Server Error"}". How do I fix this?

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problems after upgrading from bullseye to bookworm

by Ken Alker

I'm brand new to this, so take this with a grain of sale, but, I had a similar problem a few days ago, however, mine was "flufl.i18n>=3.2". Perhaps the same thing is happening with flufl.lock (but that didn't bite me). I solved my problem by following this: <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1085> and, ultimately modifying "$VENV_ROOT/lib/$PYVERSION/site-packages/mailman-3.3.8.egg-info/requires.txt" per that thread (see <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1085#note_1442207929> by Thomas Ward section called "The WORKAROUND"). Maybe you need to do the same thing, but for flufl.lock.

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Configure administrative users via command line?

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/18/23 15:18, kjohnson(a)eclypse.org wrote: > > mailman shell gave me: ``` >>>> from django.contrib.auth.models import User >>>> User.objects.filter(is_superuser=True) > <QuerySet [<User: admin>, <User: xxxx>]> ``` For Django, it's better to use the django admin `shell` as it does Django's initiaization which may be required depending on what you do. Also Django has a web admin UI, normally at a URL like https://example.com/admin/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] List mails blocked from GMX - web.de > Spamfolder

by itservice＠knut-krueger.de

How can I configure Mailman3 so that Mails from the list will not be blocked by gmx.net I tried to send with the same user (mailman.cf) at my mail server, which will not be blocked by gmx. unfortunately, I get no bounce back message. They do just not appear in the mail folder of gmx. At web.de they go to the SPAM folder.

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] applying patch 1130

by David Newman

Please forgive a dumb question from a non-programmer: How to apply the !1130.diff patch to a venv installation? https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/1130 I am looking to upgrade Debian 11 to 12. The latter uses python3.11, which no longer has a dependency on importlib_resources. As a result, MM3 won't start unless all references to importlib_resources instead call importlib.resources, now part of stdlib. I tried patching all importlib.resource references by hand, and MM3 starts – but that can't be the "right" way to do this. Also, the diff references a src directory that doesn't exist under /opt/mailman. Thanks in advance for patching clues. dn

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: importlib_resources issue?

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/14/23 5:18 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > ...and noted Mark's patch at the bottom. Of course that meant > downloading the tarball, when I had wanted to do a nice clean install > via pip. So, I downloaded the 3.3.8 tarball, extracted it, edited that > line in setup.py, tarred it back up again, and did "pip install > <tarball>" after installing the other dependencies (wheel and pymysql). You could have just done ``` pip install importlib_resources>=1.1.0,<6.0 ``` in your virtualenv. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Only allow users to subscribe from certain domains

by bob B

Does Mailman have anyway to just allow users to subscribe themselves to a list from certain domains... ie any user from test.com or test2.com I do not believe this exists, but have a list manger who is asking. I feel they will have to either, approve all requests, or have a web frontend built that could filter that out and then send the subscribe commands in the backend. Thanks

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can't start mailman after reboot.

by mrl＠psfc.mit.edu

Hi - I couldn't find the locks. So I rebooted the computer and it told me to force start it using: mailman -C /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg start --force I recall someone asking using bugzilla (?) a few months ago, if this could be in the startup file. What do you think about that?

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postfix-Fehler mit mailman-web

by Abhilash Raj

On 8/28/23 18:15, Jens Günther wrote: > Thank you Abhilash, > > probably it's hard to tell, but somehow the container started with a > different IP now. Do you have any clew, how this can happen? The network > part is as follows: > > networks: > mailman: > ipv4_address: 172.22.0.4 > > -> but it has 192.168.176.6 Can you share the entire compose file? I am not sure without looking at the entire file why the IP wasn't assigned correctly. Abhilash -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius no connection to REST API

by markus.laspeyres＠nerdline.de

PS: sorry but indeed start -f was working: sudo -u mailman /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman status GNU Mailman is running (master pid: 1567982) But sudo systemctl restart mailman3 Job for mailman3.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status mailman3.service" and "journalctl -xeu mailman3.service" for details. But Mailman is running. I am confused. What do I miss? Thanks and best

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius no connection to REST API

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/4/23 11:43, markus.laspeyres--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > But sudo systemctl restart mailman3 > Job for mailman3.service failed because the control process exited with error code. > See "systemctl status mailman3.service" and "journalctl -xeu mailman3.service" for details. And what do those say? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Issues with @gmail.com addresses

by Peter Münster

On Thu, Sep 07 2023, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > and then have a "reproduce defects" flag for the reassemble functions. Yes, that sounds good. Are you ready to do that? And if yes, what recompense would you like to receive please? -- Peter

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman messages are getting a TAG in some email clients.....how????

by bob B

Thanks, so with that info I was able to dig around and confirm it is the "Subject prefix" that is being displayed. Not sure why some clients display it and others do not, but that will be for the end user to talk to their email team about cause it is not a mailman issue.

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: I'm seeing a lot of database locked errors

by bryan.kartzman＠yu.edu

Actually, they do exist: select count(*) FROM hyperkitty_email WHERE id in (1365, 1366); count ------- 2 Where does that put us?

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: I'm seeing a lot of database locked errors

by bryan.kartzman＠yu.edu

And they do have the same thread_id as well: select a.id, b.starting_email_id, a.message_id_hash, b.thread_id from hyperkitty_email a,hyperkitty_thread b where a.message_id_hash = b.thread_id and a.id = b.starting_email_id and a.id in (1365,1366) ; id | starting_email_id | message_id_hash | thread_id ------+-------------------+----------------------------------+---------------------------------- 1365 | 1365 | UB4WSRNRTPBH7XB6RF3W42U2MUDK77S7 | UB4WSRNRTPBH7XB6RF3W42U2MUDK77S7 1366 | 1366 | UB4WSRNRTPBH7XB6RF3W42U2MUDK77S7 | UB4WSRNRTPBH7XB6RF3W42U2MUDK77S7 (2 rows)

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Strange password problem

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Roland Miyamoto via Mailman-users writes: > I take Mailman3 "as is" Please don't do that ;-) (except for the NO WARRANTY part :-). We recognize that Mailman 3 is imperfect. Without user feedback, though, we have a hard time deciding what to prioritize. Let us know what you want! > and try to customise things by myself with my own (limited) > resources. If you have any good ideas that may be useful to others, feel free to post them here!

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Templates via Webinterface are i) not set, and ii) set templates (files) are not shown in the Webinterface

by Wikinaut

I use mailman3 since a while, for some of my lists I have been using - list:member:digest:footer.txt - list:member:regular:footer.txt When I go to "Vorlagen" (LC: DE) (templates) in the web interface, I do _not_ see these two templates! When I got o my newest mailing list and when I setup templates via the Webinterfaces, these are shown there, but are neither working nor seen as files. What's wrong here? Is that a problem of the localisation language (DE)? Bug, feature or misunderstanding of myself?

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman issues after re-boot

by Stephen J. Turnbull

paulrubin37(a)gmail.com writes: > Note there were zero issues this time with venv or pip. > > python3 -m venv venv > vi .bashrc > exit You need a "source venv/bin/activate" before working in the venv, including with pip. Did you not do that, or just omit writing it in the email? > pip install wheel mailman psycopg2-binary\<2.9

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Setting up on ubuntu server 22.04

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Odhiambo Washington writes: > And I think the 'slightly more complex way' is a better choice as > it lets one not get stuck with old software versions :) It may also cause other dependency problems, though. Unless you know what you're doing enough to be willing to try to diagnose and handle them yourself, we'd generally prefer you stick to the currently released Mailman suite. I guess Mark's recommendation signals that he believes that 3.3.9b1 is pretty much ready for prime time, so in this particular case it's a reasonable option. I wouldn't say it's "better" though. Steve

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman issues after re-boot

by paulrubin37＠gmail.com

OK, I am up and running. It took me a couple tries I kept getting errors until I fully restarted mailmanweb and the browser As for the user table you are correct, I was getting confused between : select * from user: and select * from public.user; THANK YOU for all the help Is there something I can do for you? A Donation?

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman issues after re-boot

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/6/23 05:55, paulrubin37(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Is there something I can do for you? A Donation? Donations to the GNU Mailman project are always appreciated. See https://wiki.list.org/x/4816967 for details. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Alias for a list name

by Lars Bjørndal

I've migrated a list from mm 21 to mm 3 sucessfully. The mm 21 runs on domains managed by Postfix as virtual alias domains. That way it was possible to alias a shorter name for a list to the list name. To run mm 3 through Postfix, I use local_recipient_maps and transport_maps. What I want to achieve, is alias medlem(a)list.saf-org.no to saf-medlem(a)list.saf-org.no I tried to put medlem(a)list.saf-org.no: saf-medlem(a)list.saf-org.no and get the following error when running newaliases: postalias: warning: /etc/aliases, line 231: name must be local Is it possible to do this aliasing in a simple way? Thanks, Lars

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Post installation issues (recipients refused) with Exim4 in a virtual host environment

by Odhiambo Washington

> his message sent to kyriakos.terzopoulos(a)gmail.com >>> >> [snip] What do you have in the Exim's mainlog? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Internal Server Error: /mailman/accounts/fedora/login/

by alex＠presland.net

I've got exactly the same set-up as Kilian and changed the "Server error" page (with associated debug email) to a "Page not found" page. Thank you for this Matt. One thing that I noted was that the change didn't take immediately. In hindsight I think that I needed to restart the "uwsgi" service, but I was doing some server updates anyway so rebooted the whole server.

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: 120 gmail users removed from lists !

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Yvan ? writes: > Any "handmaid" solution should be great. That *was* the handmade solution. The commit IDs are in my message. You can get the corresponding patches from GitLab. There's a reason why I wrote that I don't recommend this -- you're asking for a lot of work. If you can't do it yourself, and you're in a hurry, there is a list of consultants at https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20consulting%20services. Steve

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Gmail bounces as a result to high send rate

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/24/23 9:43 AM, Mohsen Masoudfar wrote:> > I followed their recommendation, but I am not sure how to reduce the rate on Postfix side. Can I do it per list? or once per server? See https://policyd.sourceforge.net/readme.html for a possible Postfix solution. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] disabled users

by Servizio Informatico U.I.C.I. Sezione territoriale di Brescia

Hello, Wher I find the disabled user of a mailing list and wher I can reactivate them? I do not find this nor in web interface neither in command line utility. Thank you best regards -- Roberto Burceni Servizio informatico sezionale Tel. 0302209417 (lunedì e giovedì mattina dalle 9:00 alle 13:00, martedì emercoledì pomeriggio dalle 14:00 alle 18:00 E-mail: servizioinformatico(a)uicibrescia.it Sito web: https://www.uicibrescia.it

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Immediate notification to the administrator

by Abhilash Raj

On 11/2/23 15:04, pau.baiges(a)csuc.cat wrote: > I have checked that the following cron could be created to make the checks. > > 0 8 * * * /path/to/mailman notify > > But the mailman notify command itself shows the following error: > > Usage: mailman [OPTIONS] COMMAND [ARGS]... > Try "mailman -h" for help. > > Error: No such command "notify". Which version of mailman do you have? "mailman notify" command was added in v3.3.0 ~4 years ago. -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'mailman_web'

by gordon＠dickens.com

Hi Odhiambo, My mailman3 logs are empty (/var/log/mailman3/mailman.log). Nothing has been written to the log files since the OS upgrade. I do see the following in /var/log/syslog for each time that I restart the service with "systemctl start mailman3": >2023-11-06T14:00:19.549985-05:00 slc systemd[1]: Starting mailman3.service - LSB: Mailman3 server... But I cannot find any log entries that might indicate why the service is exiting. Can you be more specific about how to create a new venv and move the "var" directory, etc. Thanks, Gordon

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web compress - Invalid template socialaccount/login_cancelled.html

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Michael.Sanderson(a)ubc.ca writes: > It is perhaps non-fatal, but we do have a different number of > templates processed. Thank you for checking that. I was going to ask, on the theory that if the exception kills the process on template #1, zero templates get processed. This may not be a problem, at least one of the preparatory steps simply does in advance what would be done lazily at request time. But that needs to be checked. Steve

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Mailserver Log entries following through mailman?

by Andreas Barth

Hi, is there some way to find an ID to follow an email through mailman? In the exim logfile there is only something like C="250 Ok" (whereas in mails sent to another exim there is something like C="250 OK id=…"). (What I sometimes need to do is to follow an mail whether it is sent through mailman and to where.) Or should I raise an issue as whishlist request? Regards, Andi

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] The doubled entries issue

by Lars Bjørndal

I've got the problem Multiple rows were found when one or none was required. I found the issue and a script here: https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/657 I did su - mailman3 and ran: python scriptname.py and got: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailman3/fix-doubled-entries.py", line 21, in <module> listmgr = get_list_manager() ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman3/fix-doubled-entries.py", line 6, in get_list_manager return getUtility(IListManager) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.11/site-packages/zope/component/_api.py ", line 180, in getUtility raise ComponentLookupError(interface, name) zope.interface.interfaces.ComponentLookupError: (<InterfaceClass mailman.interfa ces.listmanager.IListManager>, '') (venv) 1[mailman3@dalen ~]$ Do I miss something? How can I fix the problem? Thanks, Lars

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] How to Personalise Email Content with Usernames in Mailman 3

by Zaheer Abbas

Hello, I am currently working with Mailman 3 and looking to enhance the personalization of the emails sent through our mailing list. Specifically, I wish to include the recipient's username in the email content, similar to a personalized greeting (e.g., "Dear [username]"). My questions are: 1. Does Mailman 3 support the inclusion of personalized data (like usernames)? 2. If yes, how can I do that? Is there any placeholder for that? Any guidance or suggestions on how to achieve this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and assistance.

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: All messages to a new list/domain shunted from "in" queue with no logged exceptions

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/26/23 11:41, Jered Floyd wrote: > > This was entirely my fault. *facepalm* > > I replace styles/base.py when I do my container builds, so that I can override list defaults (personalization, subscription_policy, and dmarc_mitigate_action). I failed to notice the added dmarc_attributes attribute added to apply() Thanks for letting us know. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Importing archive from mm21

by Lars Bjørndal

I imported an archive from a list created in September 2013 with the following command: mailman-web hyperkitty_import -l annonsering(a)hodr.no --since 2013-09-01 <mbox file> No errors reported. I then did mailman-web update_index_one_list annonsering(a)hodr.no No, when I go to https://hodr.no/archives/list/annonsering@hodr.no/, I cannot choose mails earlier than January 2023. What's the problem, do you think? Lars

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: SSL error while connecting to hyperkitty

by Mark Labeste

Do you have new link for this http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/prodsetup.html#setting-up-a-wsgi-server currently not accessible.

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: SSL error while connecting to hyperkitty

by Odhiambo Washington

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 4:56 AM Mark Labeste <marqueejen13(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Do you have new link for this > http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/prodsetup.html#setting-up-a-wsgi-server > currently not accessible. > https://docs.list.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setting-up-a-wsgi-s… -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3-web language preference and translation settings

by Nils

Thank you very much for your help, Mark. On 12/7/23 01:44, Mark Sapiro wrote: > The only thing I can think of is you may need to cd to the directory > containing django/ django_mailman3/ postorius/ and /hyperkitty before > doing the above. This may be something like > /usr/lib/python3.x/site-packages. > Yes, that did it! Previous command didn't work because of file permissions. So instead of sudoing the command as www-data, I just did "django-admin compilemessages" as root after changing to directory "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages". Kind regards Nils

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migrating mailman3 to latest ubuntu lts

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/14/23 10:19, Jered Floyd wrote: > > Did you run the upgrade steps? > > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/upgrade-guide.html > > For schema upgrades you will at least need to do "mailman-web migrate", but please read the entire section as 3.1.1 to 3.3.9 is a big step. These are all important and necessary steps, but "mailman-web migrate" updates schemas for the mailman-web database. It does not update the alembic migrations for the mailman database. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migrating mailman3 to latest ubuntu lts

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Helio Loureiro writes: > And now it is starting without errors. I guess that was it. Thank you for the success report! We love to hear it. Please do continue to watch for strange behavior and feel free to report here if you have futher problems. Steve

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: delete unverified accounts

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/20/23 8:15 AM, noemi wrote: > While waiting for a captcha system[0] for the main distribution, I'm > looking for a rapid/easy way to delete this accounts; since they are not > 'verified', I was wondering if I can locate this information in the > mailman3 database or if there is some easier way to delete all > unverified accounts. Do some of you any help or indications? See https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/clean_users.py -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Loops back to myself

by simonjwiles＠gmail.com

Were you ever able to solve this problem? I'm having exactly the same issue with GNU Mailman 3.3.9 (Tom Sawyer), and I can't work out what I should be doing. Thanks!

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: search this list searches more then just this list

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Marco van Tol writes: > Turns out I was just one `./manage.py rebuild_index` away, so all > good :-) Wonderful news! Thanks for following up, we do love to hear success stories. Steve

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hiding an ML from a site

by Jeremy Stanley

On 2024-02-08 10:43:37 +0300 (+0300), Odhiambo Washington wrote: [...] > Looking at Postorius, they do have different mail hosts. [...] Are you using the magic SITE_ID=0 in your settings file? For our deployments, that was necessary to get it to auto-detect which filter to apply based on the domain name used by the browser. -- Jeremy Stanley

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hiding an ML from a site

by Mark Sapiro

On February 7, 2024 11:43:37 PM PST, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Looking at Postorius, they do have different mail hosts. See the screenshot >at: https://imgur.com/a/GsiiEjP That looks as it should. I don't know why FILTER_VHOSTS isn't working. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Retrieve users from a list

by Jörg Schulz

this would mean you should include something like the following in your backup script when you use docker for your convenience (else rely on database backups): for list in $(docker compose exec --user mailman mailman-core mailman lists -q) ; do docker compose exec --user mailman mailman-core mailman members $list > $list.members ; done

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] mm3 installation question

by advorkin＠cs.princeton.edu

Hello, everyone. I just completed the initial installation by following the instructions: https://docs.list.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#virtualenv-install I went with the apache/uswgi configuration. The site is up and running, but if I click Postorius, it gets redirected to https://mysite.com/postorius/lists and I get not found error message. The same goes for Lists and Archives. What did I do wrong? I've found some discussions online, but they seem to be related to a different installation, thus my confusion. Thank you!

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] mailman3 3.2.2 python3.8 problem on focal

by Thomas Stein

Hello list! I saw a few posts regarding the "Uncaught runner exception: module 'time' has no attribute 'clock'" problem but no solution to that. It seems this issue sneaked in at some point. I was getting aware of it when suddenly notifications to non-member posts did not work anymore. Everything else seems still to work. So, what is the prefered solution here? Is it possible to "repair" focal? There is python2.7, python3.6 and python3.8 installed currently. Or do I need to switch to a supported distribution like debian something? Wait for ubuntu 24.04? Any hints are really appreciated. cheers! t.

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: ValueError: The ADMINS setting must be a list of 2-tuples.

by Stephen J. Turnbull

David Partain via Mailman-users writes: > And do I feel silly. Please don't. You made a good report with all the information needed to point out a fix, even if it was obvious *in hindsight*. Of course we appreciate the effort of those who figure it out for themselves and save us a bug report, but a good report and a quick fix for it has a lot of educational value, too. Steve

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: need help to migrate from Mailman2 to Mailman3 (french if possible)

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/22/24 10:00, Pascal Léval via Mailman-users wrote: > what you have written below worked fine, thanks ! > > but now, I still have the error sending an email : > Erreur : 550 5.1.1 <formule(a)listes.leval.info>: Recipient address > rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table > I think it's a problem with Postfix, what do you think ? Yes it is a problem with your postfix configuration. What is the output from `postconf -n` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Sibling lists in Mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/27/24 08:05, Markus Grandpre wrote: > > after I migrated a list from Mailman21 to Mailman3 I missed the > Mailman21 setting "regular_include_lists" (or something similar) in > Mailman3. How are sibling lists treated in Mailman3? The sibling list features do not exist in Mailman 3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Sibling lists in Mailman3

by Markus Grandpré

Thank you. Am 27.03.24 um 17:26 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 3/27/24 08:05, Markus Grandpre wrote: >> >> after I migrated a list from Mailman21 to Mailman3 I missed the >> Mailman21 setting "regular_include_lists" (or something similar) in >> Mailman3. How are sibling lists treated in Mailman3? > > The sibling list features do not exist in Mailman 3. > -- Markus Ludwig Grandpré Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung IT-Dienste Forschung und Lehre, B803, Tel: ++49 7531 88 4342

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Welcome message template errors

by Mark

>> The URI in the template table now has this. >> >> http://12.34.56.78/mailman3/api/templates/list/MYTESTLIST.MYDOMAIN.COM/list… > > > And if you go there in a browser, what do you get? That returns a "Page not found". Likewise with curl.

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Deleting A List

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/4/24 01:31, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > So, seeing as deleting a list retains its archives, if I want to delete a > list together with its archives, do I first delete the archives, then > follow with the list? It is better to delete the list first from Mailman core and then from HyperKitty. The order doesn't matter except if you delete from HyperKitty first and the hourly new_lists_from_mailman job runs before you delete the list from Mailman, HyperKitty will create a new, empty archive for the list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Don't start nntp runner by default - was: Mailman3 doesn't send Mails to users (Debian12 with Plesk)

by Jeremy Stanley

On 2024-05-25 11:33:14 +0300 (+0300), Odhiambo Washington wrote: [...] > I last heard of usenet in the late 90's. Do they still exist, even? [...] Yes, and it's surprisingly usable again now that most spammers have finally forgotten it exists! -- Jeremy Stanley

10 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 on Rocky 9 is not starting after an OS update and reboot

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/12/24 6:56 AM, dgoldsmith--- via Mailman-users wrote: > We are running mailman 3.x in a venv setup using Postgresql. The mailman service hangs during startup and eventually fails with a timeout: Can you start Mailman core manually with `mailman start`? What happens when you try to do that? If that fails, it may be as Odhiambo suggests that the Python version used by your venv no longer exists on your system. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Problem with digests not being sent daily

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/22/24 19:54, Mark wrote: > > Is it possible to temporarily disable the digest runner so that I can > see if a post is actually creating the digest.mmdf file (before the > runner removes it)? Find its PID and sigterm (kill -term) it. It is possible to restart it with the `runner` command, but it is safer to just do `mailman stop` followed by `mailman start` (`mailman restart` will not restart a sigtermed runner). -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months

[MM3-users] Re: security app causing django Internal Server Error: /archives/search emails

by sun zi

Thanks, I am familiar with the links, but not too experienced with django logging filters. I will do some experimenting though.

9 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Subject Munging

by Sam Darwin

Hi, We have a user who is proposing that reply messages from a mailing list should be in the following format: Re: [MM3-users] Ubuntu 24.04 upgrade notes and not [MM3-users] Re: Ubuntu 24.04 upgrade notes Their reason... is that mailman2, and other lists, used to do it that way. I myself am agnostic about the difference, and probably prefer to keep things the way mailman3 recommends. The questions are: 1. What could be explained to the user to convince them the new method is preferable. 2. Can this be customized with a Setting? (Not that we will end up modifying it. Just curious). Thanks.

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Subject Munging

by Thomas Hochstein

Sam Darwin wrote: > We have a user who is proposing that reply messages from a mailing list > should be in the following format: > > Re: [MM3-users] Ubuntu 24.04 upgrade notes That seems wrong. It's not a reply to a message from "[MM3-users]", it's a reply sent to "[MM3-users]". > [MM3-users] Re: Ubuntu 24.04 upgrade notes That looks right. It's a message from "[MM3-users]", and that message is a reply to "Ubuntu 24.04 upgrade notes". > Their reason... is that mailman2, and other lists, used to do it that > way. And now Mailman 3 does it better. -thh

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty stuck files

by zoltan＠circle-interactive.co.uk

Thank you Mark! I think I tracked down the related django error for that message. mailmanweb.log says MySQLdb.OperationalError: (1366, "Incorrect string value: '\\xF0\\x9F\\x98\\x8A. ...' for column `mailmanweb`.`hyperkitty_email`.`content` at row 1") but collation is utf8mb4_general_ci on the table. Do I need to maybe specify it in settings file?

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty stuck files

by zoltan＠circle-interactive.co.uk

Thank you again for the OPTIONS I do not have errors in log any more and I had 273 stuck mails which are gone now. Can this maybe be added to the installation guide? https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html Thanks, Zoltan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Removing Moderators

by steve.bachinsky＠tena-sda.org

Hi. I'm able to remove a list moderator through the REST interface: >>> dump_json('BASE_URL/3.1/lists/LIST_NAME/roster/moderator') ... find the correct member_id from the output >>> dump_json('BASE_URL/3.1/members/MEMBER_ID', method='DELETE') If I know the moderator's email address, is there a way to do this in a python function? Thanks, Steve

9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Removing Moderators

by steve.bachinsky＠tena-sda.org

Mark, Thanks for your help, appreciate it! I should have asked previously, but if adding a moderator, how do I turn an email address into a "member" that can be subscribed as a moderator? Thanks again, Steve

9 months

[MM3-users] Re: using SSH/TLS with external MTA

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/27/24 15:16, Roland Giesler via Mailman-users wrote: > > The server runs power-mailinabox, which uses Postfix indeed. All my > mail, and quite a few others' mail is sent from the using SMTP-Auth on > port 465. Actually, this message is sent via that server too. So it's > clear to me that MM3 is not authenticating for some reason. What do you see in Mailman's smtp.log and in the mail.log on the mail server? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: User cannot reset password

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/11/24 10:56, Greg Newby wrote: > I imported MM2.1 lists to Mailman3 (using import21 - details are in my > previous messages to mailman-users), and have had a couple of reports of > people for whom the password reset function via "Forgot password" on the > list login screen doesn't work as expected. Django (web) accounts (Postorius and HyperKitty) are separate from Mailman core. Users inported from MM 2.1 do not have web accounts. They have to sign up, not request a password reset. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Clearing webserver cache - Nginx

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/16/24 7:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > Right now I am using apache2, but I am seeing something odd: > https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/archives/ is empty. Is this normal? No, it should be similar to https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/ > So I am left wondering why nginx is prefixing "usr/share/nginx/html" to > /static. Do you have ``` location /static/ { alias /opt/mailman/web/static/; } ``` in your nginx config? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Archive not updated

by mailman3＠escapade.ch

Hi All, Env: Debian bookworm debian pkg mailman 3.3.8-2~deb12u2 Status I moved from MM2 to MM3 Import of the archives worked, no issue problem: current emails sent to the list are not being archived. What have I done: - based on the list here I've checked different settings in the cfg files - looked for errors in the log What else can I do to solve this problem ? Many thanks in advance for your help. Manny

7 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Trying to understand the mailman.cfg from the virtualenv installation guide

by unite42＠disroot.org

Hello, I'm trying to install Mailman3 following the Virtualenv Installation guide. I would like to understand why the configurations in the displayed mailman.cfg are recommended. Especially the following two: [archiver.prototype] enable: yes "The prototype archiver stores messages individually in var/archives/prototype/LIST_NAME/." https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… Do I need this, when using hyperkitty? Is this a fail-safe recommendation? [mta] verp_confirmations: yes verp_personalized_deliveries: yes verp_delivery_interval: 1 What is the background of these recommendations? Thank you for your help! Greetings unite42

7 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: How to tell which lists on my server are being used?

by bryan.kartzman＠yu.edu

Thank you. That is just what I needed. Do you know if there is a way using the database to see how many posts a list has received (for all time or even for a specific time interval)?

7 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: How to remove Held Unsubscriptions

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/9/24 12:14, lowell(a)fas.harvard.edu wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > I'm having the same issue. We're Postorius Version 1.3.4.1. Which is three and a half years old. > I have no idea of how to use a shell or REST API. I update things via the web. If you can't upgrade to Postorius >= 1.3.5, see https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… which describes the `mailman shell` interaction required to do this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Configure new list via REST API - trying to add moderators

by Andy Matthews

One quick follow up. I'm making a subscribe request for a moderator. I'm passing in list_id, subscriber, and role (moderator). The request is returning a 201 response, but when I shell into the mailman server and inspect the list directly it shows there are no moderators. I've confirmed the list id, and I can see a list of regular members, but when I use the command line, the only version of the query which shows members is the default: `mailman members <list name>`. I assume I'm doing something wrong, but I'm not seeing it.

7 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Disabled by bounce

by Dan Caballero

Mark, Do you have any tips for scripting the setting changes via mailman shell -l somelist(a)caltech.edu or a python script to run. eg. mailman shell -r dmarcsettings.py? We have a number of lists that email Gmail addresses either directly or via aliases and virtual email domains using Google Workspace. Thanks as always. -- Dan Caballero Caltech

7 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Configure new list via REST API - trying to add moderators

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/12/24 06:08, Andy Matthews wrote: > Unfortunately no. What is different between what I show at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… and what you are doing? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Default values for lists in Mailman 3

by Markus Grandpré

Dear list, I would like to activate the invitation setting for all lists as default. In Mailman 2.1 I have done this in the file </etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py>: DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_OR_INVITE = Yes How can I do this in Mailman 3? Can I also transfer other default values like: ... DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en' DEFAULT_SEND_REMINDERS = 1 DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_OR_INVITE = Yes DEFAULT_PRIVATE_ROSTER = 2 DEFAULT_ARCHIVE = Off DEFAULT_ARCHIVE_PRIVATE = 1 ... from the very same configuration file to Mailman 3? Is there a documentation of the default values for lists in Mailman 3? Best regards, Markus Grandpré -- Markus Ludwig Grandpré Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung IT-Dienste Forschung und Lehre, B803, Tel: ++49 7531 88 4342

7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migrating from old V2 server to new V3 server. Questions.

by jkoral＠luc.edu

Mark, thank you for the quick reply. We will most likely need to migrate the lists over a period of time. So the DNS cannot be changed at the moment. Both servers have different FQDNs. Any suggestions on what we can do?

6 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Migrating from old V2 server to new V3 server. Questions.

by jkoral＠luc.edu

That makes sense. Are there instructions on how to do this? Then once we are done migrating to the new server, then we can just change the DNS, correct?

6 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: makemigrations --merge error after Debian upgrade

by Chupin Maxime

Mark Sapiro wrote: > Did you run this as the Mailman user (list in the Debian packages)? Thank you, I tried, but the system asked me a Password for this user... I do not understand. ``` sudo -u list mailman-web makemigrations --merge Password: ```

6 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: makemigrations --merge error after Debian upgrade

by Chupin Maxime

Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > The user executing sudo is yourself so enter your own password. > It's not the password for user "list" that is wanted. It's your own login > password. No, because I’m root and I can do : ``` root@machine: sudo -u list bash ``` and then ``` list@machine: mailman-web makemigrations --merge Password: ```

6 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: makemigrations --merge error after Debian upgrade

by Chupin Maxime

Another error message from the cron executions: ``` data-www@machine: /usr/share/mailman3-web/manage.py runjobs minutely /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django_q/conf.py:139: UserWarning: Retry and timeout are misconfigured. Set retry larger than timeout, failure to do so will cause the tasks to be retriggered before completion. See https://django-q.readthedocs.io/en/latest/configure.html#retry for details. warn( ```

6 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: makemigrations --merge error after Debian upgrade

by Chupin Maxime

Thank you. So, using `mailman-web makemigrations --merge` as `root` is the right way to do it (as it call user `www-data`). Unfortunately, I get the error wrote in my first message: ``` PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django_q/migrations/0015_merge_0010_auto_20220618_2315_0014_schedule_cluster.py' ```

6 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Should I try to install mailman3 on Kubuntu 20.04?

by Bill Oliver

I have been a happy camper running mailman3 on a vps I rent from a vendor, running CentOS 7. CentOS 7 is past end of life, so I moving over to a new machine running Kubuntu 20.04 LTS. I have been searching the intertubes and have seen a bunch of people having headaches trying it. So... Is Ubuntu 20.04 cool with mailman3? Should I go ahead and give it a shot or use a different distro? Should I do the apt install, the virtualenv install, or try the docker install? thanks billo

6 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: anomalous behavior

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/5/24 11:01, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Is there anything relevant in mailman.log? Are there messages in > Mailman's shunt queue?. The fact that the message is archived means the > issue is either in mailman/handlers/to_outgoing.py or > mailman/runners/outgoing.py Do you have any custom list:member:regular:header or list:member:regular:footer template for this list. If so, there may be an issue with the template or with access to it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Upgrade docker-mailman to v0.5.2

by Christopher

Hi Abhilash, I checkout the v0.5.2 for testing my upgrade from 0.4.6 and noticed, that the docker-image-version is still set to 0.4 in docker-compose.yaml. Is there any reason for it or should it be set to 0.5? I´m still using my good old mariadb. I did not find any upgrade-informations about breaking-changes. Do you have any experience with migrating from 0.4.6 to 0.5.2 on mariadb? Best regards Chrclaus

6 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Search function returning results from another list

by Marco van Tol

Hi there, We have several lists on our list server here, and noticed that if we do this: - go to the archive of public list x - type in "minutes" in the search bar If will: - show a screen: list-x search results for query "minutes" - have 3 results in there for another private list - show a message that you need to login to view the message if you click on one Our current mailman core version is: 3.3.9 Our current hyperkitty version is: 1.3.10 Our index engine is: xapian_backend.XapianEngine Does this make sense? Thanks! Marco van Tol RIPE NCC

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] max_day_to_hold - when in force?

by Wikinaut

There are quite few discussions (back to 2020) dealing with the variable max_day_to_hold and the (non-) handling of the set value, I found for example Marc's comment https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… : I'm really not sure what you are looking to do, but I can tell you that while the max_days_to_hold list attribute exists and can be set, the actual discarding of held messages older than max_days_to_hold is not implemented. Thus the setting currently does nothing. My question: Are there any plans to bring this into action, so that held messages are really discarded after that number of days? (like it was in mailman2)?

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: New installation, new issue: mailman3 migrate -- no module CommonMark

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/24 12:41, Bill Oliver wrote: > On Sun, 2024-10-27 at 10:01 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> In any case, in your venv, do >> ``` >> pip install --update readme_renderer cmarkgfm >> ``` >> > > That did the trick, though I had to use --upgrade instead of --update. > Thanks... Now on to the next step. My bad. Of course I meant --upgrade. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: redirecting -bounces replies

by Mark Sapiro

Instead of what I wrote at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… you might consider whether setting the list's Notify owner on bounce increment to Yes and Forward unrecognized bounces to List or Site admins might do what you want. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Installation Questions [Installation}

by Arte Chambers

Hello everyone, I'm running Ubuntu 24.10 and following the Virtualenv instructions <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setup-mailman-u…>. When creating the mailman user per the instructions I find that the mailman user doesn't have sufficient permissions to do things later in the installation such as creating files in /etc. What steps should I take to ensure that the mailman user has the correct permissions to install the Mailman app. Thank you, Arte Chambers

5 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Installation Questions [Installation}

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/3/24 17:58, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > For > other things like the systemd service and the postfix and web server > configs, you need to do them as root (via sudo). > > Does this mean i need to add the mailman user as a sudoer? No. `mailman` doesn't need to be a sudoer. Somebody needs to be root or a sudoer to create systemd files and edit postfix and web server configs, but that doesn't need to be `mailman`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: "held for moderation" - alias domain details sought

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/24 09:10, Greg Newby via Mailman-users wrote: > > If I use an alias domain, will that replace the need for entries in > /etc/aliases? I'm hesitant to explore since this is my production mail > server. No. The alias_domain attribute of a Mailman domain is for a completely different purpose. It has nothing to do with enabling multiple addresses for posting to a list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] How to keep virtualenv install secure?

by Lichtinger, Bernhard

Hi, I am looking for some advice: If we use the virtualenv install method, how does one keep track of security updates for all the installed dependencies? I can think of: - Upgrade regularly all installed packages inside the virtualenv. This might break mailman3 if there are incompatible updates. - Try to track all dependencies and check if there are security updates published. This might be impossible to achieve. - Security updates are so rare, we do not need to bother. ;) Thanks, Bernhard

5 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius not HTML-decoding < to "<" characters

by Jeremy Stanley

On 2024-11-09 13:05:16 -0800 (-0800), Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] > Also, it depends on the archive rendering mode and only occurs if the mode > is Markdown text rather than Plain text. It is really `mistune`, > <https://mistune.lepture.com/en/latest/index.html>, which is doing the > markdown rendering and which `escapes` HTML tags. [...] On a related note, the MD rendering here seems to misinterpret sig separators as markup. Like this... -- Jeremy Stanley

5 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Bulk delivery status change?

by Stephen Daniel

Mistakes were made, and for while every single outbound email bounced. I've fixed the mistakes, but now in my largest and most active email list, every single user's delivery status is "Disabled by Bounces". Is there a way to bulk fix this? Or do I have to go into each user, one at a time, and fix them? Thanks! -- Steve

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Unexpexted error: if you are sure you want to run as root, specify --run-as-root"

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/25/24 5:50 AM, w.schoener(a)alp.dillingen.de wrote: > I tried: > mailman shell -l --run-as-root my.list.id That should be `mailman --run-as-root shell -l my.list.id` but as Odhiambo says you should never run `mailman` commands as `root` unless you really know what you are doing which is why the --run-as-root option is required. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Problem with importing lists

by Alain D D Williams

On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 11:27:13AM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Are you running `mailman import21` as `root` and thus creating files in > Mailman's var/templates/lists/ directory that can't be read by `mailman`? Yes: fixed by a quick: chgrp -R list /var/lib/mailman3/templates/lists Yes: I do remember reading something about that but forgot. This will go in my notes. Thanks a lot for your help and patience! -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Contact.html #include <std_disclaimer.h>

4 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Hyperkitty search on Message-ID?

by Bryan Fields

I've been working with a rather large import and am finding that I can't seem to get the search on a Message-ID: to return anything. I can do this via the DB, and then look at the message, but this is less than ideal, and requires DB access. > mailmanweb=> select message_id_hash from hyperkitty_email where message_id = '19991231211903.C2870(a)abq-mail-01.ihighway.net'; > message_id_hash > ---------------------------------- > IWKEJSPTJODEHARQ2VI6BEFQKNEJYM22 Any ideas how to get it indexing the ID so a layperson can search on it? -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

4 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty performance problem

by Odhiambo Washington

On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 4:18 PM monochromec via Mailman-users < mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > In addition I have the following questions: > - How to turn on verbose logging for the pipeline runner (as the changes > in mailman3.cfg didn't have any effects as outlined above)? > from https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/config/schema.… . So I guess you can do: [logging.runner] level: debug -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

3 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: How to remove Held Unsubscriptions

by lowell＠fas.harvard.edu

Mark, I appreciate your trying to help. I'm just an end user. I don't control when or how HUIT updates their services, and don't myself have access to mailman shell to do the manual version. I'll send this thread link to IT and see if they can handle it. Clearly it's not a priority, since I can just ignore the emails, but given that it's a new year, I figured I'd try and tackle it again.

3 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Mailing list welcome message won't update

by frances.du＠uq.edu.au

HI Mark, I simply tested by unsubsribing to the mailing list and then re-subscribing to receive the welcome message. How do you test using the mailman command with user list? Thank you. Frances

3 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Configuring ARC with multiple domains in Mailman3

by Lance A. Brown

I'm working on setting up MailMan 3 on an Ubuntu 24.04 LTS server. I've got everything running and working with docker-mailman. Now I'm looking at configuring ARC and am a bit lost. How is ARC configured in a mailman3 with multiple domains? Do I set it up to use the hostname of the server Mailman is running on? Thanks for any assistance, --[Lance]

2 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Pck files stuck in out queue

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Mark Sapiro writes: > It is definitely related. That (very uninformative) message is > logged once only after the out runner is started the first time > calls the decorate handler and the handler can't access a template. So this socket.error is an escape from template.py:TemplateLoader (most likely bubbling up from template.py:TemplateManager)? I'd like to catch this error and do something useful with it. Steve

2 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Heads up: settings.ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD is deprecated

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/7/25 03:19, Andreas Vetter wrote: > > Changing ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD to ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS in > /etc/mailman3/settings.py is not enough. One has to edit > venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailman_web/settings/mailman.py You can do this in /etc/mailman3/settings.py only without editing venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailman_web/settings/mailman.py by adding ``` del ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'email', 'username'} ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core.

by Christian

Running Debian 4.19.316-1 Python 3.7.3 I am unable to start mailman core mailman@lists:~$ /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman start Usage: mailman start [OPTIONS] Try 'mailman start -h' for help. Error: A previous run of GNU Mailman did not exit cleanly (stale_lock). Try using --force mailman@lists:~$ I try using --force and it did not work. So how do I start it? Bottom line: I would like for Mailman core to start when I reboot the server. How can this be achieved please?

2 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Speed up importing mailman2 lists

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Jeremy Stanley writes: > In our case, "as long as needed" is approximately forever, [...] > since we'd rather not break random links elsewhere on the Web, > e.g. in news articles that link to list discussions. Yeah, that's a MAJOR consideration for MANY use cases. Be aware, folks! It's a problem I didn't face in either of the massive migrations. In the bigger one a quick poll of active users suggested they didn't have such links, or if they did they'd do a search anyway. In the latter case the same archiver is still in use.

2 months

[MM3-users] Postfix + MariaDB + Mailman 3 Core

by Peter Knowles

== ENVIRONMENT == OS: Debian 12 Mailman Core: 3.11.2 Install Mode: venv == QUESTION == I'd like to do a more advanced setup with regards to my MTA setup. *** I have mastered the art of setting up Mailman 3 Core to use MariaDB vs PostgreSQL *** What I'm after is the ability to make use of MariaDB with: transport_maps local_recipient_maps relay_domains In particular, with regards to Mailman 3 Core generated content. So instead of referencing a postmap generated file which MM3 presently generates, but have MM3 add and/or remove those records to/from a MariaDB table. Appreciate any insights on this task.

1 month, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: How to process emails with Mailman3?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/11/25 4:30 AM, Kyle Lahnakoski wrote: > > I guess I will be parsing the message to find that recipient. Since you are doing this in a Python script anyway, just use Python's email library to parse the message and Python's smtplib to send the message to Mailman's LMTP runner. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Disable deletion of list in Postorious

by Julian Kippels

Hi, I would like to configure Postorious in a way to disable the functionality to delete a list. Is there a way to do this? Thanks Julian

4 weeks, 1 day

[MM3-users] Re: Disable deletion of list in Postorious

by Odhiambo Washington

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 6:06 PM Julian Kippels <kippels(a)hhu.de> wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to configure Postorious in a way to disable the > functionality to delete a list. Is there a way to do this? > > Thanks > Julian > Also so that no one can create a list, right? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

4 weeks, 1 day

[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by jkoral＠luc.edu

Mark, can you clarify the part about (Postorius Admin immed notify is Yes)? Is that a separate setting than admin_immed_notify is True? If so , how do I check that setting.

4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Mark Sapiro

On March 27, 2025 2:20:56 AM GMT+07:00, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: >Mark, can you clarify the part about (Postorius Admin immed notify is Yes)? Is that a separate setting than admin_immed_notify is True? If so , how do I check that setting. They are the same. The setting is admin_immed_notify which is a True/False setting. This setting is exposed in Postorius as a Yes/No setting called Admin immediately notify. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

4 weeks

[MM3-users] Regarding nested mailing lists in mailman 3

by Chandrakant Pandey

Hi, I want to know whether we can setup nested mailing lists in mailman 3 which we used to do in mailman 2. like ep2021@iitb.ac.in,ep2022@iitb.ac.in,ep2023@iitb.ac.in mailing lists exist and we add all this mailing lists as member in ep(a)iitb.ac.in. Whether this kind of nested mailing lists work ? --chandrakant

3 weeks, 1 day

[Abhilash] Regarding nested mailing lists in mailman 3

by chandrakant.pandey＠iitb.ac.in

Hi, I want to know whether we can setup nested mailing lists in mailman 3 which we used to do in mailman 2. like ep2021@iitb.ac.in,ep2022@iitb.ac.in,ep2023@iitb.ac.in mailing lists exist and we add all this mailing lists as member in ep(a)iitb.ac.in. Whether this kind of nested mailing lists work ? --chandrakant

3 weeks

[MM3-users] Change delivery_status in bulk

by Hitashi mancho

Dear All, We have a Mailman3 instance with around 500 mailing lists. Most of the mailing lists have 5000 subscribers. Because of some misconfiguration in the postfix, posting for 1000 users has been bounced. Until we realized what happened, the mailman had set delivery_status to "disabled_by_bounces." for many subscribers. Now, I am unable to locate any command or an API call through which I can change the delivery_status back to enabled for 1000+ users. Can you please guide me on how I can do this programmatically using cli (I will write a bash script) or using an API call? Regards, Hitachi.

2 weeks, 6 days

[MM3-users] Re: Can't post to my own list from HyperKitty

by MegaBrutal

On Mon, Apr 7, 2025, 03:04 Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > so it is saying there is only one choice for sender which I think means > there is only one address associated with your login. That still doesn't > explain why it thinks you're not a list member. > Indeed, it doesn't explain. Are there any maintenance scripts or DB queries you recommend to run to get to see what's happening under the hood? I've already tried ``mailman-web mailman_sync``, but it didn't do anything. >

2 weeks, 2 days

[MM3-users] Re: Setup Question: Disk-Layout (Migrating from Mailman 2.1)

by Mihai Moldovan

* On 4/17/25 19:38, Mark Sapiro wrote: > There is no Mailman command to do this, but a Python script is very > simple. Something like > ``` > [script] > ``` Great, that will definitely create it in the format expected by Python and hence mailman! Thank you very much. Mihai

6 days, 14 hours

[MM3-users] Re: Upgrade docker-mailman to v0.5.2

by Christopher

Hi Abhilash, looking for the upgrade again I still hang on the old question: Do you have any experience with migrating from 0.4.6 to 0.5.2 on mariadb? Best regards, chrclaus

2 days, 15 hours

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/21/2017 02:05 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > > (env2) [mailman@localhost mailman-suite_project]$ python2 manage.py > runserver > Performing system checks... > > System check identified no issues (0 silenced). > July 21, 2017 - 20:50:29 > Django version 1.11.3, using settings 'settings' > Starting development server at http://127.0.0.1:8000/ > Quit the server with CONTROL-C. And did you try to go to http://127.0.0.1:8000/ or http://localhost:8000/ from a browser on that machine? If you're truing to access it from another machine, you need to do something like python2 manage.py runserver 192.168.1.42:8000 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Sad news - Brian Carpenter

by Mark Dadgar

On May 12, 2021, at 12:45 PM, smorytko(a)gmail.com wrote: > https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/21066847/Brian-Keith-Carpenter/wa… > > I mentioned some "unfortunate circumstances" in a recent post. An inquiry from Mark Sapiro prompted me to do a search and I sadly found this. > > Brian's company managed our list and on 4/22 we became aware that he was hospitalized with Covid. > > Rest in peace Brian. That’s awful. Brian was a great help to me in setting up a solid MM3 installation after my mess of a self-install and he’s been a constant source of assistance on this list. RIP Brian. 😞 - Mark ----- mark(a)pdc-racing.net | 408-348-2878

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: email command join - problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/28/21 5:34 AM, sky.x--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > @Peter, hmm interesting, im used Kopano webmail and message format is set to plain/text, also when i open bcc copy of raw message it looks as plain/text. I will test another client at the night hours. The QP encoding probably occurs because you have non-ascii in the message body - perhaps in a signature? If you view the raw message source of the Bcc, what do you see? In particular is there a ``` Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ``` header? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty stuck files

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/10/24 6:55 AM, zoltan(a)circle-interactive.co.uk wrote: > > Can this maybe be added to the installation guide? > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html That guide is for an installation using PostgreSQL. We do mention the OPTIONS setting for MySQL in multiple places. E.g., https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite/-/blame/master/mailman-suite_proje… https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/blob/master/example_project/setting… https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-web/-/blame/master/mailman_web/settings/… However, I just added a comment to https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#initial-configu… about this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: using SSH/TLS with external MTA

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/24 04:03, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > I am following this thread out of curiosity. > So I added the same lines to my /opt/mailman3/settings.py - on a virtualenv > install of the latest MM3 code.It's my test VM. > After adding the lines and restarting mailmanweb, I then entered the > virtualenv and did 'mailman-web createsuperuser' which completed > successfully, but NO MAIL! And why do you think `mailman-web createsuperuser` results in mail being sent? (It doesn't) -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Missing styling on select pages

by grodriguez＠usra.edu

Hello all, I installed mailman3 on Rocky Linux 9 via the Virtualenv Installation installation guide. I configured Apache httpd to proxy gunicorn. For the most part, everything is looking good except for some select pages that do not contain the styling like all other pages. When a user sees the "Verify Your Email Address" screen, it's without any of the styling. /accounts/confirm-email/ Same for when a user tries to reset their password. The initial screen looks good (with styling), but after entering the email address and clicking "Reset My Password", the following screen is bare. /accounts/password/reset/done/ I have Mailman 3.3.10, Postorius Version 1.3.13, and HyperKitty version 1.3.12. Any suggestions?

2 weeks, 1 day

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman web Stopped working after upgrade

by David Krantz

But now that it is working the order of the mailing lists on the index page are in random order again. When it worked initially they seemed sorted by name. Whey I follow the link "see all lists" the order is correct, though. Annoying. BR // David On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 10:26 PM David Krantz <gazorg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I tried psycopg2-binary and a few other rehashes of that. Now I got it > working by downloading the source for psycopg2 manually and building > it myself, then I installed it into my venv like any other self-built > package. https://pypi.org/project/psycopg2/#files > > I run mod_wsgi in Apache so I thought it should be enough to restart > Apache. I am quite convinced that I did that (and for that matter > restart the machine at a few points). But I might have been sloppy and > reversed the order in the end when I got it running, this process is a > bit to manual. I will use another solution when I rebuild the server > one day. The problem with rebuilding the server is that I'd have to > install a MTA with all its modules, milters, setups and what not, and > mailman. To just reinstall on a fresh machine would be easy, the trick > is that I want to rebuild some things in a better way which will take > me some time. E.g. using a separate wsgi service and a more modern > spam filter than Spamassassin. Otherwise it is easy. But my situation > now is a bit short on time so if I can postpone that a bit I will. > > Thanks. > // David > > // David > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 10:02 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > > > > On 3/3/20 12:33 PM, David Krantz wrote: > > > > > > I think that this might be due to some kind of python misfeature where > > > compiled code behaves slightly differently to interpreted code, that > > > might explain the delay in it working initially before breaking. I > > > have no idea of how to solve this. I have tried to uninstall and > > > reinstlall psycopg2 in different versions without any luck. > > > > You need to activate your virtualenv and do > > > > pip install psycopg2-binary > > > > it must be psycopg2-binary, not just psycopg2. It's probably best to do > > > > pip uninstall psycopg2 > > > > first. > > > > As far as it working for a while, did you restart your wsgi service > > (gunicorn, uwsgi, ??) after upgrading? > > > > -- > > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Verification Failed Error

by Odhiambo Washington

I agree with you. On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 23:21, Abhilash Raj <maxking(a)asynchronous.in> wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 20:19, Abhilash Raj <maxking(a)asynchronous.in> > wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, at 4:00 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Abhilash Raj writes: > > > > > Exim experts would be able to help you better with this. > > > > I'm the one who set up the original sample Exim .conf, because (a) I > > didn't want to migrate all my bots to Postfix, and (b) the one-real- > > host .conf turned out to be trivial. I'm an Exim expert only for my > > own configuration, which is a (pre-global-warming) glacially-moving > > target. I've never seen anything like the problems described here, > > sorry. Can't help. > > > > Since it's looking like we don't have any real Exim experts hanging > > around here, perhaps we should move the sample containers and other > > default configs to assume Postfix and document "Exim should work but > > you're kinda on your own, we'll do what we can but it's limited." At > > least Mark is maintaining such systems, and they're probably better > > documented than Exim for the single-real-host configuration, though > > they would probably run into similar problems with the containerized > > setup. WDOT? > > > Originally, the reason I went with Exim was because the postmap + hash > files were hard to generate for Mailman from within the container when > the postfix was running on the host. Exim checks existence of certain > paths to verify that the Mailing List exists, which was easier to do. > > However, now Mailman Core supports regex maps for Postfix, which > can be used with containers. > > Images already support using Postfix, it is just not the default in setup > scripts and documentation. I have opened an issue[1] to maybe change > that if some initial testing doesn't goes fine. > > [1]: https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman/issues/282 > > > > Hello Maxking, > > It is importantest to maintain Exim support :-) > > > > I didn't mean to say that we are going to stop supporting Exim, it is just > that > I'll make Postfix default in Container given that most of the Mailman Devs > are > more comfortable helping out people with Postfix issues, as they use it for > their own personal setups. > > Switching between default and non-default would be easy and both of them > will be supported, to the best my own abilities :) > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 > "Oh, the cruft.", grep ^[^#] :-) > > > -- > thanks, > Abhilash Raj (maxking) > > > -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", grep ^[^#] :-)

6 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] MM3 gateway errors and frequent reboot needs

by hansen＠rc.org

We have had to reboot the list server almost every week and wonder if there is something leaking and eating up resources. I does not appear to be memory, though. The server is slow to respond (could be because it's overseas) and then after some time we get intermittent gateway errors and finally we cannot access the lists online because of the gateway errors. It appears to me that the issue is with Postorius, but I could be wrong. Do files get closed after opening? Are we alone having such issues? Please advise. PS: My old MM2 installation could (and did) run without any help. Not so with MM3.

5 years

[MM3-users] MM3 on debian - redirect problem

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Gelpi Andrea writes: > Hi, > on a debian10 I have mm3 installed via apt-get It's OK to ask here, but for best results also ask on Debian and maybe Ubuntu channels (check the Ubuntu supported and/or testing distro versions to see if they're relevant). Even if we're running Debian, most of the devs will be running built-from-source, and even many of the Debian users here will likely be using Docker images and so on rather than Debian's .debs. Sorry I can't be of real help :-(, but I don't see any answers yet, and that's the best I can do. Regards, Steve

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: statistics monitoring for Mailman3

by Seth Seeger

> On Mar 12, 2021, at 12:10 AM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > > On 3/11/21 8:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> The data are in Mailman's smtp.log, but I'm not aware of anyone who's >> written anything to analyze it. It would be fairly easy to do depending >> on exactly what you want. > > > You inspired me. See <https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/smtp_report>. I get the following error: File "./smtp_report", line 44 print(f' {lname}: {tot}') ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax I'm running python3 (3.5.3), and I'm afraid I don't know enough python to know what's wrong. Thanks, Seth

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Migrating archives from mailman2 to mailman3 with attachments

by bob B

So I see the process for migrating an archive from mailman2 to mailman3 https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html.................. i.e python manage.py hyperkitty_import -l foo-list(a)example.com $var_prefix/archives/private/foo-list.mbox/foo-list.mbox but does the migration handle attachments?? attachments are in ..../archives/private/foo-list/attachments. I assume this is if you are upgrading in place? I am migrating to a new server and my plan is to follow these steps but copy the config.pck. and .mbox files to the new server and import them, but then it looks like I need to copy the attachment directory? if so how do I import the attachments to mailman3?

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users]Re: mailman 2 vs. mailman 3: what happened to multipart/digest?

by Barry Warsaw

On May 12, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >It is the intent that Postorius will eventually expose all these >settings. We're not there yet. At present you could possibly do this by >interacting with mailmanclient, although I'm not certain the settings are >exposed there. I'm not sure if they're exposed in mailmanclient, but they are exposed in the core's REST API, on the member resource. It's the `delivery_mode` attribute and it takes as legal values one of 'regular', 'plaintext_digests', 'mime_digests', and 'summary_digests' (IOW, the enum item names for the DeliveryMode enum). Cheers, -Barry

8 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Rafael Mora

Good, it answered my call but now I get this: raise MissingDependency("The 'whoosh' backend requires the installation of 'Whoosh'. Please refer to the documentation.") MissingDependency: The 'whoosh' backend requires the installation of 'Whoosh'. Please refer to the documentation. [21/Jul/2017 21:25:23] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 500 59 it says it needs whoosh How do I install that? on env2 with python2 or env with python3 ??? El vie., 21 jul. 2017 a las 16:23, Kyle Richardson (< kylerichardson2(a)gmail.com>) escribió: > If your browser is on a remote system, you'll want to run the command: > > 'python2 manage.py runserver 0.0.0.0:8000' > > -Kyle > -- Atentamente / Best Regards Ing. Rafael Mora

7 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Relaying email from external SMTP server (office365 or Exchange)

by Waqas Ahmed Khan

Hi, I have installed mailman3 with postfix. The server is working fine. To protect the IPs from blacklisting, I want to relay all emails from postfix/mailman to external SMTP servers like O365, Gmail, or our exchange server. Could you please confirm is this possible. And how to do its configuration. Regards, *Waqas Ahmed Khan* p: +923212608044 Skype: waqas-ahmed00 <waqas.ahmed0(a)gmail.com> waqas.ahmed0(a)gmail.com [image: LinkedIn] <http://pk.linkedin.com/pub/waqas-ahmed-khan/15/96a/39a/> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Rejection Reason for refusing a subscription request

by Brian Carpenter

On 3/27/21 6:03 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > It's in Postorius since 1.3.3. If in the held message view, you click > the subject of a held message, you get a popup dialog the shows the > message with options to also show headers or the raw message. There is > also a dropdown t=o set the poster's moderation action and a box for a > reject reason if you click the reject button in the dialog. > > Do you not see this? I am referring to "Subscriptions pending approval". I apologize if I did not make that clear. -- Brian Carpenter Harmonylists.com Emwd.com

4 years

[MM3-users] mailman changeaddress: Address already exists; can't change

by joelbrownstein＠computer.org

Hi, We migrated ~100 lists from mailman2 to mailman3 (very nice!) including > 6000 distinct email addresses ("subscribers"). I would like to run the mailman changeaddress command to do a global change of email for a member that moved. But they have other subscriptions using their new email, so both the old and new address are migrated to mailman3 as distinct "members", which prevents the mailman changeaddress from making the change with error: $ mailman changeaddress "EMAIL_1" "EMAIL_2" Usage: mailman changeaddress [OPTIONS] OLD_ADDRESS NEW_ADDRESS Try 'mailman changeaddress -h' for help. Error: Address "EMAIL_2" already exists; can't change. Is there a workaround? Thanks, Joel

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Upgrade commands under Docker

by Abhilash Raj

> On Oct 26, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Seth Seeger <seth(a)tofutavern.com> wrote: > > Another docker upgrade question... according to the upgrade docs > > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/upgrade-3.2.html#post-upgrade > > you are supposed to stop the web service and run a series of commands (compress/collectstatic/etc). How do you stop the service under Docker? If I stop the container, then I cannot access the manage.py command. Docker will run all the commands you find in the documentation when the container starts up. The process needs to be documented there, but it is essentially as describe in this issue’s description: https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman/issues/293 -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Heads up: settings.ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD is deprecated

by Andreas Vetter

On Freitag, 7. Februar 2025 18:40:32 CET Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 2/7/25 03:19, Andreas Vetter wrote: > > Changing ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD to ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS in > > /etc/mailman3/settings.py is not enough. One has to edit > > venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailman_web/settings/mailman.py > > You can do this in /etc/mailman3/settings.py only without editing > venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailman_web/settings/mailman.py by adding > ``` > del ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD > ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'email', 'username'} That is unfortunately not enough to get rid of the Warning, because venv/lib/ python3.11/site-packages/mailman_web/settings/mailman.py contains the old ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD and allauth is complains about it. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Andreas Vetter

2 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] SOLVED was --- Re: Re: Debian 11 mailman3 installation question

by Stephen J. Turnbull

William Oliver writes: > Doh. Nobody should beat up on themselves for this kind of oops, that's REALLY hard to catch. Thank you, Bill, for going to the trouble to find it yourself! > So, I have to say ... the Debian automatic installation is a > breeze. Good job to whomever did it. It's a thousand times faster > than downloading and configuring from scratch, like I did last > time. Thanks for the report. Glad to hear OS packaging is working on *some* platforms. From recent (painful) experience, I cannot recommend doing using the OS packages on Ubuntu 20 LTS, unfortunately. Steve

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Post-installation documentation?

by David Newman

On 11/25/21 1:16 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/25/21 10:56 AM, David Newman wrote: >> >> Thanks for this. After setting these variables and restarting mailman3 >> and mailmanweb, the mailman user still cannot find a hyperkitty_import >> command (neither can root, btw). Again, I installed MM3 and >> Django/Postorius/Hyperkitty using the venv and web docs previously >> referenced. > > > Don't run mailman or django admin commands as root. This causes issues > when files are created by root and can't be read by mailman. Understood, thanks. I'd only tried root to determine if there was a permissions issue, where hyperkitty_import really did exist but wasn't available to the mailman user. > > What django admin command are you running? As the mailman user, with venv activated: (venv) mailman@lists:~$ hyperkitty_import -l testlist(a)lists.domain.com /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/testlist.mbox/testlist.mbox 'testlist' and 'lists.domain.com' are redactions; they are correct in the given command, but the command fails because the system can't find hyperkitty_import. (BTW Also, because I'm looking to migrate from Mailman 2.1 installed from Debian packages, all the 2.1 stuff is owned by the 'list' user. I'd changed ownership of the above private archive to mailman:mailman for the command not to complain about permissions. > If you don't set > DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE in the environment and you have activated your > virtualenv and run `mailman-web` as the django admin command it will set > /etc/mailman3/settings.py as the settings. I'd run these two environment commands as the mailman user with virtualenv activated: export DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE=settings export PYTHONPATH=/etc/mailman3/settings.py Am I being overly literal here with 'settings' in that first command? Asking because 'mailman-web check' runs clean before running these commands and returns this error afterward: ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'settings' Either way, the hyperkitty_import command still isn't found. >> On the plus side, all lists now appear in the admin web page. However, >> lists created from the admin page do not appear in a site list page, >> even though all lists are in the same site/domain. > > > By default, only lists that you are owner, moderator or subscriber for > are shown. What if you click Filter by Role and select All? Same result. In this case, the ID of the admin and list owner are the same. > > >> Finally, how to make these exports permanent? I did not see this >> covered in the migration doc above. This is on a Debian system where >> the mailman user's shell is bash. Is this simply a matter of adding >> environment variables in the mailman user's .bashrc file? > > You can do that but as I note above, if you run `mailman-web` you > shouldn't need to. You can add a `source /opt/mailman/venv/bin/activate` > command as mentioned at > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#activate-virtua…. Yes, this is what I have in mailman's .bashrc file. I'd followed that venv doc for initial installation, and it activates the virtualenv whenever launching a shell for mailman. dn

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[MM3-users] Re: Enable delivery

by Hirayama, Pat

No, I was obfuscating the addresses of the user and listname. And it was the trailing dot/period that was the problem. Sorry about that -- copy/pasting from the emailed report rather than typing the address myself. Now that I have the commands and order, I will look closer at some of those lists when additional reports come in. Thank you! -p > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 1:41 PM > To: mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > Subject: [MM3-users] Re: Enable delivery > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > On 12/10/24 10:43, Hirayama, Pat wrote: > > Apologies, I should've said my "Mailman 3" server, not listserv. > > > > MTA logs do not show messages being sent to the member(s) in question, > even though other members are being sent messages. Nothing out of the > mailman server, and nothing received by our outbound Postfix MTAs. > > > > As for the CLI commands, I keep getting Attribute Error when I try them, like: > > > > /opt/mailman # mailman shell -l listname(a)mailman.tld > > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell > > Use commit() to commit changes. > > Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. > > Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. > > The variable 'm' is the listname(a)mailman.tld mailing list > >>>> from mailman.core.constants import system_preferences > >>>> mbr = m.members.get_member('user(a)domain.com.') > >>>> print(mbr.delivery_status) > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "<console>", line 1, in <module> > > AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'delivery_status' > > > Are you literally typing > > mbr = m.members.get_member('user(a)domain.com.') > > That needs to be an actual list member's email without a trailing > period. The fact that mbr is None means whatever you provided is not a > member of the listname(a)mailman.tld list. > > Curious that the member(s) in question are not amongst the recipients > delivered to the MTA even though > > >> when I run: > >> > >> mailman members --nomail any listname@listserv > >> > >> Nothing is returned. > > This should only happen if the members are digest members (are they) or > are directly addressed in To: or Cc: of the post. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mail > man- > users.mailman3.org/__;!!GuAItXPztq0!kBv3nt9E96ao_7FvkLnOsm_R9OWol1 > U4Lk0bnfCxTPiRuYdCv4jHRpx11tT3vx2cyFNW8ByfZlsvtwg$ > Archived at: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailma > n- > users(a)mailman3.org/message/ET7NTZVDLCY6RBXHUIYRVTYQQX6SQ3KI/__; > !!GuAItXPztq0!kBv3nt9E96ao_7FvkLnOsm_R9OWol1U4Lk0bnfCxTPiRuYdCv4 > jHRpx11tT3vx2cyFNW8ByfwPhcXNc$ > > This message sent to phirayam(a)fredhutch.org

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