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[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3-Web lots of database queries

by Abhilash Raj

On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, at 2:14 AM, Stefan Tatschner wrote: > On Sun, 2018-11-18 at 14:38 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > No. This is not normal. This is apparently coming from Django qcluster. > > At least it is qcluster that uses the django_q_ormq table, but these > > repeated queries are not normal, at least I don't see them in the sites > > I administer. > > These calls are normal, since qcluster polls the database at a high > rate: > > https://django-q.readthedocs.io/en/latest/configure.html#poll > > Fortunately this setting can be reduced, but yeah, polling happens > though. So, if you are using Django's ORM to keep the task states in Django Q, this is bound to happen depending on how frequently do you run tasks. In Hyperkitty, we have some minutely tasks, which means the polling is going to be high. You can however, configure Django Q to store the tasks outside of database in a better high-speed in-memory database like Redis for example[1] for queuing the tasks. Other options like MongoDB, Amazon SQS is also available. [1]: https://django-q.readthedocs.io/en/latest/configure.html#redis > > Stefan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

6 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character

by Marvin Gülker

Hi, Am 11. Dezember 2019 um 09:55 Uhr -0800 schrieb Mark Sapiro: >Here's a revised script: [...] >Now we expect to see the hash of each message-id followed by the >message-id followed by the exception for the offending message. Success! This time it crashes with the expected exception. I've attached the shell transcript. As expected, it's a spam message. I've uploaded the offending file here for you to look at: <https://ftp.secretchronicles.org/misc/Q5PQZI4QEE4C42XNZMXESSKDCSZBUT4T> This way I don't risk getting caught by spam filters. I'm going to put that down quickly again, though, I don't want to distribute spam messages. Now that the problem is identified, I'm going to purge it from both database and file system. Thank you for your help. If you need any further information for debugging the problem, please tell me. >As to why you didn't receive owner notices about the held spam, perhaps >they were spam filtered or somehow otherwise lost. Maybe. I'll ensure I update quickly when the new Ubuntu LTS comes out to get that functionality. Installing Mailman not via the repos is not really an option for me; this list is for a hobby project and should run with as low maintenance effort as possible (i.e. automatic updates). Thanks a lot. Marvin -- Blog: https://mg.guelker.eu

5 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: List is down - RemovedInDjango30Warning

by Mark Dadgar

On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:14 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >> So I did the latest mailman upgrades within my venv (per the instructions got from Brian Carpenter when he installed it for me) to the latest version. I had a strange CPU pegging issue that turned out to be mailman struggling with a malformed message but in the process of debugging that I downgraded to the previous mailman release. >> >> The resulted in a broken web interface. >> >> Today, while debugging, I did a pip install --upgrade of all the components as listed in a previous thread. Now none of the mailman3 processes will start. >> >> Doing a bin/mailman-post-update results in the error message below, which are consistent with the issues I saw earlier when trying to access the web interface. >> >> Anyone got a solution to this? > > > From the tracebacks it looks like Django is broken. I would suggest > starting over with a new venv. I.e., just move /opt/mailman/mm/venv/ > aside and create a new venv > > virtualenv /opt/mailman/mm/venv/ > > and then activate it and pip install everything. Ok, that worked. THANK YOU. My lists are back up. The CPUs getting pounded by some failing process is back, though. I’ll post about that separately. - Mark ----- mark(a)pdc-racing.net | 408-348-2878

4 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: bounces with empty message-id

by Peter Münster

On Wed, Jan 31 2018, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> I have verp_delivery_interval = 10 ... > > Which says only every 10th message will be VERPed. You want > verp_delivery_interval = 1 to VERP every message. Hi, Why? The smtp relay host would get much more outgoing messages. With verp_delivery_interval = 10, only 10% of the messages would be personalized. Shouldn't this be enough to detect sooner or later, that a recipient address is no more valid? Or is it important, to detect such failure immediately? > The message does appear in the mail log, but until the issues below are > fixed, even if Mailman receives it, you won't see it. Ok. For now, I could do a grep of the syslog messages of Postfix, for example once per month, to check for DSNs. > They should be processed by Mailman and scored as bounces for the > recipient if recognized and forwarded if not (depending on settings), > but they currently are only stored. Ok. >> The question for me is: does the remote MTA needs a fix (i.e. the >> Message-ID is required by some RFC), or mailman (i.e. a DSN without >> Message-ID should be acceptable)? > > I have filed <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/448> for this. Thanks! That means, that I won't need to teach Postfix to add a Message-ID to the DSNs. :) Kind regards, -- Peter

7 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to store additional information about lists?

by Andreas Barth

* Stephen J. Turnbull (turnbull.stephen.fw(a)u.tsukuba.ac.jp) [210530 09:19]: > Mark Sapiro writes: > > On 5/29/21 7:31 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > > Membership adapter is a Mailman 2 feature that allowed use of an > > > external membership database (such as a corporate LDAP system). I > > > thought it was ported to Mailman 3 but maybe not. > > > Actually, it's not quite that simple. Mailman 2.1 defines a > > MemberAdaptor class, [...]. > > The Mailman 3 analog of this is the IMember interface defined in > > mailman/interfaces/member.py and implemented in mailman/model/member.py > > OK, but for Andi it is "simple" in the sense that he doesn't have an > existing MemberAdapter, so the plan is "Implement the IMember interface". Not sure if this is the right approach, or if it wouldn't be more appropriate to "just" replace the dependency on allauth in postorius, and do all the magic in the frontend only (because that's where people actually subscribe). Whoever subscribes by mail needs some admin action, or some cron job, or is unsupported - for my case the main interface is the web interface, not the email commands. That of course would imply that e.g. cleaning up mailing lists happens by a cron job with rest, but why not? Andi

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: multiple sites on a mailman3 server question

by David Newman

On 12/28/21 6:15 PM, William Oliver wrote: > So, I have successfully installed mailman3 and it's working great. > However, the way it works now, if someone goes to the domain website, > he or she will get the mailman page. I'd prefer that it work something > like: > My > www.example.com goes to a home page > lists.example.com goes to the mailman3 page > mail.example.com goes to a roundcube page > > > I'm using nginx I'd asked about this a few weeks ago for a MM3 host running Ngnix with a few virtual domains, one of which runs Roundcubemail as its default. Mark Sapiro suggested the following, and it seems to be working OK. You'll need these lines in the Nginx config file for each virtual host you define. # begin mailman3 stuff location /static/ { alias /opt/mailman/web/static/; } location /mailman3/ { proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8000; proxy_set_header Host $host; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $remote_addr; } location /archives/ { proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8000; proxy_set_header Host $host; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $remote_addr; } location /accounts/ { proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8000; proxy_set_header Host $host; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $remote_addr; } location /admin/ { proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8000; proxy_set_header Host $host; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $remote_addr; } location /mailman/ { proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8000; proxy_set_header Host $host; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $remote_addr; } location /user-profile/ { proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8000; proxy_set_header Host $host; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $remote_addr; } # end mailman3 stuff dn

3 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 doesn't send Mails to users (Debian12 with Plesk)

by Marcus Bautze

Hi, Am 07.06.2024 um 06:22 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > At > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > you say "Thank you, archiver is now starting. Now there's another > problem:". Does this mean messages are being archived in HyperKitty or > are they accumulating in (I think the Debian path is) > /var/lib/mailman/archives/hyperkitty/spool/? They are in /var/lib/mailman3/archives/hyperkitty/spool/, i doesn't find them in the HyperKitty-archives. > At > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > you say "The Keys are in mailman-hyperkitty.cfg and mailman-web.py > and this are the same Keys." To be clear, in mailman-web.py the key is > quoted and in mailman-hyperkitty.cfg it is not. E.g., in > mailman-hyperkitty.cfg > > api_key: Some_key here is the key unquoted: api_key: *** > > and in mailman-web.py > > MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY = 'Some_key' here's the Key quoted: MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY = '***' > > What are your versions for mailman-hyperkitty and HyperKitty? > HyperKitty >= 1.3.5 is incompatible with mailman-hyperkitty < 1.2.0 > and if I recall corectly, at least one Debian package was shipped with > this incompatibility > i found: python3-django-hyperkitty 1.3.7-1 python3-mailman-hyperkitty 1.2.1-1 mailman3-full 3.3.8-2~deb12u1 (no other hyperkitty-related packages) -- Marcus Bautze marcus(a)mbautze.de

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: Cron Error: <mailman@gw> /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin runjobs monthly

by Odhiambo Washington

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 6:13 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 2/28/23 21:33, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > Now that I have the error message - mail was generated at 0600hrs - what > > should I grep for in mailmanweb.log to ascertain when the cron job > started? > > > You could look in /etc/crontab to see what time the cron.monthly jobs > are run or you could look in syslog for 'cron\.monthly'. > In FreeBSD we have the /var/log/cron. Mar 1 00:00:00 gw /usr/sbin/cron[66206]: (mailman) CMD (/opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin runjobs monthly) So the job was started at 00:00, and the email was generated at 06:00: 2023-03-01 06:00:52 1pXCi4-000N2h-2D <= mailman(a)gw.kictanet.or.ke U=mailman P=local S=1466 T="Cron <mailman@gw> /opt/mailman/mm/bin/django-admin runjobs monthly" from <mailman(a)gw.kictanet.or.ke> for mailman That is 6hrs and the lock was still there. Given that my search engine is whoosh and my archive is heading to 3GB, I should probably try setting the value to 10hrs for a start? PS: Is there any documentation (for laymen) on how to set up an alternative search engine for MM3? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)

2 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to strip DKIM headers on a domain level or a list level

by Joel Lord

On 11/23/2020 10:48 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/23/20 7:22 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote: >> >> I also believe that it’s common for unsophisticated users to just start marking list emails as spam stop seeing them instead of figuring out how to unsubscribe. Which really sucks for everyone else. > > > Several servers I'm involved with managing are subscribed to Yahoo's > feedback loop (go to https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster and select > "Complaint Feedback Loop"). Reporting list mail as spam is one way to > get quickly removed from a list. However, this is a bit complicated > because the "report spam" button in Yahoo's web mail UI is right next to > the "delete" button, so some reports are accidents. > I've done the same thing, but Yahoo is pretty good at sanitizing their report to make it difficult to impossible to tell who actually needs to get ejected. I added "Sent to %(user_name)s at %(user_address)s" to the footer and while they'd generally get the user_address wiped out, the user_name would generally survive. And because Yahoo's UI is flawed as Mark pointed out, with the delete and spam buttons adjacent, I'd usually give people a couple chances before I'd airlock them. -- Joel Lord

4 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Problems with shunted Mails

by Stephan Krinetzki

Mark Sapiro wrote: > > One of the list's regular members has no associated address record. I > don't know how this can happen. That doesn't sound good. When something is unknown, that's never good. > You could find the member with mailman shell, e.g. > mailman shell -l list.example.com > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell > Use commit() to commit changes. > Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. > Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. > The variable 'm' is the list.example.com mailing list > >>> for mbr in m.regular_members.members: > ... if mbr.address is None: > ... mbr.subscriber > ... mbr.user > ... mbr.user.addresses > ... mbr.user.preferred_address > ... Yupp, this returns two entries (or better: User Objects?) > You might be able to fix this with something like > >>> for mbr in m.regular_members.members: > ... if mbr.address is None: > ... mbr.address = mbr.user.preferred_address or > member.user.addresses[0] > ... > >>> commit() This fix didn't worked. It returned a "Index out of bounds" exception. Instead, we have deleted the corresponding entry in the database. It should be possible to find it this way: select * from member where list_id = 'list.lists.example.com' AND address_id IS NULL; After deleting the row, the list works again.

3 years, 2 months

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