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[MM3-users] Re: migration

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/30/21 12:06 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > > Is there a way that I can "dump" the configuration from an existing > mailman3 server, and "import" it into a new instance? I'd really like > to avoid re-doing all of the configuration, etc, as there are quite a > few lists and everything is set up pretty much the way I want it. If you use the same database manager it should be no problem to get a dump of the existing Mailman database to load into the new instance, or if these are on the same server, just point the new instance to the existing database. In either case, the database should be loaded and the Django commands `migrate`, collectstatic`, `compress` and `compilemessages` run[1] before starting Mailman services. Mailman core will run any necessary updates to its database upon startup. You may also need to rebuild the HyperKitty search index with the `update_index` Django command, but you may be able to use the existing one if the search engine is the same. [1] See https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html?highlight=colle… et seq. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: mail loops back to myself

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/12/25 05:28, Florian Sukup wrote: > > When I look into the log, first the smtpd receives the message from my > mail client. Then the email is queued. > And then the smtp initiates a TLS layer to send it to the smtpd on the > same machine. For my understanding this cannot be correct. The smtpd at > first should hand it to mailman and not relay it to itself. Is that > correct? That is not correct. Postfix should receive the initial connect and smtp for the list and then transport_maps should tell it to relay the message via lmtp to the configured lmtp_host and lmtp_port (127.0.0.1:8024 per your previously posted mailman.cfg). You have also posted that Postfix main.cf contains transport_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp What is the content of that file? In particular does it contain mylists(a)lists.yyy.com lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 and is the timestamp of /var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp.db >= that of /var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp, and have you restarted/reloaded Postfix since updating main.cf? And, is Mailman core running and listening on port 8024? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: How to upgrade to 3.10

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/2/26 18:21, Paul Tomblin via Mailman-users wrote: > I installed 3.9 with pip last week, but i want to upgrade to 3.10. But > pip install -U mailman postorius django-mailman3 hyperkitty mailman-web > doesn't upgrade it. Mailman core 3.3.10 was released to PyPI in October 2024 at any time thereafter `pip install mailman` should have installed Mailman 3.3.10. > Requirement already satisfied: mailman in ./venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (3.3.9) I don't know why 3.3.9 would have been installed at all. > Collecting mailman > Using cached mailman-3.3.10-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (2.4 kB) But it looks like here it's trying to install 3.3.10. > Requirement already satisfied: postorius in ./venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (1.3.13) > ... a bunch of these ... > INFO: pip is looking at multiple versions of mailman to determine which version is compatible with other requirements. This could take a while. > Requirement already satisfied: python-dateutil>=2.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman) (2.9.0.post0) > ...a bunch more... Is there any conflict reported in this `bunch more` to force 3.3.9? What if you do `pip install mailman==3.3.10`? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Implicit destination

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/26/2018 12:54 PM, David Krantz wrote: > > I have a spam-problem like anyone else. Most of the spam my listserver > receives has some kind of impilict destination so the implicit rule > catches most of the spam that way. This is fine. What is not so fine, > however, is that this results in a moderation message to the sender. > I'd like to stop that so that the spammer has no confirmation that the > mail was received. That is not the issue. Sending the held message notice to a spammer, if it reaches the spammer, is probably inconsequential. The issue is that virtually always in spam the sender address is either undeliverable or is the address of an innocent 3rd party. Sending these notices to innocent 3rd parties is called backscatter and is a bad thing. To avoid this backscatter, you can set the list's respond_to_post_requests attribute to False. There are two problems here. One is this setting is not currently exposed in Postorius, and the other is this will also stop desired held message notices such as those from list members. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: content filtering in version 3.1

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/20/19 1:31 AM, Dieter Leupold via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for your information. But, how I said, I'm new to MM3 and I have > problems with the syntax of the mailman shell. Please, could you give me > an example to set "pass_types" via MM-Shell? > Thank you very much! The documentation of Mailman shell is at <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/docs/shell.ht…>. A simple example in for setting pass_types is ``` $ bin/mailman shell -l list(a)example.com Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell The variable 'm' is the list(a)example.com mailing list >>> m.pass_types <generator object MailingList.pass_types at 0x7fd7e1489840> >>> list(m.pass_types) [] >>> m.pass_types = ['multipart', 'text/plain'] >>> list(m.pass_types) ['multipart', 'text/plain'] >>> At this prompt you can enter commit() to commit your changes, abort() to reverse your changes or control-D to commit and exit. You can also enter exit() to exit, but your changes will not be saved unless you have done a prior commit() -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Correcting name spellings in a list

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/23/21 9:40 PM, Morris Jones wrote: > I typo'd some full names in a mailing list. I want to correct them ... > > I can't see a way to do that in the Member Options, so I thought I'd try > "remove" and re-add, either from the command line or the UI. > > But the name gets readded with the typo intact. :( > > Is there a way to fix it without writing SQL? You can do it with mailman shell. The basic issue is the display name is a property of the user or the user's address, which ever is subscribed to the list. When you add a previously unknown user to a list, Mailman creates these user and address records, but they belong to the user, not the list. There are some threads around this at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/…>, <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/…> and a somewhat protracted one at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Special Characters Issue when using Wordpress HTML messages

by Mark Sapiro

ryan.anderson.4--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. I changed the language.master in the schema.cfg. > > [language.master] > # Template for language definitions. The section name must be [language.xx] > # where xx is the 2-character ISO code for the language. > > # The English name for the language. > description: English (USA) > # And the default character set for the language. > charset: utf-8 > # Whether the language is enabled or not. > enabled: yes And I replied but didn't include the list. My reply, reconstructed from memory: That change together with restarting Mailman core should allow those characters unreplaced as long as it isn't overridden in mailman.cfg. Note that it will apply only to new messages and not to previously archived ones. However, there are two issues with editing the master this way. It will affect the default settings for all languages, and it will be undone with any upgrade. It is much better to add ``` [language.en] charset: utf-8 ``` to your mailman.cfg -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Include receipant address as a variable

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/4/22 09:22, chucka(a)blackforest-co.com wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply - I'm going to need a bit of schooling. I've looked at the page you point to and ... I'm lost - do I need to create a NL template? Can you give an example? &lt a href=https://mysite.com/my.pdf? &gt CLICK HERE ... The bad news is list headers and footers are plain text so HTML tags don't work. The good news is that many if not most MUAs will render things that look like URLs as clickable links. So, if you create a list:member:regular:header or list:member:regular:footer footer template that contains a line like ``` Go to https://mysite.com/my.pdf?$user_email to ... ``` That will replace the $use_email part with the recipient's lower cased email address. If you want the case-preserved email address, use `$user_delivered_to` instead of `$user_email`. For this to work, the list's Settings -> Alter Messages -> Personalize setting must be `individualize` or `full`. Also see https://wiki.list.org/x/4030707 for some caveats. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: No option 'postmap_command' in section: 'postfix'

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/30/23 10:12, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > So, since the creation of that file is prominent in the doco, maybe a note > can be added to that effect? I'm looking at https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… and my thought is at the paragraph Regular Expression tables remove the additional dependency of having postmap command available to Mailman. If you want to use regexp or Regular Expression tables, then add the following to Postfix’s main.cf file: add another section header Regular Expression Tables ------------------------- and change that text to Regular Expression tables are less efficient than hash tables, but they remove the additional dependency of having ``postmap`` command available to Mailman. If you want to use ``regexp`` or Regular Expression tables, then add the following to Postfix's ``main.cf`` file My thought is adding the section header makes it more clear that everything down to the Postfix + Dovecot section is for Regular Expression Tables and adding the `less efficient` phrasing notes the down side. What do you think? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: mail loops back to myself

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/11/25 13:51, Florian Sukup wrote: > I have now elimiated reverse.rrr.com. But there isn't much change: > > vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv > Jun 11 22:19:57 arvak postfix/relay/smtp[1015580]: initializing the > client-side TLS engine > Jun 11 22:19:57 arvak postfix/smtpd[1015581]: initializing the > server-side TLS engine > Jun 11 22:19:57 arvak postfix/smtpd[1015581]: connect from > host.xxx.com[m.y.i.p] > Jun 11 22:19:57 arvak postfix/relay/smtp[1015580]: warning: host > host.xxx.com[m.y.i.p]:25 greeted me with my own hostname host.xxx.com > Jun 11 22:19:57 arvak postfix/relay/smtp[1015580]: warning: host > host.xxx.com[m.y.i.p]:25 replied to HELO/EHLO with my own hostname > host.xxx.com > Jun 11 22:19:57 arvak postfix/relay/smtp[1015580]: 29FCF5F867: > to=<mylists(a)lists.yyy.com>, relay=host.xxx.com[m.y.i.p]:25, delay=0.2, > delays=0.06/0.01/0.13/0, dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for > lists.yyy.com loops back to myself) > Jun 11 22:19:57 arvak postfix/smtpd[1015581]: disconnect from > host.xxx.com[m.y.i.p] ehlo=1 quit=1 commands=2 I think you need to add host.xxx.com to mydestinations. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 3 weeks

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