Search results for "Postorius" - Mailman-users

Re: Issue with Held Messages

by Jean-Luc Wasmer

On 2016-08-19 17:58, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 08/17/2016 09:17 PM, Jean-Luc Wasmer wrote: >> >> No matter what action I set for member posts (Hold for moderator, >> Reject) they are always delivered. > > > I don't know why this would be. Perhaps the member's moderation is set > to Accept immediately - you can see this on ther member's options page > in Postorius when logged in as a list owner. Apart from "Mode of Delivery" that is set to "Regular" for the user, none of the following attributes are set: Mail Delivery Receive own posts to the list Receive acknowledgement mails Conceal address from the subscriber list Avoid duplicate copies of messages > When the message is delivered, what are the X-Mailman-Rule-Hits: and > X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: headers? > There is no X-Mailman-Rule-Hits header. X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: approved; emergency; loop; member-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header; nonmember-moderation By the way, I didn't mention before but in Settings | Message Acceptance, the "Acceptable aliases:" box contains "[]". When I try to Save changes after modifying something, I gut "An error occured: []" in the yellow banner (instead of "The settings have been updated."). >> When I tried from a non-member email address, the message got held but >> when I try to see it I get a Server Error (500) page. The log files >> shows: >> >> ERROR 2016-08-18 01:04:30,231 base 21026 34722993152 Internal Server >> Error: /mailman3/lists/test.mydomain.com/held_messages >> Traceback (most recent call last): > ... >> File >> "/usr/local/mailman/mailman-bundler/eggs/mailmanclient-1.0.1-py2.7.egg/mailmanclient/_client.py", >> line 443, in held >> moderation_reasons=entry['moderation_reasons'], >> KeyError: u'moderation_reasons' > > > This is apparently <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient/issues/10> > fixed by <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient/merge_requests/16> Any ETA when this will be pushed to "mailman-bundler"? Cheers, Jena-Luc

9 years, 5 months

Re: Messages not going to held queue

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Mail Person writes: > I have it set I guess by "it" you mean the user's moderation status, but there are *many* variables that affect whether mail is delivered or not. These include emergency moderation, spam filtering, and HTML handling (and there are probably others I don't remember off the top of my head), as well as individual variables such as not_metoo and the moderation status. All I can rule out is emergency_moderation, because that would prevent your test mail from being delivered when the test user is set to allow. > the user did not get a moderation email, myself as the moderator did > not get a notification, and Postorius did not show them in the held > messages queue. When you set the test user to accept, did you set it to "accept" or to "default processing"? Setting it to "accept" bypasses almost all of the acceptance checks. Usually "default processing" is what you want. > As far as logs, in var/log/mailman3 I do not see any logs other > than mailman.log, plugins.log and smtp.log. In the SMTP log I can > see that the message is getting to mailman: Does mailman.log show any errors? > This leads me to believe the message is being discarded or for some > reason not getting to the moderation queue. Sure, but Mailman doesn't do that for no reason. The only thing I can think of offhand that might happen in a mostly default configuration is that you're using an MUA that creates a multipart message where the plain part is empty and the actual message is HTML (yes, I've seen that in the wild). In some configurations that would cause the HTML part to be deleted, then the message could be recognized as empty and discarded. I haven't analyzed the code thoroughly but I don't recall a log message on that execution path so it might fit your case.

3 years, 4 months

Re: disabling social login

by Dmitry Makovey

On 11/06/2017 10:59 AM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > On Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Simon Hanna wrote: >> On 11/06/2017 07:22 PM, Dmitry Makovey wrote: >>> Hi, I'm trying to disable social login and running into troubles >>> stepping on it's remnants all over the place. What's the proper sequence >>> for disabling social login in MM3 install? >> comment out 'allauth.socialaccount' and all social providers in the >> INSTALLED_APPS in your settings.py > > This apparently doesn't work, Hyperkitty apparently depends on this to > do some stuff. I haven't dug up in there, but the migrations would break > if we remove this from INSTALLED_APPS. > > Instead, please let the 'allauth.socialaccount' be there, along with > 'allauth.account' and 'allauth' and everything else related to allauth > should be removed. > > It looks something like this: > > ```` > INSTALLED_APPS = ( > 'hyperkitty', > 'postorius', > 'django_mailman3', > # Uncomment the next line to enable the admin: > 'django.contrib.admin', > # Uncomment the next line to enable admin documentation: > # 'django.contrib.admindocs', > 'django.contrib.auth', > 'django.contrib.contenttypes', > 'django.contrib.sessions', > 'django.contrib.sites', > 'django.contrib.messages', > 'django.contrib.staticfiles', > 'rest_framework', > 'django_gravatar', > 'paintstore', > 'compressor', > 'haystack', > 'django_extensions', > 'django_q', > 'allauth', > 'allauth.account', > 'allauth.socialaccount', > ) > > ``` > > I tested this works, see [1]. thanks! that worked indeed. > > > [1]: https://lists.araj.me/postorius/lists/ >> They shouldn't be enabled by default in the first place I guess, since >> pretty much all of them require further setup in order to work >> properly... >> >> How are you running MM3? >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailman-users mailing list >> mailman-users(a)mailman3.org >> https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > > -- Sr System and DevOps Engineer SoM IRT

8 years, 2 months

Re: Help with mailman user and mailman Web users

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/15/22 05:57, Sherin wrote: > > I have installed mailman3 server and configured MailmanWeb ( > hyperkity + Postorious ) . The service and everything works fine, but I > am little bit confuses with the user management in mailman3, > > 1) I created an owner user for a mailing list using the mailmanclient > api tools, # from mailmanclient.client import Client > 2) I can't login to the Mailmanweb with this user There are Mailman users and Django users. These are distinct. Creating a Mailman user does not automatically create a Django user and vice versa. In order to log in to the web UI, one must be a Django user, so this user has to go to the web UI and Sign Up. > For further investigation shows the mailman have its own database and > the web frontend have its own database too. > So my question is how to configure the webfrontend ( hyperkit+ > postorious ) to use the accounts logins created from the mailmanclient > api from the mailman core database. You can't. Well, I suppose you could modify the HyperKitty sync_mailman job or create another Django job to create Django users for Mailman users who aren't currently Django users, but short of that, there's no config for it. > Or is there a way to use only one user management system ? No. Mailman core and the web UI are separate applications by design in order to enable Mailman core to operate with any appropriate web UI. We provide Postorius and HyperKitty as web UIs for management and archiving and they are based on Django which has its own user management. It was our hope that other, perhaps more light weight, web UIs would be developed and available, but aside from EMWD's proprietary Harmony/Empathy PHP applications, we are not aware of any. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

Re: Mailman3 without Hyperkitty in docker

by Abhilash Raj

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, at 1:09 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > Thank you very much Abhilash! > > Could you set up 'latest' tag in postotius repo <https://hub.docker.com/r/maxking/postorius/tags> please - as it exists for core/web? > I'd like to have consistent approach across the images... Done, triggered a build on Dockerhub. docker.io/maxking/postorius:latest This should be available when the build is done. > > Also it would be really great to extend image labelling used for *quay.io/maxking/mailman-*:rolling* images to Docker Hub ones... Version identification is quite hard for Docker... rolling tags should be available on DockerHub too. They are replicated on both registries. > > With my best regards, > Danil > > сб, 2 мар. 2019 г. в 03:19, Abhilash Raj <maxking(a)asynchronous.in>: >> __ >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, at 10:18 PM, Danil Smirnov wrote: >>> Hi Abhilash, >>> >>> Thank you very much - the previous error is fixed now. >>> >>> But I have another one now, which causes the same 500 Server Error: >>> >>> bash-4.3# cat /opt/mailman-web-data/logs/uwsgi-error.log >>> *** Starting uWSGI 2.0.18 (64bit) on [Fri Mar 1 05:42:09 2019] *** >>> compiled with version: 6.3.0 on 01 March 2019 01:52:42 >>> os: Linux-3.10.0-693.11.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 23:52:40 UTC 2017 >>> nodename: mailman-web >>> machine: x86_64 >>> clock source: unix >>> detected number of CPU cores: 2 >>> current working directory: /opt/mailman-web >>> detected binary path: /usr/local/bin/uwsgi >>> !!! no internal routing support, rebuild with pcre support !!! >>> setgid() to 101 >>> setuid() to 100 >>> chdir() to /opt/mailman-web >>> your memory page size is 4096 bytes >>> detected max file descriptor number: 1048576 >>> building mime-types dictionary from file /etc/mime.types...1168 entry found >>> lock engine: pthread robust mutexes >>> thunder lock: disabled (you can enable it with --thunder-lock) >>> uwsgi socket 0 bound to TCP address 0.0.0.0:8080 fd 8 >>> uwsgi socket 1 bound to TCP address 0.0.0.0:8000 fd 9 >>> Python version: 3.6.8 (default, Jan 30 2019, 23:58:16) [GCC 6.3.0] >>> Python main interpreter initialized at 0x55a2df7f57e0 >>> python threads support enabled >>> your server socket listen backlog is limited to 100 connections >>> your mercy for graceful operations on workers is 60 seconds >>> mapped 166752 bytes (162 KB) for 2 cores >>> *** Operational MODE: threaded *** >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/django/utils/module_loading.py", line 20, in import_string >>> return getattr(module, class_name) >>> AttributeError: module 'django.contrib.auth.middleware' has no attribute 'SessionAuthenticationMiddleware' >>> >>> The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception: >>> >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "wsgi.py", line 38, in <module> >>> application = get_wsgi_application() >>> File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/django/core/wsgi.py", line 13, in get_wsgi_application >>> return WSGIHandler() >>> File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/django/core/handlers/wsgi.py", line 136, in __init__ >>> self.load_middleware() >>> File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 34, in load_middleware >>> middleware = import_string(middleware_path) >>> File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/django/utils/module_loading.py", line 24, in import_string >>> ) from err >>> ImportError: Module "django.contrib.auth.middleware" does not define a "SessionAuthenticationMiddleware" attribute/class >>> unable to load app 0 (mountpoint='') (callable not found or import error) >>> *** no app loaded. going in full dynamic mode *** >>> *** uWSGI is running in multiple interpreter mode *** >>> spawned uWSGI master process (pid: 1) >>> spawned uWSGI worker 1 (pid: 37, cores: 2) >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> --- no python application found, check your startup logs for errors --- >>> >>> As per my investigation, this error possibly caused by Django upgrade: >>> >>> *The SessionAuthenticationMiddleware class is removed. It provided no functionality since session authentication is unconditionally enabled in Django 1.10.* >>> >>> See https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.0/releases/2.0/ >>> >>> After I've removed the line >>> https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman/blob/master/postorius/mailman-web… >>> from settings.py, the container is finally working. >>> >>> I've placed PR in github: >>> https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman/pull/314 >> >> Thank you for your contributions! >> >> I have merged your pull request and it should now be out (hopefully!). >> >>> >>> Thank you for your help. >>> >>> Danil >>> >>> >>> пт, 1 мар. 2019 г. в 04:33, Abhilash Raj <maxking(a)asynchronous.in>: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, at 5:19 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote: >>>> > On February 27, 2019 11:53:34 PM PST, Danil Smirnov <danil(a)smirnov.la> wrote: >>>> > >Hi Mark, >>>> > > >>>> > >Actually all this stuff happens inside the container after it's started >>>> > >and >>>> > >initialized without errors. I didn't amend the image anyhow. >>>> > > >>>> > >Also I have the configuration based on docker-compose.yaml provided in >>>> > >the >>>> > >repository which works just fine for mailman-web image. >>>> > > >>>> > >The very same config with postorius image (+ UWSGI_STATIC_MAP param) >>>> > >fails >>>> > >with 500 error... >>>> > > >>>> > >Now answering your questions: >>>> > > >>>> > >ср, 27 февр. 2019 г., 22:56 Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net>: >>>> > > >>>> > >> do you have django-q in INSTALLED_APPS in your Django settings and >>>> > >what >>>> > >> is set for Q_CLUSTER? >>>> > >> >>>> > > >>>> > >I've checked settings.py inside the container and I haven't found any >>>> > >of >>>> > >the mentioned configurations there. >>>> > > >>>> > >Does the manage.py that's being run here point to the right >>>> > >settings.py? >>>> > >> >>>> > > >>>> > >No clue. >>>> > > >>>> > >Also I wonder why we have some Hyperkitty-related cronjobs in non-HK >>>> > >configured image? >>>> > > >>>> > >https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman/blob/master/postorius/mailman-web… >>>> > >>>> > Because I am a dum dum ;-) >>>> > >>>> > Will work on removing those crons and stuff. Would be nice if you >>>> > opened an issue on Github so that I don't forget. >>>> >>>> Should now be fixed in the latest image. >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >Danil >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >> -- >>>> > >> Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, >>>> > >> San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. >>>> > >Dylan >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org >>>> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org >>>> > >> https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >>>> > >> >>>> > >_______________________________________________ >>>> > >Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org >>>> > >To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org >>>> > >https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> thanks, >>>> Abhilash Raj (maxking) >> >> -- >> thanks, >> Abhilash Raj (maxking) >> >> -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

6 years, 10 months

Re: No styling for web apps?

by Morris Jones

On 11/26/20 10:09 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/26/20 8:44 PM, Morris Jones wrote: >> I have most of a new mailman suite server built and working ... >> >> collectstatic gathered a good array of static files (uncompressed so far) >> >> nginx appears to be serving them successfully >> >> The Firefox developer tools show css and js files all being delivered >> >> But none of the postorius or hyperkitty pages exhibit any styling at >> all, only bare HTML elements. >> >> The Firefox inspector will show the available styles being requested and >> delivered (style.css, bootstrap, jquery, all the things). >> >> But if I use the inspector to look at the page, nothing has any CSS >> properties. >> >> I know I'm missing something simple. > > Try running collectstatic and, if you use it, compress again. These have > to be run following various kinds of changes. > Appreciated, but to no avail: (venv) mailman@mail:~/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project$ python manage.py collectstatic You have requested to collect static files at the destination location as specified in your settings: /opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project/static This will overwrite existing files! Are you sure you want to do this? Type 'yes' to continue, or 'no' to cancel: yes 0 static files copied to '/opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project/static', 399 unmodified. (venv) mailman@mail:~/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project$ python manage.py compress CommandError: Compressor is disabled. Set the COMPRESS_ENABLED setting or use --force to override. And then https://mailman.whiteoaks.com I'll spend time in the Firefox developer tools to see if I can figure out what's missing. A DuckDuckGo search suggested it could be a character encoding issue. The style sheets all come up reporting "0 rules" in the developer tools. I haven't tried any other browsers either. Best regards, Mojo -- Morris Jones, Monrovia, CA BridgeMojo <http://bridgemojo.com> Old Town Sidewalk Astronomers <http://otastro.org> Mojo's Blog <http://mojo.whiteoaks.com>

5 years, 1 month

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM3 startup issues

by hansen＠rc.org

Mark Sapiro wrote: > Restoring original Subject:, and doesn't this thread belong on > mailman-users(a)msailman3.org - CCing there. Sorry about both, Mark. I'm now here. Didn't know this one existed and was told to use the other list server. > > On 1/4/20 5:47 PM, Allan Hansen wrote: > > > > > a. The server was set up with the wrong domain > > name (our fault), so I had to add the ‘correct’ one. I had seen the command ‘Add Domain’ > > in > > the UI and thought that would do it, but Brian kindly sent me a list of additional > > instructions, which we then implemented. That made it possible to create a list in the new > > domain, subscribe people and post messages. However, messages are not archived. What extra > > step is needed to enable archiving? > > What are the setytings in Postorius -> Settings -> Archiving? > > Archive policy: Private archives > > Archive archivers: hyperkitty, prototype > Are the messages in Mailman's var/archives/prototype/LIST@DOMAIN/new > directory? Yes! I found them. But the message files end with the name of the old host, not the new host name under the new domain. > Are there messages in Mailman's var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ directory? There are 5 .pck files there dated 1/5/2002. > What's the setting for base_url in mailman-hyperkitty.cfg? It's base_url: https://<OLDHOSTNAME>/archives I suppose it should be changed to base_url: https://<NEWHOSTNAME>/archives But: What if we decided to have more than one domain, as the UI indicates is kosher? > Are there any errors in var/logs/mailman.log? Yep. Lots. They all are of this nature: Exception in "hyperkitty" archiver Traceback: ... File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/connection.py", line 430, in _match_hostname match_hostname(cert, asserted_hostname) File "/usr/lib/python3.7/ssl.py", line 327, in match_hostname % (hostname, dnsnames[0])) ssl.SSLCertVerificationError: ("hostname 'OLDHOSTNAME' doesn't match 'NEWHOSTNAME'",) > > b. When I go to the server using the new domain (both > > before and after logging in), I see not just the lists I created in the new domain, but > > the lists created in the old domain. These lists of lists are domain specific and should > > not be listed together. That’s just IMHO, but not serious, as I will soon get rid of > > anything in the old domain. So feel free to ignore this one if this is intended, which I > > could see might be the case. > Set > FILTER_VHOST = True > in settings_local.py > > Yes, Brian told me to do the same (well, settings.py). > > This is the what I wrote back: > > hansen@rccrmail:/opt/mailman/mm$ sudo vi settings.py > > Edited the setting to: > > # Only display mailing-lists from the same virtual host as the webserver > > FILTER_VHOST = True > You shouldn't edit settings.py. You should override the setting by > putting it in settings_local.py. Silly. I should have remembered that from back in the days. But if the local file is overriding, it should have worked, I'd think. > > Then Brian told me to restart qcluster: > > hansen@rccrmail:/opt/mailman/mm$ sudo systemctl restart qcluster > qcluster is not what you need to restart. You need to restart whatever > is supporting the wsgi interface to Django. This may be uwsgi or > gunicorn or ??. Whatever it is, that's what needs to be restarted. Beats me, Mark. Brian, do you know? > > I then logged in, but the same lists are showing. It > > either takes the system a long time to reset or it has ignored the > > setting. > > Just tried it again, and the lists are all showing. Do I need to manually recompile the > > file? > > > > c. I then > > moved on to the templates and added a template for the message text to send to new > > subscribers. That resulted in the following error message when I went in as moderator to > > approve of a new subscription: > > Something went wrong > > Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core. > > Postorius is unable to access core's REST API. Is Mailman running? > > Well, I was able to post to the lists, so I assume it is. Listing at processes, I > > see a bunch of postgres, python3, nginx, django-adminp but > > nothing explicitly with a ‘mailman’ string. > If you do ps ax|grep runner=, what do you see? If you don't see at > least three processes with --runner=rest:0:1, stop Mailman and start > Mailman. Yep. I did not get the whole string before. With your options I see three of these rest:0:1 processes. So I guess the REST stuff is running anyway. > If so, what's > in /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/mailmansuite.log or whatever it's > called - defined as filename in the file handler in the LOGGING > definition in settings(_local).py. > hansen@rccrmail:/opt/mailman/mm/logs$ tail -f mailmansuite.log > return Site.objects.get_current(request) > File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/django/contrib/sites/models.py", > line 60, in get_current > return self._get_site_by_request(request) > File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/django/contrib/sites/models.py", > line 45, in _get_site_by_request > SITE_CACHE[domain] = self.get(domain__iexact=domain) > File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/django/db/models/manager.py", > line 82, in manager_method > return getattr(self.get_queryset(), name)(*args, **kwargs) > File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/django/db/models/query.py", line > 408, in get > self.model._meta.object_name > django.contrib.sites.models.Site.DoesNotExist: Site matching query does not exist. > This is because of the domain change. In settings(_local).py you have a > setting for SITE_ID. Possibly, setting that in settings_local.py to a > value one greater that the current setting will do. Trying setting it to 1 (it was 0 before). > To be certain of the > correct value, you need to look at the django_site table in mailman's > database. That table has 3 columns, id, domain and name. The id for the > row of your domain is what needs to be set as SITE_ID. You lost me here. No idea how to access the Mailman database. Brian, do you know? > > [ABH] At this point I click to accept a subsription > > request: > > ERROR 2020-01-06 07:32:41,439 699 postorius.middleware Mailman REST API not available > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line > > 672, in urlopen > > chunked=chunked, > > File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line > > 421, in _make_request > > six.raise_from(e, None) > > File "<string>", line 3, in raise_from > > File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line > > 416, in _make_request > > httplib_response = conn.getresponse() > > File "/usr/lib/python3.7/http/client.py", line 1321, in getresponse > > response.begin() > > File "/usr/lib/python3.7/http/client.py", line 296, in begin > > version, status, reason = self._read_status() > > File "/usr/lib/python3.7/http/client.py", line 265, in _read_status > > raise RemoteDisconnected("Remote end closed connection without" > > http.client.RemoteDisconnected: Remote end closed connection without response > > So yes, the REST API is not there. How can I get it going? > Stop Mailman and then start it. No idea here, either. I looked online and found this: $ from mailman.commands.cli_control import Stop But it complained: from: too many arguments Must have found an out-of-date page. :-) Yours, Allan

6 years

Re: Custom Archiver

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/1/23 16:33, Peter Knowles wrote: > Mark, > > The whole reason I'm developing my own "frontend" for both "list management" and "archive" access is because Python isn't really the language I speak... I'm a PHP guy, and so I'm working to build with the language I know and love, while utilizing Mailman for what it does best... In addition to implementing the frontend the way I want it (expose/hide feature that are useful/unuseful to our users), I want to fully customize the visual appearance to represent the SaaS offering properly. This is exactly the reason why Mailman core was decoupled from archiving and the web UI. HyperKitty and Postorius were developed because we knew that almost no one would use Mailman core without archiving and a web management UI, but we always hoped that others might develop and contribute other web based archiving and management interfaces. Brian Carpenter of EMWD who tragically died of COVID did exactly that with his Affinity and Empathy PHP applications that interface with Mailman core via the REST API. EMWD hosts lists that use those interfaces, and had Brian not died, some version of those might be open sourced, but his initial thrust was to keep them proprietary for his business reasons. There is an early description of Brian's concept for Affinity at https://gitlab.com/mailman/affinity. > *** we're not try to hide that Mailman is in the equation, just how the overall interface is visually represented *** > > That all being said, on a slight segway... Aside from using the REST API, is it practical or possible to manipulate the database directly? That is, in doing so would it just work or are there extra moving parts when an API request is issued? It probably is possible, but I would definitely discourage it. The REST API should provide everything you need without your having to reimplement everything it does. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

Re: Importing config and archives only partially succeeded?

by Eric Broens

I just notice in the webserver logfile, the same request for the same mlist, msgid and key several times per second for about 3 hours now: "GET /archives/api/mailman/urls?mlist=....&msgid=...&key=... HTTP/1.1" 200 105 "-" "python-requests/2.25.0" The request seems to originate from the server where the mailman suite is installed Best Regards,Eric On Sunday, December 13, 2020, 01:54:54 AM GMT+1, Eric Broens via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: The settings - Archiving, are not different from the ones that do show the messages:"Private Archives" selected, and Active archivers "hyperkitty" also selected. I was trying to find out how the hyperkitty page gets the mails from the database, and if I can start from there.Or maybe something is not completely correct in the database tables. Best Regards,Eric On Sunday, December 13, 2020, 01:27:53 AM GMT+1, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: On 12/12/20 3:56 PM, Eric Broens via Mailman-users wrote: > After everything was imported, and I noticed that the mails were not shown in the archives for half of the mailinglists, I ran "manage.py update_index" to index the mails for all mailinglists.This command is still running for hours.Since it builds the search index, I don't expect that this would make the mails available on the webpage. I agree, that won't make the mails available on the webpage. If you're using the default Whoosh search engine, "hours" is not unexpected. Elasticsearch is much faster and Xapian faster still. What do you see in Postorius - Settings -> Archiving for the lists whose messages don't show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan _______________________________________________ Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ _______________________________________________ Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/

5 years, 1 month

Re: Unable to download attachments from HyperKitty

by Abhilash Raj

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019, at 7:32 AM, Derek Lambert wrote: > I’m having an issue downloading attachments from HyperKitty. The > download begins as expected, but never progresses. Eventually it times > out. I imagine the browser is expecting data matching the > content-length header, but never receives it. > > Inspecting the contents of the download file reveals (address varies): > > <memory at 0x7f148fcb9588> > > I’ve been able to work around the issue with the following patch: > > --- > env/lib/python3.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/models/email.py.orig 2018-12-06 21:38:39.544448735 +0000 > +++ > env/lib/python3.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/models/email.py 2018-12-06 > 23:01:39.923239421 +0000 > @@ -309,7 +309,7 @@ > def get_content(self): > folder = self._get_folder() > if folder is None: > - return self.content > + return self.content.tobytes() > filepath = os.path.join(folder, str(self.counter)) > if not os.path.exists(filepath): > logger.error("Could not find local attachment %s for email > %s", > > I haven't been able to replicate the issue with the HyperKitty tests, > presumably the issue is somewhere in the Django <-> uwsgi <-> nginx > stack. > > My configs are based on mailman-suite and maxking/docker-mailman. I've > tried stripping out all the performance tweaks from my uwsgi and nginx > configs, but no change. > > Versions: > HyperKitty 1.2.1 > Postorius 1.2.3 > Django 2.1.7 > nginx 1.14.1 > uwsgi 2.0.18 > Python 3.7.2 > > Has anyone come across this before? I am not sure if this is exactly a bug in Hyperkitty. I am not able to replicate this with a extremely complicated test: Downloading a signature file in an email on lists.mailman3.org. It runs on gunicorn + Django 2.1.5 ( I think) and latest Git heads of respective projects. Is this a recurring or one time thing that you observed? It would be great if we could you could capture the HTTP Headers with and without the patch you sent above to help debug why does `.tobytes()` lets you download. -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

6 years, 11 months

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