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[MM3-users] Re: message duplication and an NNTP related error

by Laurens Kils-Hütten

Am Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 03:59:23PM -0800 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 2/23/26 13:56, Laurens Kils-Huetten wrote: > > > > I have recently installed mailman3 on a Debian trixie system. > > How? By following > <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html>, installing > Debian packages or ?? I've used the debian packages: apt install mailman3-full mailman3-web > > > While I managed to set up most of it (the mailing lists, postorius and > > also a working gateway to our inn2 news server) I'm seeing a weird > > duplication of messages, that seems to be related to the error > > messages posted below. > > > What is the result from the command `mailman conf -s nntp`? [nntp] gatenews_every: 5m [nntp] host: localhost [nntp] password: [nntp] port: 119 [nntp] remove_headers: nntp-posting-host nntp-posting-date x-trace x-complaints-to xref date-received posted posting-version relay-version received [nntp] rewrite_duplicate_headers: To X-Original-To CC X-Original-CC Content-Transfer-Encoding X-Original-Content-Transfer-Encoding MIME-Version X-MIME-Version [nntp] user: > What are all the settings for the list at Settings->Newsgroup Gateway in > Postorius? Gateway to mail: yes Gateway to news: yes Linked newsgroup: grenzland.test Newsgroup moderation: Not Moderated NNTP include subject prefix: No > > When I switch off gating to nntp the duplication stops. Also only mail > > messages are duplicated, not the postings on the news server. > > > > Any pointers as to what to look into, or how to remedy this problem > > are greatly appreciated :) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Laurens > > > > here come the error logs: > > Feb 23 20:39:08 2026 (2776528) ACCEPT: <e4938b85cbd75c0b04867514fc0b8ad9(a)betola.de> > > Feb 23 20:39:10 2026 (2776528) ACCEPT: <e4938b85cbd75c0b04867514fc0b8ad9(a)betola.de> > > The above duplicate post comes before the following error, so I don't think > the error is related to the duplication. makes sense, however when I set both Gateway flags to no I don't get those duplicates anymore. And obviously no error since mailman won't talk to NNTP. > > Feb 23 20:39:12 2026 (2776530) <e4938b85cbd75c0b04867514fc0b8ad9(a)betola.de> NNTP error for test(a)grenzland.club > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/runners/nntp.py", line 94, in _dispose > > conn.post(fp) > > ~~~~~~~~~^^^^ > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nntplib/__init__.py", line 916, in post > > return self._post('POST', data) > > ~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nntplib/__init__.py", line 909, in _post > > return self._getresp() > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^ > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nntplib/__init__.py", line 492, in _getresp > > raise NNTPTemporaryError(resp) > > nntplib.NNTPTemporaryError: 441 Can't set system Injection-Info header field > > This is a response from your nntp server. > > Note: the above traceback indicates that this nntplib is standard-nntplib > from PyPI which is normally only installed if Python is 3.13. If this is > Python 3.13 and you have installed Mailman from other than the head of the > gitlab branch, see <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> It's python 3.13.5 I looked at the patch and it seems like the change is already applied to the debian package. Thank you so much for having a look at this! Cheers, lkh > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to lkh(a)grenzland.club -- https://social.sdf-eu.org/web/@lkh IRC: lkh on Libera.chat and others Discord: lkh#2319

1 month, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: very few moderation capabilities for moderators

by Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7)

On 18/9/21 20:42, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > On 18/9/21 20:27, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> from mailman.interfaces.action import Action >> def moderar(mlist, member): >> memb = mlist.members.get_member(member) >> if not memb: >> print('{} is not a list member.'.format(member)) >> return >> memb.moderation_action = Action.hold >> print('{} moderation_action set to hold.'.format(member)) > Just a one more silly question: Where do I can find the diferent values that memb.moderation_action can take? (I want to prepare the "unhold" script too) Thanks in advance. > That completely did it. The problem about finding the module was > completely gone when I made a soft link in the same directory where > mailman command is (in /usr/local/bin, for your info). > > Thank you very, very much. > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 reinstall fail, need some help

by Yvan ♞

Yes, always this folder file problem, if I create the folder, when trying install answer is "mailman allready installed" https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/avaweyiqom Still searching... But I'm really not an expert... Yvan Le 12/03/2022 à 21:32, Mark Sapiro a écrit : > On 3/12/22 08:38, Yvan ♞ wrote: >> Yes it's debian and I have root access but it's a more "user >> friendly" server release. >> I tryed this but it block >> https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/mailman3_ynh/blob/master/README.md >> >> https://yunohost.org/en/administrate/whatisyunohost >> Sincerely > > I don't read French very well, but your original logs at > https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/xiqoyajegi and > https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/hujesebita show installation failing > because it fails to create /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg. > > This is either an issue with the Debian package or the YunoHost > installer or an incompatibility between them. > > I would go first to YunoHost for help and then to Debian if necessary. >

4 years

[MM3-users] Re: Delete Django profiles not signed up to a list

by Andrew Hodgson

Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 1/1/21 4:41 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: >> I don't want to add captchas to the form right now but is there any way to clean out these users from the database perhaps periodically based on whether the accounts are subscribed to any list? >I have attached a script that will delete users from Django's user >database (the auth_user table) if there is no Mailman user with the >Django user's email address or if there is a Mailman user but it's not a >member, nonmember, owner or moderator of any lists. Thanks for this. >The setting DELETE_MAILMAN_USER controls whether it will also delete the >corresponding Mailman user that's not a member, nonmember, owner or >moderator of any lists. If set to True, it will. I did set this to true. The majority of users existed only in Django but around 20 existed in Mailman as well and looked like old addresses. Thanks again. Andrew.

5 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problem with digests not being sent daily

by Mark

On 2024-06-23 03:24, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 6/22/24 20:04, Mark wrote: >> >> Oh? I was indeed assuming that 0 meant unlimited. The threshold was >> set at 0. >> My thinking was that meant the file size was not a factor in >> determining when the digest was sent and that the sending would be >> triggered by the daily cron. >> So my understanding of what you are saying is: if the threshold is set >> very large, say 100,000 kB - then a digest will be be sent by the >> daily cron even if it is smaller than 100,000 kB. > Correct. If Send Digest Periodically is Yes, any accumulated digest > will be sent when `mailman digests --periodic` runs, regardless of > size. Mark - Thank you very much for setting me straight on this. I had been stumbling around in the dark for days. With the threshold set extremely high, the daily digests are on track and list members are happy again. Best, Mark

1 year, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 via Docker and NGINX

by brian＠emwd.com

Abhilash Raj wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2018, at 8:18 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 12/19/18 7:03 AM, brian(a)emwd.com wrote: > > > I have Mailman3 installed on CentOS 7 using maxking's docker image. I believe > > the installation went fine and running "curl > > http://172.19.199.3:8000/postorius/lists/" produces the correct output. I also will > > be using exim and nginx with this installation. > > ... > > > location / { > > > include uwsgi_params; > > > uwsgi_pass 172.19.199.3:8000; > Change this to use port 8080 instead of 8000. 8000 is for HTTP protocol and 8080 is for > uwsgi protocol. > > See the docs[1]. > > [1]: https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman#setting-up-your-web-server Thanks Abhilash. It is working now. FYI, I made the change directly in the nginx.conf file. I got rid of trying to use the conf.d/sitename.conf file. I now move on to getting exim to work. If I need help, I will start a separate thread. Brian

7 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web migrate fails: KeyError: 'django'

by David Newman

On 12/6/21 7:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/6/21 6:10 PM, David Newman wrote: >> Following the venv installation docs on a Debian 10 system, the >> command "mailman-web migrate" fails with a "KeyError: 'django'" error. >> >> Output pasted below [1]. > ... >> from mistune.scanner import escape_html, escape_url >> ImportError: cannot import name 'escape_html' from 'mistune.scanner' > > > You need to install > https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/379 or downgrade > mistune in your venv with > > pip install mistune==2.2.0rc1 Thanks for this. I applied the one-line fix by hand from 379 and the command now runs clean. I first tried the 'pip install' command but it returned this error: venv) mailman@somehost:~ $ pip install mistune==2.2.0rc1 ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement mistune==2.2.0rc1 (from versions: 0.1.0, 0.2.0, 0.3.0, 0.3.1, 0.4, 0.4.1, 0.5, 0.5.1, 0.6, 0.7, 0 .7.1, 0.7.2, 0.7.3, 0.7.4, 0.8, 0.8.1, 0.8.2, 0.8.3, 0.8.4, 2.0.0a1, 2.0.0a2, 2.0.0a3, 2.0.0a4, 2.0.0a5, 2.0.0a6, 2.0.0rc1, 2.0.0) ERROR: No matching distribution found for mistune==2.2.0rc1 Thanks again. dn

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Which crontab?

by Pierre Abbat

On Sunday, November 5, 2017 12:09:53 PM EST Mark Sapiro wrote: > When you run > > mailman info > > it will report among other things the location of 'config file:'. The > user who owns this file is the user that should run the > > mailman digests --send > > command. I.e., it should be in that user's crontab or in something like > '/etc/cron.d/mailman' with that user specified. > > Also see <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/436>. /etc/mailman.cfg should be owned by mailman? I checked my primary mailserver, my laptop, and my new Mailman box. ALL files in /etc (except links, which are lrwxrwxrwx and I didn't check what they point to) are owned by root.root or owned by root.<other> and not group writable, except one, the directory /etc/ mailman/, which is owned by root.list and is group writable (drwxrwsr-x). Are you saying that Mailman should be able to change its own config file? Pierre -- Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.

8 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Clean-up of non-members

by Odhiambo Washington

On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 7:24 AM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 12/25/24 15:02, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > > > (venv) mailman@eu:~$ mailman shell -l LISTSPEC > > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell > > Use commit() to commit changes. > > Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. > > Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. > > The variable 'm' is the LISTSPEC mailing list > > In [1]: len(list(m.nonmembers.members)) > > Out[1]: 873 > > > Then it appears that your version of mailman/commands/cli_members is > broken. Compare it to > > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/raw/master/src/mailman/commands/cli_me… That's right. This one does what is expected. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Spam sent to list owner causes bounce increment for list owner

by Allan Hansen

Hi Mark, Thank you for the explanation, and it all makes sense. I prefer your verp_probes solution, as I do prefer to have my list work concentrated in one place. I did have 5 bounces on the list - I guess a lot of spam is happening due to the holidays. I noticed a big uptick myself. Thanks again, Allan > On Dec 18, 2023, at 10:30, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > > On 12/18/23 9:59 AM, Allan Hansen wrote: >> Hi all, >> Someone sent a spam message to the list owner (me) of one of my lists. Then I got booted from the list. >> The scenario in more detail: >> The list server forwards the message to me, as I’m the list owner. This message is sent from <list>-bounces+hansen=rc.org(a)list.rc.org to hansen(a)rc.org. >> My service provider’s spam filter rejects the spam (correctly) in a message and informs the list server. >> The list server sends a message to <list>-bounces+hansen=rc.org(a)list.rc.org (the fake sender) saying that the message to hansen(a)rc.org (the recipient) could not be delivered because it was spam. >> The list server also blames hansen(a)rc.org (me) for the bounce and increments my bounce score, which, to me, is unfair. >> So I wonder: >> Is the Mailman host at list.rc.org at fault for not catching the spam before it reaches the list server? (One could argue that) > > Depends on what kind of spam filtering if any you have on incoming mail to list.rc.org. > >> Is my rc.org service provider at fault for sending the bounce message to the server instead of the to the original sender? > > Absolutely not. The envelope sender of the mail was set by Mailman to <list>-bounces+hansen=rc.org(a)list.rc.org in order to enable automated bounce processing. rc.org correctly sent the bounce to the envelope sender. > >> Is Mailman at fault for thinking that the bounce message was caused by a list message FROM me, instead of a bounced message TO the list owner? > > Arguably, yes, but not based on FROM. FROM has nothing to do with it. The message was sent TO you so if it bounces, it is a message to you that bounced, so you are the one bouncing this message. All Mailman knows is a message was sent to you and it bounced so it's your address that is bouncing. It doesn't matter whether this was a post to the list that bounced or a message to <list>-owner. A bounce is a bounce. > > Note that this list's bounce processing is very aggressive. If you got removed from the list after one bounce, the list must have Bounce score threshold = 1 and Bounce disable warnings = 0. You might consider adjusting these. > > There is an easy fix for this. Set `verp_probes: yes` in mailman.cfg. Then when your bounce score reaches threshold, instead of disabling/removing you, Mailman will send a probe message to you. It will only disable/remove you if the probe bounces which it presumably won't. > > Another avoidance would be to use an address for the owner which is not the address of a member. Then if the owner address bounces, nothing is done because the bouncing address isn't a list member. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to hansen(a)rc.org

2 years, 3 months

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