user mail not accepted
I have a user whose moderation rule is 'Accept immediately' yet when they send a message for distribution to the list, they only receive it and it is not distributed via the list. Logfile entries below. Please advise. Btw I have another list on this same instance which is running fine. Thank you.
[26/Apr/2021:12:06:25 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org HTTP/1.1" 200 453 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:25 +0000] "POST /3.1/members/find?list_id=ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org&subscriber=christian %40sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com HTTP/1.1" 200 1257 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:25 +0000] "PATCH /3.1/members/7186cd45bde34d4fa7e7b5ab36b97272 HTTP/1.1" 204 0 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org HTTP/1.1" 200 453 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "POST /3.1/members/find?list_id=ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org&subscriber=christian %40sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com HTTP/1.1" 200 1288 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org/requests/count?token_owner=moderato r HTTP/1.1" 200 73 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org/held/count HTTP/1.1" 200 73 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/members/7186cd45bde34d4fa7e7b5ab36b97272/preferences HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2"
On 4/26/21 5:16 AM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote:
I have a user whose moderation rule is 'Accept immediately' yet when they send a message for distribution to the list, they only receive it and it is not distributed via the list. Logfile entries below. Please advise. Btw I have another list on this same instance which is running fine. Thank you.
[26/Apr/2021:12:06:25 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org HTTP/1.1" 200 453 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:25 +0000] "POST /3.1/members/find?list_id=ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org&subscriber=christian %40sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com HTTP/1.1" 200 1257 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:25 +0000] "PATCH /3.1/members/7186cd45bde34d4fa7e7b5ab36b97272 HTTP/1.1" 204 0 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org HTTP/1.1" 200 453 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "POST /3.1/members/find?list_id=ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org&subscriber=christian %40sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com HTTP/1.1" 200 1288 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org/requests/count?token_owner=moderato r HTTP/1.1" 200 73 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org/held/count HTTP/1.1" 200 73 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/members/7186cd45bde34d4fa7e7b5ab36b97272/preferences HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2"
These entries don't tell anything about a post to the list. They are all from Mailman's REST API relating to Postorius interactions with core.
However the absence of messages like
Apr 26 07:32:39 2021 (17860) ACCEPT: <message_id> and Apr 26 07:32:41 2021 (17857) HyperKitty archived message <message_id> to https://example.com/archives/list/list_adderss/message/message_id_hash/
assuming you are looking at the correct time span, says there wasn't an accepted list post.
Mailman's smtp.log may have more info, but the complete, raw message that the user receives may be more helpful.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
From smtp.log
Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) ('127.0.0.1', 38370) Data: b'DATA' Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) ('127.0.0.1', 38370) Data: b'QUIT' Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) ('127.0.0.1', 38370) connection lost Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) Connection lost during _handle_client() Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <019301d73a31$8e8e54e0$abaafea0$@ncboliviapartners.org> smtp to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org for 83 recips, completed in 29.13376259803772 seconds Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <019301d73a31$8e8e54e0$abaafea0$@ncboliviapartners.org> post to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org from christian@ncboliviapartners.org, 5811 bytes Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <161939626169.810.9530678025639681522@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.0420069694519043 seconds Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <161939626169.810.9530678025639681522@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org from ncpoa-bounces@lists.ccalternatives.org, 869 bytes Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793957.929.15640398646519288095@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.22335004806518555 seconds Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793957.929.15640398646519288095@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from ssan-bounces@lists.ccalternatives.org, 765 bytes Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793960.929.13309139087156940549@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 2 recips, completed in 0.05862092971801758 seconds Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793960.929.13309139087156940549@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from noreply@lists.ccalternatives.org, 810 bytes Apr 26 11:55:22 2021 (819) <161943812108.929.10391982256874011271@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.1459965705871582 seconds Apr 26 11:55:22 2021 (819) <161943812108.929.10391982256874011271@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from ssan-confirm+2144530ad102026077911eac6eb574bcbd04be92@lists.ccalternatives.o rg, 1526 bytes Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) Available AUTH mechanisms: LOGIN(builtin) PLAIN(builtin) Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) Peer: ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) handling connection Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'LHLO zarathustra.ccalternatives.org' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'MAIL FROM:<christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com>' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) sender: christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'RCPT TO:<ssan-confirm+2144530ad102026077911eac6eb574bcbd04be92@lists.ccalternativ es.org>' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) recip: ssan-confirm+2144530ad102026077911eac6eb574bcbd04be92@lists.ccalternatives.o rg Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'DATA' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'QUIT' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) connection lost Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) Connection lost during _handle_client() Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849287.814.5890052642238479423@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 2 recips, completed in 0.06680631637573242 seconds Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849287.814.5890052642238479423@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from noreply@lists.ccalternatives.org, 821 bytes Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849292.814.6140111398379700592@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.04269862174987793 seconds Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849292.814.6140111398379700592@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from ssan-request@lists.ccalternatives.org, 1335 bytes
Message sent that only the user receives:
Return-Path: <christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com> Delivered-To: ces@ecovillage.cc Received: from box.ecovillage.cc ([127.0.0.1]) by box.ecovillage.cc with LMTP id MDucNBythmCTSwAAMoO61A for <ces@ecovillage.cc>; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 05:07:56 -0700 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on box.ecovillage.cc X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature * 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily * valid * -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from * author's domain X-Spam-Score: -1.1 Received: from authenticated-user (box.ecovillage.cc [45.79.28.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by box.ecovillage.cc (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6EADF3E8CC for <ssan@lists.naturalintelligence.us>; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 05:07:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com; s=mail; t=1619438876; bh=1M7F/uIS0bNG6cWjecy/a9QjskrHVwJHkjWRv+ffpM4=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From; b=jXOswVZgFeHBB+sjIDqVkNBQqIbfZCj9ZUfpVwl10NQEkGaoxckPHNOKT6x9zIqsW BZ7iZqqi2mWprVQ8LrK48Lp7gvCQ/ipqspMeLt3t+uljzTtryHmV6uJFEAU3hqM33Y nQqX6Z8la8Ko40F9Ayb4h4e/MOfPdA4nadgf5hZzt/DzPFZvzUbG3V8lWcHuyJNA2y SQkhbNubQ6iNEEB0SyBjoOjl3g3LVxjxY+9kMGGmX+1PFfW90CpDDShRmKkkscEWaA NiV0fX6U5LENBBnc6Q9ImLgXuaLdCqlBRBumJBk+eUUr007rpXXVAPck2NvUzGyM2v kNNGlT68hGzEg== From: <christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com> To: <ssan@lists.naturalintelligence.us> References: In-Reply-To: Subject: How US chemical industry lobbying and cash defeated regulation in Trump era Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 05:07:37 -0700 Message-ID: <020501d73a94$cbe17440$63a45cc0$@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0206_01D73A5A.1F831170" Thread-Index: Adc6h7I/qzBKx1yOT6aPOuipppacoQACatZAAADW1wA= Content-Language: en-us
How US chemical industry lobbying and cash defeated regulation in Trump era Industry's congressional allies defeated nearly all PFAS legislation while the Trump EPA killed, watered down or slowalked new rules
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/26/us-chemical-companies-lo bbying-donation-defeated-regulation
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 2:05 PM To: mailman-users@mailman3.org Subject: [MM3-users] Re: user mail not accepted
On 4/26/21 5:16 AM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote:
I have a user whose moderation rule is 'Accept immediately' yet when they send a message for distribution to the list, they only receive it and it is not distributed via the list. Logfile entries below. Please advise. Btw I have another list on this same instance which is running fine. Thank you.
[26/Apr/2021:12:06:25 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org HTTP/1.1" 200 453 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:25 +0000] "POST /3.1/members/find?list_id=ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org&subscriber=chr istian %40sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com HTTP/1.1" 200 1257 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:25 +0000] "PATCH /3.1/members/7186cd45bde34d4fa7e7b5ab36b97272 HTTP/1.1" 204 0 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org HTTP/1.1" 200 453 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "POST /3.1/members/find?list_id=ssan.lists.ccalternatives.org&subscriber=chr istian %40sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com HTTP/1.1" 200 1288 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org/requests/count?token_owner=mo derato r HTTP/1.1" 200 73 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org/held/count HTTP/1.1" 200 73 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2" [26/Apr/2021:12:06:26 +0000] "GET /3.1/members/7186cd45bde34d4fa7e7b5ab36b97272/preferences HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.2"
These entries don't tell anything about a post to the list. They are all from Mailman's REST API relating to Postorius interactions with core.
However the absence of messages like
Apr 26 07:32:39 2021 (17860) ACCEPT: <message_id> and Apr 26 07:32:41 2021 (17857) HyperKitty archived message <message_id> to https://example.com/archives/list/list_adderss/message/message_id_hash/
assuming you are looking at the correct time span, says there wasn't an accepted list post.
Mailman's smtp.log may have more info, but the complete, raw message that the user receives may be more helpful.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users@mailman3.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave@mailman3.org https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/
On 4/26/21 5:00 PM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote:
From smtp.log
Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) ('127.0.0.1', 38370) Data: b'DATA' Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) ('127.0.0.1', 38370) Data: b'QUIT' Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) ('127.0.0.1', 38370) connection lost Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) Connection lost during _handle_client() Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <019301d73a31$8e8e54e0$abaafea0$@ncboliviapartners.org> smtp to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org for 83 recips, completed in 29.13376259803772 seconds Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <019301d73a31$8e8e54e0$abaafea0$@ncboliviapartners.org> post to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org from christian@ncboliviapartners.org, 5811 bytes Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <161939626169.810.9530678025639681522@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.0420069694519043 seconds Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <161939626169.810.9530678025639681522@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org from ncpoa-bounces@lists.ccalternatives.org, 869 bytes Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793957.929.15640398646519288095@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.22335004806518555 seconds Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793957.929.15640398646519288095@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from ssan-bounces@lists.ccalternatives.org, 765 bytes Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793960.929.13309139087156940549@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 2 recips, completed in 0.05862092971801758 seconds Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793960.929.13309139087156940549@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from noreply@lists.ccalternatives.org, 810 bytes Apr 26 11:55:22 2021 (819) <161943812108.929.10391982256874011271@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.1459965705871582 seconds Apr 26 11:55:22 2021 (819) <161943812108.929.10391982256874011271@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from ssan-confirm+2144530ad102026077911eac6eb574bcbd04be92@lists.ccalternatives.o rg, 1526 bytes Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) Available AUTH mechanisms: LOGIN(builtin) PLAIN(builtin) Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) Peer: ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) handling connection Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'LHLO zarathustra.ccalternatives.org' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'MAIL FROM:<christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com>' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) sender: christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'RCPT TO:<ssan-confirm+2144530ad102026077911eac6eb574bcbd04be92@lists.ccalternativ es.org>' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) recip: ssan-confirm+2144530ad102026077911eac6eb574bcbd04be92@lists.ccalternatives.o rg Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'DATA' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'QUIT'
It looks like the above 12:01:30 are the relevant entries, and that message was sent to ssan-confirm+2144530ad102026077911eac6eb574bcbd04be92@lists.ccalternatives.org
which is not the list, but the list's -confirm address.
Was the response received by the user a "results of your email commands" message?
Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) connection lost Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) Connection lost during _handle_client() Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849287.814.5890052642238479423@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 2 recips, completed in 0.06680631637573242 seconds Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849287.814.5890052642238479423@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from noreply@lists.ccalternatives.org, 821 bytes Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849292.814.6140111398379700592@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.04269862174987793 seconds Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849292.814.6140111398379700592@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from ssan-request@lists.ccalternatives.org, 1335 bytes
Message sent that only the user receives:
What I wanted to see was not the message sent to the list, but the message received by the one user from the list. If you are saying this message is that, it didn't come from any Mailman list.
Return-Path: <christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com> Delivered-To: ces@ecovillage.cc Received: from box.ecovillage.cc ([127.0.0.1]) by box.ecovillage.cc with LMTP id MDucNBythmCTSwAAMoO61A for <ces@ecovillage.cc>; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 05:07:56 -0700 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on box.ecovillage.cc X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report:
- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP
- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
- -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature
- 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily
valid- -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from
author's domainHow US chemical industry lobbying and cash defeated regulation in Trump era Industry's congressional allies defeated nearly all PFAS legislation while the Trump EPA killed, watered down or slowalked new rules
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/26/us-chemical-companies-lo bbying-donation-defeated-regulation
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
No. there was no response received by the user a la "results of your email commands" message. Simply the original email sent to the list.
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 5:25 PM To: mailman-users@mailman3.org Subject: [MM3-users] Re: user mail not accepted
On 4/26/21 5:00 PM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote:
From smtp.log
Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) ('127.0.0.1', 38370) Data: b'DATA' Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) ('127.0.0.1', 38370) Data: b'QUIT' Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) ('127.0.0.1', 38370) connection lost Apr 26 00:17:39 2021 (807) Connection lost during _handle_client() Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <019301d73a31$8e8e54e0$abaafea0$@ncboliviapartners.org> smtp to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org for 83 recips, completed in 29.13376259803772 seconds Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <019301d73a31$8e8e54e0$abaafea0$@ncboliviapartners.org> post to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org from christian@ncboliviapartners.org, 5811 bytes Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <161939626169.810.9530678025639681522@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.0420069694519043 seconds Apr 26 00:18:11 2021 (809) <161939626169.810.9530678025639681522@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ncpoa@lists.ccalternatives.org from ncpoa-bounces@lists.ccalternatives.org, 869 bytes Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793957.929.15640398646519288095@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.22335004806518555 seconds Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793957.929.15640398646519288095@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from ssan-bounces@lists.ccalternatives.org, 765 bytes Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793960.929.13309139087156940549@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 2 recips, completed in 0.05862092971801758 seconds Apr 26 11:52:22 2021 (819) <161943793960.929.13309139087156940549@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from noreply@lists.ccalternatives.org, 810 bytes Apr 26 11:55:22 2021 (819) <161943812108.929.10391982256874011271@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.1459965705871582 seconds Apr 26 11:55:22 2021 (819) <161943812108.929.10391982256874011271@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from ssan-confirm+2144530ad102026077911eac6eb574bcbd04be92@lists.ccalternat ssan-confirm+ives.o rg, 1526 bytes Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) Available AUTH mechanisms: LOGIN(builtin) PLAIN(builtin) Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) Peer: ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) handling connection Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'LHLO zarathustra.ccalternatives.org' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'MAIL FROM:<christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com>' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) sender: christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'RCPT TO:<ssan-confirm+2144530ad102026077911eac6eb574bcbd04be92@lists.ccalte rnativ es.org>' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) recip: ssan-confirm+2144530ad102026077911eac6eb574bcbd04be92@lists.ccalternat ssan-confirm+ives.o rg Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'DATA' Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) Data: b'QUIT'
It looks like the above 12:01:30 are the relevant entries, and that message was sent to ssan-confirm+2144530ad102026077911eac6eb574bcbd04be92@lists.ccalternativ ssan-confirm+es.org
which is not the list, but the list's -confirm address.
Was the response received by the user a "results of your email commands" message?
Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) ('127.0.0.1', 38556) connection lost Apr 26 12:01:30 2021 (817) Connection lost during _handle_client() Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849287.814.5890052642238479423@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 2 recips, completed in 0.06680631637573242 seconds Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849287.814.5890052642238479423@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from noreply@lists.ccalternatives.org, 821 bytes Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849292.814.6140111398379700592@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> smtp to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.04269862174987793 seconds Apr 26 12:01:34 2021 (819) <161943849292.814.6140111398379700592@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> post to ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org from ssan-request@lists.ccalternatives.org, 1335 bytes
Message sent that only the user receives:
What I wanted to see was not the message sent to the list, but the message received by the one user from the list. If you are saying this message is that, it didn't come from any Mailman list.
Return-Path: <christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com> Delivered-To: ces@ecovillage.cc Received: from box.ecovillage.cc ([127.0.0.1]) by box.ecovillage.cc with LMTP id MDucNBythmCTSwAAMoO61A for <ces@ecovillage.cc>; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 05:07:56 -0700 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on box.ecovillage.cc X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report:
- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP
- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
- -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature
- 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily
valid- -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from
author's domainHow US chemical industry lobbying and cash defeated regulation in Trump era Industry's congressional allies defeated nearly all PFAS legislation while the Trump EPA killed, watered down or slowalked new rules
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/26/us-chemical-compan ies-lo bbying-donation-defeated-regulation
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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On 4/26/21 5:41 PM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote:
No. there was no response received by the user a la "results of your email commands" message. Simply the original email sent to the list.
I would still like to see the complete raw message as received by the user. That's the only thing that can tell me how it got to that user and provide clues as to why it didn't go to the other list members.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
My apologies. I did not confirm that what I did already sent you was the message received by the user. The mailing list address is ssan@lists.naturalintelligence.us and it seems as though this became an alias for this single user christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com .
What I wanted to see was not the message sent to the list, but the message received by the one user from the list. If you are saying this message is that, it didn't come from any Mailman list.
Return-Path: <christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com> Delivered-To: ces@ecovillage.cc Received: from box.ecovillage.cc ([127.0.0.1]) by box.ecovillage.cc with LMTP id MDucNBythmCTSwAAMoO61A for <ces@ecovillage.cc>; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 05:07:56 -0700 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on box.ecovillage.cc X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report:
- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP
- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
- -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature
- 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily
valid- -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from
author's domainHow US chemical industry lobbying and cash defeated regulation in Trump era Industry's congressional allies defeated nearly all PFAS legislation while the Trump EPA killed, watered down or slowalked new rules
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/26/us-chemical-compan ies-lo bbying-donation-defeated-regulation
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 5:54 PM To: mailman-users@mailman3.org Subject: [MM3-users] Re: user mail not accepted
On 4/26/21 5:41 PM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote:
No. there was no response received by the user a la "results of your email commands" message. Simply the original email sent to the list.
I would still like to see the complete raw message as received by the user. That's the only thing that can tell me how it got to that user and provide clues as to why it didn't go to the other list members.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users writes:
My apologies. I did not confirm that what I did already sent you was the message received by the user. The mailing list address is ssan@lists.naturalintelligence.us and it seems as though this became an alias for this single user christian@sewagesludgeactionnetwork.com .
Not exactly. What happened is this:
% host lists.naturalintelligence.us lists.naturalintelligence.us has address 45.33.28.111 lists.naturalintelligence.us mail is handled by 10 box.ecovillage.cc. % host box.ecovillage.cc. box.ecovillage.cc has address 45.79.28.18 box.ecovillage.cc mail is handled by 10 box.ecovillage.cc.
'lists' and 'box' are different systems, it appears, because they have different IP addresses (45.33.28.111 vs. 45.79.28.18). Because of the MX record described by "lists.naturalintelligence.us mail is handled by 10 box.ecovillage.cc.", the mail sent to the list at 'lists' is going to 'box', not 'lists'. I guess that Mailman is installed on 'lists', not 'box', so Mailman never sees the post. My guess is that what you want to do is to change the MX for 'lists' to itself in the DNS, and you probably also need to do something about the webserver if you want 'lists' to offer Mailman services, since currently it presents the same page as 'naturalintelligence.us' which presents the same page as 'www.communityseekers.org'.
Why that message is eventually delivered to 'christian' at ssan, I don't know, but this appears to have nothing to do with Mailman itself. We would need to see the configuration for the MTA (appears to be Postfix) on 'box' to figure this out.
There seems to be a whole complex of domains involved here. We're happy to help you with Mailman even if that involves the DNS, MTA, and webserver configurations for Mailman services, but fixing up the DNS, mail service, and webserver configurations for a hosting service is really above our pay grade. You may want to hire a consultant for this, because the configuration seems suboptimal to me, but I don't know what you're trying to do.
Regards, Steve
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Stephen J. Turnbull