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[MM3-users] Re: localhost[::1] said: 550 Requested action not, taken: mailbox unavailable

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/26/2017 03:54 PM, Bjoern Franke wrote: > Hi, > > I created & imported a bunch of 2.1 lists and for one of the lists mm3 > replies mailbox unavailable to postfix. > > I have no clue why this happens because the other lists work. We need more information. What are the postfix log messages associated with the error? Is the list's domain the same as the working ones? Are there entries for the list in Mailman's var/data/postfix_lmtp? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/20 11:48 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > Though you are for sure that the current versions as I am claiming the > above one is perfectly without any issue, please also suggest what would be > the best previous version which definitely does not have that issue because > I even checked out the immediate previous version of mailmanclient but > still I am getting the same error. Follow this document <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#virtualenv-inst…> and install with pip. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: I need professional help to get virtualenv Mailman3 installation running

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/8/21 2:02 PM, John Seifarth via Mailman-users wrote: > > But when I try to connect via the Web, I get the message "Server error An error occurred while processing your request.” in my browser. No other clues. I’m completely stuck, and I need help to conclude this rapidly, the client really needs the new service up and running ASAP. What's in /opt/mailman/web/logs/mailmanweb.log, /opt/mailman/web/logs/uwsgi*.log and also maybe Apache's error log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Bounces

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/05/2017 01:16 PM, David Krantz wrote: > > How do I config mailman 3.1x to send any unrecognized bounces to e.g. > the list owner? Now they just end up in the bounces table but I would > like to see the entire message in this case. The short answer is you can't. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/343>. The bottom line is we aren't doing anything with bounces other than storing them. We need to fix that, and we will (It's targeted for 3.2). If you could help with code, that would be great. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Broken web interface Ubuntu 20.04

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/30/21 2:30 PM, tim(a)thecutts.org wrote: > > When I look at the mailman-web-logs, the urls that postorious puts into the page don't honour the POSTORIOUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL variable in the mailman-web.py file any more. I'm not saying there isn't an issue in Postorius, but I don't think it has anything to do with POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL which is only used for templates and has nothing to do with the rendering of the list pages and shouldn't contain anything beyond the host and port in any case. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Messages not going to held queue

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/8/22 10:08, Mail Person wrote: > I'm currently running 3.3.5 But your traceback says: ``` File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/uid.py", line 155, in _next_unpredictable_id x = random.random() + right_now % 1.0 + time.clock() % 1.0 AttributeError: module 'time' has no attribute 'clock' ``` and that line was changed to ``` x = random.random() + right_now % 1.0 + time.process_time() % 1.0 ``` by https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/552 in Mailman 3.3.0 so the traceback you report at `https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message/EC2DTCULSVCRR2ZPWVZXZU67KX3MZ46P/` was produced by Mailman < 3.3.0. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Permissions issue after upgrade of virtualenv

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/9/23 11:25, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Thu Mar 09 22:17:59.313459 2023] [core:error] [pid 15655] (13)Permission > denied: [client 197.232.xx.xx:26574] AH00035: access to / denied > (filesystem path '/opt/mailman/mm') because search permissions are missing > on a component of the path, referer: https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > I did not change Apache config and I made sure that /opt/mailman is all > owned by mailman:mailman. > > What am I missing? X permission on one or more of /opt, /opt/mailman, /opt/mailman/mm -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/25 12:14, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > As an aside, mailmanweb will not start with gunicorn named gunicorn.conf. It only works if it is named gunicorn.py. I don't know if that is an Ubuntu thing but it probably needs to be documented. For me it issues a warning but starts up just fine. I don't know what's wrong with your installation, but it seems to have serious issues compared to one which I created by following the doc at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Email commands

by Mark Sapiro

On 09/22/2016 02:34 AM, Jean-Luc Wasmer wrote: > Hi, > > I wasn't able to find documentation about the currently support email > commands for Mailman 3. Documentation can be found by sending a 'help' command to the -request address. More detail on a specific command can be obtained via, e.g., 'help subscribe'. > The following command doesn't work for me (mailman bundler 3.0.0): > subscribe address=$<$ADDRESS$>$ Currently, the only option is [digest=<no|mime|plain>] > Will this be supported later on? Submit a request at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/25/2017 12:18 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > I put this config in mailman.cfg: > > To configure Core to use Postfix, add the following configuration to your > mailman.cfg configuration, be sure to replace mail.example.com with your > email domain: > > [mta] > incoming: mailman.mta.postfix.LMTP > outgoing: mailman.mta.deliver.deliver > lmtp_host: mail.example.com > lmtp_port: 8024 > smtp_host: mail.example.com > smtp_port: 25 > > > is this correct?? Probably it should be lmtp_host: 127.0.0.1 and smtp_host: localhost but see mailman/config/schema.cfg for the defaults and more docs. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 years

[MM3-users] Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/10/25 1:37 AM, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > > The difference I am talking about is that lists.example1.com/postorius/ > lists shows only its mailing lists while lists.example2.com/postorius/ > lists shows all mailing lists on the server (ie. also mailing lists of > example1.com) What is your Postorius version? Whether Postorius displays all lists or only those matching the current host is controlled by the FILTER_VHOST setting. There was an issue with this prior to Postorius 1.3.3. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/394 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Unknown attribute: max_message_size

by Mark Sapiro

On 06/21/2018 03:29 AM, Alexander Klotz wrote: > Hi, > > unfortunately we still have problems configuring a list so that it > allows a message size larger than 40 KB. Neither the workaround > described here: > https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/commit/f86ab7fb5cc6edeb23c43336b677c24… > (required was already set to false) nor this docker setup by yova > https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/issues/246 worked. Are there any > other options we could try? Use 'mailman shell'. I.e. 'mailman shell -l listname@domain' and set m.max_message_size = N where N is the number of KB you want. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: New releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/8/20 1:01 PM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > I have Postorius verson 1.3.3 but I still see horizontal tabs not vertical > menus. > > Could you elaborate more on this? The first row of horizontal tabs is unchanged, but the `Settings` tab used to have a second horizontal row and now has a vertical list on the left. After you upgraded did you run these django-admin commands? ``` django-admin collectstatic --clear --noinput --verbosity 0 django-admin compress django-admin compilemessages django-admin migrate ``` These 4 commands should be run after every update to Postorius, HyperKitty or django_mainlman3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Issues with cross posted emails after upgrading to mailman 3.3.6

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/21 2:07 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Are we guaranteed to get a separate LMTP delivery for each list? That > is, if the MTA receives 2 RCPT TOs to lists for one transaction, won't > it do the same in LMTP when it sends forwards the message to Mailman? It doesn't matter. The LMTP runner makes a separate `in` queue entry for each recipient list, thus these are processed as separate messages regardless of how they arrived. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: new list not working

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/9/23 14:32, Christian via Mailman-users wrote: > When I ran > > mailman members -r -n enabled redlatinleg(a)lists.ccalternatives.org > > I did receive a list of subscribers for the new list I created, not just the > owner or moderator. > > Upon closer examination, another of my longtime working lists is also not > working. Similar behavior as the new list I created in that I see the > message has been archived, but not distributed to the subscribers. What do your MTA logs show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: NGINX reports 502 after fresh install

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/28/23 13:19, Mailman wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm working my way through the recommended installation in a Python virtual environment. > > I seem to have the components installed and working but when I try to access the web interface I receive an error 502 from the web server. > > I'm assuming I've misconfigured something in Nginx. Have you configured nginx per <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#nginx-configura…>? Is your wsgi server (uWSGI or Gunicorn) running and listening on port 8000? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Archive date/time vs elapsed time

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/26/23 11:41 PM, Mark wrote: > > No, I don't see it on the MM users' archive. > The archive where I'm seeing it is HyperKitty version 1.3.4 on a Debian > packaged MM 3.3.3 > The problem lay therein? I don't know if this is a change since 1.3.4 or an issue with the Debian package. The latest Debian stable (bookworm) has more up to date packages if you can upgrade. In any case, this does not seem to be an issue in current HyperKitty. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Hiding an ML from a site

by Mark Sapiro

On February 6, 2024 7:45:14 AM PST, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >I had this set to True in settings_local.py, but False in settings.py. >So it seems to not make a difference in my setup. In a standard setup, anything set in settings_local.py overrides any corresponding setting in settings.py. That said, FILTER_VHOSTS is not perfect. It only works for Postorius if the separate web hosts also have different mail hosts. See lines 1051 et seq at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/blob/master/src/postorius/views/list…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: locked files problem after reboot

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/23/19 5:36 AM, mailman3(a)malevil.cc wrote: > hey, I have got a problem with flufl.lock in mailman3. When my server is rebooted, locked files seems to stay and cause errors so mailman3 core wont start (it is started automatically by supervisord service): ... > I have to remove the files in var/locks manually to go forward. Is there a configuration error for my setup? Or is it just a not fixed bug? Add the --force option to the 'mailman start' command in your startup script. i.e. `mailman start --force` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Error Curiosity

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/20 2:11 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > This happened again. Is there a way to get HK to deal with such messages automatically? How would you like them dealt with? The issue is in mailman-hyperkitty. When it's attempt to archive the message returns an error, it queues the message for retry. It is not clear if any of these errors are actually retryable - for sure some aren't but maybe others like HyperKitty not responding are - but even if we think retry won't succeed what would you like done with the message? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: UnpicklingError on mailman lists command

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/2/21 7:35 PM, Bryan Loniewski wrote: > $ /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman version > GNU Mailman 3.3.2 (Tom Sawyer) > > So, I'm running > 3.2. Any other advice on debugging the truncated data? The traceback indicates sqlalchemy is unpickling data whose type is PickleType. The only mailinglist columns which are PickleType are the legacy *these_nonmembers and topics. You could try invoking mysql on Mailman's database and doing SELECT list_name, accept_these_nonmembers, hold_these_nonmembers, reject_these_nonmembers, discard_these_nonmembers, topics FROM mailinglist; and look for the longest values to possibly identify the problem list and attribute. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Problem with importing lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/1/24 11:09 AM, Alain D D Williams wrote: > This is a problem that I had before. > > Creating a new email list, adding members - all goes well the members can send > email to the list and it is sent out. > > Create an email list and import configuration data from mailman 2.1.20 > *sometimes* has problems - mail is received, archived but not sent out. Are you running `mailman import21` as `root` and thus creating files in Mailman's var/templates/lists/ directory that can't be read by `mailman`? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty django.request forbidden

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/1/25 08:02, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Arpad Horvath via Mailman-users writes: > > > ERROR 2025-02-26 06:47:31,705 861 hyperkitty.views.mailman Access to the archiving API endpoint was forbidden from IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, your MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM setting may be misconfigured > [...] > > I have this line in /etc/mailman3/mailman-web.py > > > > MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM = ('https://lists.somewhere.xx/hyperkitty', '::1') As Steve says, 'https://lists.somewhere.xx/hyperkitty' is inappropriate for MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM. In particilar, MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM must include the IP 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' from the above log message. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Confirmation Email Not Sent

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/31/25 08:56, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > So I am now trying to add a member to my list using the ...join address. I get back a message saying the request is pending. And what does this message say? It should be the confirmation request to the user built from the mailman/templates/en/list:user:action:subscribe.txt template. > I can also see it on the pending user confirmation page. However, there is nothing showing up on the pending approval page Because it is not waiting moderator approval, it is waiting user confirmation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/21/2017 04:43 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > YEEEES! At last!!! I can see the web UI. > > Now I´m getting this message in the web UI: > > Something went wrong > Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core. > > > > Where do I configure the REST API ????? So I guess you figured out that ALLOWED_HOSTS is a Django setting in settings.py or wherever your Django settings are. Now you have to start Mailman Core. In your Python 3 'env' where you installed Mailman Core, run 'bin/mailman start'. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 years

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/25/2017 01:21 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > Regarding this: > > # To be added to Django's settings.py > > EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend' > EMAIL_HOST = 'localhost' > EMAIL_PORT = 25 > EMAIL_HOST_USER = <username> > EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = <password> > > > > What should I use for username and password? > Should I keep the localhost on the host param? If you want Django (i.e. Postorius, Hyperkitty and Django admin/auth/etc.) to deliver via localhost, you don't need EMAIL_HOST_USER and EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD. Those are only for authentication to some other host. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 years

[MM3-users] Re: join via webform

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/21/19 6:32 AM, mailman3(a)malevil.cc wrote: > but that means you have to login first and need a password, ok. That is not very convenient, so I think about setting up a simple (external) form where users can enter their emailaddress and its then used to send a message to list-leave(a)example.com. That would certainly work, but you should ensure that the list's unsubscription_policy is not 'open' so people can't unsubscribe others without their knowledge. The default policy is 'confirm' so it should be OK if you haven't changed it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius & multi domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/22/20 11:37 AM, Gelpi Andrea wrote: > > I'm not a python programmer so I ask you if it'd be long to implement a > workaround like this. > > If the web server is a.example.com and the email domain is example.com > > It'd be possible to drop the "a" and send the email domain only in the > query? > > It's a workaround. Can you help me in this? I'm currently working on a better fix. I'll post here on my progress. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman services under systemd

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/22/20 2:13 PM, Morris Jones wrote: > First post, I'm building a new mail server as my tired old server can > no longer meet security requirements. (It's long overdue.) > I see where Torge Riedel is running the mailman service under systemd, > but I'm having trouble doing that. I don't see a mailman option that > doesn't detach as a daemon. > Did I miss something? Anyone have a systemd service example I might > pilfer? <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experience?action=At…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Recommended mySQL Database Setup & Archive Importing

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/20 1:02 PM, matthew(a)alberti.us wrote: > Mark/Ruth/The List, > Thanks for the prompt responses. Before I try to figure out a way to > correct this... is the "character_set_database" the only thing I should be > looking at? You need to set 'OPTIONS': {'charset': 'utf8mb4'} in the DATABASES['default'] definition in your django settings. I'm not sure if this overrides the various collation, etc. settings in the DB or not, but it wouldn't hurt to update the DB. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to create my first mailing list

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/18/22 18:22, liutianhua68(a)163.com wrote: > Hello: > I have installed mailman3 with docker, configured "MAILMAN_ADMIN" in docker-compose.yaml, but after logging into web with this user, there is nowhere to create mailing list. > How should I create a super admin account now or where to create the first mailing list, is there any reference documentation, please help, thanks. Documentation is at https://asynchronous.in/docker-mailman/ See https://asynchronous.in/docker-mailman/web/#running for creating a Django superuser. Once created, the superuser can create lists in Postorius. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: serving /static-content within /mailman3-web-Folder - change in recent mm release

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/29/22 06:50, Stefan Bauer wrote: > Hi Folks, > > during our migration to latest MM we noticed, that nowadays, the static > content is not served from within mailmans base directory, but from outside. > > old MM3: > > domain.tld/mailman3/static/django-mailman3/js/main.js > > new MM3: > > domain.tld/static/django-mailman3/js/main.js > > Is there a chance to change it to the old behavior? See the Django settings STATIC_ROOT and STATIC_URL. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Settings, Message Acceptance, Discard these non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/22/25 12:10, Philip Bondi wrote: > Hello to all: > > We receive quite a bit of spam. I try to maintain some regular expressions in "Discard these non-members" to block spammers. > > Where would the "discard" notification be logged? I think the docs say "mailman.log". What would I search for? The message is written to the mailman.vette log which by default is included in the mailman.log file. The log message is DISCARD: MESSAGE-ID; The sender is in the nonmember discard list -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Too Many From Headers

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/17/25 07:07, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't know if this is related or not but rather then the list name being in the from header, it is either the list owner or the sender address. Since I'm both I don't know how to tell which from my test emails. It should be the sender. Nothing in Mailman would but the list's owner address there. You still haven't answered whether it is one From: header with the address repeated 5 times or 5 separate From: headers. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Fwd: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/1/21 1:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > When Python runs or imports from a .py file, it first looks for a > corresponding .pyc file and if that is as new or newer than the .py, it > uses the .pyc. If not, it uses the .py and byte-compiles it and if it > has permission, writes an updated .pyc > > Except recent Python3 (at least I think 3.5 and newer doesn't use a .pyc > in the same directory as the .py Its uses a __pycache__ directory in the > same directory as the .py and within that directory a file like in this > case settings_local.cpython-37.pyc (or whatever the python version is) > > In any case, I would remove the existing settings_local.pyc. That can't > hurt, but I'm curious what > > ls -lR /usr/share/mailman3-web/ > > shows. It just occurred to me what the issue is. It is almost certainly that there is a /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings_local.pyc that is as new or newer than the /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings_local.py symlink even though it is older than the target /etc/mailman3/mailman-web.py. Just remove that .pyc, and that should fix it. But I still wonder what python version this is since current Mailman requires python >= 3.6 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core.

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/20 11:28 AM, joseverde(a)gmail.com wrote: > Alrighty, so resetting the permissions and running as list got things running. I was able to start mailman, although when it started I got 4 pages of exceptions. Here's one shortened example (most seemed to follow the same pattern): Your issues all seem to be MemoryError This is a Python detected out of memory condition. You need more RAM or you need to configure or increase the size of a swap file. What does `free` show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years

[MM3-users] Re: import an mm3 hyperkitty archive

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/22 09:16, Eggert Ehmke wrote: > Where is it stated that in this situation I have to run mailman-web instead of django-admin? I said: >> Note in the above, `django-admin` is the command you use to invoke >> Django's management which may be `django-admin`, `manage.py`, >> `mailman-web` or something else depending on how Mailman is installed. and while it is not explicitly stated, when using mailman-web per https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#installing-web-… all the examples show the command as `mailman-web`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: New Lists Appear in HyperKitty Archives, But No Mail Data is Shown

by Mark Sapiro

On July 14, 2025 11:44:56 AM EDT, Asif Muzammil via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >Hi Mark, > >i have spool data at /opt/mailman/mm/var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ some files available 17375475,38829901003948757.pck >so now what to do with this? Please give me guideline now what do next? Find the relevant errors and tracebacks in /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/mailman.log. If those aren't sufficient for you to understand and fix the issue, post one exception and traceback here and we will help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: mass invitation

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/20/19 9:07 AM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019, at 7:17 AM, mailman3(a)malevil.cc wrote: >> in postorius there is just the option to make a mass subscription, in >> mailman2 there was also the possibility to just invite users, so they >> need to click a link when they really want to join the list. Is this >> also available in mailman3/postorius? > > > No, not yet. There is an open issue that I can't dig out right now. The issue is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/510> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Converting discussion list to read-only list (settings)

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/19 3:14 AM, Paul Arenson wrote: > >> Announce only style the list attribute > allow_list_posts is False and for the Discussion style, it's True. > > I guess I should leave it as TRUE if I am keeping as discussion list, but since I am moderating all comments, I am guessing it doesn't matter. Am I right? Yes, leave it True. It only matters for users replying by email with MUAs that provide a "reply-list" function, but for them, it is helpful. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: installation

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/21/20 5:40 PM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote: > What do I do now about this? > > (venv) root@localhost:/opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project# > python manage.py collectstatic > > You have requested to collect static files at the destination > location as specified in your settings: > > /opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project/static > > This will overwrite existing files! > Are you sure you want to do this? > > Type 'yes' to continue, or 'no' to cancel: y > CommandError: Collecting static files cancelled. > (venv) root@localhost:/opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project# y != yes -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Lessons learned and a couple little gotcha for newbies

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/13/22 05:23, Paul Ssekamatte via Mailman-users wrote: > hi William, > please clarify what you mean by this step > 8. You need to manually set the local virtual host for mailman3 > Thank you He means that if you are going to use the alias domain feature discussed at https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… you need to actually set the value you choose for the alias_domain in the Postorius domains view or via REST or `mailman shell`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Member Issue Discovered

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/20/20 6:54 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > On 10/19/20 11:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> Mailman 3 is totally different from Mailman 2.1 in this respect. Mailman >> 2.1 had no concept of user. All it knew was addresses subscribed to >> lists and an address subscribed to one list had no connection to the >> same address subscribed to another list or being an owner or moderator >> of a list. > > I think this should still be the case for non-registered list members. > List owners/moderators are different. They HAVE to be registered users > of Postorius/Affinity in order to manage/moderate a list. Here's a thought. For Affinity/Empathy at least, how about using Mailman core's user as the Affinity registered user. I.e., if someone's first interaction is to register with Affinity, have that registration create a core user to keep the Affinity registration data. This core user already accommodates a display_name and password and email address(es). If the person already is a core user when registering for Affinity, just update the core user as needed, probably only a password reset or just setting it if it is currently None. Then you don't have the issue of another, separate registration for Affinity. This would be more difficult for Postorius/Hyperkitty because those users are Django users, but that isn't an issue for Affinity. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Docker Installation of Mailman -- The Hyperkitty Chronicles

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/22/18 6:08 AM, brian(a)emwd.com wrote: > Using Maxking's docker project to install mailman3, I have a fairly functional mailman3 installation. However Hyperkitty is not archiving or showing list participants like: ... Check your list's Settings -> Archiving in Postorius and make sure policy is public or private and HyperKitty is active. Also, make sure the cron jobs are running. I'm not sure how this is set up in the Docker container, but see <http://docs.list.org/en/latest/config-web.html#scheduled-tasks-required>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: "Cannot connect to SMTP server localhost on port 25"

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/21/19 1:28 AM, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote: > > I cannot discern anything in the qfiles. It'd take some effort to > deanonymise them for posting here. > > I've had new posts in the list and they get stuck as well. It's a stretch, but I suggest you examine the list membership and remove any invalid local addresses. Also, look in the mail server's logs to see if you can see anything about incoming connections being established and then dropped. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/20 11:47 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > I have run the below commands for sure: > > $ cd mailmanclient > $ python setup.py develop > > And as you have suggested, I navigate to mailmanclient directory and ran > the git log to provide you the version output. And I am fairly certain that the running Mailman/Postorius installation is not using those files. I can't tell you why this is the case, but if it weren't, you wouldn't be seeing this error. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: unwanted chunked delivery

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/7/22 2:12 PM, mm3-omf(a)sh.werbittewas.de wrote: > > I understand, why chunking may have benefits perhaps in most situations, > so it's set as default, but it would be great, to have the possibility > to disable this without patching code, which might get overwritten with > an update. You could submit an issue as a feature request at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues, but I don't think we'd give it much priority. I think the trend these days is more towards enabling personalization and/or VERP which require one recipient per transaction. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/25 08:51, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > I don't know if this has anything to do with anything but I'm seeing this line in the mailman3 status: > > mailman3.service: Can't open PID file /opt/mailman/mm/var/master.pid (yet?) > > I checked and the pid file is being created. This was asked by you at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… and answered at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… Also see https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/1397 and https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite-doc/-/merge_requests/183 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months

[MM3-users] Re: getting spammed when sending lots of mails (>1000)

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/05/2018 11:22 AM, Asaf Ohayon wrote: > > Using Mailman 3.2 / Posfix 2.10.1 > I have a list configured, when having only few members, > all is OK, email gets to inbox (at GMail) > > But when sending to thousands of members, > it gets to the Spam folder, > Is it a matter of rate-limiting at postfix ? Presumably, the issue is 'too much' email arriving at Google in a short time. If you can limit the sending rate in Postfix, that could help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/20 12:08 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > I tried this way but in this method I don't find any files to edit for my > customizations like > 1. Removal of social accounts, > 2. Addition of SMS integration and so. > > If I can do my required customizations through pip installation I am fine > with that. If you follow the instructions for installing in a virtualenv, in say /opt/mailman/venv, all the component files will be in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.x/site-packages -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: more about spanish translations

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/19/21 5:09 AM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > > I would like to translate it all, but as said, I cannot find where to do > it. I wonder if it's comes from another package as allauth or something > like this. Yes, it does come from allauth, specifically allauth/templates/account/email/email_confirmation_message.txt. The Spanish allauth message catalog is at <https://github.com/pennersr/django-allauth/tree/master/allauth/locale/es/LC…>. I suppose you could submit a pull request to update it. Or you could just update your local file in your installation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: accept mails from several Users, not list members beside members, howto

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/12/21 11:56 PM, Lars Schimmer wrote: > > Thank you. > I would have hoped for a extra input box to enter a list of ~100 email > addresses, but ok, lets do it this way. There is the legacy accept_these_nonmembers setting (exposed in Postorius since 1.3.3). This is designed to support the MM 2.1 setting which accepted regexps, but it also supports non-regexp addresses. Note that a match in one of *_these_nonmembers will override the moderation action for a non-member. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Upgrading mailman 3 venv installation

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/29/21 12:32 PM, Morris Jones wrote: > > It appears that my installation predates the mailman-web package, as I > don't have it installed. > > But if I understand the docs correctly, it serves to take care of the > django-admin commands for migration, static files, js/css compression, etc. > > So I think I don't need to do anything special (like add mailman-web), > except a database migration after the upgrades. That's correct. I recommend running these Django commands after upgrading collectstatic --clear compress compilemessages migrate -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: About to Install MM3 -- Seeking clarification

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/25/22 12:56, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > I must be missing necessary policy modules for mailman or I am > missing relevant parts of the tutorial that deals with SELinux. Where > do I go from here? Create the necessary SELinux rules to allow `mailman` to access what it needs to. I don't know if anyone on this list can help you with that. Note that if `mailman` is currently a `normal user` as opposed to a `system user` making it a system user might help. See `man usermod` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: No DBA password when installing Mailman3 with remote database server

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/3/22 03:57, Markus Ludwig Grandpré wrote: > > thank you very much for your answers. Below this text you will find a > brief documentation how I finally managed to install mailman3 and > mailman3web packages under Debian 11 with a remote PostGreSQL server > v10.22. Thank you for providing this documentation. With your permission, I would like to add this to the wiki at https://wiki.list.org/DOC/5%20Downloading%20and%20installing%20Mailman. Is that OK, if so may I also acknowledge you as the author? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Clean-up of non-members

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/25/24 15:02, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > (venv) mailman@eu:~$ mailman shell -l LISTSPEC > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell > Use commit() to commit changes. > Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. > Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. > The variable 'm' is the LISTSPEC mailing list > In [1]: len(list(m.nonmembers.members)) > Out[1]: 873 Then it appears that your version of mailman/commands/cli_members is broken. Compare it to https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/raw/master/src/mailman/commands/cli_me… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Opinions wanted.

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/8/26 10:18, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Mark Sapiro writes: > > > How significant an issue do you think that is? > > Very, if you have 20K lists. That's not the issue I was asking about. That issue is if the selection dropdown is hidden from any page that shows all the items, then in the case where there are say 35 items and the default 10 per page shows the first of 4 pages and you select 50 per page from the dropdown then all 35 are on a page with no dropdown, and since there is no dropdown you can't easily go back to a fewer number per page, at least if the browsers back button won't do it for some reason. Also, the issue isn't always the number of lists. Consider <https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/?all-lists> which shows only 2 (or 4 if you can see the hidden ones) lists, but even so, <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/latest> has over 2500 threads. This is relevant because, currently at least, pagination is done in a common django_mailman3 meth and any change will apply globally. > I would be more in favor of a larger default (25 or 50, even 100), > although I live in a bandwidth-rich country. Maybe that's not > feasible in many places. Maybe we need another issue/MR to configure the default number of items per page. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: FYI: Django security releases issued: 4.0.6 and 3.2.14

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/7/22 12:44 PM, David Newman wrote: > > However, pip now throws a warning when looking at package info: > > (venv) mailman@somehost:/home/dnewman$ pip show mailman-web > WARNING: Ignoring invalid distribution -jango (/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages) > ... What does ``` ls -la /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/-jango* ``` show? I suspect you have some spurious stuff there. The timestamps might give a clue as to how it got there. If it shows anything, ``` rm -rf /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/-jango* ``` will probably fix it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Disable all mail capabilities

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/2/24 09:30, Hope Less via Mailman-users wrote: > > If I can't stop this I'll have to remove the list entirely which includes the archives. I really wish to leave the archives up. Any idea on how I can remove the mail capabilities and leave the rest? You can remove the list and keep the archives. The `mailman remove` command will remove the list and leave the HyperKitty or other archive intact. However, if the HyperKitty archive is not public, it will not be accessible to anyone but superusers without the list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius not HTML-decoding < to "<" characters

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/9/24 12:24, Ron / BCLUG wrote: > > Hopefully I've assigned the blame to Postorius accurately and no > formatting nor archiving issues make the issue difficult to understand. This is a HyperKitty issue. Postorius has nothing to do with archiving. Also, it depends on the archive rendering mode and only occurs if the mode is Markdown text rather than Plain text. It is really `mistune`, <https://mistune.lepture.com/en/latest/index.html>, which is doing the markdown rendering and which `escapes` HTML tags. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Internal server error instead of web interface

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/25 02:44, Christian H. Kuhn via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi all, > > https://lists.qno.de/mailman3 shows an internal server error. The most common cause of this is an uncaught exception thrown in Mailman core. > No errors show in logs. That's strange. There should be something. If it's a core error, it should be logged in /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/mailman.log. Also, there is a Django log, probably at opt/mailman/web/logs/mailmanweb.log. Have you looked at those? Are they being written at all? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: How to upgrade to 3.10

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/8/26 20:08, Paul Tomblin via Mailman-users wrote: > > As a feature request, could we get the unsubscribe email address as a template variable? Maybe I should dust off my python skills and submit a pull request. Do I need a gitlab account to do that? You don't need a special variable for that. Look at the footer in this list post. It contains To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org That is produced from To unsubscribe send an email to ${short_listname}-leave@${domain} -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Trip report -- setting up mailman3 in gcloud

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/24/26 09:20, Stephen Daniel wrote: > > I have only one open issue. Shortly after I start mailman I get this > warning: > > /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/falcon/request.py:2483: > DeprecatedWarning: The RequestOptions.auto_parse_form_urlencoded option is > deprecated. Please use Request.get_media() to consume the submitted > URL-encoded form instead. > warnings.warn( > > I am ignoring this. Is there something I should do about this? This is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/work_items/1179>, fixed for the next release by <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/1441>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/21/2017 04:57 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > Should Sign Up ?? Log In?? Yes. > El vie., 21 jul. 2017 a las 18:56, Rafael Mora (<rafael.mora.guti(a)gmail.com>) > escribió: > >> Nice! Up and running! >> >> How do I start using mailman? what are the steps?? What do you want to do with Mailman? This is the key question. There is some list subscriber documentation at <http://docs.list.org/en/latest/userguide.html>. You can create domains and lists via Postorius or via the core's bin/mailman commands ('bin/mailman --help' for a list). -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 years

[MM3-users] Re: HyperKitty: Thread matching query does not exist

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/30/2017 07:42 AM, C. R. Oldham wrote: > > I have an active list for which I am trying to debug some deliverability > issues. When a user tells me that folks aren't getting their postings, I > check the archives first. In this case, I am getting a traceback saying > "thread matching query does not exist" when I try to go to the HyperKitty > page for the list. How can I debug this? Start by posting the traceback, and we may be able to help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: LTMP to Postfix problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/18/20 4:17 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > So lmtp runner was NOT running when I restarted mailman core, however I > saw no error messages in the mailman.log at the time of the first > instance of the connection refused message. Check your system logs to see if there's anything about the OS killing the process. Also check the Postfix log for deliveries to mailman just before it died. Just stabbing in the dark, but maybe some huge message caused it to grow beyond some memory limit and get killed by the OS. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: uncaught bounce messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/23/21 5:29 PM, David Bremner wrote: > > Oh great, I just upgraded to Mailman 3.3.0, so I'll see what happens. > > I did notice a bunch (10 or 20?) of subscribers being disabled for being > over the bounce threshhold right after the upgrade, I wonder if that is > related. See the thread at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… There is an example `mailman shell` session at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… that will reenable delivery for members disabled by bounce if you think the disables were spurious. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Docker-Setup: example.com in test mails

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/21/22 05:06, Bjoern Franke via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, > > we are running a docker setup with mailman-web and mailman-core. > > To our confusion, test mails testing for bounces are sent from example.com > > From: Mailman <mailman(a)example.com> > To: Mailman Bounces <mailman-bounces(a)example.com> > > instead of the list domain and are therefore often considered as spam. > The list domain should be lists.ffnw.de. Exactly what messages are you referring to? I don't understand `test mails testing for bounces`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: mail for lists.ccalternatives.org loops back to myself, then Recipient address rejected

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/9/22 18:12, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote: > > -Added lists.ccalternatives.org to the mydestination line in > /etc/postfix/main.cf and restarted Postfix > -Now a new error message: > <Deepadaptation(a)lists.ccalternatives.org>: host > lists.ccalternatives.org[192.46.218.224] said: 550 5.1.1 > <Deepadaptation(a)lists.ccalternatives.org>: Recipient address rejected: > User > unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO command) See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… - in particular local_recipient_maps. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/10/25 09:45, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Your assumption is correct. I did not use the back button. I went to https://localhost/mailman3 the clicked on the signin button in the upper right. After filling in the username and password the 403 page came up. See https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.2/ref/csrf/#how-it-works particularly the parts about cookies. Is localhost included in ALLOWED_HOSTS in your settings.py? Is there another domain that can be used to reach your server?, if so is that in ALLOWED_HOSTS, and what if you use that domain rather than localhost. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mass operations on large list - Internal Server Error

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/17/25 06:51, Liam Reilly wrote: > > After some experimentation, I think I've got a working configuration. > > Setting the timeout in /etc/mailman3/rest-wsgi.cfg did not seem to work properly. In the end I had to modify the systemd unit file for mailmanweb, adding a --timeout to the ExecStart line: > > ExecStart=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /opt/mailman/mm/gunicorn.conf.py --timeout 360 mailman_web.wsgi:application You could add timeout = 360 to /opt/mailman/mm/gunicorn.conf.py instead of modifying the mailmanweb service command. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Can disabled users enable themself?

by Mark Sapiro

On July 1, 2026 11:20:02 AM PDT, Flo via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: >Hi, > >users can get disabled if there are too many bounces. > >Is there an easy possibility for the disabled users to enable themself on their own? I checked the email they get, however, there is no link. Only the owner's email address. Assuming you have Postorius or another web list management UI, the user can go to the web UI and set their list delivery enabled. You can create a custom list.user.notice.warning template to include instructions in the email. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Autorespond postings: does not seem to work on 3.2?

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/29/2018 11:28 AM, Asaf Ohayon wrote: > Hello > > Maybe I'm not understanding the meaning of this setting correctly, > When I set this, I don't see any extra emails going out when I'm posting to the list I'm sure this is the case. I was looking at this myself the other day, and I hadn't finished my analysis, but it appears the only autoresponder that is actually implemented is autorespond requests. The others have apparently never worked in Mailman 3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years

[MM3-users] Re: Django errors after deleting a thread

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/24/20 12:45 PM, peter(a)chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: > > After deleting a thread via the web interface (because it's spam), I > get lots of messages from hyperkitty > > E.g. > Internal Server Error: /hyperkitty/list/list@domain/top-threads > > DoesNotExist at /hyperkitty/list/list@domain/top-threads > Thread matching query does not exist. This should resolve itself eventually if you are running the Django periodic jobs, but to fix it you can manually run your_django_admin_command runjob recent_threads_cache which is a daily job which refreshes the recent threads cache. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Rebuilding a list index fails

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/21 9:59 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > Now that I’ve got my instance back up and running on the latest released code, I am trying to rebuild a list index. I am using Xapian via haystack, which worked beautifully before my recent list meltdown. > > Error messages below. > > rebuild_index fails with the same error. > > This is with django version 3.0.12. django.utils.six was removed in Django 3.0. See <https://pypi.org/project/django-utils-six/> for a work around replacement. I.e. in your venv do pip install django-utils-six -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Custom templates (was: Re: Re: nginx configuration on a multitasking server)

by Mark Sapiro

David Newman wrote: > https://${domain}/mailman3/lists/${short_listname}.${domain}/ FYI, ${short_listname}.${domain} is the same as ${list_id} Also, ${domain} as the web site address may not be appropriate. For example, on this list $domain is `mailman3.org`, but the base URL for Postorius is `https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3` and `https://mailman3.org/mailman3` doesn't work. There is no replacement for the web domain if it's different from the email domain for the same reason that there are no web URLs in the default templates. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty failure?

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/24/22 09:24, Stephen Daniel wrote: > > In the log I see messages that look like this: > > Feb 24 11:43:44 2022 (28621) HyperKitty failure on > https://lists.example.com/archives/api/mailman/archive: <html> > <head><title>401 Authorization Required</title> What are the exact versions of HyperKitty and mailman-hyperkitty HyperKitty >=1.3.5 requires mailman-hyperkitty >=1.2.0. Earlier versions of HyperKitty require earlier versions of mailman-hyperkitty. If you have HyperKitty >=1.3.5 and mailman-hyperkitty >=1.2.0 there is a thread on this at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… See the last two posts in that thread. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/15/23 05:22, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > 1. Where is this template that the system used and can I edit it? /opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/<python_version>/site-packages/mailman/templates/en/list:user:action:subscribe.txt You can edit it, but your edits will be overwritten if you upgrade. > 2. Why is it not using the template I created? Is the template you placed in /opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/lists/kictanet.lists.kictanet.or.ke/en/ named list:user:action:subscribe.txt and does Mailman have permission to read it? Did you try to create a template in Postorius? If you did, that one will take precedence. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Domain in welcome message

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/17/2016 08:28 PM, Jean-Luc Wasmer wrote: > > The welcome message contains the wrong URL ("example.com") for the list: This is fixed for Mailman 3.1. The templating system and templates have been changed. In the mean time, you can make a custom version of the welcome.txt template for the site, domain or list. See mailman/templates/en/welcome.txt for the default template. A custom template can be put in var/templates/site/en/welcome.txt or var/templates/domains/example.com/en/welcome.txt or var/templates/lists/listname.example.com/en/welcome.txt where var is Mailman's configured var_dir. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Where are the subject templates hidden?

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/28/2017 02:56 AM, Thor Atle Rustad wrote: > Using Docker. Suppose I've overcome > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/359 and I can make Mailman use > the templates/site/no directory for my customized templates. Yes, it seems > to be working, no hickups when national characters are used in the > templates. > > but... > > the welcome message still says "Welcome to the "listname" mailing list" in > English. Is it possible to change that? Have you put the desired template in templates/site/no/list:user:notice:welcome.txt ? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 does not send to the members of the lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/12/20 6:11 PM, maszap(a)tin.it wrote: > Hi, > > my main.cf > ... > virtual_transport = lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp Your list is apparently in a virtual domain and the above is overriding the transport maps below and delivering list mail to Dovecot. > virtual_uid_maps = static:5000 > > # Mailman related settings > owner_request_special = no > transport_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp > local_recipient_maps = proxy:unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp > relay_domains = ${{$compatibility_level} < {2} ? {$mydestination} : {}} hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_domains -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Changing subscription address

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/15/21 4:16 PM, Allan Hansen wrote: > > Will I now have to tell her to do this for each list she is subscribed to: If you have shell access to the server, you can do this: ``` $ /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman shell Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. >>> um = getUtility(IUserManager) >>> adr = um.get_address('old(a)examople.com') >>> adr.email = 'new(a)example.net' >>> commit() ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Issues with cross posted emails after upgrading to mailman 3.3.6

by Mark Sapiro

Simon Coggins wrote: > On 7 Nov 2021, at 10:54 am, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.netmailto:mark@msapiro.net> wrote: > I wound up taking a different approach. I check for other references to > the message in the message store and only delete the message if there > are none. The fix is at > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/932/diffshttps://gitlab… > Oh nice. That seems like a sensible solution. Thanks for tackling so quickly. I’ll do some testing today and roll it out once testing is complete. I made a small change to defend against 'impossible' situations. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/933/diffs

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: What is this EMail trying to tell me

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/22 21:17, Martin Lorenz wrote: > Since I rebootet my VPS yesterday I get tons of these and can't find out what's wrong. > > Please help. > > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Service Unavailable: /mailman3/lists/ku-venne-2020.list.poc.im/ > Datum: Fri, 09 Dec 2022 04:58:15 -0000 > Von: django(a)poc.im > An: root@localhost > > Service Unavailable: /mailman3/lists/ku-venne-2020.list.poc.im/ It appears that Mailman core is not running? Did it start properly following the reboot? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman issues after re-boot

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/27/23 16:29, paulrubin37(a)gmail.com wrote: > I went through the install process in the provided link when I tried to start the service I keep getting errors about: > > Sep 27 19:17:15 mail mailman[1771]: ImportError: cannot import name 'path' from 'importlib_resources' (/opt/mailman/venv/lib64/python3.8/site-packages/importlib_resources/__init__.py) > > I verified the python version: > > (venv) mailman@mail:~> python -V > Python 3.8.10 See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1093 The easiest fix is in your venv do ``` pip install importlib_resources\<6.0 ``` Mailman core <=3.3.8 is incompatible with importlib_resources>=6.0 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Setting base_url for the domain to use it in the templates.

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/10/24 7:17 PM, Timour Bakeev wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm trying to use extended placeholders for the [templated texts](https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/res… in the message footer that are sent to the members: ... > But my attempts to use REST API to set it fail: This feature is in the not yet released Mailman 3.3.10, see https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/NEWS.… It is not available in 3.3.9. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty error - not archiving

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/26/25 1:23 AM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > I am seeing the error below and wondering what's the cause: The message has some issue which is causing HyperKitty to not be able to archive the message. The message will be queued in Mailman's var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ directory and can be examined with `mailman qfile`. If you do that and the cause is not clear, you can post the message, and we will investigate. If the message is unwanted, you can just remove the file from Mailman's var/archives/hyperkitty/spool/ directory. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Where does sender postorius@ come from?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/14/23 14:35, Jens Günther wrote: > Thanks for the hint. Unfortunately it's not working as expected. I'm > using the docker-setup and tried it in 2 different locations, but > neither got the expected effect: > > - I put the variable in the mm-web-container-environment: > mm-web: > environment: > - EMAIL_CONFIRMATION_FROM=myaddress(a)something.org That won't work > - Then I tried settings_local.py with: > EMAIL_CONFIRMATION_FROM = 'myaddress(a)something.org' That is the correct place. It should work. Did you restart the container after making this change? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty list overview error: thread matching query does not exist

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/28/23 10:17 PM, Ken Alker wrote: > > Tthere is now an implication that my daily recent_threads_cache job must not have been running, true? Is there some way to check to see if the jobs are running? I did a "crontab -l" and the cron jobs that appear are identical to what was suggested at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html?highlight=perio…. ``` grep 'CRON.*runjobs' /var/log/syslog ``` will tell you if cron is running the various `runjobs` commands. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Can't start mailman after reboot.

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/24/23 11:22 AM, mrl(a)psfc.mit.edu wrote: > Hi - I couldn't find the locks. So I rebooted the computer and it told me to force start it using: > > mailman -C /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg start --force > > I recall someone asking using bugzilla (?) a few months ago, if this could be in the startup file. > > What do you think about that? It is a bad idea because it allows using the normal startup to start a second instance of Mailman core when core is already running. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Aborted connection message in log in every 5 minutes

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/31/24 02:23, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > I observe occasional error messages in MariaDB log even with NNTP runner > disabled via > ``` > [runner.nntp] > start: no > ``` > They look like this: > ``` > 2024-01-31 0:23:03 231666 [Warning] Aborted connection 231666 to db: > 'mailman_core' user: 'root' host: '192.168.32.7' (Got timeout reading > communication packets) ... > ``` > However, no harm caused by them was detected. Can you correlate these with mailmanweb.log entries that might indicate what Django was doing. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migrating from old V2 server to new V3 server. Questions.

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/14/24 10:31, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > Ah, you are right. I was able to run it from /opt/mailman/venv/bin/. I'm so confused on why it won't send out to the e-mail on the list now. Look for shunted messages in Mailman's var/queue/shunt. Look for error messages in Mailman's var/logs/mailman.log. Check the ownership and permissions on everything in Mailman's var/templates/ directory if there is anything to ensure the Mailman user can read it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: message duplication and an NNTP related error

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/24/26 09:23, Laurens Kils-Hütten wrote: > > I've used the debian packages: > > apt install mailman3-full mailman3-web Then this may be a Debian issue and should be reported there in any case. See <https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344>. For what it's worth, the lists python-announce-list(a)python.org, python-list(a)python.org and python-de(a)python.org all use the nntp gateway and don't see any message duplication. Have you looked at your nntp server's logs for clues as to the duplication and the error? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: What is result of planned MM3 integrated installation at Pycon?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/9/18 2:19 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > I may have missed the announcement, but I thought it was hoped to get a > major leap toward an integrated MM3 installation at the May Pycon. Did > anything exciting happen toward that goal, or should I just press on with > the latest release? We accomplished a lot. We are still tying up a few loose ends, but the release should be soon. FWIW, this list is currently running on the HEADs of the GitLab branches. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Manage Member(s) Mailman Settings / Display Names

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/10/20 4:55 PM, Jim Ward wrote: > Mailman2 allowed me to list my members and modify a number of their attributes (display_name, etc) > > Postorius is a beautiful interface BUT I am evidently not finding how to manage my members to the extent that I could in Mailman2 It's not like MM 2.1 where you have a membership list with columns of checkboxes, but if you pull down the Users menu and select Members or Non-Members, each user has an options link that allows you to set/change options. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty messages stuck in spool

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/4/21 5:06 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Hi. > > I am seeing an issue whereby messages get stuck in the /opt/mailman/var/archives/hyperkitty/spool directory. This happens when Mailman's attempt to archive the message gets a non-success status from HyperKitty. The pickled message object gets stored in the above spool/ directory. Each subsequent message to archive retries the messages in the spool. The information from HyperKitty about the non-success is logged in the /opt/mailman/var/logs/mailman.log file and messages tn the spool can be examined with the `mailman qfile` command. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: aborted connection

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/19/22 05:23, Sandor Dibuz wrote: > Am I right expecting that such warnings are harmless and probably come > from timeouts and/or unterminated connections to the DB? > > Feb 19 14:15:18 localhost mariadbd[28859]: 2022-02-19 14:15:18 22154 > [Warning] Aborted connection 22154 to db: 'mailman3' user: 'mailman3' > host: 'localhost' (Got an error reading communication packets) You may be correct in your assumption that these are harmless. I would try to correlate them with access and error logs from the web/wsgi server to get more information. Also see https://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/19135/mysql-error-reading-communica… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: RE in Ban List

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/12/22 16:36, Peter Chubb wrote: > > Hi > I tried to add the regular expression > sales@.* > to the ban list for one of my lists and got: > An error occurred: Invalid Parameter "email": Expected a valid > email address or regular expression, got sales@.*. > > Now, 'sales@.*' _is_ a valid regular expression --- so why did it fail? A regular expression must begin with `^` for the ban list as in `^sales@`. Strings that start with `^` are interpreted as regular expressions and those that don't are interpreted as email addresses. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years

[MM3-users] Disabling mail/news gateway was: Moderation action "None" is misleading

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/5/25 11:42, Thomas Krichel wrote: > > I have no use for that feature anyway. I have not seen a > configuration option to disable it. What I have done is > > # diff /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/modules.py~ /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/modules.py > 149a150,151 >> if(module_name == 'mailman.commands.cli_gatenews'): >> continue As of Mailman 3.3.10 (not yet released) the nntp runner is not started by default. For older releases you can add ``` [runner.nntp] start: no ``` to mailman.cfg -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /mailman3/lists/test2.***/settings/message_acceptance MultipleObjectsReturned .. get() returned more than one EmailAddress -- it returned 2!

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/1/25 08:17, ^m'e via Mailman-users wrote: > > The same problem appeared today with my mariadb-based installation. @Mark, do you have a mysql version of your scripts? I'm not certain as I don't offhand have a way to test, but I think g/psycopg2/s//pymysql/ (i.e. just replace both occurrences of `psycopg2` with `pymysql`) will do it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Postorius no connection to REST API

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/9/21 8:56 AM, Richard Rosner wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>> The REST API is apparently not listening on the host/port this is trying >> to connest to. > > Apparently. The question is why. You are in a better position to answer that than am I. What does `sudo netstat -lntp` show? What does `ps -fwwa|grep rest` show? >>> What is executing the manage.py command to start Django. Is it user list? > > Probably. It depends on who is calling it. I understand too little of the new architecture. But mailman3.service is run as list, mailman3-web.service as root. mailman3-web.service must also run as list. >>> I don't use uwsgi and know little about it so I don't know what the Unix >> domain socket /run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock connection is for, but this >> appears to be some miscunfiguration between apache and uwsgi. >> Normally, in an apache/uwsgi configuration, apache proxies to uwsgi via >> tcp port 8000 and uwsgi is configured with >> [uwsgi] >> uwsgi-socket = 0.0.0.0:8000 > > I too have no experience in the combination ow apache and uwsgi. The only other uwsgi app I'm running is on another server and running under nginx. So, what do you have in your apache config for proxying to uwsgi and what's your uwsgi configuration. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: lmtp runner not starting

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/1/23 12:00, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > > El 1/4/23 a las 20:44, Mark Sapiro escribió: >> ... >> lmtp runner did not start because at some point it had died and >> restarting Mailman won't restart a runner that died and was marked to >> not restart. >> >> You need to stop Mailman and make sure when mailman is stopped that >> there are no files in mailman's var/locks/ directory (remove any that >> are there) and then start Mailman and lmtp runner should start. >> > I stopped mailman and removed all that was in there (there were many > locked registers). Restarted mailman, and it shows the same error that > in my previous mail. > > Now there is two new locked files, one (master.lck) which its content is > the name of the other file. And the second one has the same content: > > master.lck|www.proteccion-civil.eu|9389|7022761192045613065 Those are the master lock that prevents Mailman core from starting when it is running. They should not be removed unless Mailman core is stopped. > will try deleting the content of var/locks and restarting the server If you had completely stopped Mailman core and then started it, lmtp runner should have started. What are the complete log messages from mailman.log following the start? What does `mailman conf -s runner.lmtp` show? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: postorius not displaying mailman logo

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/22/22 02:34, sekamug--- via Mailman-users wrote: > it seems the browser fails to access the directory where the pictures are stored. I have checked and mailman is the owner of that directory. The static directory is accessed directly from your web server, not via proxy to some wsgi server. For example, this list's web UI is served via nginx and we have the equivalent of ``` location /static/ { alias /opt/mailman/web/static/; } ``` For apache, something like ``` Alias /static/ /opt/mailman/web/static/ <Directory "/opt/mailman/web/static/"> Require all granted </Directory> ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Apache+mod_wsgi issue

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/22/22 16:03, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > There is just one more thing - I have this in settings.py: > LOGGING['handlers']['file']['filename'] = > '/opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/mailmanweb.log' And what are LOGGING['handlers']['file']['level'], LOGGING['handlers']['file']['class'] and LOGGING['handlers']['file']['formatter'] > However, the referenced file is ever empty. At what point is it supposed to > record anything? What is logged depends on `level` but even with `DEBUG` not much routine stuff is logged. See https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.2/topics/logging/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: RemoteUserBackend for Mailman3?

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/27/23 06:00, Markus Ludwig Grandpré wrote: > Dear MM§-users, > > is there a good documentation and example how I can learn to enable > > django.contrib.auth.backends.RemoteUserBackend > > for Mailman3? I've already found a detailed documentation (see [1]), but > I do not manage to implement this AuthN mechanism for Mailman3. Can you > help me? Have you configured your web server. If using Apache mod_wsgi, see https://modwsgi.readthedocs.io/en/master/user-guides/access-control-mechani… If proxying to a wsgi server, e.g. uWSGI or gunicorn, see the respective documentation for passing environment variables. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 does not receive gmail-Members!

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/24/23 3:31 PM, Paul Brenner wrote: > If you have access to the outgoing MTA logs > Where can i have access to the MTA logs? Please keep follow-ups on the list (you may need to reply-all). The logs would be on the server on which Mailman is installed. Exactly where depends on the specific MTA, but possibly somewhere like /var/log/mail.log If you don't have access to the server's file system, you can configure bounce processing as I suggested at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Python is updated

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/27/23 1:15 PM, Lars Bjørndal wrote: > [Mark] > >> This appears to be an issue with psycopg2 itself. >> >> What happens if you activate your venv and do >> >> python -c 'import psycopg2' > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "<string>", line 1, in <module> > File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.11/site-packages/psycopg2/__init__.py", > line 51, in <module> > from psycopg2._psycopg import ( # noqa > SystemError: initialization of _psycopg raised unreported exception Your psycopg2 installation is broken. Try to `pip uninstall` it and then install again. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Message is received but is not sent out. Another, similar message, is processed fine.

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/27/23 12:30 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > That said, if the users are unable or unwilling to use UTF-8, it would > be possible to create a codec for "iso-8859-8-i", I don't know how to > do that, and I doubt Mark does. You could ask on > python-list(a)python.org, or file an RFE on Python's GitHub tracker. See https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/90079 filed by me in Nov 2021. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Disable Sign-up per domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/1/25 17:43, Mark wrote: > > If I leave the modified "user_adapter.py" in place, and remove the > ACCOUNT_ADAPTER string from the "settings.py" file all is well ie. the > SignUp pages display as they should. What happens if you put the unmodified "user_adapter.py" in place and add the ACCOUNT_ADAPTER string to the "settings.py" file. I.e. I'm trying to determine if the issue is related to the modifications or if it occurs even with the unmodified "user_adapter.py" with the ACCOUNT_ADAPTER string added to the "settings.py" file. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Why are moderation mails sent to list moderator (if there are any) _and_ then also to the list owner?

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/24/25 11:58, Wikinaut wrote: > Dear all, I am quity puzzled to receive a bunch of mails which are moderators works - I just set up one person as a list moderator - but I do receive the moderation request as well. > > How can this be stopped? Only by modifying code. See the thread at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… for more on this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 09/23/2017 06:52 AM, David Krantz wrote: > Hi. > > Ok, checking the source helped. So I answer my own question: > >> mailman shell > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell >>>> tm = getUtility(ITemplateManager) >>>> tm.set('list:member:regular:footer','mymaillist.example.com','file:///my_absolute_path/list:member:mymaillist.example.com:footer.txt') >>>> commit() You can also put templates in the default search path $var-dir/templates/. Sitewide ones in $var-dir/templates/site/, Domain specific in $var-dir/templates/domains/ and list specific ones in $var-dir/templates/lists/. In this case $var-dir/templates/lists/mymaillist.example.com/en/list:member:regular:footer -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Newbie question 2: Rewriting issue for bounced emails

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/25/21 8:01 AM, William Oliver wrote: > > However, when I try to sent an email *to* the list from either account, > I get the following error: ... > The mail system > > <"lmtp:[mail.libertyfp.org]:8024"@libertyfp.org> (expanded from > <fplist(a)libertyfp.org>): unknown user: > "lmtp:[mail.libertyfp.org]:8024@libertyfp.org" ... > virtual_alias_maps = hash:/opt/mailman/mm/var/data/postfix_lmtp This is the issue. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… for information on configuring Postfix with mailing lists in a virtual domain. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Multiple domain problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/9/23 13:21, Lars Bjørndal wrote: > > I have lists on two domains, example1.com and example2.com. The mail > interface works perfectly. However, connecting a browser to > example1.com, I get the title List index - example1.com, and the web > interface seems to work fine. > > If I connect to example2.com, the title is example2.com, without the > preceding List index. And the body says Page not found. What's in the browser's address bar for that page? What's in Postorius domains view? What's in the Django admin sites view. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: 're' problem is sending messages to queue/shunt for an entire domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/14/24 10:28 AM, Greg Newby via Mailman-users wrote: > It looks like there was a problem in one or more of the legacy banned > emails. > > I deleted all entries in the 'ban' table via PostgreSQL's CLI, and the logs > no longer show the error. Yes, the issue was an invalid regexp in the ban list. > multiple repeat at position 11 Some entry beginning with `^` had something like `**`, `+*`, etc. at position 11. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: custom css?

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 08:28, Jamie McClelland via Mailman-users wrote: > > But... your suggestion led me to /etc/mailman3/mailman-web.py and this > setting: > > COMPRESS_OFFLINE = True > > Which led me to run: > > mailman-web compress > > which resolved a number of CSS problems. Thank you! > > However, my archive page still doesn't look quite like the one on > lists.mailman3.org. There are several issues and merged fixes about missing styling, which are probably not in even the latest Debian packages. See, e.g., https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/merge_requests/?sort=created_d… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Strange bug I can't reproduce

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/14/25 4:00 PM, MegaBrutal via Mailman-users wrote: > > I tried to reproduce it like this: > Reply-To: =?utf-8?b?QUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQQo=?= < > list(a)example.org>, "Some > Name" <a.b0(a)example.com> Folding on white spase within a quoted string is allowed by RFC 5322. > For privacy reasons I can not share the exact copy of the e-mails on the > list, but would it be possible to send it privately so devs could find out > where might be the problem? You can send it off list to me. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Receiving Email from ListName-bounce@Domain for Unsubcribe

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/26 10:09, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Do you mean the notification email from the list is From > test1-bounces@domain? Are you sure it is from "test1-bounces@domain"? > It should be from "test1-owner@domain". Most notifications to users > come from the "LIST-owner" address. Actually, in this case it is From: the list bounces address. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/app/notificati…>. There are other user notices From: the list bounces as well. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1260>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months

[MM3-users] Re: sass error

by Mark Sapiro

On 04/19/2018 02:41 AM, Alexander Klotz wrote: > Hi everybody, > > we tried to make a fresh installation out of the current version > following the readme.md - we encounter the following error trying to do > so. As mentioned elsewhere, 'sass' has been replaced by 'sassc', > however, maybe somewhere there is still a reference to it that may have > been overlooked? The answer to a similar error posted to this list in > August 2017 unfortunately didn't help either. What do you have in your Django settings for COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS? Do you actually have sass or sassc installed? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Walk-thru for Ubuntu Bionic Mailman 3 Full setup

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/12/19 9:53 AM, Michael Sage wrote: >> This seems like something I've seen reported before, but I can't find it now. > >> Is anything logged in the various Mailman, Django, Apache logs? > > Nothing at the time in the Mailman, Mailman web or apache (error or access) logs, I can't find any Django logs I am afraid. I only have standard logging, happy to turn any debugging logging that you think might help The Django log is most likely the one named mailman_web. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: List archives Recent Posts problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/18/20 9:01 AM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > In the last day or so, hitting the Recent page in my list archives results in a spinner and an error message: > > Internal Server Error: /mailman3/hyperkitty/list/trackjunkies(a)pdc-racing.net <mailto:mailman3/hyperkitty/list/trackjunkies@pdc-racing.net>/recent-threads > > AttributeError at /hyperkitty/list/trackjunkies(a)pdc-racing.net <mailto:hyperkitty/list/trackjunkies@pdc-racing.net>/recent-threads > 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'subject' Is this still an issue? If so, see the entire thread at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/…> for a possible solution. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Issue with send mail to my domain in mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/11/22 23:55, Paul Ssekamatte via Mailman-users wrote: > the mta configurations are as follows: > > [mta] > verp_confirmations: yes > verp_personalized_deliveries: yes > verp_delivery_interval: 1 > > incoming: mailman.mta.postfix.LMTP > outgoing: mailman.mta.deliver.deliver > lmtp_host: mail.tld > lmtp_port: 8024 > smtp_host: mail.tld > smtp_port: 25 Your issue is with Postfix. We are not Postfix experts, but to help we'd need to see all the Postfix mail.log messages relating to the failed delivery an also at least the output of `postconf -n`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cron Error: <mailman@gw> /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin runjobs monthly

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/2/23 04:26, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Okay. This is a bit off from my understanding. > > What is the cause and how do I mitigate it? The cause is the monthly hyperkitty update_and_clean_index job runs for a long time, i.e. hours, because it is rebuilding the entire search index so during the time it's running multiple hourly hyperkitty update_index jobs are started and they are competing for the same lock. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/blob/master/example_project/setting… for mitigation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: SSL error while connecting to hyperkitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/28/23 20:50, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 4:56 AM Mark Labeste <marqueejen13(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Do you have new link for this >> http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/prodsetup.html#setting-up-a-wsgi-server >> currently not accessible. >> > > https://docs.list.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setting-up-a-wsgi-s… Where did you find the link to <http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/prodsetup.html#setting-up-a-wsgi-server>? If it's somewhere in our docs or wiki, I want to fix it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Enable Notifications on Mailman3 Threads

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/14/23 11:15, jdamos(a)iu12.org wrote: > In my environment, I am trying to enable notifications on a thread just like this one. When someone responds, I want the list to get a notification and or the person that is getting responded to. I don't understand. I am responding to your post. My response should go to you and all the other list members with delivery enabled. What are you asking for beyond that. If someone responds off list to you, Mailman never sees that response so there's nothing Mailman can do about it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: When QQ email sends emails to the Mailman service set up by oneself, members of the list who use QQ email cannot receive the emails, and it shows that the emails are rejected.

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/10/24 20:28, rqchen(a)cnic.cn wrote: > DMARC mitigations => replace from: with list address . qq email is ok. but I want to keep the sender's email. What is the reason in the rejection notice when mails are rejected? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migrating from old V2 server to new V3 server. Questions.

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/30/24 14:34, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > Mark, thank you for the quick reply. We will most likely need to migrate the lists over a period of time. So the DNS cannot be changed at the moment. Both servers have different FQDNs. Any suggestions on what we can do? If lists on the old and new servers have the same posting address domain you have to configure the incoming MTA on the old (MM 2.1) server to relay mail for the migrated lists to the new server. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Confirmation Email Not Sent

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/31/25 09:57, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > The results of your email command are provided below. > > - Original message details: > From: uuuuuuu <uuuuuuu(a)outlook.com> > Subject: Subscribe > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2025 11:19:47 -0500 > Message-ID: > <BL0PR05MB47717D683FD85A53C15E357CC5BDA(a)BL0PR05MB4771.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> > > - Results: > uuuuuuuu <uuuuuuuu(a)outlook.com> has a pending subscription for llllllllllll(a)gmail.com > > - Done. There was already a pending subscription request from earlier for uuuuuuuu(a)outlook.com so this one was ignored. Go to https://whatever/mailman3/lists/llllllllllll@gmail.com/pending_confirmation and discard the request, then try again. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Is logging.subscribe working in /etc/mailman.cfg?

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/19/19 6:39 PM, Alan So wrote: > I just tested it and observe that, > > 1) If the member send the request to list-leave(a)example.com, the user can confirm and the request is then moderated. The held request is also logged as expected and a notification is also sent to the owner or moderator. However, the owner cannot fulfill his/her request like those under "Subscription requests" in Postorius. The owner have to remove the address manually as a workaround. This is now reported at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/issues/332> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: locked files problem after reboot

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/19/20 1:53 PM, kelly.close(a)lrewater.com wrote: > I'm running into a "stale master lock" error when mailman is trying to start, in this case from an image I created of a working setup. The server was off when I made the image. I've tried running mailman start with the --force option and it times out. Any thoughts on how I can clear this lock manually? I'm testing failure/restore scenarios so I'd like to know that I can bring my system back from an imaged backup. Just remove var/locks/master.lck* -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'mailman_web'

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/31/23 13:14, gordon(a)dickens.com wrote: > I have had mailman3 working great on Debian 11, however, I just upgraded to Debian 12 and, following the upgrade, mailman3 is not working and I am getting the following error message: > > ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'mailman_web' > > Does anybody have any recommendations? How was Mailman installed. Is this the Debian package or installed via https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html or installed some other way? If this is the Debian package, you could ask Debian for help. See https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344 . -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Recently active discussions - Hyperkitty

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/31/24 12:22, Sam Darwin wrote: > > Nothing there. That means if I direct users to visit the site, the page, it appears empty. That's too bad. :-) It should display recent emails. > > What would affect this feature during an archive import? Is it a problem with the import script itself, or with a scheduled cron job, or something else? Would you expect "Recently active discussions" be empty when very recent archives do exist? It's based on the Date: headers of the messages. Are there messages with Date: headers in the last month? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Removing a moderator via the REST API

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/14/24 13:44, Andy Matthews wrote: > > However it doesn't appear that you can remove a person as moderator via the API, per a comment made by Mark on 8/12/24 in this thread: > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… I'm not sure what I said there to make you think that, but first you have to be able to do this via the API because Postorius does it via mailmanclient which uses the API. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient/-/blob/master/src/mailmanclient/re… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Upgrading other python packages than the mailman ones in a venv results in dependency conflicts

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/16/24 03:03, Andreas Vetter wrote: > > OK. So what about --upgrade-strategy eager: > > pip install -U --upgrade-strategy eager mailman postorius django-mailman3 > hyperkitty mailman-web > > Is that allowed/supported? Yes it is recommended if you want to upgrade dependencies and if you have a recent version of pip. Older versions of pip don't support that option but their default behavior is the same as newer versions with --upgrade-strategy eager. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/26/25 12:52 AM, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > Mark, thank you for your reply. I did not mention it, but that is already set and we are still having an issue. Is there anything in the setting I can check? Also, I changed the name of the e-mail in the settings and restarted the mailman3 service. Does anything else need to be restarted? Assuming admin_immed_notify is True (Postorius Admin immed notify is Yes), the notice should be sent. Check Mailman's mailman.log and your MTA logs for clues. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Execute assorted Mailman functions via Mailman shell terminal

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/14/25 14:13, Andy Matthews wrote: > > [pprint(member) for member in mylist.nonmembers.members] > [pprint(member) for member in mylist.owners.members] > [pprint(member) for member in mylist.moderators.members] > [pprint(member) for member in mylist.administrators.members] This is redundant. The administrators roster is just the union of the owners and moderators rosters. > [pprint(member) for member in mylist.members.members] Also, [pprint(member) for member in ...] and [print(member) for member in ...] are equivalent as both pprint(member) and print(member) just print the repr() of the member object. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: After server upgrade debian 11→12 and reinstalling everything in (venv), I got this error when accessing → mailman3/lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/16/25 7:53 PM, Wikinaut wrote: > there is no new ~/mm/var/logs/mailman.log file. I gzip-ed the old one and triggered the bug again. Your original error says that mailmanclient sent a request to mailman core's REST API and received a 500 response. Mailman core should log the error that produces the 500 response. If it doesn't, perhaps there is some permissions issue preventing writing the log. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: What's the difference between (purpose of) reject and ignore

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/25/22 13:22, denis.bitouze(a)univ-littoral.fr wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> They seem so to me, but in any case, if you look at Postorius -> >> Settings -> Message Acceptance -> Default action to take when a >> (non-)member posts to the list, they are described there in much more >> detail. > > OK: not easy to figure out. A tooltip on the corresponding buttons would > be helpful. Agreed. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/551 >>> BTW, no clue about an automatic banishment of emails from discarded >>> messages? >> >> In the pop-up dialog from clicking the subject of a held post you can >> set the sender's moderation status when discarding the post. > > Sorry but I can only see: > > - “--- Set member moderation ---” (non selectable, I guess) > - “Hold for moderation” > - “Reject (with notification)” > - “Discard (no notification)” > - “Accept immediately (bypass other rules)” > - “Default processing” > > and cannot see how I can at the same time “Discard (no notification)” > and “Banish the email of the post's sender”. If you select “Discard (no notification)” from that dropdown and then click Discard, the current message will be discarded and future messages from that sender will be automatically discarded. Is that not what you want? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Simplified installation instructions

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/7/19 4:26 PM, Frank Yappa wrote: > I've looked at installing Mailman3 many times but have never succeeded - > there simply too many instructions. > > Is there a simple guide to get just web front end to Mailman3 where you can > import an existing mailing list simply for viewing? Have you seen <https://hyperkitty.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install.html>? > Which is the easiest system to install Mailman3 on? I have a Debian system > and would be grateful for any pointers showing how to install it . There are Debian packages. See <https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mailman3> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman rewrite the Cc header incorrectly

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/27/20 2:35 AM, Alan So wrote: > > I tried to read RFC5322 again but I am not sure whether I interpret it correctly. The display-name seem allowing folding in the middle. > > 3.2.4 > quoted-string = [CFWS] > DQUOTE *([FWS] qcontent) [FWS] DQUOTE > [CFWS] > > A quoted-string is treated as a unit. That is, quoted-string is > identical to atom, semantically. Since a quoted-string is allowed to > contain FWS, folding is permitted. ... You are correct. I missed that, so the messages created by Outlook are not defective. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Adding list via web form

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/2/22 15:25, fstltna--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Trying to add a list using the web form but I get this: "Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists". Do I need to log in somewhere? I thought I was logged in as admin but maybe not? You need to be logged in as a Django superuser. See the Django admin command createsuperuser. Although if you are not logged in as a superuser, the Create New List button should not appear on the index page. Did you go to https://example.com/mailman3/lists/new/ directly? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Apache+mod_wsgi issue

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/22/22 03:49, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > My challenge now is to get Apache+mod_uwsgi to serve my pages, I assume that's a typo. I.e, mod_wsgi, not mod_uwsgi. > but I am > hitting the error below which has gotten me stuck. > Thanking you in advance for your advice on how to overcome this. > ...> [Thu Dec 22 14:21:23.041064 2022] [wsgi:error] [pid 4288] [remote > 197.232.81.246:15107] ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'settings' Django can't import your settings.py. Is the directory that contains it in your Python path and does that directory contain (an empty) __init__.py? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailing list name with capital letters?

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/26/23 12:00, Mark London wrote: > I guess this is not possible? If you mean create a list with upper case in it's list_id or list posting address, you are correct, but since in your OP you said "Right now, only the first letter can be capitalized." you must be talking about the list's display name. That can be set in Postorius at Settings -> List Identity per my reply at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…>. It can also be set via REST or mailman shell. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: install v3.3.11

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/14/25 08:50, Jose Bernal via Mailman-users wrote: > I'd like to install Mailman v3.3.11. Are there instructions for installing > from pip? If not, is there an alternate way to install this latest > version? When executing: > > pip install mailman==3.3.11 > > I get: ERROR: No matching distribution found for mailman==3.3.11 3.3.11 is still in development and hasn't yet been released to PyPI so if you want to install it in its current state, you have to install from GitLab. pip install git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman@master will install the head of the master branch in GitLab. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Disable automatic bouncing globally?

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/27/25 19:13, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > Is there a way to disabled the automatic bouncing globally on all lists or do I have to do that on each individual list? There is no global setting, but you could use mailman shell to turn it off for all lists. E.g.: ``` $ mailman shell Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. >>> for mlist in getUtility(IListManager): ... mlist.process_bounces = False ... >>> commit() ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot issue commands through email

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 12:39, Ken G. wrote: > > <double_empathy-join(a)thedagora.social>: host > mail.thedagora.social[172.238.182.104] said: 550 5.1.1 > <double_empathy-join(a)thedagora.social>: Recipient address rejected: > User > unknown in virtual mailbox table (in reply to RCPT TO command) ... > virtual_mailbox_domains = > mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf > virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-maps.cf > virtual_transport = lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp This is the problem. Your domain is a virtual_mailbox_domain. You need to configure an alias_domain for your list domain and configure Postfix per https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/23 11:14, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:32 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >> >> I don't know why? What's the content of the template table in the database? >> ``` >> SELECT * FROM template; >> ``` >> > > root@localhost [mailmansuite]> SELECT * FROM template; > Empty set (0.03 sec) Well, that eliminates one possibility. I still don't know why. Mailman should be using all the list: templates from /opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/lists/kictanet.lists.kictanet.or.ke/en/ for messages from the kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke where the target language is English. Is the list's preferred language English and is the recipient's preferred language English? >> That's just wasting space. If you're putting the exact same templates in >> site/, domains/ and lists/, you might just as well delete the ones in >> domains/ and lists/ and Mailman will use the ones from site/. >> > > Well, space is cheap these days. More importantly, it could lead you to edit a template that isn't used because one of the other places is searched first. I would like to figure out what the issue is, but I don't know how to proceed. Have you checked /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/mailman.log for anything relevant? If all else fails and we can't figure this out, you could always set the template(s) in Postorius. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Adding a domsin

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/13/20 1:33 PM, Allan Hansen wrote: > > It’s mostly working but the Postorius page and the ‘noreply’ emails still sport the old domain name. I hav looked at all the py and cfg files where the old name appeared, and they no longer hold the old name. My coadmin now tells me that the database has a table with the old name. Any suggestion as to whether that can cause the issue and if it’s safe to change the table. Look in Mailman's var/templates/directory. I suspect you have a site/en/ subdirectory with templates containing the old name. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: I have issue where it does not send emails on to people in the list I create.

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/30/20 12:35 PM, john_warland(a)hotmail.com wrote: > Hi, thanks for your reply. > > root is not a member of the list but I made it the mailman-suite superuser that you have to set up using the command: > sudo python3 manage.py createsuperuser You are running in development mode so all mail goes to the site admin. > /etc/mailman.cfg > > [devmode] > enabled: yes > recipient: root(a)sandbox.mytest.com -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: LTMP to Postfix problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/18/20 1:23 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > Let me describe the problem a little better. Mail delivery from postfix > to mailman works most of the time. However in the past week or so, lmtp > starts refusing connections via postfix about once a day. I have port > 8024 open in the firewall (UFW). There are no errors in the smtp.log > file. I think restarting Mailman core seems to get things running again. When this happens is the LMTP runner still running or has it died?. Is there anything relevant in mailman.log regarding lmtp runner? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Language Support In Templates

by Mark Sapiro

Mark Sapiro wrote: > > This is a bug in Postorius. I just reported it at > https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/465. I have deleted that bug report as it appears the language attribute in the postorius_emailtemplate table is unused anyway. Notices built from templates are sent by core in the appropriate charset, that of the list's preferred language for admin notices and the either the user's or the list's preferred language for user notices. (Un)sibscribe confirmations are sent in the list's preferred language. In Brian's case the (default) charset for Greek is UTF-8, so if the template was encoded as UTF-8 and the list's preferred language was Greek, it should not have been garbled.

5 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: How To Install Mailman 3 on Debian 10 (Complete Guide)

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/14/21 10:35 AM, Andreas Barth wrote: > > As always, packages in Debian stable are not as new as the latest git > checkout. Or even the latest stable releases from PyPI installed with pip which is what Brian's guide covers. Mailman 3 is relatively new and still evolving. Even the latest packages in Debian sid, not to mention buster, are in some cases behind the PyPI releases. The packages from Debian buster are considered 'stable' but have issues which are fixed in the current PyPI releases. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 reinstall fail, need some help

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/14/22 08:12, Yvan ♞ wrote: > Maybe an idea of my problem as I have pgadmin app installed, it could be > in conflict to create a postgresql db? Your original dbug logs seem to show no issue with postgresql. I don't think people on this list can be much help for installing the Debian package on YunoHost. As I said earlier, I would go first to YunoHost for help and then to Debian if necessary. If you want help from us, I recommend installing as documented at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 not working for mailman21 lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/24/22 9:25 AM, Diana von Bidder wrote: > > I have several entries in /var/lib/mailman3/queue/shunt/ with Aug 21 > timestamps, and several entries in /var/lib/mailman3/queue/shunt/ with > current timestamp (i.e. everytime I ls -l there is a new timestamp with > the current time). For each of the /var/lib/mailman3/queue/shunt/ entries there should be a corresponding log entry in mailman.log (guessing /var/log/mailman3/mailman.log) with the same timestamp logging the exception and traceback and a `SHUNTING` message. These exceptions and tracebacks will indicate what's happening. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: django-mailman3 update causing errors

by Mark Sapiro

On 05/02/2018 07:12 AM, Darren Smith wrote: > So we have pulled all fresh versions of these projects from gitlab as of > last Friday: > > postorius > hyperkitty > django-mailman3 > mailmanclient > > Django is version 1.11 > > When we installed, each of these were placed in a conda virtual > environment. Postorius, Hyperkitty, and django-mailman3 are all still under > a python 2.7 environment. Is that our problem here? Do they need to be in > python 3 now? Yes, that is exactly the issue. The current GitLab branches all require Python >= 3.5 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Weekend releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/10/19 2:58 AM, Paul Arenson wrote: > Thank you. The setup I am using now has Hyperkitty 1.3.0 and I just wanted to confirm. Somewhere I thought I read there is a facility in the Hyperkitty archive interface to format text. Probably I misunderstood, but if there is such a facility, I am not seeing it. Maybe I am looking for something like Tiny Ice and thus can't find it. Markdown rendering of message bodies in Hyperkitty is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/merge_requests/160>. This is installed on <https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/> and <https://mail.python.org/mailman3> but is not yet released. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: I don't get my posts with Gmail

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/18/20 3:35 AM, Massimo Zappalà wrote: > Thanks Stephen for your reply, > I tried creating the filter on GMail as described in Mark's suggested Wiki > > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/I%20don%27t%20get%20my%20own%20posts > > and it worked. Did you read the note at the bottom of that article? Are you sure the message in your inbox is actually the message received from the list with the added headers and perhaps subject prefix and list footer, or is it just a copy of the message as you sent it? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: SpamAssassin header confusion

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/8/21 3:18 PM, skenny(a)scss.tcd.ie wrote: > > On the face of it, it looks like Mailman has removed the X-Spam-* headers. If that's so, I don't understand why. I would be very grateful if anyone could help me figure out what is going on here. This should not be the case. Mailman removes some headers from posts to anonymous lists, but not X-Spam- headers even there. Are you sure you are looking at the raw message headers and not some MUAs rendition of them? I can think of no reason why Mailman would remove those headers. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Filtering signed mails

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/12/21 5:38 AM, Rainer Herbst wrote: > > today I recived a user complain that his messages were rejected with error > "The message's content type was not explicitly allowed" For a message to be rejected with that reason, the messages top level content type must not be allowed. I.e. the list's Pass types is not empty and doesn't pass this message's content type. I'm guessing the message is multipart/signed and that's not allowed. Generally, you want to include 'multipart' in pass types to accept all multipart/* types and filter the sub-parts. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-full question

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/25/22 05:44, flatley wrote: > - to configure the db in venv i would use mailman-web migrate - this > works fine - but mailman-full install does not seem to include mailman-web > or mailman3-web - the mailman info cmd works fine - do i need to > also install mailman-web? i had thought the mailman-full included all > components I'm not sure what it's called in the Debian/Ubuntu mailman-full package, but the `mailman-web` command installed by `pip install mailman-web` is the Django admin command, possibly called `django-admin` or `manage.py` in the mailman-full package. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: (venv) mailman-web migrate (as explained) fails with "django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: allauth.account.middleware.AccountMiddleware must be added to settings.MIDDLEWARE"

by Mark Sapiro

On October 19, 2023 11:54:03 PM PDT, Wikinaut <mail(a)tgries.de> wrote: >The lines are missing in your block here: > >https://docs.list.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#initial-configurati… Those lines are in mailman_web/settings/mailman.py which should be imported in settings.py. I don't know what your original issue was, but adding those lines to settings.py shouldn't make any difference as long as settings.py contains from mailman_web.settings.mailman import * -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Caching problem with templates

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/28/25 22:05, Mark wrote: > > Setting the cache_life to a zero value only writes the expiry date as > "now". The cached file is still there. And it doesn't appear to be > getting overwritten (as expected) when the template is edited. The template caching occurs on retrieval. Editing the template in Postorius does not change the URI in the template table, so a subsequent retrieval still gets the old cached value. The task runner will delete the expired template the next time it runs but with default settings that's up to an hour later. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Internal Server Error: /mailman3/postorius/lists/.../held_messages - humanize: where to put?

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/25/25 15:07, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > > In /usr/share/mailman3-web/settings.py there is: > > INSTALLED_APPS = ( > ... > 'django.contrib.humanize', > ... > ) Then I don't understand why you are getting the error. django.contrib.humanize is required because it is referenced by django-allauth in templates here https://codeberg.org/allauth/django-allauth/src/commit/5baeee79b2915dbb881d… and here https://codeberg.org/allauth/django-allauth/src/commit/5baeee79b2915dbb881d… If django.contrib.humanize is loaded, those references should be satisfied. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Internal Server Error: /mailman3/accounts/fedora/login/

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/19/25 6:28 AM, Bernie Hoeneisen wrote: > Addendum: > > In my case the URL triggering the Error `https://<your_site_url>/mailman3/accounts/fedora/login/?process=login&next=%2Fmailman3%2Faccounts%2Fsignup%2F` is returned by: > > - `https://<your_site_url>/mailman3/accounts/signup/?next=%2Fmailman3%2Faccounts%2Fsignup%2F` I think this issue is caused by fedora dropping support for OpenID and moving to OpenIDConnect. This is https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/issues/83 which is partially fixed by https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/merge_requests/262/ but also requires configuration changes as discussed in the `Migration from Fedora OpenID backend` section of https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/blob/master/README.rst -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/25/2017 01:19 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > What should I do to tell Postfix to use my domain?? for example send emails > using the email account mailing(a)labbrands.com If what you're asking is how to configure Postfix to relay all outbound mail via some other email server, that is a Postfix configuration question. If I thought I could give you a simple answer and that would be the end of it, I'd try, but in your case every answer leads to another question, so I suggest you start here to learn about configuring Postfix <http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 years

[MM3-users] Re: Missing mailman archives?

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/12/20 11:37 AM, Marco Marinello wrote: > Thank you, Mark, it worked. Hyperkitty is now successfully archiving. > I submitted https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/276 to better document this dependency. Maybe it could just be added to Mailman's requirements.txt. OK. > I tried to import the missing mails, unsuccessfully. I saved the .eml files from Thunderbird and then did > cat * >> ../missing.mbox This will not make a .mbox because the 'From ' message separators will be missing. Each message has to have an initial line of the form From user(a)example.com Ddd Mmm dd hh:mm:ss yyyy -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years

[MM3-users] Re: messages go to shunt queue

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/10/20 6:43 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > Hi guys, > > I've faced weird Core behaviour after the last upgrade of the docker > images. All the messages sent to a list now go straight to shunt queue with > the following error in the logs: > > --- > Sep 06 22:41:32 2020 (27) Traceback (most recent call last): ... > File "/usr/lib/python3.8/site-packages/mailman/rules/dmarc.py", line 217, > in is_reject_or_quarantine > for record in txt_rec.items[0].strings) > KeyError: 0 > Sep 06 22:41:32 2020 (27) SHUNTING: > 1599432092.4326646+4cbb58a0dd5d9705946ca583835e63ec175536e3 See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/743>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Member Issue Discovered

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/28/20 11:11 AM, Apollinaris Schöll wrote: > > Most important is to offer an UI to completely delete users for subscribers and list admins. Currently delete account shows this message "Are you sure you want to delete your account? This will remove your account along with all your subscriptions.” > This is not true and needs to be done. Why do you think it's not true? With current Mailman from the HEADs of the GitLab branches, the only thing not removed is posts from the archives. The Django account and the Mailman core user and address records are all removed. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3-web and the django middleware problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/25/24 12:34, Thomas Stein wrote: > > I'm not sure how to add that to my django settings. Adding: > > x = list(MIDDLEWARE) > x.insert(0, 'allauth.account.middleware.AccountMiddleware') > MIDDLEWARE = x > > did not help. Any hints? I don't know how things are arranged in the Debian/Ubuntu package, but you may have a settings.py which at the end does something like ``` try: from settings_local import * except ImportError: pass ``` If that is the case, adding the above snippet to the end of settings_local.py should work. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: hyperkitty threads by month question

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/9/24 11:07 AM, Bryan Fields wrote: > I have installed a testing server for an organization I'm working with > to explore migration from MM2 to MM3. Our main list has archives from > 1992, and when importing the mbox into hyperkitty/mm3 I notice the > archives by month only go back to July 2007, but the messages are there > when I search for specific ones from the old archive in the 1992-2007 > range. See this post and maybe more of that thread which may help. https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Required permissions for mass operations

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/15/24 03:12, mailman3(a)werner.by wrote: > > To give them the moderation permission is quite easy: I add the users to the moderators of the lists. But for the user management I've to add the users to the list owners and then is there no restriction anymore to change the full list configuration. What can I do? I link to a documentation for this would help as well, but I found nothing. There is no role that allows a user to do exactly what you want. Implementation of such a role would be a significant effort. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM2 to MM3 Archives Loading

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/21/24 13:16, Joshua Bushe wrote: > > I’ve successfully converted a list from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3, and most things are working smoothly. However, I’m encountering an issue with the archives in the GUI: > > Problem: The archives don’t load on the overview page. > Odd Behavior: If I use the search function, the archives appear as expected, but they remain invisible on the main overview. > Has anyone encountered this issue or have suggestions for troubleshooting? Are either of the Hide inactive or Hide private boxes checked? Is there anything relevant in Django's logs? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Time Zone Issue in Postorius

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/7/22 21:18, David Newman wrote: > On 2/4/22 10:29 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> The appropriate setting for Django is always `TIME_ZONE = >> 'UTC'`because the time passed from Mailman core is a naive >> datetime.datetime object and is actually UTC. > > Could use clarification on this. Are you referring to the settings.py > file, or something else? Settings.py > Asking because my settings.py currently has: > > # Django time zones > USE_TZ = True > TIME_ZONE = 'America/Los_Angeles' It should be TIME_ZONE = 'UTC' Times passed from Mailman core are naive times, I.e. they don't have time zone info, but they are in UTC. Thus for Django to get the correct time with time zone you need USE_TZ = True (without that, Django will throw an exception about naive times) and the TIME_ZONE to apply is UTC. With those settings, Django has the correct time zone aware times. > and list timestamps appear to work OK both in Hyperkitty and as received > by members' mail clients. Mail sent to list members is not at all affected by this. That involves Mailman core only. Also, time stamps on posts in HyperKitty come from Date: headers or Django internal times. Where you see this manifested is for example when looking at a held message in Postorius and seeing the hold time. which is a time stamp generated by Mailman core. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Source Installation Assistance

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/31/19 1:11 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > My first question is where is the best place to get assistance or ask questions regarding the installation process? I am not sure if mailman-users is that place anymore. Either this list or mailman-developers(a)python.org. Also see <https://wiki.list.org/x/17891998> documenting some of my installation decisions, although it doesn't cover my dropping Whoosh in favor of ElasticSearch. Whoosh is painfully slow at indexing large archives. ElasticSearch is a lot better, but Xapian may be better still. See the thread at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Adding members to a mailman3 mailing list

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/14/20 8:45 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > This question inspired me to run mailman3 directly. It worked! > However, I had to execute mailman3 from: > /usr/libexec/mailman3/mailman > > rather than: > /usr/bin/mailman3 (or just, ... mailman3). > > What is the recommended way to run mailman3 please? This is a Fedora Packaging question. I don't have an answer for that. In my case, the `mailman` command I run invokes a bash file that looks like #!/bin/bash exec /opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/mailman \ -C "/opt/mailman/mm/mailman.cfg" \ $@ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Current status and issue deleting Archives in Mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/2/21 11:59 AM, Seth Seeger wrote: > > >> On Nov 2, 2021, at 2:50 PM, bob B <bader(a)cchmc.org> wrote: >> >> >> $ docker exec -it mailman-web /bin/bash > > I always use "-u mailman" to keep file permissions correct: > > docker exec -it -u mailman mailman-web bash > > That may or may not be your problem, but it might keep you from having permission issues down the road. That is excellent advice. Always run Mailman and Django commands as the Mailman user. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: FW: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /archives/

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/6/21 8:20 AM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote: > What is causing this error please? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: noreply(a)lists.ccalternatives.org <noreply(a)lists.ccalternatives.org> > Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 10:46 PM > To: > Subject: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: /archives/ > > Internal Server Error: /archives/ > > Report at /archives/ > Internal Server Error: /archives/ > > Request Method: GET > Request URL: https://lists.ccalternatives.org/archives/?sort=active%22'! ... > GET: > sort = 'active"\'!' The invalid sort= query fragment -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: No module named 'mailman3hyperkitty'

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/16/22 10:24 AM, Axel Rau wrote: > Still trying to setup my 1st list. > mailman-hyperkitty 1.2.0 is installed. > > Axel > > PS: Backtrace > ... > File "/usr/local/py_venv/mailman_33/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mailman/model/mailinglist.py", line 616, in __init__ > for archiver in config.archivers: > File "/usr/local/py_venv/mailman_33/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mailman/config/config.py", line 280, in archivers > archiver = call_name(class_path) ... > ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'mailman3hyperkitty' This comes from mailman.cfg from the class: definition in the [archiver.hyperkitty] section you probable have something like class: mailman3hyperkitty.Archiver instead of class: mailman_hyperkitty.Archiver -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Multiple domain problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/13/23 02:05, Lars Bjørndal wrote: > > I've now followed the documentation for configuring Apache here: https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#apache-configur…. I want both domains to start mailman3 when contacting example1.com/mailman3 and example2.com/mailman3. I have the sam configuration in both virtualhost section in Apache. For example1.com/mailman3, it works perfectly. For example2.com/mailman3 however, the browser (elinks), reports Host not found: example2.commailman3 e.g. without a slash after the domain name. What could cause this to happen? Something wrong in the web server configuration. I can't begin to guess what without seeing it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Read-Mostly list?

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/10/23 11:02, Stephen Daniel wrote: > I wish to have a list that anyone can read. A few designated people can > post without moderation, and all other users are moderated. > > Is this possible? I don't see a way in the list settings to create users > who are not moderated when the default action is to moderate. Once the user is added as a list member, the list owner or site admin can go to that members settings for the list (click on the user in the members list) and set the user's Moderation to Default Processing. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Sign and encrypt e-mail responses

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/2/24 11:51 PM, Markus Grandpré wrote: > Dear List, > > is it possible to sign and encrypt all e-mail responses from the > Mailman3 server with a digital certificate? Not without significant code changes. Signing alone should not be difficult. Encryption is more difficult if the recipients are going to be able to read the encrypted mail without access to the server's private key. This would require mail to be personalized, which digests currently aren't, and encrypted with the recipient's public key which requires the server to have all those keys. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: xapian db corruption - xapian.DatabaseCorruptError: Couldn't read enough (EOF) ??

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/24 03:27, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > Today, my hourly cron job has generated an error and continues to do so > every hour: > > ``` > Subject: Cron <mailman@gw> /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin runjobs hourly > ``` > > Not sure what caused this. Perhaps a reboot when the cronjob hadn't > completed? And a possible manual remedy would be to wipe the indexed db and > let the cron run again? Or maybe just run `/opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin rebuild_index` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years

[MM3-users] Re: FW: You have been invited to join the ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org mailing list.

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/9/25 07:07, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > The template is named list:user:action:invite. You can create it either > from Postorius or on the filesystem at > /opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/lists/LISTNAME/en/list:user:action:invite.txt Given the age of the OP's system (see https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…) I suspect it's a Debian/Ubuntu package or perhaps another package and it's unlikely that Mailman's var/ directory is /opt/mailman/mm/var/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty import from mailman2

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/24/2017 12:30 PM, Sten Aus wrote: > > But how did you manage to import all the lists and members from Mailman2 > to Mailman3? As I understand Mailman3 does not "support" (by manual) > import right now? Mailman's 'bin/mailman import21' is the tool for this. It has a few issues. It doesn't import DMARC mitigation settings and I've seen one case out of several where it failed to import the list membership. I also once saw and reported <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/270>, but I've imported several lists subsequently without seeing that issue. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman 3 Keeps Forgettings Imported Lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 07/31/2018 07:04 AM, Ryan McClung wrote: > Scratch that. Ran with the corrected script and getting the following: > [root@mailman3(stg) archives]# mailman lists > No matching mailing lists found > > Any thoughts? This > for DIR in $DIRS; do mailman create "${DIR}"; mailman import21 "${DIR}"@afilias.info "${DIR}"/config.pck; is still wrong. The list name for mailman create needs to be fully qualified as in > for DIR in $DIRS; do mailman create ${DIR}(a)afilias.info; mailman import21 ${DIR}(a)afilias.info ${DIR}/config.pck; (Do you look at the output from your script?) -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years

[MM3-users] Re: Open List

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/13/20 12:22 PM, Samir Faci wrote: > So, > > I found a setting to allow me to create an Open List. I assume this is > still doable in MM3 though I can't find the equivalent option. > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-March/065479.html Settings -> Message Acceptance -> Default action to take when a non-member posts to the list. > 2nd question is how do I create a new List Style. I'd like Open- Archived > and Open-NonArchived to be options when creating a new list. See <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/styles/doc…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Extract a list of the lists and the administrators who manage it

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/22/24 06:33, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > pau.baiges(a)csuc.cat writes: > > > Is there a way to extract all the lists and show the administrators > > who manage those lists? > > mailman lists > mailman members -R $ROLE $LIST > > see also "mailman lists -h" and "mailman members -h". And you can do it all with one command like ``` for list in `mailman lists |sed 1d`;do echo ">>> $list"; mailman members -R administrator $list done ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM2 to MM3 on different server. Process to move everything at once.

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/12/24 10:37, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > Not long ago I did this for many lists on quite a few different > domains, the tools will still be the same either way, but you can > run the commands over and over in a loop. Plan thoroughly, check > carefully, log everything. One thing to be aware of when doing multiple lists is to run hyperkitty_import with the --no-sync-mailman option for all but the last run. This will save some time and computing. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to subscribe members without sending unsubscribe message

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/15/25 14:11, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, > > I need to remove subscribed members without sending them an > unsubscription message. Despite of my research I haven't figured out how > to do this using the GUI. With Postorius, you can do it by first setting the list's Automatic Responses -> Send goodbye message to No, and then doing the unsubscribe. From the command line, you can use the `mailman delmembers` command which has options to control the sending of the admin notice and the goodbye message. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Configuring Web Front End

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/21/25 12:24, Dennis Putnam via Mailman-users wrote: > The next layer of the onion is configuring the web front end. > Specifically setting up Django. The documentation seems to make a lot of > assumptions about what I know about Django (which is nothing). I cannot > find anything about what 'settings.py' should look like for mailman3. It > is not even clear where it should go (/opt/mailman/var/etc?). The Django > setup documentation is of no help for mailman3. Am I missing something > in the wiki? See https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#initial-configu… -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Archiving Display Email Signature in Plain-Text

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/5/26 16:31, msok--- via Mailman-users wrote: > It's display correctly on my email in Outlook except in Archive with Microsoft safelink > > [https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lalawli...] This URL is incomplete and goes only to http://www.lalawli which is obviously invalid. > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lalawl… This URL takes me to the home page at https://www.lalawlibrary.org/ which gives me no information about your issue. > By the way, I'm not sure to send you a whole message in here. How about a link to the HyperKitty message with the issue? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: {Spam?} Re: Installation Wooes

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/3/20 10:04 PM, Samir Faci wrote: > > # Where the LMTP server listens for connections. Use 127.0.0.1 instead of > # localhost for Postfix integration, because Postfix only consults DNS > # (e.g. not /etc/hosts). > lmtp_host: lists.domain.org > lmtp_port: 8024 Why, in spite of the comment, do you have lmtp_host: lists.domain.org and not lmtp_host: 127.0.0.1 Note that lmtp_host: 127.0.0.1 lmtp_port: 8024 are the defaults. > So, now it's finally working but here's a question. Does 8024 need to be > publically accessible from the outside? No. Port 8024 is only for LMTP delivery from Postfix to Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: migration plan and auto responder

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/21/20 12:02 PM, Mohsen Masoudfar wrote: > Hi, > > The short version of this question is: > > How May I setup on Mailman2 to send an auto response to the member who sent an email to the list, but do not send the original email to any list member? In the web admin UI, go to Auto-responder, set autorespond_postings to Yes and set your message in autoresponse_postings_text. You probably also want to set Privacy options... -> Sender filters -> member_moderation_action to Discard and on Membership Management... -> Membership List under Additional Member Tasks, set everyone moderated. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years

[MM3-users] Re: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Service Unavailable

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/4/21 11:44 AM, dancab(a)caltech.edu wrote: > > One last question. One more question. > > I'm testing a custom footer via the template creation tool in Postorius. > > However my messages aren't being delivered when I have the template activated. > > If I delete the template then suddenly my message goes through. > > I see the out queue folder seems to have the message stuck. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/760> Remove the Postorius template and install it in the file system as in <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/760#note_521886834> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problem with debian uipgrade

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/8/22 10:10, Lars Schimmer wrote: > Hi! > > Today I tried a mailman3 upgrade of the debian packages and I got this > error: > > django.db.migrations.exceptions.NodeNotFoundError: Migration > hyperkitty.0007_allauth_20160808_1604 dependencies reference nonexistent > parent node ('socialaccount', '0003_extra_data_default_dict') > > Anyone has a idea howto fix those? This is a reference to a migration in django-allauth. is django-allauth installed. If so, what version? What does the database query ``` SELECT app, name FROM django_migrations WHERE app = 'socialaccount'; ``` show. It should be ``` app | name ---------------+------------------------------ socialaccount | 0001_initial socialaccount | 0002_token_max_lengths socialaccount | 0003_extra_data_default_dict (3 rows) ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to setup mailman?

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/17/20 8:50 AM, Jacob Bargery wrote: > > Note: Using instructions and not installing from source means that a lot of people can't help you with problems you come across during install. I found people still try to help but it's much harder. I will link the options from the Mailman website, however I found them difficult to follow when I was trying. > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/install.html There is also <https://wiki.list.org/x/17891998> which details my experience in installation and configuration of Mailman from source on multiple servers including the one supporting this list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years

[MM3-users] Re: Open Subscription Policy

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/5/20 4:52 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > I have a question regarding the use of an open subscription policy. What > is the reasoning behind such a policy? Is this something for an > organization that runs a Mailman 3 instance on a private network? > It is strongly discouraged, and yes, it really only makes sense for a Mailman instance that is not exposed on the public internet. In MM 2.1, a site has to enable open subscribes by putting ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes in mm_cfg.py. Without this, list owners don't have the option. We should probably consider something similar for MM 3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to store additional information about lists?

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/25/21 11:34 AM, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Re Systers, I found > https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~systers/systers/stable/files > > This is however mm2 based. Is this what everybody hinted at, or is > there also a mm3 clone I failed to find yet? What you found looks like the right thing, but it appears to not be a complete Mailman but rather just the Systers added and modified files, and yes it is based on an old Mailman 2.1. As far as I know, none of this has ever been migrated to Mailman 3. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman core: basic internationalization howto?

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/06/2017 07:34 AM, thor.rustad(a)gmail.com wrote: > I made it work, sort of, after creating the directory structure templates/site/no and put the templates inside the 'no' folder. However, I can't make it work without setting the language manually for each list first. New lists are created with English as their language, breaking the creation of welcome mail. Also, I can not add members to the lists from Postorius. I want all new lists to use utf-8 without having to use mailman shell. How can it be done? Put [mailman] default_language: no in your mailman config. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: ARC support

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/5/19 2:21 PM, Marvin Gülker wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just stumbled over an in-progress standard called ARC. ... > > Will Mailman at some point support this new standard? There was a GSOC project for this a couple of years ago resulting in <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/merge_requests/204>, but this is still not ready. There is another MR at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/merge_requests/252> which also needs more review/updating. And, there is an open issue at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/396>. So yes, we fully expect that MM 3 will support ARC at some point, but we're not there yet. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Github auth deprecated API

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/14/20 8:11 AM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: > The version of mailman3 I'm running apparently uses a deprecated API for > GitHub authentication. Does anyone know if this has been fixed? I > couldn't find an issue for it on the postorius issue tracker. It's not in the Postorius tracker because it's not a Postorius issue. The issue is with django-allauth in the current 0.41.0 release. It is fixed in the django-allauth GitHub repository by <https://github.com/pennersr/django-allauth/pull/2458> You can apply the patch from that PR to your django-allauth installation to fix this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 3 months

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