On 8/7/24 12:55, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote:
On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 1:05 PM IEM Network Operation Center (IOhannes m zmölnig) <noc@iem.at> wrote:
- ./data: empty
With a Postfic MTA situation, that would have had some files. So you don't use Postfix.
- ./lists: empty directories named after each list (i think these are used by the MTA to determine whether it should hand over a mail to the mm3-ltmp)
True, at least according to Exim MTA.
indeed, i'm using exim. i guess these directories are named like they are for backwards compatibility. if the sysadmin is supposed to ever do something with them, it would be nice if there was some (discoverable) documentation (like a README in Mailman's var; or the yet-to-be-written mm3-to-mm3 migration guide; even if those files/directories are mentioned in the Bible for installing Mailman, i don't think this can be found by a normal administrator (it's not reasonable to assume that one should look up each file/directory in Mailman's var to see if it is needed).
- ./locks: plenty of lock-files, most of them rather stale (as in: 3 years old)
So MM3 on that host hasn't been running or?
it *is* running. i do not know why it didn't cleanup.
- ./messages: a couple of old messages (i think all of them have been
held for approval)
- ./queue: dirtree without files
- ./templates: more templates for the existing mailinglists, though they don't seem to be used (are these the fallbacks when I remove a template via the webinterface?)
Yes.
so can i just ignore them?
So out here we focus so much on the following as the Bible for installing and running MM3: https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html
probably. sorry for being obtuse.
afaict, the documentation is written for people setting things up from scratch, where the paths are mostly setup automatically, and you only need to configure them manually for interoperability with other software (e.g. when using postfix as the MTA, the docs tell the admin to ensure that both mm3 and postfix communicate via the same paths). i guess i'm confused because it is unclear to me, which of these paths hold persistent data, and which are just for ephemeral things (like sockets).
mgfasdr IOhannes
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