Re: How To Install Mailman 3 on Debian 10 (Complete Guide)
by Lars Schimmer
On 26/02/2021 00:55, Brian Carpenter wrote:
> I have finished my how-to install Mailman 3 on Debian 10 completed to
> the point where you can use it to get a fully functional Mailman 3
> environment up and running. This is a comprehensive guide that walks you
> through installing EVERYTHING (currently!) that Mailman 3 needs to run.
> It also makes updating Mailman 3/Postorius/Hyperkitty very easy. I have
> not added the update directions yet but will very soon. I also plan on
> adding a section on setting up DKIM and Xapian with Mailman 3.
>
> I hope this helps those who wish to get a Mailman 3 server up and
> running quickly and brings a sense of sanity to the confusion regarding
> the various documentation out there concerning the installation of
> Mailman 3/Postorius/Hyperkitty. I intend to add a How-to for Ubuntu 20
> at some point.
>
> Without further ado:
>
> https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Howto_Install_Mailman3_On_Debian10
>
> I am sure the above guide can use improvements. Feel free to contact me
> off-list to point out mistakes/improvements, etc.
>
Hm, it completely ignores the standard way for Debian:
apt-get install mailman3-full
also exim4 as standard mailer.
And apache2.
But thats just my 2 cent.
MfG,
Lars Schimmer
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4 years, 8 months
Re: using SSH/TLS with external MTA
by Roland Giesler
On 2024/07/28 00:39, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 7/27/24 15:16, Roland Giesler via Mailman-users wrote:
>>
>> The server runs power-mailinabox, which uses Postfix indeed. All my
>> mail, and quite a few others' mail is sent from the using SMTP-Auth
>> on port 465. Actually, this message is sent via that server too. So
>> it's clear to me that MM3 is not authenticating for some reason.
>
> What do you see in Mailman's smtp.log and in the mail.log on the mail
> server?
The smtp log is in syslog...
Jul 28 12:48:19 mailman postfix/smtpd[63855]: connect from localhost[::1]
Jul 28 12:48:19 mailman postfix/smtpd[63855]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
localhost[::1]: 454 4.7.1 <roland(a)giesler.za.net>: Relay access denied;
from=<postorius(a)giesler.za.net> to=<roland(a)giesler.za.net> proto=ESMTP
helo=<mailman.fast.za.net>
Jul 28 12:48:19 mailman postfix/smtpd[63769]: lost connection after RSET
from localhost[::1]
Jul 28 12:48:19 mailman postfix/smtpd[63769]: disconnect from
localhost[::1] ehlo=1 mail=1 rcpt=0/1 rset=1 commands=3/4
Jul 28 12:48:19 mailman postfix/smtpd[63769]: connect from localhost[::1]
Jul 28 12:48:19 mailman postfix/smtpd[63769]: 4D0DE120A5B:
client=localhost[::1]
Jul 28 12:48:19 mailman postfix/cleanup[63291]: 4D0DE120A5B:
message-id=<172217089931.2150.9004701361968608890(a)mailman.fast.za.net>
Jul 28 12:48:19 mailman postfix/qmgr[330]: 4D0DE120A5B:
from=<root(a)giesler.za.net>, size=21782, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jul 28 12:48:19 mailman postfix/smtpd[63769]: disconnect from
localhost[::1] ehlo=1 mail=1 rcpt=1 data=1 quit=1 commands=5
Jul 28 12:48:19 mailman postfix/local[63575]: 4D0DE120A5B:
to=<root@localhost>, relay=local, delay=0.01, delays=0.01/0/0/0,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to mailbox)
Jul 28 12:48:19 mailman postfix/qmgr[330]: 4D0DE120A5B: removed
I think I see what's going on here. The mail is being sent from
postorius(a)giesler.za.net and there is no log entry on
box2.gtahardware.co.za that shows this logon attempt. So it seems it's
not going to that server, but rather to the local postfix.
A mail was sent to root on the localhost with the following content:
Return-Path: <root(a)giesler.za.net>
X-Original-To: root@localhost
Delivered-To: root@localhost
Received: from mailman.fast.za.net (localhost [IPv6:::1])
by mailman.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2174A120A5B
for <root@localhost>; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 13:11:03 +0000 (UTC)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Subject: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error:
/accounts/login/
From: root(a)giesler.za.net
To: root@localhost
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 13:11:03 -0000
Message-ID: <172217226313.2150.10895652368679013629(a)mailman.fast.za.net>
Internal Server Error: /accounts/login/
SMTPRecipientsRefused at /accounts/login/
{'roland(a)giesler.za.net': (454, b'4.7.1 <roland(a)giesler.za.net>: Relay acce=
ss denied')}
Request Method: POST
Request URL: http://192.168.161.103/accounts/login/
Django Version: 3.2.12
Python Executable: /usr/bin/uwsgi-core
Python Version: 3.10.12
Python Path: ['.', '', '/usr/lib/python310.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.10', '/u=
sr/lib/python3.10/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python3.10/dist-packages', =
'/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3.10/dist-packages']
Server time: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:11:03 +0200
Installed Applications:
('hyperkitty',
'postorius',
'django_mailman3',
'django.contrib.admin',
'django.contrib.auth',
'django.contrib.contenttypes',
'django.contrib.sessions',
'django.contrib.sites',
'django.contrib.messages',
'django.contrib.staticfiles',
'rest_framework',
'django_gravatar',
'compressor',
'haystack',
'django_extensions',
'django_q',
'allauth',
'allauth.account',
'allauth.socialaccount',
'django_mailman3.lib.auth.fedora')
Installed Middleware:
('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware',
'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware',
'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware',
'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware',
'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware',
'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware',
'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware',
'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware',
'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware',
'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware')
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py", line
47, in inner
response =3D get_response(request)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py",
line 181, in _get_response
response =3D wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args,
**callback_kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/views/generic/base.py",
line 70, in view
return self.dispatch(request, *args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/utils/decorators.py",
line 43, in _wrapper
return bound_method(*args, **kwargs)
File
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/views/decorators/debug.py", line
89, in sensitive_post_parameters_wrapper
return view(request, *args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/account/views.py", line
146, in dispatch
return super(LoginView, self).dispatch(request, *args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/account/views.py", line
74, in dispatch
response =3D super(RedirectAuthenticatedUserMixin, self).dispatch(
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/views/generic/base.py",
line 98, in dispatch
return handler(request, *args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/account/views.py", line
102, in post
response =3D self.form_valid(form)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/account/views.py", line
159, in form_valid
return form.login(self.request, redirect_url=3Dsuccess_url)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/account/forms.py", line
196, in login
ret =3D perform_login(
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/account/utils.py", line
175, in perform_login
send_email_confirmation(request, user, signup=3Dsignup, email=3Demail)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/account/utils.py", line
346, in send_email_confirmation
email_address.send_confirmation(request, signup=3Dsignup)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/account/models.py", line
62, in send_confirmation
confirmation.send(request, signup=3Dsignup)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/account/models.py", line
169, in send
get_adapter(request).send_confirmation_mail(request, self, signup)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/account/adapter.py",
line 464, in send_confirmation_mail
self.send_mail(email_template,
emailconfirmation.email_address.email, ctx)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/allauth/account/adapter.py",
line 136, in send_mail
msg.send()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/mail/message.py",
line 284, in send
return self.get_connection(fail_silently).send_messages([self])
File
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/mail/backends/smtp.py", line
109, in send_messages
sent =3D self._send(message)
File
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/mail/backends/smtp.py", line
125, in _send
self.connection.sendmail(from_email, recipients,
message.as_bytes(linesep=3D'\r\n'))
File "/usr/lib/python3.10/smtplib.py", line 901, in sendmail
raise SMTPRecipientsRefused(senderrs)
Exception Type: SMTPRecipientsRefused at /accounts/login/
Exception Value: {'roland(a)giesler.za.net': (454, b'4.7.1
<roland(a)giesler.za.net>: Relay access denied')}
Request information:
USER: AnonymousUser
GET: No GET data
POST:
csrfmiddlewaretoken =3D
'41gp97hhfO2FhiEzOFLf1c5P3WLxk5TZvOgF0Qske6zI3EHtk8YK3w6wlEhLQAVS'
login =3D 'roland(a)giesler.za.net'
password =3D '********************'
next =3D '/postorius/lists/'
FILES: No FILES data
COOKIES:
csrftoken =3D
'aW8mw1heNIcuQ1YTMwnWMzi9DMaDFES6BJ8CnKshM0JxCn1NiZArOTjQVuGRb9UZ'
META:
CONTENT_LENGTH =3D '164'
CONTENT_TYPE =3D 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded'
CSRF_COOKIE =3D
'aW8mw1heNIcuQ1YTMwnWMzi9DMaDFES6BJ8CnKshM0JxCn1NiZArOTjQVuGRb9UZ'
DOCUMENT_ROOT =3D '/usr/share/nginx/html'
HTTP_ACCEPT =3D
'text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=3D0.9,image/avif,image/webp,image/apng,*/*;q=3D0.8'
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING =3D 'gzip, deflate'
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE =3D 'en-GB,en'
HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL =3D 'max-age=3D0'
HTTP_CONNECTION =3D 'keep-alive'
HTTP_CONTENT_LENGTH =3D '164'
HTTP_CONTENT_TYPE =3D 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded'
HTTP_COOKIE =3D
'csrftoken=3DaW8mw1heNIcuQ1YTMwnWMzi9DMaDFES6BJ8CnKshM0JxCn1NiZArOTjQVuGRb9UZ'
HTTP_HOST =3D '192.168.161.103'
HTTP_ORIGIN =3D 'http://192.168.161.103'
HTTP_REFERER =3D
'http://192.168.161.103/accounts/login/?next=3D/postorius/lists/'
HTTP_SEC_GPC =3D '1'
HTTP_UPGRADE_INSECURE_REQUESTS =3D '1'
HTTP_USER_AGENT =3D 'Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/126.0.0.0 Safari/537.36'
PATH_INFO =3D '/accounts/login/'
QUERY_STRING =3D ''
REMOTE_ADDR =3D '192.168.131.150'
REMOTE_PORT =3D '60098'
REQUEST_METHOD =3D 'POST'
REQUEST_SCHEME =3D 'http'
REQUEST_URI =3D '/accounts/login/'
SCRIPT_NAME =3D ''
SERVER_NAME =3D ''
SERVER_PORT =3D '80'
SERVER_PROTOCOL =3D 'HTTP/1.1'
uwsgi.core =3D 1
uwsgi.node =3D b'mailman'
uwsgi.version =3D b'2.0.20-debian'
wsgi.errors =3D <_io.TextIOWrapper name=3D2 mode=3D'w'
encoding=3D'ANSI_X3.4-1968'>
wsgi.file_wrapper =3D <built-in function uwsgi_sendfile>
wsgi.input =3D <uwsgi._Input object at 0x7facb44bd530>
wsgi.multiprocess =3D False
wsgi.multithread =3D True
wsgi.run_once =3D False
wsgi.url_scheme =3D 'http'
wsgi.version =3D '(1, 0)'
Settings:
Using settings module settings
ABSOLUTE_URL_OVERRIDES =3D {}
ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD =3D 'username_email'
ACCOUNT_DEFAULT_HTTP_PROTOCOL =3D 'https'
ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED =3D True
ACCOUNT_EMAIL_VERIFICATION =3D 'mandatory'
ACCOUNT_UNIQUE_EMAIL =3D True
ADMINS =3D "(('Mailman Suite Admin', 'root@localhost'),)"
ALLOWED_HOSTS =3D ['*']
APPEND_SLASH =3D True
AUTHENTICATION_BACKENDS =3D
"('django.contrib.auth.backends.ModelBackend',
'allauth.account.auth_backends.AuthenticationBackend')"
AUTH_PASSWORD_VALIDATORS =3D '********************'
AUTH_USER_MODEL =3D 'auth.User'
BASE_DIR =3D '/usr/share/mailman3-web'
CACHES =3D {'default': {'BACKEND':
'django.core.cache.backends.locmem.LocMemCache'}}
CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_ALIAS =3D 'default'
CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_KEY_PREFIX =3D '********************'
CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_SECONDS =3D 600
COMPRESSORS =3D {'css': 'compressor.css.CssCompressor', 'js':
'compressor.js.JsCompressor'}
COMPRESS_CACHEABLE_PRECOMPILERS =3D '()'
COMPRESS_CACHE_BACKEND =3D 'default'
COMPRESS_CACHE_KEY_FUNCTION =3D '********************'
COMPRESS_CLEAN_CSS_ARGUMENTS =3D ''
COMPRESS_CLEAN_CSS_BINARY =3D 'cleancss'
COMPRESS_CLOSURE_COMPILER_ARGUMENTS =3D ''
COMPRESS_CLOSURE_COMPILER_BINARY =3D 'java -jar compiler.jar'
COMPRESS_CSS_HASHING_METHOD =3D 'mtime'
COMPRESS_DATA_URI_MAX_SIZE =3D 1024
COMPRESS_DEBUG_TOGGLE =3D None
COMPRESS_ENABLED =3D True
COMPRESS_FILTERS =3D {'css':
['compressor.filters.css_default.CssAbsoluteFilter'], 'js':
['compressor.filters.jsmin.JSMinFilter']}
COMPRESS_JINJA2_GET_ENVIRONMENT =3D <function
CompressorConf.JINJA2_GET_ENVIRONMENT at 0x7facb6a52b00>
COMPRESS_MINT_DELAY =3D 30
COMPRESS_MTIME_DELAY =3D 10
COMPRESS_OFFLINE =3D True
COMPRESS_OFFLINE_CONTEXT =3D {'STATIC_URL': '/mailman3/static/'}
COMPRESS_OFFLINE_MANIFEST =3D 'manifest.json'
COMPRESS_OFFLINE_TIMEOUT =3D 31536000
COMPRESS_OUTPUT_DIR =3D 'CACHE'
COMPRESS_PARSER =3D 'compressor.parser.AutoSelectParser'
COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS =3D '()'
COMPRESS_REBUILD_TIMEOUT =3D 2592000
COMPRESS_ROOT =3D '/var/lib/mailman3/web/static'
COMPRESS_STORAGE =3D 'compressor.storage.CompressorFileStorage'
COMPRESS_TEMPLATE_FILTER_CONTEXT =3D {'STATIC_URL': '/mailman3/static/'}
COMPRESS_URL =3D '/mailman3/static/'
COMPRESS_URL_PLACEHOLDER =3D '/__compressor_url_placeholder__/'
COMPRESS_VERBOSE =3D False
COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_BINARY =3D 'yuglify'
COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_CSS_ARGUMENTS =3D '--terminal'
COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_JS_ARGUMENTS =3D '--terminal'
COMPRESS_YUI_BINARY =3D 'java -jar yuicompressor.jar'
COMPRESS_YUI_CSS_ARGUMENTS =3D ''
COMPRESS_YUI_JS_ARGUMENTS =3D ''
CSRF_COOKIE_AGE =3D 31449600
CSRF_COOKIE_DOMAIN =3D None
CSRF_COOKIE_HTTPONLY =3D False
CSRF_COOKIE_NAME =3D 'csrftoken'
CSRF_COOKIE_PATH =3D '/'
CSRF_COOKIE_SAMESITE =3D 'Lax'
CSRF_COOKIE_SECURE =3D False
CSRF_FAILURE_VIEW =3D 'django.views.csrf.csrf_failure'
CSRF_HEADER_NAME =3D 'HTTP_X_CSRFTOKEN'
CSRF_TRUSTED_ORIGINS =3D []
CSRF_USE_SESSIONS =3D False
DATABASES =3D {'default': {'ENGINE': 'django.db.backends.mysql', 'NAME':
'mailman3web', 'USER': 'mailman3web', 'PASSWORD':
'********************', 'HOST': 'localhost', 'PORT': '', 'OPTIONS':
{'init_command': "SET sql_mode=3D'STRICT_TRANS_TABLES'"},
'ATOMIC_REQUESTS': False, 'AUTOCOMMIT': True, 'CONN_MAX_AGE': 0,
'TIME_ZONE': None, 'TEST': {'CHARSET': None, 'COLLATION': None,
'MIGRATE': True, 'MIRROR': None, 'NAME': None}}}
DATABASE_ROUTERS =3D []
DATA_UPLOAD_MAX_MEMORY_SIZE =3D 2621440
DATA_UPLOAD_MAX_NUMBER_FIELDS =3D 1000
DATA_UPLOAD_MAX_NUMBER_FILES =3D 100
DATETIME_FORMAT =3D 'N j, Y, P'
DATETIME_INPUT_FORMATS =3D ['%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S', '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f',
'%Y-%m-%d %H:%M', '%m/%d/%Y %H:%M:%S', '%m/%d/%Y %H:%M:%S.%f', '%m/%d/%Y
%H:%M', '%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S', '%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S.%f', '%m/%d/%y %H:%M']
DATE_FORMAT =3D 'N j, Y'
DATE_INPUT_FORMATS =3D ['%Y-%m-%d', '%m/%d/%Y', '%m/%d/%y', '%b %d %Y',
'%b %d, %Y', '%d %b %Y', '%d %b, %Y', '%B %d %Y', '%B %d, %Y', '%d %B
%Y', '%d %B, %Y']
DEBUG =3D False
DEBUG_PROPAGATE_EXCEPTIONS =3D False
DECIMAL_SEPARATOR =3D '.'
DEFAULT_AUTO_FIELD =3D 'django.db.models.AutoField'
DEFAULT_CHARSET =3D 'utf-8'
DEFAULT_EXCEPTION_REPORTER =3D 'django.views.debug.ExceptionReporter'
DEFAULT_EXCEPTION_REPORTER_FILTER =3D
'django.views.debug.SafeExceptionReporterFilter'
DEFAULT_FILE_STORAGE =3D 'django.core.files.storage.FileSystemStorage'
DEFAULT_FROM_EMAIL =3D 'postorius(a)giesler.za.net'
DEFAULT_HASHING_ALGORITHM =3D 'sha256'
DEFAULT_INDEX_TABLESPACE =3D ''
DEFAULT_TABLESPACE =3D ''
DISALLOWED_USER_AGENTS =3D []
EMAILNAME =3D 'giesler.za.net'
EMAIL_BACKEND =3D 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend'
EMAIL_HOST =3D 'localhost'
EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD =3D '********************'
EMAIL_HOST_USER =3D ''
EMAIL_PORT =3D 25
EMAIL_SSL_CERTFILE =3D None
EMAIL_SSL_KEYFILE =3D '********************'
EMAIL_SUBJECT_PREFIX =3D '[Django] '
EMAIL_TIMEOUT =3D None
EMAIL_USE_LOCALTIME =3D False
EMAIL_USE_SSL =3D False
EMAIL_USE_TLS =3D False
FILE_UPLOAD_DIRECTORY_PERMISSIONS =3D None
FILE_UPLOAD_HANDLERS =3D
['django.core.files.uploadhandler.MemoryFileUploadHandler',
'django.core.files.uploadhandler.TemporaryFileUploadHandler']
FILE_UPLOAD_MAX_MEMORY_SIZE =3D 2621440
FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSIONS =3D 420
FILE_UPLOAD_TEMP_DIR =3D None
FILTER_VHOST =3D False
FIRST_DAY_OF_WEEK =3D 0
FIXTURE_DIRS =3D []
FORCE_SCRIPT_NAME =3D None
FORMAT_MODULE_PATH =3D None
FORM_RENDERER =3D 'django.forms.renderers.DjangoTemplates'
HAYSTACK_CONNECTIONS =3D {'default': {'ENGINE':
'haystack.backends.whoosh_backend.WhooshEngine', 'PATH':
'/var/lib/mailman3/web/fulltext_index'}}
HOSTNAME =3D 'localhost.local'
IGNORABLE_404_URLS =3D []
INSTALLED_APPS =3D "('hyperkitty', 'postorius', 'django_mailman3',
'django.contrib.admin', 'django.contrib.auth',
'django.contrib.contenttypes', 'django.contrib.sessions',
'django.contrib.sites', 'django.contrib.messages',
'django.contrib.staticfiles', 'rest_framework', 'django_gravatar',
'compressor', 'haystack', 'django_extensions', 'django_q', 'allauth',
'allauth.account', 'allauth.socialaccount',
'django_mailman3.lib.auth.fedora')"
INTERNAL_IPS =3D []
LANGUAGES =3D [('af', 'Afrikaans'), ('ar', 'Arabic'), ('ar-dz',
'Algerian Arabic'), ('ast', 'Asturian'), ('az', 'Azerbaijani'), ('bg',
'Bulgarian'), ('be', 'Belarusian'), ('bn', 'Bengali'), ('br', 'Breton'),
('bs', 'Bosnian'), ('ca', 'Catalan'), ('cs', 'Czech'), ('cy', 'Welsh'),
('da', 'Danish'), ('de', 'German'), ('dsb', 'Lower Sorbian'), ('el',
'Greek'), ('en', 'English'), ('en-au', 'Australian English'), ('en-gb',
'British English'), ('eo', 'Esperanto'), ('es', 'Spanish'), ('es-ar',
'Argentinian Spanish'), ('es-co', 'Colombian Spanish'), ('es-mx',
'Mexican Spanish'), ('es-ni', 'Nicaraguan Spanish'), ('es-ve',
'Venezuelan Spanish'), ('et', 'Estonian'), ('eu', 'Basque'), ('fa',
'Persian'), ('fi', 'Finnish'), ('fr', 'French'), ('fy', 'Frisian'),
('ga', 'Irish'), ('gd', 'Scottish Gaelic'), ('gl', 'Galician'), ('he',
'Hebrew'), ('hi', 'Hindi'), ('hr', 'Croatian'), ('hsb', 'Upper
Sorbian'), ('hu', 'Hungarian'), ('hy', 'Armenian'), ('ia',
'Interlingua'), ('id', 'Indonesian'), ('ig', 'Igbo'), ('io', 'Ido'),
('is', 'Icelandic'), ('it', 'Italian'), ('ja', 'Japanese'), ('ka',
'Georgian'), ('kab', 'Kabyle'), ('kk', 'Kazakh'), ('km', 'Khmer'),
('kn', 'Kannada'), ('ko', 'Korean'), ('ky', 'Kyrgyz'), ('lb',
'Luxembourgish'), ('lt', 'Lithuanian'), ('lv', 'Latvian'), ('mk',
'Macedonian'), ('ml', 'Malayalam'), ('mn', 'Mongolian'), ('mr',
'Marathi'), ('my', 'Burmese'), ('nb', 'Norwegian Bokm=C3=A5l'), ('ne',
'Nepali'), ('nl', 'Dutch'), ('nn', 'Norwegian Nynorsk'), ('os',
'Ossetic'), ('pa', 'Punjabi'), ('pl', 'Polish'), ('pt', 'Portuguese'),
('pt-br', 'Brazilian Portuguese'), ('ro', 'Romanian'), ('ru',
'Russian'), ('sk', 'Slovak'), ('sl', 'Slovenian'), ('sq', 'Albanian'),
('sr', 'Serbian'), ('sr-latn', 'Serbian Latin'), ('sv', 'Swedish'),
('sw', 'Swahili'), ('ta', 'Tamil'), ('te', 'Telugu'), ('tg', 'Tajik'),
('th', 'Thai'), ('tk', 'Turkmen'), ('tr', 'Turkish'), ('tt', 'Tatar'),
('udm', 'Udmurt'), ('uk', 'Ukrainian'), ('ur', 'Urdu'), ('uz', 'Uzbek'),
('vi', 'Vietnamese'), ('zh-hans', 'Simplified Chinese'), ('zh-hant',
'Traditional Chinese')]
LANGUAGES_BIDI =3D ['he', 'ar', 'ar-dz', 'fa', 'ur']
LANGUAGE_CODE =3D 'en-za'
LANGUAGE_COOKIE_AGE =3D None
LANGUAGE_COOKIE_DOMAIN =3D None
LANGUAGE_COOKIE_HTTPONLY =3D False
LANGUAGE_COOKIE_NAME =3D 'django_language'
LANGUAGE_COOKIE_PATH =3D '/'
LANGUAGE_COOKIE_SAMESITE =3D None
LANGUAGE_COOKIE_SECURE =3D False
LOCALE_PATHS =3D []
LOGGING =3D {'version': 1, 'disable_existing_loggers': False, 'filters':
{'require_debug_false': {'()': 'django.utils.log.RequireDebugFalse'}},
'handlers': {'mail_admins': {'level': 'ERROR', 'filters':
['require_debug_false'], 'class': 'django.utils.log.AdminEmailHandler'},
'file': {'level': 'INFO', 'class':
'logging.handlers.RotatingFileHandler', 'filename':
'/var/log/mailman3/web/mailman-web.log', 'formatter': 'verbose'},
'console': {'class': 'logging.StreamHandler', 'formatter': 'simple'}},
'loggers': {'django.request': {'handlers': ['mail_admins', 'file'],
'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}, 'django': {'handlers': ['file'],
'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}, 'hyperkitty': {'handlers':
['file'], 'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}, 'postorius': {'handlers':
['file'], 'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}}, 'formatters':
{'verbose': {'format': '%(levelname)s %(asctime)s %(process)d %(name)s
%(message)s'}, 'simple': {'format': '%(levelname)s %(message)s'}}}
LOGGING_CONFIG =3D 'logging.config.dictConfig'
LOGIN_REDIRECT_URL =3D 'list_index'
LOGIN_URL =3D 'account_login'
LOGOUT_REDIRECT_URL =3D None
LOGOUT_URL =3D 'account_logout'
MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM =3D "('127.0.0.1', '::1')"
MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY =3D '********************'
MAILMAN_REST_API_PASS =3D '********************'
MAILMAN_REST_API_URL =3D '********************'
MAILMAN_REST_API_USER =3D '********************'
MANAGERS =3D []
MEDIA_ROOT =3D ''
MEDIA_URL =3D '/'
MESSAGE_STORAGE =3D
'django.contrib.messages.storage.fallback.FallbackStorage'
MESSAGE_TAGS =3D {40: 'danger'}
MIDDLEWARE =3D "('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware',
'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware',
'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware',
'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware',
'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware',
'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware',
'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware',
'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware',
'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware',
'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware')"
MIGRATION_MODULES =3D {}
MONTH_DAY_FORMAT =3D 'F j'
NUMBER_GROUPING =3D 0
PASSWORD_HASHERS =3D '********************'
PASSWORD_RESET_TIMEOUT =3D '********************'
PASSWORD_RESET_TIMEOUT_DAYS =3D '********************'
POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL =3D 'http://localhost/mailman3/'
PREPEND_WWW =3D False
Q_CLUSTER =3D {'timeout': 300, 'save_limit': 100, 'orm': 'default',
'poll': 5}
ROOT_URLCONF =3D 'urls'
SECRET_KEY =3D '********************'
SECURE_BROWSER_XSS_FILTER =3D False
SECURE_CONTENT_TYPE_NOSNIFF =3D True
SECURE_HSTS_INCLUDE_SUBDOMAINS =3D False
SECURE_HSTS_PRELOAD =3D False
SECURE_HSTS_SECONDS =3D 0
SECURE_PROXY_SSL_HEADER =3D None
SECURE_REDIRECT_EXEMPT =3D []
SECURE_REFERRER_POLICY =3D 'same-origin'
SECURE_SSL_HOST =3D None
SECURE_SSL_REDIRECT =3D False
SERVER_EMAIL =3D 'root(a)giesler.za.net'
SESSION_CACHE_ALIAS =3D 'default'
SESSION_COOKIE_AGE =3D 1209600
SESSION_COOKIE_DOMAIN =3D None
SESSION_COOKIE_HTTPONLY =3D True
SESSION_COOKIE_NAME =3D 'sessionid'
SESSION_COOKIE_PATH =3D '/'
SESSION_COOKIE_SAMESITE =3D 'Lax'
SESSION_COOKIE_SECURE =3D False
SESSION_ENGINE =3D 'django.contrib.sessions.backends.db'
SESSION_EXPIRE_AT_BROWSER_CLOSE =3D False
SESSION_FILE_PATH =3D None
SESSION_SAVE_EVERY_REQUEST =3D False
SESSION_SERIALIZER =3D
'django.contrib.sessions.serializers.PickleSerializer'
SETTINGS_MODULE =3D 'settings'
SHORT_DATETIME_FORMAT =3D 'm/d/Y P'
SHORT_DATE_FORMAT =3D 'm/d/Y'
SIGNING_BACKEND =3D 'django.core.signing.TimestampSigner'
SILENCED_SYSTEM_CHECKS =3D []
SITE_ID =3D 1
SOCIALACCOUNT_PROVIDERS =3D {}
STATICFILES_DIRS =3D '()'
STATICFILES_FINDERS =3D
"('django.contrib.staticfiles.finders.FileSystemFinder',
'django.contrib.staticfiles.finders.AppDirectoriesFinder',
'compressor.finders.CompressorFinder')"
STATICFILES_STORAGE =3D
'django.contrib.staticfiles.storage.StaticFilesStorage'
STATIC_ROOT =3D '/var/lib/mailman3/web/static'
STATIC_URL =3D '/mailman3/static/'
TEMPLATES =3D [{'BACKEND':
'django.template.backends.django.DjangoTemplates', 'DIRS': [],
'APP_DIRS': True, 'OPTIONS': {'context_processors':
['django.template.context_processors.debug',
'django.template.context_processors.i18n',
'django.template.context_processors.media',
'django.template.context_processors.static',
'django.template.context_processors.tz',
'django.template.context_processors.csrf',
'django.template.context_processors.request',
'django.contrib.auth.context_processors.auth',
'django.contrib.messages.context_processors.messages',
'django_mailman3.context_processors.common',
'hyperkitty.context_processors.common',
'postorius.context_processors.postorius']}}]
TEST_NON_SERIALIZED_APPS =3D []
TEST_RUNNER =3D 'django.test.runner.DiscoverRunner'
THOUSAND_SEPARATOR =3D ','
TIME_FORMAT =3D 'P'
TIME_INPUT_FORMATS =3D ['%H:%M:%S', '%H:%M:%S.%f', '%H:%M']
TIME_ZONE =3D 'Africa/Johannesburg'
USE_I18N =3D True
USE_L10N =3D True
USE_THOUSAND_SEPARATOR =3D False
USE_TZ =3D True
USE_X_FORWARDED_HOST =3D True
USE_X_FORWARDED_PORT =3D False
WSGI_APPLICATION =3D 'wsgi.application'
X_FRAME_OPTIONS =3D 'DENY'
YEAR_MONTH_FORMAT =3D 'F Y'
1 year, 3 months
Re: Default moderation for new members
by Seth Seeger
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, at 9:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> > I’d like to have new members who join my lists have their posting ability set to moderated. (After their first legitimate post, they would set to be unmoderated.) I haven’t been able to find this, though I’m suspecting the language has changed.
>
>
> In Postorius set Settings -> Message Acceptance -> "Default action to
> take when a member posts to the list" to Hold for moderation.
>
> This is the action which will be taken for a post from a member whose
> individual Moderation is List Default as it is for all new members.
>
> Then when a post from that member is held, if you click the subject in
> the held messages view, a dialog opens showing the message content with
> Accept, Reject and Discard buttons and a dropdown list you can use to
> set that member's Moderation to Default processing.
>
> Default processing is generally what you want as it bypasses the
> moderation hold but still applies other tests such as header filters,
> administrivia, implicit-dest, max-recipients, max-size, etc.
So I've set my "Default action to take when a member posts to the list" to "hold". I'm just unclear on what I want to set each member's moderation action to... defer or accept? (I've been reading the docs, but I'm not clear on the difference.)
Thanks,
Seth
5 years, 10 months
Re: Moving existing lists to a new domain
by Mark Sapiro
On 9/18/24 10:13, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
>
> Since all the lists for the given domain will be moving to the same
> unused new domain on the existing server, and can move at the same
> time, I suppose this could be done through (offline if necessary)
> backend database update queries.
Yes.
For the mailing list, the only changes needed are to the mailinglist
table; A query like
```
UPDATE mailinglist SET mail_host = 'new.domain' WHERE mail_host =
'old_domain';
```
would do, but this leaves the question of list_id. According to RFC
2919, section 4, the list_id should not change, but this is problematic
in that if it isn't changed, a Postorius URL like
https://example.com/mailman3/lists/list_name@new.domain will retrieve
the list, but https://example.com/mailman3/lists/list_name.new.domain
will not work. It would need to be
https://example.com/mailman3/lists/list_name.old.domain so to reduce
confusion, it may be better to update the list_id values
A query like the following after the above should do it
```
UPDATE mailinglist SET list_id = CONCAT(list_name, '.', mail_host) WHERE
mail_host = 'new_domain';
```
For HyperKitty, similar changes need to be made to the
hyperkitty_mailinglist table. The `name` column entries need to be
changed from `listname(a)old.domain` to `listname(a)new.domain` and the
`list_id` column entries need to be changed from `listname.old.domain`
to `listname.new.domain`
--
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San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
1 year, 1 month
Re: Issues with @gmail.com addresses
by Mohsen Masoudfar
I created a new list with this setting. This new created list can send to Gmail addresses, this is very strange, because I have changed the problem list (The list that cannot send to @gmail addresses) settings to match the new one, but still the issue is there.
The only difference is that the problem list has been imported from mailman2.
Question: is there a command line that displays all the settings of a list? I think it might be some hidden settings that are not visible in the UI?
Thanks
Mohsen
________________________________
From: Mohsen Masoudfar <mmasoudf(a)aaas.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 1:32 PM
To: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net>; mailman-users(a)mailman3.org <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org>
Subject: Re: [MM3-users] Re: Issues with @gmail.com addresses
Thank you Mark for your response as always!
I checked the lists having the issue of sending emails to @gmail.com subscribers. They had already these settings (so no changes):
DMARC Mitigate unconditionally : yes
DMARC mitigation action: Replace From: with list address
DMARC rejection notice: empty
DMARC wrapped message text: empty
I wonder three points:
* What would be the next action to fix the issue?
* This issue started around the beginning of August. Could it be due to some changes google made recently?
* Give the number of Gmail users, this should annoy a bigger community, are you seeing that many upset people?
Thanks,
Mohsen
________________________________
From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 4:17 PM
To: mailman-users(a)mailman3.org <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org>
Subject: [MM3-users] Re: Issues with @gmail.com addresses
[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
On 9/5/23 12:59, Mohsen Masoudfar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> since 8/1/2023 I get complains from users with @gmail.com addresses, that they are not getting any emails.
> I checked the logs and I see that the emails are going out:
>
> to=<xxxx(a)gmail.com>, relay=email-smtp.us-east-1.amazonaws.com[35.169.171.20]:587, delay=0.46, delays=0.03/0.06/0.13/0.24, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok xxx )
>
> But it seems the users are getting email delivered to them.
> I’ve advised them to check their spam, promotions, and social folders and to add the list address to their email safe-senders lists, but still no success.
> Is there any way to help this list members?
Even though gmail publishes a DMARC policy of none, it has recently
started enforcing a stricter policy for mail From: the gmail.com domain.
You need to apply DMARC mitigations to mail From: the gmail.com domain.
There are two ways to do this.
One way is to set DMARC Mitigations -> DMARC Mitigate unconditionally to
Yes (and set DMARC mitigation action appropriately)
The other way requires upgrading Postorius and Mailman core to the heads
of the GitLab branches (core=3.3.9b1, postorius=1.3.9b1). Doing this
enables a DMARC Addresses setting which can be set to `^.*(a)gmail\.com$`
to apply DMARC mitigatations to mail From: the gmail.com domain
regardless of it's published policy.
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San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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2 years, 1 month
Re: List Migration from MM2.1 -> MM3
by Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 1:31 AM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote:
> On 8/14/22 11:04, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > So I thought I have everything running. Fresh install of MM3 on
> > Ubuntu-22.04.
> >
> > I have created a list in postorius - it has the same name as my old list
> in
> > MM2.
> >
> > [image: MM3.png]
>
> Your image didn't make it through content filtering.
>
The image only showed a listing of the MLs that I created via postorius.
>
> What is the fully qualified name of the list
>
skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke
> > mailman@lists:~$ /opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/mailman import21
> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke /var/list/lists/skunkworks/config.pck
> > Usage: mailman import21 [OPTIONS] LISTSPEC PICKLE_FILE
> > Try 'mailman import21 -h' for help.
> >
> > Error: No such list: skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke
>
> Apparently the list you created is not named skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke
Apparently so, because:
mailman@lists:~$ /opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/mailman lists
No matching mailing lists found
mailman@lists:~$
Which is surprising, given this: https://imgur.com/a/LPrh42K
> > What am I missing?
>
> The Mailman 3 list skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke including that exact domain
> must exist in order to import to it. Try
>
> /opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/mailman create skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke
root@lists:/home/wash# su - mailman
mailman@lists:~$ /opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/mailman create
skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke
sh: 1: /usr/sbin/postmap: not found
sh: 1: /usr/sbin/postmap: not found
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/mailman", line 8, in <module>
sys.exit(main())
File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py",
line 1130, in __call__
return self.main(*args, **kwargs)
File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py",
line 1055, in main
rv = self.invoke(ctx)
File
"/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mailman/bin/mailman.py",
line 69, in invoke
return super().invoke(ctx)
File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py",
line 1657, in invoke
return _process_result(sub_ctx.command.invoke(sub_ctx))
File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py",
line 1404, in invoke
return ctx.invoke(self.callback, **ctx.params)
File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py",
line 760, in invoke
return __callback(*args, **kwargs)
File
"/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/click/decorators.py",
line 26, in new_func
return f(get_current_context(), *args, **kwargs)
File
"/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mailman/commands/cli_lists.py",
line 184, in create
mlist = create_list(fqdn_listname, owners)
File
"/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mailman/app/lifecycle.py",
line 100, in create_list
call_name(config.mta.incoming).create(mlist)
File
"/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mailman/mta/postfix.py",
line 93, in create
self.regenerate()
File
"/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mailman/mta/postfix.py",
line 133, in regenerate
raise RuntimeError(NL.join(errors))
RuntimeError: command failure: /usr/sbin/postmap
/opt/mailman/var/data/postfix_lmtp, 127, Key has expired
command failure: /usr/sbin/postmap /opt/mailman/var/data/postfix_domains,
127, Key has expired
Now that wants Postfix, while I don't use Postfix, but Exim as the MTA.
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3 years, 2 months
Re: Is it possible to add non-members in regex format in Mailman 3 ?
by Abhilash Raj
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, at 7:09 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> In mailman 2, I was able to add the non-members in the
> respective privileged box even using the regex also which will be used to
> add the domains instead of a single mail id.
>
> But in mailman 3, I am not allowed to add the non members in
> the regex format. Of course it is allowing me to add individual mail ids
> and give permissions. But I want to add a non-member which may be something
> like the entire cisco.com domain on which I want to set the rule.
>
You can do that with Postorius 1.3.3 (which was released recently) and Mailman Core 3.3.1.
> Please help me out by suggesting over this or if mailman 3 is
> not providing then please hint me out with a work around at least.
>
> --
> Thanks & Regards,
> Shashi Kanth.K
> 9052671936
>
>
>
>
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5 years, 4 months
mailman3-web MailingList matching query does not exist.
by Loïc Dachary
Hi,
The logs of mailman3-web are flooded with the following error. I suspect this is because I removed some mailing lists (using the hyperkitty web interface and the delete button) and the cache still references them.
Is there a job supposed to fix this at some point ?
Thanks in advance for any tip you can share :-)
ii python3-django-hyperkitty 1.3.2-1.1 all Web user interface to access GNU Mailman3 archives
ii python3-mailman-hyperkitty 1.1.0-9 all Mailman3 plugin to archive emails with HyperKitty
ii mailman3 3.2.1-1 all Mailing list management system
ii mailman3-web 0+20180916-10 all Django project integrating Mailman3 Postorius and HyperKitty
ii python3-django-mailman3 1.2.0-3 all Django library to help interaction with Mailman3 (Python 3 version)
ii python3-mailman-hyperkitty 1.1.0-9 all Mailman3 plugin to archive emails with HyperKitty
ii python3-mailmanclient 3.2.2-1 all Python bindings for Mailman3 REST API (Python 3 version)
Cheers
15:53:45 [Q] INFO Process-1:8 processing [rebuild_mailinglist_cache_for_month]
15:53:45 [Q] ERROR Failed [rebuild_mailinglist_cache_for_month] - MailingList matching query does not exist. : Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django_q/cluster.py", line 377, in worker
res = f(*task['args'], **task['kwargs'])
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/tasks.py", line 79, in _rebuild_mailinglist_cache_for_month
mlist = MailingList.objects.get(name=mlist_name)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/manager.py", line 85, in manager_method
return getattr(self.get_queryset(), name)(*args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/query.py", line 380, in get
self.model._meta.object_name
hyperkitty.models.mailinglist.DoesNotExist: MailingList matching query does not exist.
--
Loïc Dachary, Artisan Logiciel Libre
5 years
Re: message awaits moderator approval
by Eggert Ehmke
I think I solved that. The background might be of interest for other admins,
and for the developers.
I had set up some new mailing lists on that server. I also had deleted an old
mailing list for a domain that is no longer hosted on that server. To delete
the old mailing list, I used the methods provided by postorius.
Now it turned out that there were several relicts of the old list in the
database, in particular in the template table. I removed them using direct SQL
commands.
Now my new mailing lists work as expected.
Is this a bug in postorius? I think when I delete a mailing list, all relicts
should be deleted from the database.
Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2022, 14:46:56 CET schrieb Eggert Ehmke via Mailman-
users:
> When I send a mail to a list that exceeds the max size, I get the above
> answer. However, the moderator of that list does not get a message, and
> there is no entry in the list of hold back messages.
>
> This should be a configuration problem, on another list on the same server
> this works fine. I cannot find any differences in the settings.
>
>
>
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2 years, 10 months
Re: Pck files stuck in out queue
by Lieuallen, Thomas Otis
I ended up emailing the list. That email got stuck as well. So, I removed their template – and the message went through. So, that appears to have been the problem. But, not sure why.
Thank you
Tom Lieuallen
From: Lieuallen, Thomas Otis via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org>
Date: Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 3:25 PM
To: mailman-users(a)mailman3.org <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org>
Subject: [MM3-users] Re: Pck files stuck in out queue
[This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.]
Mark,
There were no apparent permissions problems on templates. I was getting the ‘Cannot connect to SMTP server’ message in mailman.log.
I did end up applying the patch to decorate.py and messages went through. I’ve since removed the patch, as I’m still looking for an answer and might as well let it queue up again.
The only thing that is making me ponder at the moment is that the list owners setup a template for list:member:regular:footer in postorius. It appears that each list has a copy of that file. The modifications I see in postorius are not in their …/templates/list/<listname>/en/list:member:regular:footer.txt file. Are their modifications stored somewhere else and causing the problem?
Thx
Tom Lieuallen
From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net>
Date: Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 2:22 PM
To: mailman-users(a)mailman3.org <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org>
Subject: [MM3-users] Re: Pck files stuck in out queue
[This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.]
On 2/6/25 12:42, Lieuallen, Thomas Otis via Mailman-users wrote:
> Running Mailman 3.3.10
>
> I have 11x pck files stuck in my out queue. There tends to always be a .bak file as well. If I run ‘ls -l’, the files are continually updated and rotated through, just as fast as I can look.
Are old ones being delivered and new ones added or the same ones just
being renamed? I suspect the latter and I suspect the issue in that case
is probably due to the OUT runner trying to access a template file like
list:member:{regular|generic}:{header|footer}.txt and not having
permission. See the last two posts in the thread at
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.mai…<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.mai…><https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/…>
> I believe they’re all for one list. When I use ‘strings’ on one to get a hint of what’s inside, I see the list members at the bottom (recipients). One of them consistently has ‘!’ before their email address. Not sure if that’s a clue. Just no other reason to suspect that, though.
The files are python pickles and `strings` shows lots of stuff. The !
may be something in the pickle that's not part of the email address. The
way to examine these files is with the `mailman qfile` command.
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