On 5/14/20 2:49 PM, Mohsen Masoudfar wrote:

It is on Ubuntu18.04 and has been installed with Ubuntu package Mailman-full. There is no update available yet. So it looks like I cannot use the easy way of modifying the templates. Question: Is there a way to achieve the same by updating the code?

You don't have to modify code. You can set a footer in Mailman's file hierarchy. There is a var/templates directory, maybe somewhere like /var/lib/mailman/templates in the Ubuntu package. This directory can contain subdirectories lists, domains and site. These may or may not existb but the layout is the site directory contains subdirectories for language codes, i.e. 'en', 'fr', 'de', etc. The domains directory contains subdirectories for domains like 'example.com', example.net, etc. and those contain the language subdirectories. The lists directory contains subdirectories for lists like list.example.com and those contain the language subdirectories.

Now when mailman is looking for a template, it looks in this hierarchy first, e.g. when looking for an English language footer for the list@example.com list for regular members it will look in this order:

templates/lists/list.example.com/en/list:member:regular:footer.txt templates/domains/example.com/en/list:member:regular:footer.txt templates/site/en/list:member:regular:footer.txt

before falling back to a default. The name for a digest footer is list:member:digest:footer.txt, or there can be a list:member:generic:footer.txt file which is for both regular and digest deliveries.

There is documentation at <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/templates.html>, but it can be difficult to follow.

<https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/templates.html#templated-texts> describes the various templates and the substitutions available. Note that the name of a file in the above hierarchy is the template name with .txt appended.

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On 6/7/20 9:40 AM, kelly.close@lrewater.com wrote:

So I have a template file here: /var/lib/mailman3/templates/lists/f2p2-test.udfcd-lists.org/en/list:member:regular:footer.txt

I had to create everything below templates/ as that folder was empty on install. I made sure what I created had the same permissions as the templates folder. I'm not sure what else to do. Is there a configuration file somewhere perhaps the identifies the path of the templates folder and maybe I need to adjust it?

There are two things. One is the location of the templates/ directory. That is located in $var_dir and the value of that depends on the settings for

[mailman]
layout:

and

[paths.<layout_value>]
var_dir:

in mailman.cfg. I'm not certain, but I think /var/lib/mailman3/ is correct for the Debian/Ubuntu package.

The other thing that affects this is the value of the URI for the template in the database. This is somewhat tricky. The docs are at <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/templates.html>, but there isn't an example of retrieving URIs via REST. I.e. something like

curl -urestadmin:restpass
http://localhost:8001/3.1/lists/f2p2-test.udfcd-lists.org/uris

should work, but returns a 404 when I try it on one of my lists that has a URI.

I look in mailman's database with a query like

select name, context, uri from template;

What you are looking for is a row with name = list:member:regular:footer and context = f2p2-test.udfcd-lists.org. If there is one and it has a uri other than mailman:///$listname/$language/list:member:regular:footer.txt then Mailman will look there for the template.

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On 6/7/20 3:22 PM, kelly.close@lrewater.com wrote:

Well, Glory Be! My .cfg settings were fine but the public.template table was empty (I'm using PostgreSQL and accessing it with pgAdmin). I had not considered that there needed to be database content representing the template but it makes sense. Everything else is in there, which is the whole reason why we went with Mailman3 in the first place.

After manually creating this record in the public.template table it WORKED!!! name = list:member:regular:footer context = f2p2-test.udfcd-lists.org uri = file:////var/lib/mailman3/templates/lists/f2p2-test.udfcd-lists.org/en/list:member:regular:footer.txt (username and password were left blank)

username and password are only required for basic auth to the URI if needed so blank is correct.

However, you shouldn't have needed to do that. I only mentioned it in case there was an entry for the name and context with a URI pointing elsewhere. The default if there is no entry is to use Mailman's normal search rules which include templates/lists/<list-id>/en/list:member:regular:footer.txt.

So I have to think that without that entry, it was searching a different templates/ directory.

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I agree Mark. I can't see the issue but those search rules are clear. I'm glad to know I can "force" it to work with the table records but I would like to figure out the more systemic issue in case it could affect other things. ~Kelly

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On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:14 PM Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:

On 6/7/20 3:47 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

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However, you shouldn't have needed to do that. I only mentioned it in case there was an entry for the name and context with a URI pointing elsewhere. The default if there is no entry is to use Mailman's normal search rules which include templates/lists/<list-id>/en/list:member:regular:footer.txt.

The search rules are documented in the code at < https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/utilities/i18n....

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On 3/14/22 04:26, Stanisław Findeisen via Mailman-users wrote:

Speaking of this: how do I get a nice *-leave address, like the one in the footer below this message? There doesn't seem to be a template placeholder for this.

Yes, there is not a placeholder for the -leave address. This list uses

To unsubscribe send an email to ${short_listname}-leave@${domain}

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