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Re: Weird response to postings after subscriptions and accounts

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/17/19 6:39 PM, paul(a)arenson.org wrote: > > A) Thoughts before summarizing tests. > 1) I had originally thought of making archives only for subscribers to give them the benefit of posting from the archives directly and being able to find stuff more like a forum (email is always hard to follow). Anyone logged in to an account can post from Hyperkitty. Their post is treated the same as if they posted by email. > 2) But in retrospect it seems people can get an idea what the list is about from free access. So that is now what I have. OK > 3) On the other hand, it is a bit confusing that a non member can post from the archives without realizing that they need to register, with my settings I can moderate and decide if I want to add him or her to the list based on whether that is spam or not. So ok. A non-member is a non-member. A post from a non-member is handled according to "Default action to take when a non-member posts to the list" unless that non-member has a Moderation action other than List Default. > B) THE TESTS > I was testing too many variables so, to simplify things, I made my settings as follows > > 1) Subscription—> Confirm > > 2) Message Acceptance—> Default processing (so only members may post) > > 3) Testing Procesure > I added people three ways—> To do that I created 3 unique addresses to see if they can send and receive by email. > > > 3a) subscribe without creating an account—from here (bottom) https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/postorius/lists/discuss.list.tokyoprogres… > > 3b) Subscription / Unsubscription from same page, navigate to Login and again navigate to signup > Comment 1: Confusing because even after creating an account, they are not subscribed to the list. Maybe it makes sense if a person has many lists, but I only have this one. It does not say clearly that one has to subscribe after creating an account. I understand it's not totally explicit, but it says "To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list, please log in first. If you have not previously logged in, you may need to set up an account with the appropriate email address." To me the implication is once you have created an account, you have to come back, log in and subscribe. What do you want it to say? > Comment 2: The other thing is that it does not show my domain but that of mailman3.emwd.com <http://mailman3.emwd.com/>. Talk to Brian (emwd) > 3c) Mass Subscribe by me. Which is what I intend for my 600 users from another list company. > Comment This worked fine. > > > C) Summary > 1) I have been thinking of having an account as a good way to get users used to using the archives as a way to confirm current and past topics (as opposed to keeping track by email. But it seems I need to tell them to BOTH subscribe AND create an account. Am I thinking about it the wrong way? That's correct. They need an account and they need to subscribe that account to the list. > 2) When a person wants to unsubscribe, they go to discuss-request(a)list.tokyoprogressive.org <mailto:discuss-request@list.tokyoprogressive.org> with subject bline help. > > a) Isn’t there a better way to unsubscribe by email? email to discuss-leave(a)list.tokyoprogressive.org (or discuss-unsubscribe(a)list.tokyoprogressive.org) Or you can login, go to https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/postorius/lists/discuss.list.tokyoprogres… and click the big red unsubscribe button. > b) And how about a way to remove their account itself? Log in and click the dropdown at the upper right, select Account and click the Delete Account tab or go directly to https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/user-profile/ and click the Delete Account tab or go directly to https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/user-profile/delete -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 4 months

mm3 floods syslog

by Wolfgang Bock

Dear friends, I got another problem: mailman floods my syslog. I deleted a domain/webdomain (further mentioned as deleted.org) in postorius, django web. No entries are now in /var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_domains or postfix_lmtp or /var/lib/mailman3/lists. Here an extract of my syslog (anonymized): Oct 31 10:49:02 myserver mailman3[1284]: Oct 31 10:49:02 2021 (1284) Certificate did not match expected hostname: localhost. Certificate: {'subject': ((('commonName', 'deleteted.org'),),), 'issuer': ((('countryName', 'US'),), (('or ganizationName', "Let's Encrypt"),), (('commonName', 'R3'),)), 'version': 3, 'serialNumber': '0326A733CA7B16D13C830EE707EA614E25F9', 'notBefore': 'Oct 30 20:21:08 2021 GMT', 'notAfter': 'Jan 28 20:21:07 2022 GMT', 'subjectAltName': (('DN S', 'deleteted.org'), ('DNS', 'lists.deleteted.org'), ('DNS', 'mail.deleteted.org'), ('DNS', 'ns.deleteted.org'), ('DNS', 'www.deleteted.org')), 'OCSP': ('http://r3.o.lencr.org',), 'caIssuers': ('http:/ /r3.i.lencr.org/',)} This appears nonstop. I now stopped the cronjob fort he moment: "[ -f /usr/bin/django-admin ] && flock -n /var/run/mailman3-web/cron.minutely /usr/share/mailman3-web/manage.py runjobs minutely" and others Does mailman or django store any information about domains in another place/file. If yes, how this can be deleted?? Thanks for your reply in advance. Regards Wolfgang

4 years, 2 months

Re: mailman3-web language preference and translation settings

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/6/23 15:54, Nils wrote: > Thanks for your help, Mark. I've already tried that and it gave me this > message: > > # sudo -u www-data python3 /usr/bin/django-admin compilemessages > --pythonpath /usr/share/mailman3-web --settings settings > CommandError: This script should be run from the Django Git checkout or > your project or app tree, or with the settings module specified. > > I'm working on ubuntu and I don't have (venv)$ The other commands (migrate, collectstatic and compress) worked fine. Kind regards I don't know why this fails like that, particularly since the same thing works for migrate, collectstatic and compress. The only thing I can think of is you may need to cd to the directory containing django/ django_mailman3/ postorius/ and /hyperkitty before doing the above. This may be something like /usr/lib/python3.x/site-packages. If that doesn't work, since I think you are using the Debian/Ubuntu package, I suggest you try Debian for help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

Re: Can't subscribe on new site/domain

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/9/25 5:02 AM, Flo via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi, > > I added a new site in Django: lists.example.com > > Usually I click on 'view site' and I can add a Domain in Postorios. In > this case I get an error message and I need to add a Domain in Django. > Then I can go to 'view site'. > > I can create a mailing list there. However when I send an email to be > subscribed, I get the following in mailman.log (and nothing else happens): > > > Oct 09 13:46:24 2025 (110452) deque: do_confirm_verify > Traceback (most recent call last): ... > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/model/domain.py", line > 177, in __getitem__ > raise KeyError(mail_host) > KeyError: 'lists.example.com' It appears you don't have a domain in Mailman core with mail_host = 'lists.example.com'. Do you see one in Postorius' domains view? If not, perhaps you need to add it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 months, 1 week

Re: Importing Mailman 2 Lists apart from Django

by Andrew Hodgson

Brian Carpenter wrote: >Hello Mailman Users, >Are there instructions on importing a Mailman 2 list into a Mailman 3 core installation only? Does the import21 script not need Django/Postorius/Hyperkitty? >It seems Django is required to import archives I guess because of the use of Hyperkitty. How about importing archives without having a Django installation? Is that what the prototype archiver for? Its an interesting question, my understanding on this is that Mailman Core and Hyperkitty are separate projects and so if you are building a replacement to Hyperkitty you would need to deal with how messages get posted to it (currently Mailman sends messages to Hyperkitty when they get posted) and also how archives can be imported. I may be wrong on this but if you were creating a new archiver you would need to factor this in, you also would have the choice to use the current schema that Hyperkitty uses or your own database schema elsewhere. If you use the Hyperkitty schema I guess you could continue to use it's import process, but that may limit your design decisions for the software you are writing. Andrew.

5 years, 8 months

Re: Issues encountered while upgrading to 3.3.7

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/5/22 10:02, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 8:54 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >> >> Thus, putting >> ``` >> DEFAULT_AUTO_FIELD = 'django.db.models.AutoField' >> ``` >> in your settings will maintain compatibility with pre 3.2 versions and >> existing tables and this is the correct thing to do. >> > > Thank you very much for the clarification. Also note that for the past year or so, the files postorius/example_project/settings.py:, mailman_web/settings/base.py, hyperkitty/example_project/settings.py and mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project/settings.py have all contained DEFAULT_AUTO_FIELD = 'django.db.models.AutoField' and if you follow https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#initial-configu… you will import mailman_web/settings/base.py and pick this up from mailman-web 0.0.6 and both https://wiki.list.org/x/17892066 and https://wiki.list.org/x/17891998 suggest that your settings.py should be a copy of the mailman-suite settings.py file but with DEBUG = False, the implication being that when that file changes, yours should too. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 1 month

Re: Welcome message template errors

by Mark

>> I created a text file as a custom welcome message ... > The retrieval of a file does not involve calling requests.get() to > retrieve the URL via http which is where the issue occurs. > ... > So for example, to create a lists specific english language welcome > template for the list.example.com list you could just put the template > in > var/templates/lists/list.example.com/en/list:user:notice:welcome.txt > or to make it sitewide, in > var/templates/site/en/list:user:notice:welcome.txt Thank you, that is indeed useful info, and as the site-owner I'll use it. But it's of no help to a list-owner who wants to create a custom template, because they have to use Postorius. So, I'm thinking (in broad brush strokes) that if I'm stuck with this "http glitch" I could write a script to: 1. extract the text of the custom message from the database, 2. write that message text to a file 3. update the templates.uri entries to replace the http://localhost... with file:///path/to/file 4. cron the script to run every few minutes. It screams of utter clunk I know...

1 year, 8 months

Re: New releases

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/11/20 8:19 PM, brylon(a)oit.rutgers.edu wrote: > I already have ruby-sass installed and the compress command used to work as expected prior to my upgrading to the latest core, postorius, hyperkitty versions using pip in my venv. > > Does It matter at all when performing the Django-admin commands whether I've activated the venv or not? I think I've tried running them both activated and deactivated to no avail, but any other suggestions? I don't think that's the issue here, but the venv should be active when you run the Django-admin commands. Looking more closely at the error, I see it says ``` File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/compressor/base.py", line 282, in precompile mod = import_module(mod_name) ... ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'sass -t compressed {infile} {outfile}' ``` Thus it appears that compressor is trying to import 'sass -t compressed {infile} {outfile}' as a module instead of executing it as a command. What version of compressor is this? It is working for me on 4 sites with django_compressor-2.4, django_compressor-2.3 and django_compressor-2.2. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

Re: migration from 2.1 - owners and moderators

by Alex Schuilenburg

On 24/10/2020 01:38, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > List owners should be receiving moderation notifications and are able > to moderate messages when they log into Postorius. Have you checked > your MTA logs to see if they are or are not being sent out? They were not sent out. Its not all lists though, and its intermittent, so something else must be throwing a spanner in the works. I cannot seem to find a reproducible case. > > If you don't mind having some paid assistance, I may be able to assist > you with getting Xapian up and running. We use Xapian on our vanilla > MM3 servers and Elasticsearch on our MM3 Affinity/Empathy servers. You > can contact me off list if you are interested. Thanks, but I got Xapian up and running myself. My debian python libraries are now a patchwork quilt to fix issues like https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/issues/322, which included modifying one patch from alex silva. xapian is a hell of a lot faster - < 1s as opposed to ~6m 30s with whoosh for the "minute" cron job on my site. -- Alex

5 years, 2 months

Question: What happens if I delete a user from all lists and that user is sole owner of some list?

by David Partain

Hi, One of the great things about our new installation compared with our old is the ability to manage users via https://our.wee.domain/postorius/users I might have been able to manage them using the command line on the old installation, but there is no 'mailman delmembers' on that box. Since I now have this Mighty Power, I want to use it to clean up. There are many users who should no longer be on the system, so I want to run something along the lines of: mailman delmembers --member some(a)email.address --fromall \ --no-goodbye-msg --no-admin-notify or, if I'm feeling brave, something like this. mailman delmembers --file somefile --fromall \ --no-goodbye-msg --no-admin-notify My question is: If one of these users is the sole owner of a list, what will happen? Will the user be deleted and that list now owner-less? Will mailman refuse to delete that user until I add a new owner? Thanks in advance for your feedback. Cheers, David

1 year, 9 months

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