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[MM3-users] Re: Problem with digests not being sent daily

by Mark

On 2024-06-23 03:24, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 6/22/24 20:04, Mark wrote: >> >> Oh? I was indeed assuming that 0 meant unlimited. The threshold was >> set at 0. >> My thinking was that meant the file size was not a factor in >> determining when the digest was sent and that the sending would be >> triggered by the daily cron. >> So my understanding of what you are saying is: if the threshold is set >> very large, say 100,000 kB - then a digest will be be sent by the >> daily cron even if it is smaller than 100,000 kB. > Correct. If Send Digest Periodically is Yes, any accumulated digest > will be sent when `mailman digests --periodic` runs, regardless of > size. Mark - Thank you very much for setting me straight on this. I had been stumbling around in the dark for days. With the threshold set extremely high, the daily digests are on track and list members are happy again. Best, Mark

11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 via Docker and NGINX

by brian＠emwd.com

Abhilash Raj wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2018, at 8:18 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 12/19/18 7:03 AM, brian(a)emwd.com wrote: > > > I have Mailman3 installed on CentOS 7 using maxking's docker image. I believe > > the installation went fine and running "curl > > http://172.19.199.3:8000/postorius/lists/" produces the correct output. I also will > > be using exim and nginx with this installation. > > ... > > > location / { > > > include uwsgi_params; > > > uwsgi_pass 172.19.199.3:8000; > Change this to use port 8080 instead of 8000. 8000 is for HTTP protocol and 8080 is for > uwsgi protocol. > > See the docs[1]. > > [1]: https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman#setting-up-your-web-server Thanks Abhilash. It is working now. FYI, I made the change directly in the nginx.conf file. I got rid of trying to use the conf.d/sitename.conf file. I now move on to getting exim to work. If I need help, I will start a separate thread. Brian

6 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-web migrate fails: KeyError: 'django'

by David Newman

On 12/6/21 7:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/6/21 6:10 PM, David Newman wrote: >> Following the venv installation docs on a Debian 10 system, the >> command "mailman-web migrate" fails with a "KeyError: 'django'" error. >> >> Output pasted below [1]. > ... >> from mistune.scanner import escape_html, escape_url >> ImportError: cannot import name 'escape_html' from 'mistune.scanner' > > > You need to install > https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/379 or downgrade > mistune in your venv with > > pip install mistune==2.2.0rc1 Thanks for this. I applied the one-line fix by hand from 379 and the command now runs clean. I first tried the 'pip install' command but it returned this error: venv) mailman@somehost:~ $ pip install mistune==2.2.0rc1 ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement mistune==2.2.0rc1 (from versions: 0.1.0, 0.2.0, 0.3.0, 0.3.1, 0.4, 0.4.1, 0.5, 0.5.1, 0.6, 0.7, 0 .7.1, 0.7.2, 0.7.3, 0.7.4, 0.8, 0.8.1, 0.8.2, 0.8.3, 0.8.4, 2.0.0a1, 2.0.0a2, 2.0.0a3, 2.0.0a4, 2.0.0a5, 2.0.0a6, 2.0.0rc1, 2.0.0) ERROR: No matching distribution found for mistune==2.2.0rc1 Thanks again. dn

3 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Which crontab?

by Pierre Abbat

On Sunday, November 5, 2017 12:09:53 PM EST Mark Sapiro wrote: > When you run > > mailman info > > it will report among other things the location of 'config file:'. The > user who owns this file is the user that should run the > > mailman digests --send > > command. I.e., it should be in that user's crontab or in something like > '/etc/cron.d/mailman' with that user specified. > > Also see <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/436>. /etc/mailman.cfg should be owned by mailman? I checked my primary mailserver, my laptop, and my new Mailman box. ALL files in /etc (except links, which are lrwxrwxrwx and I didn't check what they point to) are owned by root.root or owned by root.<other> and not group writable, except one, the directory /etc/ mailman/, which is owned by root.list and is group writable (drwxrwsr-x). Are you saying that Mailman should be able to change its own config file? Pierre -- Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.

7 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Clean-up of non-members

by Odhiambo Washington

On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 7:24 AM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 12/25/24 15:02, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > > > (venv) mailman@eu:~$ mailman shell -l LISTSPEC > > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell > > Use commit() to commit changes. > > Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. > > Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. > > The variable 'm' is the LISTSPEC mailing list > > In [1]: len(list(m.nonmembers.members)) > > Out[1]: 873 > > > Then it appears that your version of mailman/commands/cli_members is > broken. Compare it to > > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/raw/master/src/mailman/commands/cli_me… That's right. This one does what is expected. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

4 months, 4 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: integrating mm3 with postfix / lmtp

by Fabian A. Santiago

On October 25, 2017 7:53:39 PM EDT, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >On 10/25/2017 01:08 PM, Fabian A. Santiago wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have mm3 up and running via docker (courtesy of >maxking/docker-mailman) but when i send an email to my test list, it >bounces back claiming user unknown. it states: >> >> <"lmtp:[172.19.199.2]:8024"@>: unknown user: >> "lmtp:[172.19.199.2]:8024" >> >> looking at the email source, it seems as though the message is trying >to be delivered to: >> >> Final-Recipient: rfc822; "lmtp:[172.19.199.2]:8024"@<my email >server's FQDN> >> Original-Recipient: rfc822;test123@<my list's email domain> >> >> all of various alias transport maps are defined in postfix's main.cf. >not sure where to go from here. does anyone have any clues? > > >For the docker image, the tables have to be defined in Postfix as >regexp: tables. Are they? Yes they are. -- Thanks, Fabian S. OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC

7 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Weblate spanish translation of templates (was: Re: spanish localization)

by Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7)

On 18/2/21 11:22, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > I want to contribute making it via Weblate, since it is already done > via gitlab repository (thanks to Mark Sapiro for approving the merge > requests), making a revision and editing them if needed, but I cannot > see how to make it in a consistent way, as I cannot determine how to > edit each template in the Weblate UI. I've tried to access via the > file name (accessing via msgid as for your example) of the > template... but I cannot access them by this way, or I'm missing > something. >> >> Can you, please, point me in the right direction on how to do it? > > Forget this, I've just found how to do it. Selecting by "key/context" > and the name of the file seems to do the trick. Done. Now the Weblate translation of templates is consistent with the gitlab src repository.

4 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty

by Onyeibo

On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 14:43:54 -0800 Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 1/30/23 13:17, Onyeibo wrote: > > > > The mails don't have that header. I suspect I may have to > > investigate SELinux. > > > I think it's unlikely a SELinux issue unless you mean it's an issue > writing the log, but if there are any entries at all in mailman.log, > that should be OK. > YES. There were entries in the log. They are good entries. There were no alarming entries. I was right. Selinux was preventing Python {name connect} to a mailman path. After resolving that, all Archives built/updated. Now I see entries in the log about receiving mails and archiving them. I also see the archived messages via Hyperkitty web interface. Super! However, I no longer receive my own message to the list. That was working before. The post arrives at the List and gets archived but I don't see it via my mail client -- looks like Mailman is now recieving but not posting back to the subscriber. Strange

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Spam sent to list owner causes bounce increment for list owner

by Allan Hansen

Hi Mark, Thank you for the explanation, and it all makes sense. I prefer your verp_probes solution, as I do prefer to have my list work concentrated in one place. I did have 5 bounces on the list - I guess a lot of spam is happening due to the holidays. I noticed a big uptick myself. Thanks again, Allan > On Dec 18, 2023, at 10:30, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > > On 12/18/23 9:59 AM, Allan Hansen wrote: >> Hi all, >> Someone sent a spam message to the list owner (me) of one of my lists. Then I got booted from the list. >> The scenario in more detail: >> The list server forwards the message to me, as I’m the list owner. This message is sent from <list>-bounces+hansen=rc.org(a)list.rc.org to hansen(a)rc.org. >> My service provider’s spam filter rejects the spam (correctly) in a message and informs the list server. >> The list server sends a message to <list>-bounces+hansen=rc.org(a)list.rc.org (the fake sender) saying that the message to hansen(a)rc.org (the recipient) could not be delivered because it was spam. >> The list server also blames hansen(a)rc.org (me) for the bounce and increments my bounce score, which, to me, is unfair. >> So I wonder: >> Is the Mailman host at list.rc.org at fault for not catching the spam before it reaches the list server? (One could argue that) > > Depends on what kind of spam filtering if any you have on incoming mail to list.rc.org. > >> Is my rc.org service provider at fault for sending the bounce message to the server instead of the to the original sender? > > Absolutely not. The envelope sender of the mail was set by Mailman to <list>-bounces+hansen=rc.org(a)list.rc.org in order to enable automated bounce processing. rc.org correctly sent the bounce to the envelope sender. > >> Is Mailman at fault for thinking that the bounce message was caused by a list message FROM me, instead of a bounced message TO the list owner? > > Arguably, yes, but not based on FROM. FROM has nothing to do with it. The message was sent TO you so if it bounces, it is a message to you that bounced, so you are the one bouncing this message. All Mailman knows is a message was sent to you and it bounced so it's your address that is bouncing. It doesn't matter whether this was a post to the list that bounced or a message to <list>-owner. A bounce is a bounce. > > Note that this list's bounce processing is very aggressive. If you got removed from the list after one bounce, the list must have Bounce score threshold = 1 and Bounce disable warnings = 0. You might consider adjusting these. > > There is an easy fix for this. Set `verp_probes: yes` in mailman.cfg. Then when your bounce score reaches threshold, instead of disabling/removing you, Mailman will send a probe message to you. It will only disable/remove you if the probe bounces which it presumably won't. > > Another avoidance would be to use an address for the owner which is not the address of a member. Then if the owner address bounces, nothing is done because the bouncing address isn't a list member. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to hansen(a)rc.org

1 year, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Archiver "prototype" and disabling archiving at all

by Torge Riedel

Am 24.03.19 um 16:49 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 3/24/19 5:40 AM, Torge Riedel wrote: >> in the settings of a mailing list I can choose two archivers: >> "Hyperkitty" and "prototype". What is this archive "prototype" and how >> can I disable/remove/deinstall it? And how can I disable archiving at >> all, so no archiver can be chosen in the settings. > > The prototype archiver stores messages individually in > var/archives/prototype/LIST_NAME/. > > You can disable the prototype archiver by putting > > [archiver.prototype] > enable: no > > in your mailman.cfg. To disable all archiving, just remove all the > [archiver.*] sections from your mailman.cfg or set them to 'enable: no' > > Hi Mark, thanks. This disabled the archivers, but there is still the "Archives" link on top of the page. Is it possible to remove it? Cause there is nothing to see there. I tried commenting "'hyperkitty'," in INSTALLED_APPS, but then I got a 500.

6 years, 1 month

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