[MM3-users] Re: clarifying configuration

On 6/30/20 11:29 AM, trewtus+200629maitr@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Team, I'm new to Mailman and after some failed attempts to install from git on CentOS8, I have just installed it on Ubuntu 20.04 using mostly aptitude. But it's not quite working and I want to increase the log level to better understand the problem. I did see another post that suggested that I add to /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg

[logging.template] level: debug

But that doesn't work for me. For example, after using that mailman conf doesn't list and debug values and as far as I can tell, the service, even after restarting, is not logging any more than it was. On the other hand, if I add

[logging.smtp] level: debug

Invoking mailman conf will reflect that new loglevel.

The settings in the logging.template section set defaults for the other logging.* sections. In particular, the logging.debug section sets level: info so setting

[logging.template] level: debug

will not affect the setting for logging.debug.

See mailman/config/schema.cfg which is augmented by mailman/config/mailman.cfg and by your own mailman.cfg.

This started me down the path of trying to figure out the configuration system of mailman in hope that that will save me time down the road. I have read https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/config/docs/config.html but that doesn't seem to agree with what I'm seeing.

For an additional example, my mailman.cfg file has a "logging.debian" section, but I don't see that section listed in the mailman conf output. Why would that be?

Because you have installed the Debian/Ubuntu package and that setting is specific to that package and probably only defined in their local mailman.cfg. The reason you don't see it in mailman conf, is it's broken. Without a -s/--section argument, it only lists sections defined in schema.cfg. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/736>, <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/666> and <https://pythonhosted.org/lazr.config/lazr/config/docs/usage.html>.

If you do mailman conf -s logging.debian you'll see it.

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