Search results for "Postorius" - Mailman-users

Re: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Service Unavailable

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/25/21 9:38 AM, dancab(a)caltech.edu wrote: > Mark, > > Is it only this list that has an issue? > > Yes, this is the only list that is having the issue. > > Can you visit other pages for this list? > > Yes, I'm able to view the members list, list settings, templates, etc. > > I've restarted the service and tried to access the held messages for the list once again. Here's what is in the mailman log. > > > ERROR 2021-02-25 17:28:14,197 393 postorius Mailman REST API not available > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 706, in urlopen > chunked=chunked, > File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 445, in _make_request > six.raise_from(e, None) > File "<string>", line 3, in raise_from > File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 440, in _make_request > httplib_response = conn.getresponse() > File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/http/client.py", line 1346, in getresponse > response.begin() > File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/http/client.py", line 307, in begin > version, status, reason = self._read_status() > File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/http/client.py", line 276, in _read_status > raise RemoteDisconnected("Remote end closed connection without" > http.client.RemoteDisconnected: Remote end closed connection without response This is from Django's log. What's in Mailman core's mailman.log? Since everything else is accessing the REST API with no problem, I think core must be stuck on something and timing out. Is there a time delay between trying to get the held messages view and the "Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core." response? Also is there a non-zero count in the badge on the Held messages tab? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

Re: Internal Server Errors in mailmanweb.log

by Washington Odhiambo

On Sat, Jan 24, 2026 at 12:11 AM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 1/22/26 00:53, Washington Odhiambo via Mailman-users wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 25, 2025 at 10:46 AM Washington Odhiambo <odhiambo(a)gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > For some reason, my mailmanweb (I am using Gunicorn) has been misbehaving > > lately. > > The last change I ever made to my MM3 installation is when I applied the > > patch mentioned in this thread. > > The misbehavior manifests in the Postrorius web UI becoming inaccessible, > > much as mailmanweb is running. > > It looks like all the logged errors result from an attempt to export a > thread from HyperKitty. Is it this export that precipitates the issue? I am not trying to export any threads at all. I haven't tried doing it for whatever reason. So the fact that there is even an attempt at exporting it is strange. I first encountered this issue when I got notified of some held messages that required moderation. Postorius failed to load. And on checking the status of mailmaweb, I realized it's running, but using so much RAM. I restarted it and I was able to access Postorius. And now this has become an almost daily routine - restarting it. > I.e, can you access Postorius first thing after a clean start of > mailman web? Yes. What I have realized though is that after restarting it, with time its memory usage begins to increase significantly fast. Within no time, it's already using 1GB+ RAM. As I write this email, this is what I just seen on checking it: ``` root@eu:/home/wash# systemctl status mailmanweb ● mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Fri 2026-01-23 16:43:28 EAT; 20h ago Main PID: 1758633 (gunicorn) Tasks: 3 (limit: 28775) Memory: 2.0G CPU: 8h 4min 40.949s CGroup: /system.slice/mailmanweb.service ├─1758633 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application ├─2665379 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application └─2665624 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application Jan 24 13:10:46 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2663345]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:11:19 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2663765]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:11:36 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2663948]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:11:52 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2664060]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:12:27 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2664535]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:12:40 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2664626]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:12:59 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2664813]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:13:33 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2665220]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:13:51 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2665379]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:14:05 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2665624]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 root@eu:/home/wash# ``` > If so, is it only when you try to export a thread from HyperKitty that the > issues start? > I am not trying to export any threads at all. Check this: root@eu:/home/wash# systemctl restart mailmanweb root@eu:/home/wash# systemctl status mailmanweb ● mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Sat 2026-01-24 13:33:42 EAT; 6s ago Main PID: 2679426 (gunicorn) Tasks: 3 (limit: 28775) Memory: 158.0M CPU: 3.358s CGroup: /system.slice/mailmanweb.service ├─2679426 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application ├─2679427 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application └─2679429 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application Jan 24 13:33:42 eu.kictanet.or.ke systemd[1]: Started mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI. Jan 24 13:33:43 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2679427]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:33:43 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2679429]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 root@eu:/home/wash# systemctl status mailmanweb ● mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Sat 2026-01-24 13:33:42 EAT; 12s ago Main PID: 2679426 (gunicorn) Tasks: 3 (limit: 28775) Memory: 162.3M CPU: 6.971s CGroup: /system.slice/mailmanweb.service ├─2679426 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application ├─2679427 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application └─2679429 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application Jan 24 13:33:42 eu.kictanet.or.ke systemd[1]: Started mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI. Jan 24 13:33:43 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2679427]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:33:43 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2679429]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 root@eu:/home/wash# systemctl status mailmanweb ● mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Sat 2026-01-24 13:33:42 EAT; 15s ago Main PID: 2679426 (gunicorn) Tasks: 3 (limit: 28775) Memory: 162.4M CPU: 8.193s CGroup: /system.slice/mailmanweb.service ├─2679426 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application ├─2679427 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application └─2679429 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application Jan 24 13:33:42 eu.kictanet.or.ke systemd[1]: Started mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI. Jan 24 13:33:43 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2679427]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:33:43 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2679429]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 root@eu:/home/wash# systemctl status mailmanweb ● mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Sat 2026-01-24 13:33:42 EAT; 18s ago Main PID: 2679426 (gunicorn) Tasks: 3 (limit: 28775) Memory: 210.5M CPU: 8.629s CGroup: /system.slice/mailmanweb.service ├─2679426 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application ├─2679427 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application └─2679429 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application Jan 24 13:33:42 eu.kictanet.or.ke systemd[1]: Started mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI. Jan 24 13:33:43 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2679427]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:33:43 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2679429]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 root@eu:/home/wash# systemctl status mailmanweb ● mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Sat 2026-01-24 13:33:42 EAT; 38s ago Main PID: 2679426 (gunicorn) Tasks: 3 (limit: 28775) Memory: 1.3G CPU: 24.429s CGroup: /system.slice/mailmanweb.service ├─2679426 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application ├─2679427 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application └─2679429 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf.py mailman_web.wsgi:application Jan 24 13:33:42 eu.kictanet.or.ke systemd[1]: Started mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI. Jan 24 13:33:43 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2679427]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 Jan 24 13:33:43 eu.kictanet.or.ke gunicorn[2679429]: Updated PYTHONPATH to : /etc/mailman3/:/etc/mailman3 root@eu:/home/wash# -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

1 month, 2 weeks

Re: Speed up importing mailman2 lists

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Mark Sapiro writes: > On 2/19/25 06:08, t.maintz(a)fz-juelich.de wrote: > > We are currently planning to migrate from mailman2 to mailman3 as > > a container, have around 1500 lists and would like to complete > > the migration ideally in a few hours. I've done two massive migrations in the last year. In the first (~20k lists), the lists were down for maybe two hours, but it took 22 hours for HyperKitty to populate, mostly in Xapian indexing we realized in post-mortem analysis. In the second (~1k lists), no perceptible downtime because they have their own bespoke archiver that has a list-manager-agnostic API. The trick to zero delivery downtime is that you can configure your MTA to route to Mailman 3 if the list exists there, if not route to Mailman 2 if the list exists there, and if not continue to any lower priority routes. It worked as designed (mops sweat off brow ;-). We did take Postorius and the Mailman 2 management CGIs and email command addresses offline for the duration (3 hours in the first case, 30 mminutes in the second). This is sraightforward if Mailman 2 and Mailman 3 are running on the same host. Life is more complex if you're spinning up Mailman 3 in a separate node but it should be possible. I think if you're migrating to HyperKitty you can speed up the migration by shutting off indexing, and doing that later at the cost of confusing people who expect the lists to be indexed. I'm not sure if it's possible to migrate the archives concurrently with accepting new posts, or maybe to migrate archives in advance and backfill any posts that arrive during the list migration. And there's no reason why you can't leave the legacy Mailman 2 archives up for browsing as a backup for as long as needed. Steve

1 year

Re: Change base mailman URL path

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/6/23 20:07, chad.hays86(a)gmail.com wrote: > Hi, I recently completed the a Mailman3 install using these[1] instructions. I'm able to access the web interface, the Django admin app, etc off the root domain URL. For example: https://mydomain.org/mailman3, https://mydomain.org/admin, https://mydomain.org/archives > > What's the most straightforward way to put all of these URL paths behind a different context? For example: https://mydomain.org/lists/mailman3, https://mydomain.org/lists/admin, https://mydomain.org/lists/archives > > I'm running Apache2 as my web server and am using mod_proxy to proxy requests to uwsgi. There are two pieces to this: For the Django side, copy /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.x/site-packages/mailman_web/urls.py to /etc/mailman3/urls.py where python3.x is the python version in your venv and edit that file as in ``` 30,34c30,34 < path('mailman3/', include('postorius.urls')), < path('archives/', include('hyperkitty.urls')), < path('', include('django_mailman3.urls')), < path('accounts/', include('allauth.urls')), < path('admin/', admin.site.urls), --- > path('lists/mailman3/', include('postorius.urls')), > path('lists/archives/', include('hyperkitty.urls')), > path('lists/', include('django_mailman3.urls')), > path('lists/accounts/', include('allauth.urls')), > path('lists/admin/', admin.site.urls), ``` and add the following to /etc/mailman3/settings.py ROOT_URLCONF = 'urls' Then for the apache side, it depends what you have for your ProxyPass directives are. If you have several like ``` ProxyPass "/mailman3" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/mailman3" ProxyPass "/archives" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/archives" ... ``` change those to ``` ProxyPass "/lists/mailman3" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/lists/mailman3" ProxyPass "/lists/archives" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/lists/archives" ``` If you have just one like ``` ProxyPass "/" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/" ``` change it to ``` ProxyPass "/lists" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/lists" ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 11 months

Re: ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'mailman_web'

by gordon＠dickens.com

This is the entire error sent via email every minute or so: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web", line 5, in <module> from mailman_web.manage import main ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'mailman_web' When I try to login to mailman then I get thse following error: Service Unavailable: /mailman3/lists/ Report at /mailman3/lists/ Service Unavailable: /mailman3/lists/ Request Method: GET Request URL: http://host2.mailhub4u.com/mailman3/lists/ Django Version: 3.0.14 Python Executable: /opt/mailman/venv/bin/uwsgi Python Version: 3.9.2 Python Path: ['.', '', '/etc/mailman3', '/usr/lib/python39.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.9', '/usr/lib/python3.9/lib-dynload', '/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages'] Server time: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 21:08:56 +0000 Installed Applications: ('hyperkitty', 'postorius', 'django_mailman3', 'django.contrib.admin', 'django.contrib.auth', 'django.contrib.contenttypes', 'django.contrib.sessions', 'django.contrib.sites', 'django.contrib.messages', 'django.contrib.staticfiles', 'rest_framework', 'django_gravatar', 'compressor', 'haystack', 'django_extensions', 'django_q', 'allauth', 'allauth.account', 'allauth.socialaccount') Installed Middleware: ('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware', 'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware', 'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware', 'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware', 'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware', 'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware', 'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware', 'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware', 'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware', 'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware') Request information: USER: gordon GET: No GET data POST: No POST data FILES: No FILES data COOKIES: csrftoken = 'BgEa4GddvSCScj8Bm9aSJz2V2vuvQin3boRLAM4ZqjL8Aq1I0l989xbv6nI2LbuS' PHPSESSID = 'a36fftlm8j0khrlciu3uut8n5a' testing = '1' sid = '8a3f6ce1fe7c07389eea7d68f5346563' sessiontest = '1' Horde = '48dflipuqm8oi32on7dadjffl8' horde_secret_key = '4jhq7cri14q2vdkvs3r6r2auqk' sessionid = 'gsrrjekrl6huw5myr37lop21cyltpmst' META: CSRF_COOKIE = 'BgEa4GddvSCScj8Bm9aSJz2V2vuvQin3boRLAM4ZqjL8Aq1I0l989xbv6nI2LbuS' HTTP_ACCEPT = 'text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/avif,image/webp,*/*;q=0.8' HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING = 'gzip, deflate, br' HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = 'en-US,en;q=0.5' HTTP_AUTHORIZATION = 'Basic cm9vdDokQ3JAYmJ5LVAzbGljYW4k' HTTP_CONNECTION = 'Keep-Alive' HTTP_COOKIE = 'csrftoken=BgEa4GddvSCScj8Bm9aSJz2V2vuvQin3boRLAM4ZqjL8Aq1I0l989xbv6nI2LbuS; PHPSESSID=a36fftlm8j0khrlciu3uut8n5a; testing=1; sid=8a3f6ce1fe7c07389eea7d68f5346563; sessiontest=1; Horde=48dflipuqm8oi32on7dadjffl8; horde_secret_key=4jhq7cri14q2vdkvs3r6r2auqk; sessionid=gsrrjekrl6huw5myr37lop21cyltpmst' HTTP_HOST = '127.0.0.1:8000' HTTP_REFERER = 'https://host2.mailhub4u.com/mailman3/lists/' HTTP_SEC_FETCH_DEST = 'document' HTTP_SEC_FETCH_MODE = 'navigate' HTTP_SEC_FETCH_SITE = 'same-origin' HTTP_SEC_FETCH_USER = '?1' HTTP_UPGRADE_INSECURE_REQUESTS = '1' HTTP_USER_AGENT = 'Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/119.0' HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR = '173.165.166.34' HTTP_X_FORWARDED_HOST = 'host2.mailhub4u.com' HTTP_X_FORWARDED_SERVER = 'host2.mailhub4u.com' PATH_INFO = '/mailman3/lists/' QUERY_STRING = '' REMOTE_ADDR = '127.0.0.1' REQUEST_METHOD = 'GET' REQUEST_URI = '/mailman3/lists/' SCRIPT_NAME = '' SERVER_NAME = 'slc.mailhub4u.com' SERVER_PORT = '8000' SERVER_PROTOCOL = 'HTTP/1.1' uwsgi.core = 0 uwsgi.node = b'slc.mailhub4u.com' uwsgi.version = b'2.0.20' wsgi.errors = <_io.TextIOWrapper name=2 mode='w' encoding='UTF-8'> wsgi.file_wrapper = '' wsgi.input = <uwsgi._Input object at 0x7f509a270810> wsgi.multiprocess = False wsgi.multithread = True wsgi.run_once = False wsgi.url_scheme = 'http' wsgi.version = '(1, 0)' Settings: Using settings module settings ABSOLUTE_URL_OVERRIDES = {} ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD = 'username_email' ACCOUNT_DEFAULT_HTTP_PROTOCOL = 'https' ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED = True ACCOUNT_EMAIL_VERIFICATION = 'mandatory' ACCOUNT_UNIQUE_EMAIL = True ADMINS = "(('Mailman Suite Admin', 'gordon(a)mailhub4u.com'),)" ALLOWED_HOSTS = ['*'] APPEND_SLASH = True AUTHENTICATION_BACKENDS = "('django.contrib.auth.backends.ModelBackend', 'allauth.account.auth_backends.AuthenticationBackend')" AUTH_PASSWORD_VALIDATORS = '********************' AUTH_USER_MODEL = 'auth.User' BASE_DIR = PosixPath('/opt/mailman/web') CACHES = {'default': {'BACKEND': 'django.core.cache.backends.locmem.LocMemCache'}} CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_ALIAS = 'default' CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_KEY_PREFIX = '********************' CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_SECONDS = 600 COMPRESSORS = {'css': 'compressor.css.CssCompressor', 'js': 'compressor.js.JsCompressor'} COMPRESS_CACHEABLE_PRECOMPILERS = '()' COMPRESS_CACHE_BACKEND = 'default' COMPRESS_CACHE_KEY_FUNCTION = '********************' COMPRESS_CLEAN_CSS_ARGUMENTS = '' COMPRESS_CLEAN_CSS_BINARY = 'cleancss' COMPRESS_CLOSURE_COMPILER_ARGUMENTS = '' COMPRESS_CLOSURE_COMPILER_BINARY = 'java -jar compiler.jar' COMPRESS_CSS_HASHING_METHOD = 'mtime' COMPRESS_DATA_URI_MAX_SIZE = 1024 COMPRESS_DEBUG_TOGGLE = None COMPRESS_ENABLED = True COMPRESS_FILTERS = {'css': ['compressor.filters.css_default.CssAbsoluteFilter', 'compressor.filters.cssmin.rCSSMinFilter'], 'js': ['compressor.filters.jsmin.rJSMinFilter']} COMPRESS_JINJA2_GET_ENVIRONMENT = <function CompressorConf.JINJA2_GET_ENVIRONMENT at 0x7f509d83d0d0> COMPRESS_MINT_DELAY = 30 COMPRESS_MTIME_DELAY = 10 COMPRESS_OFFLINE = True COMPRESS_OFFLINE_CONTEXT = {'STATIC_URL': '/static/'} COMPRESS_OFFLINE_MANIFEST = 'manifest.json' COMPRESS_OFFLINE_TIMEOUT = 31536000 COMPRESS_OUTPUT_DIR = 'CACHE' COMPRESS_PARSER = 'compressor.parser.AutoSelectParser' COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS = "(('text/x-scss', 'sassc -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'), ('text/x-sass', 'sassc -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'))" COMPRESS_REBUILD_TIMEOUT = 2592000 COMPRESS_ROOT = '/var/lib/mailman3/web/static' COMPRESS_STORAGE = 'compressor.storage.CompressorFileStorage' COMPRESS_TEMPLATE_FILTER_CONTEXT = {'STATIC_URL': '/static/'} COMPRESS_URL = '/static/' COMPRESS_URL_PLACEHOLDER = '/__compressor_url_placeholder__/' COMPRESS_VERBOSE = False COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_BINARY = 'yuglify' COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_CSS_ARGUMENTS = '--terminal' COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_JS_ARGUMENTS = '--terminal' COMPRESS_YUI_BINARY = 'java -jar yuicompressor.jar' COMPRESS_YUI_CSS_ARGUMENTS = '' COMPRESS_YUI_JS_ARGUMENTS = '' CSRF_COOKIE_AGE = 31449600 CSRF_COOKIE_DOMAIN = None CSRF_COOKIE_HTTPONLY = False CSRF_COOKIE_NAME = 'csrftoken' CSRF_COOKIE_PATH = '/' CSRF_COOKIE_SAMESITE = 'Lax' CSRF_COOKIE_SECURE = False CSRF_FAILURE_VIEW = 'django.views.csrf.csrf_failure' CSRF_HEADER_NAME = 'HTTP_X_CSRFTOKEN' CSRF_TRUSTED_ORIGINS = [] CSRF_USE_SESSIONS = False DATABASES = {'default': {'ENGINE': 'django.db.backends.mysql', 'NAME': 'mailman3web', 'USER': 'mailman', 'PASSWORD': '********************', 'HOST': 'localhost', 'PORT': '', 'OPTIONS': {'init_command': "SET sql_mode='STRICT_TRANS_TABLES'", 'charset': 'utf8mb4'}, 'ATOMIC_REQUESTS': False, 'AUTOCOMMIT': True, 'CONN_MAX_AGE': 0, 'TIME_ZONE': None, 'TEST': {'CHARSET': None, 'COLLATION': None, 'NAME': None, 'MIRROR': None}}} DATABASE_ROUTERS = [] DATA_UPLOAD_MAX_MEMORY_SIZE = 2621440 DATA_UPLOAD_MAX_NUMBER_FIELDS = 1000 DATETIME_FORMAT = 'N j, Y, P' DATETIME_INPUT_FORMATS = ['%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S', '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f', '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M', '%Y-%m-%d', '%m/%d/%Y %H:%M:%S', '%m/%d/%Y %H:%M:%S.%f', '%m/%d/%Y %H:%M', '%m/%d/%Y', '%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S', '%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S.%f', '%m/%d/%y %H:%M', '%m/%d/%y'] DATE_FORMAT = 'N j, Y' DATE_INPUT_FORMATS = ['%Y-%m-%d', '%m/%d/%Y', '%m/%d/%y', '%b %d %Y', '%b %d, %Y', '%d %b %Y', '%d %b, %Y', '%B %d %Y', '%B %d, %Y', '%d %B %Y', '%d %B, %Y'] DEBUG = False DEBUG_PROPAGATE_EXCEPTIONS = False DECIMAL_SEPARATOR = '.' DEFAULT_CHARSET = 'utf-8' DEFAULT_EXCEPTION_REPORTER_FILTER = 'django.views.debug.SafeExceptionReporterFilter' DEFAULT_FILE_STORAGE = 'django.core.files.storage.FileSystemStorage' DEFAULT_FROM_EMAIL = 'postorius(a)host2.mailhub4u.com' DEFAULT_INDEX_TABLESPACE = '' DEFAULT_TABLESPACE = '' DISALLOWED_USER_AGENTS = [] EMAILNAME = 'host2.mailhub4u.com' EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend' EMAIL_HOST = 'localhost' EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = '********************' EMAIL_HOST_USER = '' EMAIL_PORT = 25 EMAIL_SSL_CERTFILE = None EMAIL_SSL_KEYFILE = '********************' EMAIL_SUBJECT_PREFIX = '[Django] ' EMAIL_TIMEOUT = None EMAIL_USE_LOCALTIME = False EMAIL_USE_SSL = False EMAIL_USE_TLS = False FILE_CHARSET = 'utf-8' FILE_UPLOAD_DIRECTORY_PERMISSIONS = None FILE_UPLOAD_HANDLERS = ['django.core.files.uploadhandler.MemoryFileUploadHandler', 'django.core.files.uploadhandler.TemporaryFileUploadHandler'] FILE_UPLOAD_MAX_MEMORY_SIZE = 2621440 FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSIONS = 420 FILE_UPLOAD_TEMP_DIR = None FILTER_VHOST = False FIRST_DAY_OF_WEEK = 0 FIXTURE_DIRS = [] FORCE_SCRIPT_NAME = None FORMAT_MODULE_PATH = None FORM_RENDERER = 'django.forms.renderers.DjangoTemplates' HAYSTACK_CONNECTIONS = {'default': {'ENGINE': 'haystack.backends.whoosh_backend.WhooshEngine', 'PATH': 'fulltext_index'}} HYPERKITTY_ENABLE_GRAVATAR = True IGNORABLE_404_URLS = [] INSTALLED_APPS = "('hyperkitty', 'postorius', 'django_mailman3', 'django.contrib.admin', 'django.contrib.auth', 'django.contrib.contenttypes', 'django.contrib.sessions', 'django.contrib.sites', 'django.contrib.messages', 'django.contrib.staticfiles', 'rest_framework', 'django_gravatar', 'compressor', 'haystack', 'django_extensions', 'django_q', 'allauth', 'allauth.account', 'allauth.socialaccount')" INTERNAL_IPS = [] LANGUAGES = [('af', 'Afrikaans'), ('ar', 'Arabic'), ('ast', 'Asturian'), ('az', 'Azerbaijani'), ('bg', 'Bulgarian'), ('be', 'Belarusian'), ('bn', 'Bengali'), ('br', 'Breton'), ('bs', 'Bosnian'), ('ca', 'Catalan'), ('cs', 'Czech'), ('cy', 'Welsh'), ('da', 'Danish'), ('de', 'German'), ('dsb', 'Lower Sorbian'), ('el', 'Greek'), ('en', 'English'), ('en-au', 'Australian English'), ('en-gb', 'British English'), ('eo', 'Esperanto'), ('es', 'Spanish'), ('es-ar', 'Argentinian Spanish'), ('es-co', 'Colombian Spanish'), ('es-mx', 'Mexican Spanish'), ('es-ni', 'Nicaraguan Spanish'), ('es-ve', 'Venezuelan Spanish'), ('et', 'Estonian'), ('eu', 'Basque'), ('fa', 'Persian'), ('fi', 'Finnish'), ('fr', 'French'), ('fy', 'Frisian'), ('ga', 'Irish'), ('gd', 'Scottish Gaelic'), ('gl', 'Galician'), ('he', 'Hebrew'), ('hi', 'Hindi'), ('hr', 'Croatian'), ('hsb', 'Upper Sorbian'), ('hu', 'Hungarian'), ('hy', 'Armenian'), ('ia', 'Interlingua'), ('id', 'Indonesian'), ('io', 'Ido'), ('is', 'Icelandic'), ('it', 'Italian'), ('ja', 'Japanese'), ('ka', 'Georgian'), ('kab', 'Kabyle'), ('kk', 'Kazakh'), ('km', 'Khmer'), ('kn', 'Kannada'), ('ko', 'Korean'), ('lb', 'Luxembourgish'), ('lt', 'Lithuanian'), ('lv', 'Latvian'), ('mk', 'Macedonian'), ('ml', 'Malayalam'), ('mn', 'Mongolian'), ('mr', 'Marathi'), ('my', 'Burmese'), ('nb', 'Norwegian Bokmål'), ('ne', 'Nepali'), ('nl', 'Dutch'), ('nn', 'Norwegian Nynorsk'), ('os', 'Ossetic'), ('pa', 'Punjabi'), ('pl', 'Polish'), ('pt', 'Portuguese'), ('pt-br', 'Brazilian Portuguese'), ('ro', 'Romanian'), ('ru', 'Russian'), ('sk', 'Slovak'), ('sl', 'Slovenian'), ('sq', 'Albanian'), ('sr', 'Serbian'), ('sr-latn', 'Serbian Latin'), ('sv', 'Swedish'), ('sw', 'Swahili'), ('ta', 'Tamil'), ('te', 'Telugu'), ('th', 'Thai'), ('tr', 'Turkish'), ('tt', 'Tatar'), ('udm', 'Udmurt'), ('uk', 'Ukrainian'), ('ur', 'Urdu'), ('uz', 'Uzbek'), ('vi', 'Vietnamese'), ('zh-hans', 'Simplified Chinese'), ('zh-hant', 'Traditional Chinese')] LANGUAGES_BIDI = ['he', 'ar', 'fa', 'ur'] LANGUAGE_CODE = 'en-us' LANGUAGE_COOKIE_AGE = None LANGUAGE_COOKIE_DOMAIN = None LANGUAGE_COOKIE_HTTPONLY = False LANGUAGE_COOKIE_NAME = 'django_language' LANGUAGE_COOKIE_PATH = '/' LANGUAGE_COOKIE_SAMESITE = None LANGUAGE_COOKIE_SECURE = False LOCALE_PATHS = [] LOGGING = {'version': 1, 'disable_existing_loggers': False, 'filters': {'require_debug_false': {'()': 'django.utils.log.RequireDebugFalse'}}, 'handlers': {'mail_admins': {'level': 'ERROR', 'filters': ['require_debug_false'], 'class': 'django.utils.log.AdminEmailHandler'}, 'file': {'level': 'INFO', 'class': 'logging.handlers.WatchedFileHandler', 'filename': '/var/log/mailman3/web/mailman-web.log', 'formatter': 'verbose'}, 'console': {'class': 'logging.StreamHandler', 'formatter': 'simple'}}, 'loggers': {'django.request': {'handlers': ['mail_admins', 'file'], 'level': 'ERROR', 'propagate': True}, 'django': {'handlers': ['file'], 'level': 'ERROR', 'propagate': True}, 'hyperkitty': {'handlers': ['file'], 'level': 'DEBUG', 'propagate': True}, 'postorius': {'handlers': ['console', 'file'], 'level': 'INFO'}}, 'formatters': {'verbose': {'format': '%(levelname)s %(asctime)s %(process)d %(name)s %(message)s'}, 'simple': {'format': '%(levelname)s %(message)s'}}} LOGGING_CONFIG = 'logging.config.dictConfig' LOGIN_REDIRECT_URL = 'list_index' LOGIN_URL = 'account_login' LOGOUT_REDIRECT_URL = None LOGOUT_URL = 'account_logout' MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM = "('127.0.0.1', '209.95.44.128', '::1')" MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY = '********************' MAILMAN_REST_API_PASS = '********************' MAILMAN_REST_API_URL = '********************' MAILMAN_REST_API_USER = '********************' MANAGERS = [] MEDIA_ROOT = '' MEDIA_URL = '' MESSAGE_STORAGE = 'django.contrib.messages.storage.fallback.FallbackStorage' MESSAGE_TAGS = {40: 'danger'} MIDDLEWARE = "('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware', 'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware', 'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware', 'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware', 'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware', 'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware', 'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware', 'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware', 'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware', 'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware')" MIGRATION_MODULES = {} MONTH_DAY_FORMAT = 'F j' NUMBER_GROUPING = 0 PASSWORD_HASHERS = '********************' PASSWORD_RESET_TIMEOUT_DAYS = '********************' POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL = 'http://localhost/mailman3/' PREPEND_WWW = False Q_CLUSTER = {'retry': 360, 'timeout': 300, 'save_limit': 100, 'orm': 'default'} ROOT_URLCONF = 'mailman_web.urls' SECRET_KEY = '********************' SECURE_BROWSER_XSS_FILTER = False SECURE_CONTENT_TYPE_NOSNIFF = True SECURE_HSTS_INCLUDE_SUBDOMAINS = False SECURE_HSTS_PRELOAD = False SECURE_HSTS_SECONDS = 0 SECURE_PROXY_SSL_HEADER = None SECURE_REDIRECT_EXEMPT = [] SECURE_REFERRER_POLICY = None SECURE_SSL_HOST = None SECURE_SSL_REDIRECT = False SERVER_EMAIL = 'root(a)host2.mailhub4u.com' SESSION_CACHE_ALIAS = 'default' SESSION_COOKIE_AGE = 1209600 SESSION_COOKIE_DOMAIN = None SESSION_COOKIE_HTTPONLY = True SESSION_COOKIE_NAME = 'sessionid' SESSION_COOKIE_PATH = '/' SESSION_COOKIE_SAMESITE = 'Lax' SESSION_COOKIE_SECURE = False SESSION_ENGINE = 'django.contrib.sessions.backends.db' SESSION_EXPIRE_AT_BROWSER_CLOSE = False SESSION_FILE_PATH = None SESSION_SAVE_EVERY_REQUEST = False SESSION_SERIALIZER = 'django.contrib.sessions.serializers.PickleSerializer' SETTINGS_MODULE = 'settings' SHORT_DATETIME_FORMAT = 'm/d/Y P' SHORT_DATE_FORMAT = 'm/d/Y' SIGNING_BACKEND = 'django.core.signing.TimestampSigner' SILENCED_SYSTEM_CHECKS = [] SITE_ID = 1 SOCIALACCOUNT_PROVIDERS = {} STATICFILES_DIRS = '()' STATICFILES_FINDERS = "('django.contrib.staticfiles.finders.FileSystemFinder', 'django.contrib.staticfiles.finders.AppDirectoriesFinder', 'compressor.finders.CompressorFinder')" STATICFILES_STORAGE = 'django.contrib.staticfiles.storage.StaticFilesStorage' STATIC_ROOT = '/var/lib/mailman3/web/static' STATIC_URL = '/static/' TEMPLATES = [{'BACKEND': 'django.template.backends.django.DjangoTemplates', 'DIRS': [], 'APP_DIRS': True, 'OPTIONS': {'context_processors': ['django.template.context_processors.debug', 'django.template.context_processors.i18n', 'django.template.context_processors.media', 'django.template.context_processors.static', 'django.template.context_processors.tz', 'django.template.context_processors.csrf', 'django.template.context_processors.request', 'django.contrib.auth.context_processors.auth', 'django.contrib.messages.context_processors.messages', 'django_mailman3.context_processors.common', 'hyperkitty.context_processors.common', 'postorius.context_processors.postorius']}}] TEST_NON_SERIALIZED_APPS = [] TEST_RUNNER = 'django.test.runner.DiscoverRunner' THOUSAND_SEPARATOR = ',' TIME_FORMAT = 'P' TIME_INPUT_FORMATS = ['%H:%M:%S', '%H:%M:%S.%f', '%H:%M'] TIME_ZONE = 'UTC' USE_I18N = True USE_L10N = True USE_THOUSAND_SEPARATOR = False USE_TZ = True USE_X_FORWARDED_HOST = True USE_X_FORWARDED_PORT = False WSGI_APPLICATION = 'mailman_web.wsgi.application' X_FRAME_OPTIONS = 'DENY' YEAR_MONTH_FORMAT = 'F Y'

2 years, 4 months

Re: Issue with Held Messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/19/2016 10:39 PM, Jean-Luc Wasmer wrote: > On 2016-08-19 17:58, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 08/17/2016 09:17 PM, Jean-Luc Wasmer wrote: >>> >>> No matter what action I set for member posts (Hold for moderator, >>> Reject) they are always delivered. >> >> >> I don't know why this would be. Perhaps the member's moderation is set >> to Accept immediately - you can see this on ther member's options page >> in Postorius when logged in as a list owner. > > Apart from "Mode of Delivery" that is set to "Regular" for the user, > none of the following attributes are set: > > Mail Delivery > Receive own posts to the list > Receive acknowledgement mails > Conceal address from the subscriber list > Avoid duplicate copies of messages If you look at the user's options when logged in as a list owner, you should see an additional "Administration options" section below those with a "Moderation" setting. What is that set to? ... > By the way, I didn't mention before but in Settings | Message > Acceptance, the "Acceptable aliases:" box contains "[]". When I try to > Save changes after modifying something, I gut "An error occured: []" in > the yellow banner (instead of "The settings have been updated."). What happens if you clear the Acceptable aliases box before saving? ... >> This is apparently <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient/issues/10> >> fixed by <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient/merge_requests/16> > > Any ETA when this will be pushed to "mailman-bundler"? I expect bundler will be updated when 3.1 is released and that should be soon. You may find <https://wiki.list.org/x/17891998> of interest. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 years, 6 months

Database deadlock when trying to delete a member.

by Simon Coggins

Hi, I’ve got a strange error. I migrated from mailman 2.1 to 3 using the migration guide on the website and things have been working fine. But I’m in the process of testing the new syncmembers command to replace some inhouse mailman API code we wrote. I’ve tracked my problem down to what appears to be a deadlock in the postgresql database. When trying to delete certain users the SQL query hangs and never returns. After doing some tracing and tracking it down to the database, I enabled DB logging of all queries and saw that the following query was never returning: DELETE FROM member WHERE member.id = 166814 If I try to run it manually I get the same issue, in psql it never returns. mailman=# explain analyze DELETE FROM member WHERE member.id = 166814; [… 60 seconds passes…] ^CCancel request sent ERROR: canceling statement due to user request CONTEXT: while deleting tuple (2998,72) in relation "member" I’m just wondering if there are any commands or scripts I can run to verify the database and it’s constraints to see if there is some error in the database data? Or where you’d recommend I go from here? It only impacts the user on this specific list. If I add this user to another list and remove them, everything works fine. This is on a test system so I can do various testing. I’m trying to find the root cause so that I can verify my production system isn’t impacted by the same thing. Setup Details: OS: Oracle Linux 7 (Redhat) Installed using pip via virtualenv talking to a local pgsql database on the same box. Data was migrated from a mailman 2.1 install into mailman3 using migration instructions on the website. PIP Modules versions: django-mailman3 1.3.5 mailman 3.3.3 mailman-hyperkitty 1.1.0 mailmanclient 3.3.2 postorius 1.3.4 psycopg2-binary 2.8.5 RPM packages: postgresql12-12.6-1PGDG.rhel7.x86_64 postgresql12-server-12.6-1PGDG.rhel7.x86_64 postgresql12-libs-12.6-1PGDG.rhel7.x86_64 postgresql12-devel-12.6-1PGDG.rhel7.x86_64 -Simon

4 years, 11 months

Re: Newbie question 2: Rewriting issue for bounced emails

by William Oliver

On Sun, 2021-12-26 at 16:47 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/26/21 3:06 PM, William Oliver wrote: > > > > When running mailman3, do I need to set up a completely different > > virtual domain for it to run in? > > No. > > > > My "real" domain name is > > libertyfp.org, and I'm trying to make mailman work on that domain, > > e.g. > > "testlist(a)libertyfp.org." I'm starting to get the idea that I need > > to > > stick a completely different domain in there for the mailinglist. > > No. > > DNS or anywhere outside your server. > > Have you actually set an alias domain in Postorius for the > libertyfp.org > domain. It doesn't matter what name it is as long as it isn't > a real domain. A good choice is x.libertyfp.org. Have you set that > or > things like > > testlist(a)libertyfp.org testlist(a)x.libertyfp.org > testlist-bounces(a)libertyfp.org testlist-bounces(a)x.libertyfp.org > testlist-confirm(a)libertyfp.org testlist-confirm(a)x.libertyfp.org > ... [snip] Ah. I misunderstood you. I thought you meant that I had to tweak *postfix* to get this done. It's not that you weren't clear, it's that when I read the mailman3 instructions, I got the impression that *mailman* would set the alias domain automatically, so I was dead set on munging postfix. This makes more sense, and I can back out of some of the changes I made in postfix, which for the last couple of rounds was mostly flailing about randomly -- I've heard that's often not a good admin strategy. So.. if I need to do it myself, can you point me to what file I need to create/modify in the /opt/mailman/mm tree to set up the alias? Thanks! billo

4 years, 2 months

Re: spanish localization

by Victoriano Giralt

El sáb, 13-02-2021 a las 16:44 -0800, Mark Sapiro escribió: > On 2/13/21 4:08 PM, Victoriano Giralt wrote: > > Mark, please, how do you check when translations happened? Nov 7th is a > > very significant date for me (it is my wedding anniversary) and I'm 90% > > sure that I dedicated time to Weblate after that date... > > With respect to Mailman core, all I'm doing is downloading the .po for > Spanish and comparing it to mailman/messages/es/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po > from the Mailman core 3.3.3 package on PyPI and they are identical. > > If there are translated strings on weblate that are different from that, > they don't show up in the downloaded > <https://hosted.weblate.org/download/gnu-mailman/mailman/es/>;. And you are very right and I have fallen as a newbee ... and first of all I apologise for the noise. I've been doing diffs with files downloaded from Weblate and those installed on the server by pip. As I should have done from the start. Mailman core and hyperkitty show no differences. Postorius shows a bunch and django_mailman3 just a couple. I leave for others a more detailed check of the strings between downloaded .po files and Weblate online strings, it's too late here. > > And I too want to help. It would be a help to me if you can give me > examples of specific strings whose weblate translation differs from > what's in the distributed .po files. And you have helped me, making me thing twice and stop moaning and going for the facts. Apologetic-thankful-big-mouth-shut-ly, Victoriano. -- Victoriano Giralt Innovation Director Digital Transformation Vicerectorate University of Malaga +34952131415 SPAIN ================================================================== Note: signature.asc is the electronic signature of present message A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure ? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email ?

5 years

Re: Localization of auto-responses, question marks in welcome message

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Claus-Justus Heine via Mailman-users writes: > Kind thanks for the response. I have to apologize: my "test user" had > its preferred language set to en_US, so that was the reason for the > question marks. So this was indeed a user-error (i.e. my fault). But we'd like to have that user get the English version of the message. One of two things seems reasonable: 1. You have customized the German template, but not the English template. In that case, I think it makes sense for Mailman to assume the German template has important information that the English does not, and send the German template with its appropriate encoding (UTF-8, nowadays). The fact that en_US can be encoded in ASCII should not affect the encoding of the de template, ever.[1] 2. You have not customized the German template. In that case the user should get the default English template. How do those sound to you, as goals for Mailman behavoir? So ISTM this is a Mailman issue, if Mailman is sending out the German message with question marks substituted for non-ASCII characters, or if Mailman is sending out the German message with US-ASCII as the Content-Type charset parameter. The only way I can see this as a user (admin) issue is if you overwrote the English template with German (and even then, it's nuts for Mailman not to use UTF-8 for English what with directed quotes, emoji, and all the other enhancements to the character repertoire that US English speakers use). Can you tell me a little more about whether you configured any custom templates, and if so, how? That is, did you use the Postorius text field or overwrite files directly? Steve Footnotes: [1] Note to self: perhaps the admin UI can check the list of supported languages and warn if some but not all are customized.

3 years, 10 months

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