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[MM3-users] Re: Verification emails 'helo' rejected

by Greg Newby

Success! Below: On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 10:52 AM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 10/14/24 12:42, Greg Newby via Mailman-users wrote: > > > > Here are the corresponding logfile entries from mailmanweb.log: > > smtplib.SMTPRecipientsRefused: {'redacted(a)gmail.com': (504, b'5.5.2 > <mail>: > > Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname')} > > > > and from mail.log: > > Oct 14 12:06:26 domain postfix/smtpd[722764]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from > > localhost[127.0.0.1]: 504 5.5.2 <mail>: Helo command rejected: need > > fully-qualified hostname; from=<root(a)lists.domain.tld> > to=<root@localhost> > > proto=ESMTP helo=<mail> > > > > lists.domain.tld is the domain for Mailman3. I don't know why it's trying > > to send email from root@. > > > I think the mail.log entry is for the DSN for the failure. The issue is > the HELO/EHLO command. Try the following in your venv > ``` > (venv) ...:~$ python > Python 3... > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > >>> import socket > >>> socket.getfqdn() > ``` > If that returns `localhost`, that's the issue. I think you can fix it by > putting a fully qualified domain name in /etc/hostname. > > That was the answer. I had the short hostname, not the fully qualified domain name. Thank you! The logfile messages were pretty confusing since they did not mention the hostname at all. Postfix was not the problem, as you wrote separately. ~ Greg

1 year, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty search on Message-ID?

by Bryan Fields

On 12/5/24 2:02 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Message-ID is not one of the fields indexed. These are defined at > https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/blob/master/hyperkitty/search_index… Looks like it would trivial to add there. Think anyone would be opposed to adding support for this? > A bit obscure for laypersons, but one can compute the message_id_hash > from the Message-ID > ``` > from base64 import b32encode > from hashlib import sha1 > > def get_message_id_hash(msg_id): > return b32encode(sha1(msg_id).digest()).decode() > ``` This is great to know. I assume the thread ID is generated the same way? > I can't help but wonder though how one has the Message-ID without having > the message. I'm wondering in general how often if ever the layperson > would be searching the archive for a Message-ID. Well I've been working with an import of 34 years of mail archives (200k messages or so), and we have several people spot checking what we have and fixing threading based on their archive. Since they have the message already, it would be easy to search for the message ID for them. The older archives predate RFC2822 by a decade or so and in-reply-to is missing or just wrong on quite a few of them. From what I can see it was migrated from LISTSERV to majordomo in 1993, then to mailman2 in 2008, and what I have for an archive was from the mail to NNTP spool, at least for the pre-1993 list. Thanks, -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

1 year, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Sudden increase in "***UNCHECKED***" in email subjects

by Dave Clements

Hi Peter and Mark, Thanks for the insight and fixes. We (we being Nate who is also on this list) think it was a lack of virtual memory on the server. This crashed ClamAV and it could not restart. Thus our mail really was unchecked. Restarting processes and cleaning up some things has fixed this. Cheers, Dave C On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 4:07 PM Peter Adebahr via Mailman-users < mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > On 7/18/20 7:46 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 7/18/20 9:30 AM, Dave Clements wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I have just noticed a big jump in the number of emails going out with > >> "***UNCHECKED***" added to the subject line. > > > > > > This does not come from Mailman. Some milter or other process in your > > MTA or elsewhere in the delivery chain is adding this to the Subject: > > > > Hi Dave, > > I had experienced the same symptom a while ago. For me, it was amavis > doing this. This behaviour could be corrected by adding this line to > amavisd.conf: > > > # $undecipherable_subject_tag = '[UNCHECKED] '; # undef disables it > $undecipherable_subject_tag = undef; > # > > Hope it helps :) > > Best regards, > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > -- https://bcc2020.github.io/ https://galaxyproject.org/

5 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: 404 on fresh install (Debian11)

by Jeremy Stanley

On 2023-03-23 09:07:02 -0700 (-0700), Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] > bookworm (testing) and sid (unstable) do have current versions of > Mailman core and django-mailman3 and possibly mailman3-web > 0+20200530-2.1 has current Postorius and HyperKitty, but those are > generally not the Debian packages that most users would install. And those will also become out of date over time, because Debian is a stable server distribution so intentionally freezes the versions of software it supplies and backports only critical/security fixes to those increasingly outdated versions when warranted. Basically it's a question of whether users value stability with a bit of security support over newest versions of software and new features. The upstream Mailman packages on PyPI (and container images) cater to users who want the latest versions of the software, packages in stable server distros like Debian cater to users who want to safely go years between behavior changes in software. Both are valid choices, it just comes down to the user's specific situation. That said, when you have trouble with the packaged versions of software in Debian, the expectation is that you ask on Debian mailing lists and possibly report bugs in the Debian bug tracker, rather than burdening upstream software maintainers with details that might be specific to choices or mistakes in Debian's packages. The package maintainers in Debian generally forward bug reports upstream if they determine the issue you've encountered isn't related to how it's been packaged, isn't already fixed upstream (in which case they might backport the fix), et cetera. -- Jeremy Stanley

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Member Issue Discovered

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Victoriano Giralt writes: > El vie, 23-10-2020 a las 08:19 -0700, Mark Sapiro escribió: > > > > This would be more difficult for Postorius/Hyperkitty because those > > users are Django users, but that isn't an issue for Affinity. > > > > All of a sudden, an idea has dawned on me ... Wouldn't it be possible for > Postorius/Hyperkitty, both Django applications, to use Mailman core user > model as their User model? It is just a setting for Django > (AUTH_USER_MODEL). I find the "just a setting" claim a bit implausible. I suspect a certain amount of replumbing of Postorius and HyperKitty will be necessary to get it to work. Most important, the "AUTH_" is pretty scary. Mailman core has *no* authentication built in. It is assumed to be firewalled off from the rest of the world with only access from Postorius and HyperKitty permitted. Can you expand on how hard it would be to do this? Remember that some Mailman instances are either big targets (eg, Apple) or require good security for content reasons (lists for doctors' patient support groups, domestic violence support groups). This is not a great authn/authz model in the modern Internet, but as far as I can see changing it is going to be quite a lot of work, and none of us are authentication specialists (although Abhilash did study security, I don't think he specialized in authentication tech) -- providing reasonably reliable and secure authentication services, especially "social auth" (OpenAuth, OpenID etc) is an important reason we went with Django in the first place. Steve

5 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: hyperkitty threads by month question

by Bryan Fields

On 7/25/24 7:04 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 7/25/24 11:20, Bryan Fields wrote: >> When this happens, I get an email error below. > > > This is really wierd. See below. > >> line 88, in reverse >> return resolver._reverse_with_prefix(view, prefix, *args, **kwargs) >> File >> "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/urls/resolvers.py", line 828, in _reverse_with_prefix >> raise NoReverseMatch(msg) >> >> Exception Type: NoReverseMatch at >> /archives/list/nanog(a)nanog-mm3.keekles.org/ >> Exception Value: Reverse for 'hk_archives_with_month' with keyword >> arguments '{'year': 999, 'mlist_fqdn': 'nanog(a)nanog-mm3.keekles.org', >> 'month': 12}' not found. 2 pattern(s) tried: >> ['archives/list/(?P<mlist_fqdn>[^/@]+@[^/@]+)/(?P<year>\\d{4})/(?P<month>\\d\\d?)/$', 'hyperkitty/list/(?P<mlist_fqdn>[^/@]+@[^/@]+)/(?P<year>\\d{4})/(?P<month>\\d\\d?)/$'] >> Raised during: hyperkitty.views.mlist.overview > > > It appears to be trying to get the threads for December, 999. > > What do these queries show? > > SELECT * FROM hyperkitty_thread WHERE EXTRACT(year FROM date_active) < 1000; > > SELECT id FROM hyperkitty_email WHERE EXTRACT(year FROM date) < 1000; mailman=> \c mailmanweb You are now connected to database "mailmanweb" as user "mailman". mailmanweb=> SELECT * FROM hyperkitty_thread WHERE EXTRACT(year FROM date_active) < 1000; id | thread_id | date_active | category_id | mailinglist_id | starting_email_id -------+----------------------------------+------------------------+-------------+----------------+------------------- 35670 | GHLCKUC7TDEBAI27SKRQN5PWX3TGB26Q | 0102-04-15 20:06:12+00 | | 3 | 150555 (1 row) mailmanweb=> SELECT id FROM hyperkitty_email WHERE EXTRACT(year FROM date) < 1000; id -------- 136872 150555 (2 rows) Does this mean it imported archives with an invalid date somehow? Thanks, -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

1 year, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: redirecting -bounces replies

by Hirayama, Pat

HI Mark, On 6/26/25 13:16, Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 6/26/25 11:37, Hirayama, Pat wrote: >> >> When I look at the domains in mailman-core, I see: >> >>>>> show_domains() >> <Domain fhcrc.org> >> <Domain fredhutch.org> >> <Domain lists.fhcrc.org, , alias: lists.fredhutch.org> >> <Domain lists.hanc.info, , alias: > >> - owner: cit-sys-engineering(a)fredhutch.org > > >This is part of the problem. The alias domain for a list should not be a >real domain. Apparently, someone set this up so that mail to lists in >the lists.fhcrc.org domain would go to the corresponding list in the >lists.fredhutch.org domain. I think that may actually work, but you need >more. In order to add recipients to the patest-bounces addresses, the >recipient domains need to have an alias domain. In the cases below the >domains lists.fredhutch.org and lists.hanc.info. E.g set an alias domain >for lists.fredhutch.org to x.lists.fredhutch.org and for >lists.hanc.info to x.lists.hanc.info. Ah, I think that makes sense. So, add the alias domains here or through the CLI: [cid:3f6bbb96-1ec3-4bdd-9a59-991fc9d1e31b] Oh, does the alias domain x.lists.hanc.info (etc) need to be resolvable in DNS, or will it be internal just to Mailman? Thanks, -p Pat Hirayama Pronouns: he/him/his Systems Engineer IT | Systems Engineering Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center O 206.667.4856 phirayam(a)fredhutch.org ___________________________________________ Mailman's content filtering has removed the following MIME parts from this message. Content-Type: image/png Name: image.png Replaced multipart/alternative part with first alternative.

11 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Disable Sign-up per domain

by Mark

On 2025-08-01 19:40, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Please confirm that the issue only occurs with the modified > /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django_mailman3/views/user_adapter.py > and does not occur with the original .../user_adapter.py. > Hi Mark, In working through this I reverted the test server (which had the working "Disable") back to original, then re-applied the changes, and now I'm getting the same errors as on the Production server. I think it might be me screwing up somewhere. It's doing my head in today so I'll sleep on it and have another crack at it tomorrow. STEPS TAKEN =========== 1. Reset the "Test" server back to original. (a) I put the original "user_adapter.py" back in place. It contains: ... def is_open_for_signup(self, req): return False ... (b) Ensured that "settings.py" had the following completely removed: ... ACCOUNT_ADAPTER = 'django_mailman3.views.user_adapter.DisableSignupAdapter' ... (c) systemctl restart mailman3 systemctl restart mailmanweb (d) Reloaded browser with "lists" page for each domain and clicked "SignUp" on each. Result: As expected, both domains correctly displayed their SignUp pages. ----------- 2. Made the following changes to the "Test" server. (a) Edited /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django_mailman3/views/user_adapter.py It now contains: ... # def is_open_for_signup(self, req): # return False def is_open_for_signup(self, req): if req.META['HTTP_HOST'] == 'lists.MYDOMAIN.COM': return False else: return True ... (b) Appended to - /etc/mailman3/settings.py - the following: ACCOUNT_ADAPTER = 'django_mailman3.views.user_adapter.DisableSignupAdapter' (c) systemctl restart mailman3 systemctl restart mailmanweb Result: 502 Bad Gateway page and log shows ... raise self.model.DoesNotExist( django.contrib.sites.models.Site.DoesNotExist: Site matching query does not exist. ===========

10 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: translating templates (was: Re: spanish localization)

by Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7)

On 15/2/21 16:57, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Finally, although I said previously that the translated templates should > be submitted as a merge request, that can still be done, but is not > necessary. They can be translated in weblate. See > <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> > and<https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/825>. I had the templates translated now in UTF-8 coding map. I copied all of them en a new directory (es) under mailman package templates (as I can see are other languages): /usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/mailman # ls templates __init__.py de es it __pycache__ en fr sk /usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/mailman # ls templates/es domain:admin:notice:new-list.txt list:member:regular:header.txt help.txt list:user:action:invite.txt list:admin:action:post.txt list:user:action:subscribe.txt list:admin:action:subscribe.txt list:user:action:unsubscribe.txt list:admin:action:unsubscribe.txt list:user:notice:goodbye.txt list:admin:notice:disable.txt list:user:notice:hold.txt list:admin:notice:removal.txt list:user:notice:no-more-today.txt list:admin:notice:subscribe.txt list:user:notice:post.txt list:admin:notice:unrecognized.txt list:user:notice:probe.txt list:admin:notice:unsubscribe.txt list:user:notice:refuse.txt list:member:digest:header.txt list:user:notice:rejected.txt list:member:digest:masthead.txt list:user:notice:warning.txt list:member:generic:footer.txt list:user:notice:welcome.txt But mailman isn't aware of them (I restarted the server). May I have to execute some process as "compilemessages" to mailman be capable to use them? Now mailman is using the "en" templates for sure. After testing them I'll do both of the suggestionsyou made: a merge request AND the revision and translation via Weblate.

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Possibly more a Postfix question than a mailman one one but...

by Paul Tomblin

On Sat, Jun 13, 2026, at 12:47 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Mark Sapiro writes: > > On 6/12/26 3:03 PM, Paul Tomblin via Mailman-users wrote: > > > > > > Can i append or pre-pend another transport file in the > > > transport_maps listing and put in the entry for this domain > > > that's been bouncing people off my list because of too many > > > simultaneous connections? > > > > I don't know what the transport for this domain would be, but the > > transport_maps setting can contain any number of lookup tables. See > > <https://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#transport_maps>. > > Not sure exactly what you want; check the doc Mark recommends for I'm trying to set the destination_concurrency_limit, but only for one outgoing domain (rochester.rr.com) which complains of too many incoming connections when my neighborhood announcement mailing list, which has about 50 people with rochester.rr.com email address subscribed. 39 of those members just got unsubscribed, and since this list is run for little old ladies who barely understand that their computer has to be on in order to receive email, we tend to manage the subscriptions and re-subscriptions manually rather than ask the end users to do it. In mailman 2, I had my mailing list aliases in the virtual_alias_maps, and now in mailman 3 it's in transport-maps, and it's meant that some of the configuration I had before doesn't work. -- Paul Tomblin

5 days, 6 hours

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