Mark,
First, thank you for your patience.
So, I scoured my logs looking for mentions of -join or -request emails and couldn’t find anything. So I went back and checked the source for one the emails that was in moderation and found this:
Received: from esa.hc4021-78.iphmx.com (esa.hc4021-78.iphmx.com [207.54.93.77]) by cc-postoffice-01.cc.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF674400A3C for <demo-list@mailman.cc.gatech.edu>; Wed, 22 Apr 2026 17:27:54 -0400 (EDT)
Which in the logs looked like this: Apr 22 17:28:02 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/pickup[655521]: AB3E2400ACA: uid=1028 from=<mailman> Apr 22 17:28:02 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/cleanup[676116]: AB3E2400ACA: message-id=<20260422212802.AB3E2400ACA@cc-postoffice-01.cc.gatech.edu> Apr 22 17:28:02 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: AB3E2400ACA: from=<mailman@cc-postoffice-01.cc.gatech.edu>, size=1537, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 22 17:28:02 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/local[675259]: AB3E2400ACA: to=<mailman@cc-postoffice-01.cc.gatech.edu>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=local, delay=0.63, delays=0.63/0/0/0, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to mailbox) Apr 22 17:28:02 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: AB3E2400ACA: removed [root@cc-postoffice-01 ~]# journalctl -u postfix | grep AF674400A3C Apr 22 17:27:54 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/smtpd[677096]: AF674400A3C: client=esa.hc4021-78.iphmx.com[207.54.93.77] Apr 22 17:27:54 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/cleanup[676116]: AF674400A3C: message-id=<BN0PR07MB876638D9CD221355993FF318A02D2@BN0PR07MB8766.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Apr 22 17:27:54 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: AF674400A3C: from=<shae@cc.gatech.edu>, size=14593, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 22 17:27:54 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/lmtp[677032]: AF674400A3C: to=<demo-list@mailman.cc.gatech.edu>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.3, delays=0.28/0/0.01/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) Apr 22 17:27:54 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: AF674400A3C: removed
But when you dig into the source of the message the actual to field is:
From: "Brinson, Jason T" <shae@cc.gatech.edu> To: "demo-list-join@cc.gatech.edu" <demo-list-join@cc.gatech.edu> Subject: Test Thread-Topic: Test Thread-Index: AQHc0p7SggqXD6aw1U2cnq5Fx0tjdg== Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 21:27:52 +0000 Message-ID: <BN0PR07MB876638D9CD221355993FF318A02D2@BN0PR07MB8766.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
The Message-ID matches what is in the log file, and it is obviously not addressed to just demo-list. I am missing something obvious here I feel.
Jason "Shae" Brinson (They/Them)
IT Support Professional Sr.
Georgia Institute of Technology
College of Computing
801 Atlantic Drive NW
Atlanta, GA 30332
Phone: 404-894-7065
Email: jason.brinson@cc.gatech.edu<mailto:jason.brinson@cc.gatech.edu>
From: Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2026 at 15:59 To: mailman-users@mailman3.org <mailman-users@mailman3.org> Subject: [MM3-users] Re: Command Emails not Working
On 4/22/26 10:23 AM, Brinson, Jason T via Mailman-users wrote:
As requested:
Posfix log (journalctl -u | grep demo-list): Apr 22 11:14:16 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: E6943400A9D: from=<demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu>>, size=1853, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 22 11:14:48 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/lmtp[523634]: F1957400A9D: to=<demo-list+1a65bace2719a299598865b8e3bf7b78d1ec0a5f@mailman.cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list+1a65bace2719a299598865b8e3bf7b78d1ec0a5f@mailman.cc.gatech.edu>>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.59, delays=0.5/0.01/0.01/0.07, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) Apr 22 11:14:50 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: 089D0400A9D: from=<demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu>>, size=20898, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 22 11:14:50 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/lmtp[523634]: 089D0400A9D: to=<demo-list-owner@mailman.cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-owner@mailman.cc.gatech.edu>>, orig_to=<demo-list-owner@cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-owner@cc.gatech.edu>>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.02, delays=0/0/0.01/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) Apr 22 11:14:50 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: 40995400A9D: from=<demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu>>, size=1322, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 22 11:14:52 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: 1063C400A9D: from=<demo-list-bounces+jbrinson3=gatech.edu@cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-bounces+jbrinson3=gatech.edu@cc.gatech.edu>>, size=21257, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 22 11:20:47 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: 9D5E0400A3C: from=<demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu>>, size=1860, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 22 11:21:56 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/lmtp[526023]: EEB2640083E: to=<demo-list+ae434bc0e6da7e08d0b66c8abf94e259e0c5e8a1@mailman.cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list+ae434bc0e6da7e08d0b66c8abf94e259e0c5e8a1@mailman.cc.gatech.edu>>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.28, delays=0.26/0/0.01/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) Apr 22 11:21:57 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: C12EA40083E: from=<demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu>>, size=1326, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 22 11:21:57 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: C6D87400A9D: from=<demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-bounces@cc.gatech.edu>>, size=24425, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 22 11:21:57 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/lmtp[526023]: C6D87400A9D: to=<demo-list-owner@mailman.cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-owner@mailman.cc.gatech.edu>>, orig_to=<demo-list-owner@cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-owner@cc.gatech.edu>>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.02, delays=0/0/0.01/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) Apr 22 11:21:59 cc-postoffice-01 postfix/qmgr[523389]: A72C940083E: from=<demo-list-bounces+jbrinson3=gatech.edu@cc.gatech.edu<mailto:demo-list-bounces+jbrinson3=gatech.edu@cc.gatech.edu>>, size=24784, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
I don't see any messages there about mail to=<demo-list-join@cc.gatech.edu> or to=<demo-list-request@cc.gatech.edu>.
Don't use journalctl. do, e.g.,
grep 'demo-list-(join|request)' /var/log/mail.log
and then grep the queue IDs of the messages found to see all the relevant messages.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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