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[MM3-users] Re: mailman addmember/syncmember commands print undecoded UTF-8 [ADD] or [DEL] mail addresses in its messages like "[ADD] =?utf-8?q?John_=....."

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/5/25 12:13, Wikinaut wrote: > I have such entries again in the postorius list "=?utf-8?q?Alexandro....", even after having deleted the user twice (there were no entries), the text file has nothing special, uchardet says "UTF8". Presumably these are being picked up from an email header that has the display name properly RFC 2047 encoded but then not decoded for the database address or user record. This could be a bug, but without knowing the exact scenario that results in these encoded display names, it's difficult to know where the bug might be. In what postorius list (members or non-members) are you seeing these? Are there log messages about them in the subscribe log (by default written to mailman.log)? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: About to Install MM3 -- Seeking clarification

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/21/22 09:56, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:52:03 -0700 > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > >> Can you successfully start mailman (or run any mailman commands) >> with, e.g. ``` >> /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman start >> >> or >> >> /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman info >> ``` >> without activating the venv? >> > > Yes. All those are working without activating venv. On my test installation with /etc/systemd/system/mailman3.service installed per https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#starting-mailma… systemctl start|stop|status mailman3 all work. Assuming ``` python3 -c 'from pkg_resources import load_entry_point' ``` (not in your venv) returns no error, try replacing /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman with ``` #!/opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 # EASY-INSTALL-ENTRY-SCRIPT: 'mailman==3.3.5','console_scripts','mailman' __requires__ = 'mailman==3.3.5' import re import sys from pkg_resources import load_entry_point if __name__ == '__main__': sys.argv[0] = re.sub(r'(-script\.pyw?|\.exe)?$', '', sys.argv[0]) sys.exit( load_entry_point('mailman==3.3.5', 'console_scripts', 'mailman')() ) ``` Or in yours posted at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… replace everything from the first `try:` through `globals().setdefault(...)` with ``` from pkg_resources import load_entry_point ``` and see if that helps. Actually, if I replace mine with yours, it still works with systemctl, but this may be dependent on the python version (mine is 3.8.10). I'm really only guessing here, but this in your traceback ``` Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld mailman[782]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman", line 25, in importlib_load_entry_point Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld mailman[782]: return next(matches).load() Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld mailman[782]: StopIteration Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE ``` seems to say that the `return next(matches).load()` is raising `StopIteration` and that is the issue, so removing that stuff from /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman may help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Is there a way to see all the list's held messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/22 02:47, Martin Lorenz wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 10/11/22 07:04, bob B via Mailman-users wrote: > [...] >> run mailman' mean you are an admin of the server on which it is >> installed? If so, you can do this in mailman shell, but what do you > > in my case: yes > >> want to see? I.e., just a summary by list of subject, sender and hold >> reason > > how would I do this? For example, a `mailman shell` interaction like this ``` $ /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman shell Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. >>> for mlist in getUtility(IListManager): ... requests = IListRequests(mlist) ... first = True ... for request in requests.held_requests: ... key, data = requests.get_request(request.id) ... if first: ... first = False ... print(mlist.list_id) ... print(f"""\ ... Sender: {data['_mod_sender']} ... Subject: {data['_mod_subject']} ... Date: {data['_mod_hold_date']} ... Reason: {data['_mod_reason']} ... """) ... ``` > Additional question: how would I set/change the owner of a number of lists identifyable by a regular expression? Something like this: ``` >>> import re >>> newowner = 'newowner(a)example.com' >>> user_manager = getUtility(IUserManager) >>> # get the address record for the new owner >>> address = user_manager.get_address(newowner) >>> # create one if necessary >>> if address is None: ... user = user_manager.create_user(newowner) ... address = list(user.addresses)[0] ... >>> for mlist in getUtility(IListManager): ... if not re.search('the criterion', mlist.list_id): ... continue ... # remove existing owners --- for owner in mlist.owners.members: ... owner.unsubscribe() ... # add new owner ... mlist.subscribe(address, MemberRole.owner) ... >>> commit() >>> ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Error Curiosity

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/20 4:18 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > Some sort of auto-discard procedure after a number of retries? Is it > possible to detect a message with a null characters and automatically > discard them? Do such messages make it into the thread table? The message has been delivered to the list, but it is not archived. The list post has an Archived-At: header with a URL, but the message isn't there at all. The only way to get it archived is to correct the message defect. Thus, I don't think it's good to just discard the message at that point. I'm fine with moving out of or not queueing it in the first place in var/archives/hyperkitty/spool, but I think it should be preserved somewhere, say in var/archives/hyperkitty/bad, and along with that, some kind of notice sent to the site admin so bad messages don't just accumulate without being seen. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Maximum number of recipients Setting

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/3/21 1:45 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > I have run several tests. It looks like on the 'Maximum number of > recipients' setting, a 2 means 1. If I set it to 2, I can have the > listname(a)listdomain.com only. If I have a CC, it comes to me for > moderation. If I set it to a 3, I can send out to > listname(a)listdomain.com plus a CC. If I set it to 3 and add 2 CC's plus > the listname(a)listdomain.com address, it comes to me for moderation. I understand it's confusing, but it's been that way since the beginning of Mailman 2.1. The docs at <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rules/docs…> say "For backward compatibility, the message must have fewer than the maximum number of explicit recipients." I agree the description in Postorius could be clarified see <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/515>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 Setup

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/5/22 06:26, George R. Kasica wrote: > Hello: > > I'm in the process of setting up Mailman3 on Ubuntu 20.04. I have the following Environment, and please ask if I left something needed out: > Postfix > Apache2 > MySQL > Mailman3 (all 3 bits mailman3, mailman3-web, python-mailman-hyperkitty) > The install SEEMS to have worked, but I'm looking for a guide for setup now. I used to run 2.1 about 18 months ago, but the server failed, and I never reinstalled it. I figured now, with a newish Ubuntu 20.04LTS Server, I'd go the mailman3 route...I've seen MANY posts of issues getting MM3 working with 20.04. Should I go back to 2.1, or what is the best way to get mailman-3 configured? You should definitely go with Mailman 3. The docs are at https://docs.list.org/ (redirects to https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/) I suggest you start by looking at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years

[MM3-users] Re: Importing mbox files into archive defect with lines with From

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/19/23 2:25 AM, Alex Schuilenburg via Mailman-users wrote: > > Prefixing the line with '>' allows the hyperkitty_import to partially succeed - partially as the line and everything below it is omitted from message in the archive. Presumably because the archiver thinks the remainder is a quote which it omits? > > Prefixing with a single whitespace was the best work-around, since the renderer ignores it when viewing the message from the archive. As discussed earlier in this thread, issues with unescaped 'From ' lines in message bodies exist because of the format of *nix mbox files where lines beginning with 'From ' are message separators by definition. Escaping such lines by prefixing them with `>` is a defacto standard. As far as this causing HyperKitty to ignore the rest of the message is concerned, I do not see that with current HyperKitty. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/3/25 08:01, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > > Anyway, I still need help. I migrated my mailman2 to mailman3 per the documentation and all seemed to go well. However, now that I have the web UI working, no lists show up. Indeed, using mysql, all the relevant tables in mailman db are empty. How do I figure out if the import really worked when there are no error messages? If `mailman import21` didn't report any errors, it really did the import. Likewise if `mailman-web hyperkitty_import` didn't report any errors, it really did the import. If you followed https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html your database is postgreSQL, not MySQL. What do you have in the [database] section in /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg and in the DATABASES definition in /etc/mailman3/settings.py? Based on https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… I think you have more than one configuration and things are confused between them. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Opinions wanted.

by Mark Sapiro

There is currently a merge request at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/merge_requests/345> to hide the "Results per page:" dropdown from some Postorius and HyperKitty pages when the full list of items (lists) is on the page. I.e. when the number of items is <=10 and the "Results per page:" is the default 10, don't display the dropdown. However there is some controversy over whether this should also apply say when the number of items is > 10 but still is on one page. So the question is if we are going to hide the dropdown when "Results per page:" is the default 10 and there are <= 10 items so all are on the page, should we also hide it when say "Results per page:" is 25 and there are 22 items all on the page. Your opinion on this is requested via a reply in this thread. See the merge request (link above) for arguments pro and con. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: From address of subscription notifications

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/26/19 2:11 PM, worik wrote: > > When I subscribe some body to to a list I on I get a notification that > says it comes from changeme(a)example.com > > As far as I can tell no subscribers are getting mail with that, so this > is not a crises. But it is untidy and I cannot find where to change it. > > SERVE_FROM_DOMAIN is set in the mailman-web/environment section of > docker-compose.yaml (I am using the docker distribution...) You set it in your mailman.cfg. As it says in mailman/config/schema.cfg > [mailman] > # This address is the "site owner" address. Certain messages which must be > # delivered to a human, but which can't be delivered to a list owner (e.g. a > # bounce from a list owner), will be sent to this address. It should point to > # a human. > site_owner: changeme(a)example.com -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 3 months

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