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[MM3-users] Re: alembic version

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/6/26 23:22, Thomas Krichel wrote: > ... > Mar 07 07:01:03 darni mailman[1209747]: alembic.util.exc.CommandError: Can't locate revision identified by '8cc1f79f4459' ... > root@darni ~ # sudo -u postgres psql -d mailman3 > psql (18.2 (Debian 18.2-1)) > Type "help" for help. > > mailman3=# SELECT version_num FROM alembic_version; > version_num > -------------- > 8cc1f79f4459 > (1 row) That's not what it's complaining about. You have to look at /usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/mailman/database/alembic/versions. Those are all the alembic migrations. Each one has a Revision ID: and a Revises: making a chain. There are tools to display that chain. With your venv active do ``` alembic -c /usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/mailman/config/alembic.cfg history ``` What does that show? I suspect there is some issue between the database and the code. The version_num in the alembic_version table and the migrations. The version_num is the current migration so that `mailman-web migrate` knows which additional migrations to apply. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Migration from old server to new server failed

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/16/24 07:12, Helio Loureiro wrote: > - start mailman3 and mailman-3web > - run mailman3-web migrate You should run mailman3-web migrate when mailman-3web is not running. > django.db.utils.OperationalError: (1050, "Table > 'hyperkitty_mailinglist_moderators' already exists") > > I tried to drop the table, but then it complained about another one. I > dropped all the complained tables and as result hypperkitty never > started. So I went back to see why the first error happened. The errors occurred because you had recently added tables in your database so they couldn't be added by the migrations. Dropping the tables was the correct thing to do. Did you ultimately successfully run all the migrations? When you say `hypperkitty never started`, what exactly does that mean? What happens when you try to access the archives? Can you access postorius? Are any errors logged in mailman3-web's log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: sync_members via email

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/20/25 13:45, kbaumann(a)chicagoiww.org wrote: > I can use email to get a list of members: > > To: mylist-request(a)lists.theserver.org > Subject: who (password) The password argument is Mailman 2.1 only. If provided for Mailman 3 it will result in an error Unrecognized or invalid argument(s): (password) > Any chance that a sync_members could be accomplished in a similar fashion? Looks like it's only available from the console, but I'm asking anyway to be sure. You are correct, there is no email sync members function. The issue for this is authentication. As far as the who command is concerned, the only authentication is whether the sender is authorized to see the result. In the case of a spoofed sender, no harm is done as the result will be sent to the sender address. The same method could not be used for syncing members because if the sender were spoofed, the syncing would be done. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-core installation on debian stretch/maria-db

by Mark Sapiro

On 03/10/2018 01:53 PM, Wolfgang Bock wrote: > > Hi, > > I need your help: I installed mailman3 on a debian stretch environment > and faced following problems. How? Did you install <https://packages.debian.org/stretch-backports/mailman3-core>? If so, these are probably issues with the Debian package. You may find <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/455> to be of interest. If you installed Mailman some other way, How? > 1. On "mailman start" I got the error message: > Starting Mailman's master runner > /usr/bin/python3: can't open file '/sbin/master': [Errno 2] No such file > or directory Where is it? What does 'which master' show? > 2. connection to maria-db > In debian stretch maria-db is running. In my mailman.cfg I set: > [database] > class: mailman.database.mysql.MySQLDatabase > url: > mysql+pmysql://#username#:#user-pawo#@localhost/#databasename#?charset=utf8&use_unicode=1 should that be mysql+pymysql ? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Member Issue Discovered

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/29/20 5:17 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > On 10/29/20 4:27 AM, Alex Schuilenburg via Mailman-users wrote: >> On 29/10/2020 01:57, Brian Carpenter wrote: >>> With Mailman 3, every list owner has the ability to remove a reply in >>> a thread, a complete thread, and even the entire archives. That is a >>> welcome difference from MM2 in my opinion. >> >> A very welcome difference, only I don't see this option in the web >> interface of my debian 3.2.1 installation. Is this a shell only >> option, 3.3 feature or configuration option I have missed? > It is not a shell option. It can be done via Hyperkitty but I am not > sure when that feature showed up. Actually, with current HyperKitty, only site admins can remove messages or threads or the archive. The ability for list owners to do it is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/261>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman addmember/syncmember commands print undecoded UTF-8 [ADD] or [DEL] mail addresses in its messages like "[ADD] =?utf-8?q?John_=....."

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/5/25 12:13, Wikinaut wrote: > I have such entries again in the postorius list "=?utf-8?q?Alexandro....", even after having deleted the user twice (there were no entries), the text file has nothing special, uchardet says "UTF8". Presumably these are being picked up from an email header that has the display name properly RFC 2047 encoded but then not decoded for the database address or user record. This could be a bug, but without knowing the exact scenario that results in these encoded display names, it's difficult to know where the bug might be. In what postorius list (members or non-members) are you seeing these? Are there log messages about them in the subscribe log (by default written to mailman.log)? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months

[MM3-users] Re: About to Install MM3 -- Seeking clarification

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/21/22 09:56, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:52:03 -0700 > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > >> Can you successfully start mailman (or run any mailman commands) >> with, e.g. ``` >> /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman start >> >> or >> >> /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman info >> ``` >> without activating the venv? >> > > Yes. All those are working without activating venv. On my test installation with /etc/systemd/system/mailman3.service installed per https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#starting-mailma… systemctl start|stop|status mailman3 all work. Assuming ``` python3 -c 'from pkg_resources import load_entry_point' ``` (not in your venv) returns no error, try replacing /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman with ``` #!/opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 # EASY-INSTALL-ENTRY-SCRIPT: 'mailman==3.3.5','console_scripts','mailman' __requires__ = 'mailman==3.3.5' import re import sys from pkg_resources import load_entry_point if __name__ == '__main__': sys.argv[0] = re.sub(r'(-script\.pyw?|\.exe)?$', '', sys.argv[0]) sys.exit( load_entry_point('mailman==3.3.5', 'console_scripts', 'mailman')() ) ``` Or in yours posted at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… replace everything from the first `try:` through `globals().setdefault(...)` with ``` from pkg_resources import load_entry_point ``` and see if that helps. Actually, if I replace mine with yours, it still works with systemctl, but this may be dependent on the python version (mine is 3.8.10). I'm really only guessing here, but this in your traceback ``` Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld mailman[782]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman", line 25, in importlib_load_entry_point Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld mailman[782]: return next(matches).load() Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld mailman[782]: StopIteration Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE ``` seems to say that the `return next(matches).load()` is raising `StopIteration` and that is the issue, so removing that stuff from /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman may help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Is there a way to see all the list's held messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/22 02:47, Martin Lorenz wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 10/11/22 07:04, bob B via Mailman-users wrote: > [...] >> run mailman' mean you are an admin of the server on which it is >> installed? If so, you can do this in mailman shell, but what do you > > in my case: yes > >> want to see? I.e., just a summary by list of subject, sender and hold >> reason > > how would I do this? For example, a `mailman shell` interaction like this ``` $ /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman shell Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. >>> for mlist in getUtility(IListManager): ... requests = IListRequests(mlist) ... first = True ... for request in requests.held_requests: ... key, data = requests.get_request(request.id) ... if first: ... first = False ... print(mlist.list_id) ... print(f"""\ ... Sender: {data['_mod_sender']} ... Subject: {data['_mod_subject']} ... Date: {data['_mod_hold_date']} ... Reason: {data['_mod_reason']} ... """) ... ``` > Additional question: how would I set/change the owner of a number of lists identifyable by a regular expression? Something like this: ``` >>> import re >>> newowner = 'newowner(a)example.com' >>> user_manager = getUtility(IUserManager) >>> # get the address record for the new owner >>> address = user_manager.get_address(newowner) >>> # create one if necessary >>> if address is None: ... user = user_manager.create_user(newowner) ... address = list(user.addresses)[0] ... >>> for mlist in getUtility(IListManager): ... if not re.search('the criterion', mlist.list_id): ... continue ... # remove existing owners --- for owner in mlist.owners.members: ... owner.unsubscribe() ... # add new owner ... mlist.subscribe(address, MemberRole.owner) ... >>> commit() >>> ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Error Curiosity

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/11/20 4:18 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > Some sort of auto-discard procedure after a number of retries? Is it > possible to detect a message with a null characters and automatically > discard them? Do such messages make it into the thread table? The message has been delivered to the list, but it is not archived. The list post has an Archived-At: header with a URL, but the message isn't there at all. The only way to get it archived is to correct the message defect. Thus, I don't think it's good to just discard the message at that point. I'm fine with moving out of or not queueing it in the first place in var/archives/hyperkitty/spool, but I think it should be preserved somewhere, say in var/archives/hyperkitty/bad, and along with that, some kind of notice sent to the site admin so bad messages don't just accumulate without being seen. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Maximum number of recipients Setting

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/3/21 1:45 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > I have run several tests. It looks like on the 'Maximum number of > recipients' setting, a 2 means 1. If I set it to 2, I can have the > listname(a)listdomain.com only. If I have a CC, it comes to me for > moderation. If I set it to a 3, I can send out to > listname(a)listdomain.com plus a CC. If I set it to 3 and add 2 CC's plus > the listname(a)listdomain.com address, it comes to me for moderation. I understand it's confusing, but it's been that way since the beginning of Mailman 2.1. The docs at <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rules/docs…> say "For backward compatibility, the message must have fewer than the maximum number of explicit recipients." I agree the description in Postorius could be clarified see <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/515>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 1 month

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