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[MM3-users] Re: Handling of SPAM mails in mailman3 - Check for X-Spam Header

by Torge Riedel

Am 18.01.20 um 19:38 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 1/18/20 6:58 AM, Torge Riedel wrote: >> Am 16.01.20 um 21:43 schrieb Mark Sapiro: >>> This won't work for posts from members because the header checks are >>> done between member moderation checks and non-member moderation checks, >>> but if you create a Header Filter for header 'x-spam' and pattern 'yes' >>> with action hold, a message from a non-member which has an X-Spam: Yes >>> header should be held for that reason. >>> >>> >> Hi Mark, >> >> thank you for your answer. Just to understand that right: In case a >> posting with an "X-Spam: Yes" header comes from a member, it will not be >> held? It will be directly forwarded to the list? > No. I apologize for being unclear. > > A post from a member will first be handled according to that member's > moderation action which may be the list's default action for posts from > members or a specific action for that member. > > If that moderation action is reject, discard or hold, the post will be > rejected, discarded or held as a moderated member post regardless of any > header filters. > > If the action is accept, the post will be accepted without any further > checks including the header checks. > > If the action is defer (default processing) the message will be held for > matching the X-Spam: Yes header. > > What I meant was if the member's (or default) action was hold, the post > would be held, but the reason would be moderated member, not header match. > > The bottom line here is the moderation action of accept should only be > used in cases of a highly trusted member (such as a list owner) because > it bypasses other checks, but the address is still subject to spoofing. > In the normal case where a moderation hold is not desired, use the defer > (default processing) action. > Hi Mark, thanks for clarification. I will add a header filter. One final question: When adding a new header filter I can select between different actions. And there is one named "Default Anti-Spam action" (roughly translated from German). I cannot find anything else about this somewhere else in the settings (Postorius). So what it is the "Default Anti-Spam action"? Best regards Torge

6 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: How to delete non-users

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/16/22 16:40, Allan Hansen wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Thank you for looking into it. > > We are very strict about memberships, which we are because of spam, bots and malicious contributors and because we don't want anyone to think that our lists are used for spam: > > When a user applies, the server sends a message to the moderator. > The moderator communicates with the potential member and accepts or does not accept the application. So Subscription policy is Moderate or Confirm, then moderate. > At this point, if the user has not been accepted, but tried to send a message to the list, a non-member membership is created. Yes. This is expected. > When he/she logs in to list his/her account, the list to which he/she holds non-memberships will be listed and the user will think that he/she has been properly subscribed (why else are the lists listed). I'm guessing you are talking about the https://www.example.com/mailman3/accounts/subscriptions/ page. On that page, all membership roles (owner, moderator, member, nonmember) are listed. Note that if the user goes instead to info page for the list, appropriate pronoun will be presented with a subscribe form. > Noone notices the column that shows the role as 'nonmember.' So he/she thinks that the subscription request has been accepted, but nothing is working. That's why the 'non-member' record is an issue. I also don't see why non-members are automatically added, filling up the database with junk (at least from our point of view, with all respect). That's the way Mailman 3 is designed. Changing it would be a major undertaking. Consider the case where default nonmember action is hold rather than discard. Then when handling a nonmember post, the moderator can set the nonmember's moderation to default processing to essentially accept future posts from that nonmember if the nonmember has a legitimate reason to post, or to discard if the nonmember is a spammer. If you think it would help, you might consider colorizing the roles on that page so perhaps nonmember could be in red. This should be a simple patch to Postorius. > But our lists don't accept messages from non-members. Such messages are quietly discarded, as most are spam, as mentioned above. > So now the user is neither getting emails from the lists nor is unable to send messages to the list. > The next step for the user is to complain to me. ☹ Why didn't you (or the moderator) accept the held subscription at the beginning? > I have looked for a template that could be used to warn someone when he/she is added as a non-member, but did not find one. It's also not clear that I'd want one, as most of these non-subscriptions are by spammers and I prefer not to reply to spammers. __ > > I tried your suggestion below, Mark. > Here's my transcript: > > ********** > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell > Use commit() to commit changes. > Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. > Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. > >>>> lm = getUtility(IListManager) >>>> for l in lm: > ... for nm in l.nonmembers.members: > ... nm.unsubscribe() > ... >>>> > ********** > I did this twice, once with commit() and once typing ctrl/d (ctrl/D) just gave me a beep. > Calling commit() did not return to the ... as in your example, but showed the >>> prompt, so I tried ctrl/D (beep) and then ctrl/d (exit). My example did not show a `...` in response to commit(). Commit() was followed by three backticks which is markup for the end if the literal text. The >>> following commit() is expected. Either calling commit() explicitly or exiting with ctrl-D should commit the changes. > I then went to the Postorius page for one of the lists and found that all the non-members were still present. I don't know why this would be. I tested that script and it worked for me. My original point is the presence of a nonmember role should not prevent the user from subscribing. If there is an issue with subscribing it is probably because of the outstanding subscription request waiting moderator approval. I understand that you would like the nonmember role to disappear, but that isn't going to happen in the distribution, and I can't undertake the extensive effort required to figure out how you can do it for your site. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Intermittent: pymysql.err.InternalError: Packet sequence number wrong - got 102 expected 77

by Mark Sapiro

For anyone who's interested, here's a reformatted version of the traceback. ``` > Full log follows: > [2021-05-23 07:31:45 +0200] [8244] [ERROR] Error handling request /3.1/lists?advertised=true&count=10&page=1 > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1284, in _execute_context > cursor, statement, parameters, context > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/default.py", line 590, in do_execute > cursor.execute(statement, parameters) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/cursors.py", line 170, in execute > result = self._query(query) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/cursors.py", line 328, in _query > conn.query(q) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 517, in query > self._affected_rows = self._read_query_result(unbuffered=unbuffered) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 732, in _read_query_result > result.read() > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 1082, in read > self._read_result_packet(first_packet) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 1151, in _read_result_packet > self._get_descriptions() > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 1222, in _get_descriptions > field = self.connection._read_packet(FieldDescriptorPacket) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 671, in _read_packet > % (packet_number, self._next_seq_id)) > pymysql.err.InternalError: Packet sequence number wrong - got 102 expected 77 > > The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/database/transaction.py", line 50, in wrapper > rtn = function(*args, **kws) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/rest/wsgiapp.py", line 193, in __call__ > return super().__call__(environ, start_response) > File "falcon/api.py", line 274, in falcon.api.API.__call__ > File "falcon/api.py", line 269, in falcon.api.API.__call__ > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/rest/lists.py", line 322, in on_get > resource = self._make_collection(request) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/rest/helpers.py", line 172, in _make_collection > request, self._get_collection(request)) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/rest/helpers.py", line 167, in _paginate > return list_start, total_size, collection[list_start:list_end] > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/utilities/queries.py", line 42, in __getitem__ > return self._query[index] > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/orm/query.py", line 3149, in __getitem__ > return list(res) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/orm/query.py", line 3481, in __iter__ > return self._execute_and_instances(context) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/orm/query.py", line 3506, in _execute_and_instances > result = conn.execute(querycontext.statement, self._params) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1020, in execute > return meth(self, multiparams, params) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/sql/elements.py", line 298, in _execute_on_connection > return connection._execute_clauseelement(self, multiparams, params) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1139, in _execute_clauseelement > distilled_params, > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1324, in _execute_context > e, statement, parameters, cursor, context > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1518, in _handle_dbapi_exception > sqlalchemy_exception, with_traceback=exc_info[2], from_=e > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/util/compat.py", line 178, in raise_ > raise exception > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1284, in _execute_context > cursor, statement, parameters, context > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/default.py", line 590, in do_execute > cursor.execute(statement, parameters) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/cursors.py", line 170, in execute > result = self._query(query) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/cursors.py", line 328, in _query > conn.query(q) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 517, in query > self._affected_rows = self._read_query_result(unbuffered=unbuffered) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 732, in _read_query_result > result.read() > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 1082, in read > self._read_result_packet(first_packet) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 1151, in _read_result_packet > self._get_descriptions() > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 1222, in _get_descriptions > field = self.connection._read_packet(FieldDescriptorPacket) > File "/opt/mailman/core/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 671, in _read_packet > % (packet_number, self._next_seq_id)) > sqlalchemy.exc.InternalError: (pymysql.err.InternalError) Packet sequence number wrong - got 102 expected 77 [SQL: SELECT mailinglist.list_id AS mailinglist_list_id, mailinglist.preferred_language AS mailinglist_preferred_language, mailingli$ FROM mailinglist WHERE mailinglist.advertised = true ORDER BY mailinglist.list_id LIMIT %(param_1)s] [parameters: {'param_1': 10}] > (Background on this error at: http://sqlalche.me/e/2j85) ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Footer variables

by Washington Odhiambo

On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 10:38 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 3/2/26 11:03, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > > Are there `Exception in "hyperkitty" archiver` messages in mailman.log, > > or if you have set a path: in the [logging.archiver] section of > > mailman.cfg, in that file? > > > Actually, there won't be those messages. The code in question is > < > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/handlers/decor… > > > > The fact the ${hyperkitty_url} is replaced with an empty string > indicates that line 79 does not raise an exception but rather sets > archive_url to the empty string. This is the only way that the > replacement dictionary would contain the key `hyperkitty_url` and if it > didn't contain that key, the resultant footer would contain literally > `${hyperkitty_url}` > > You could try in `mailman shell` > ``` > $ mailman shell -l list.example.com > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell > Use commit() to commit changes. > Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. > Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. > The variable 'm' is the list.example.com mailing list > >>> from mailman.email.message import Message > >>> msg = Message() > >>> msg['Message-ID'] = '<xxx(a)example.com>' > >>> for archiver in IListArchiverSet(m).archivers: > ... if archiver.system_archiver.name == 'hyperkitty': > ... print(f'URL: {archiver.system_archiver.permalink(m, msg)}') > ... > ``` > This should print something like > > URL: > > https://example.com/archives/list/list@example.com/message/FMB3KJSE74FUTZBV… > > Does it? > Here is the output: ``` (venv) mailman@eu:~$ mailman shell -l kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. The variable 'm' is the kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke mailing list >>> from mailman.email.message import Message >>> msg = Message() >>> msg['Message-ID'] = '<xxx(a)example.com>' >>> for archiver in IListArchiverSet(m).archivers: ... if archiver.system_archiver.name == 'hyperkitty': ... print(f'URL: {archiver.system_archiver.permalink(m, msg)}') ... URL: https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/archives/list/kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke/me… >>> ``` -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table

by Mohsen Masoudfar

Thanks you so much Mark, I appreciate your help! Yes, I did: [mta] incoming: mailman.mta.postfix.LMTP outgoing: mailman.mta.deliver.deliver lmtp_host: newlistserv.aaas.org lmtp_port: 8024 smtp_host: newlistserv.aaas.org smtp_port: 25 configuration: python:mailman.config.postfix # postconf recipient_delimiter recipient_delimiter = + # postconf owner_request_special owner_request_special = no in main.cf: local_recipient_maps = hash:/opt/mailman/var/data/postfix_lmtp transport_maps = hash:/opt/mailman/var/data/postfix_lmtp virtual_alias_maps = hash:/opt/mailman/var/data/postfix_vmap Bur for some reason the postfix_lmtp.db is older than postfix_lmtp, which means it does not get updated automated, I guess. I restarted the whole stack and added a new list. In postfix logs I see: Apr 17 18:20:28 mailmandev01 postfix/smtpd[31399]: error: open database /opt/mailman/var/data/postfix_domains.db: No such file or directory Apr 17 18:20:28 mailmandev01 postfix/smtpd[31399]: error: open database /opt/mailman/var/data/postfix_vmap.db: No such file or directory I touched the /opt/mailman/var/data/postfix_vmap, but it did not help neither. In addition, I found out this : On my old mailman2 I have a setting in postfix main.cf: alias_maps = dbm:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases the file /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases says in its first line: # This file is generated by Mailman, and is kept in sync with the # binary hash file aliases.db. YOU SHOULD NOT MANUALLY EDIT THIS FILE This makes a lot of sense to me. The point is I am missing any similar settings on postfix on mailman3. Maybe local_recipient_maps do that, but as I mentioned the DB file is older than the text file. The result is that the list (which is actually a postfix user) is unknown to postfix completely. Now what is missing here? It appears that postorius can talk to postfix to send welcome messages out, but Postfix is not aware about the User that Postorius has created and exists in SQLite DB. So rejects any email addressed to that one. Thanks Mohsen -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 10:09 PM To: mailman-users(a)mailman3.org Subject: [MM3-users] Re: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table [EXTERNAL EMAIL] On 4/15/20 3:47 PM, Mohsen Masoudfar wrote: > I am new to mailman3, my understanding was, maybe wrong, that when I create a list, mailman3 adds that to the local list of users. I think , I am missing something . . . > Or probably this is related to a postfix setting? Have you configured Mailman core and Postfix per <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailman.r…>? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan _______________________________________________ Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.mai…

6 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: "held for moderation" - alias domain details sought

by Greg Newby

Thanks for this. After adding to "acceptable aliases," I also needed to add an entry in /etc/aliases, and then the moderation didn't happen. That's great! If I use an alias domain, will that replace the need for entries in /etc/aliases? I'm hesitant to explore since this is my production mail server. ~ Greg On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 1:51 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 11/1/24 11:14, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > On 2024-11-01 11:04:07 -0700 (-0700), Greg Newby via Mailman-users wrote: > >> Hi friends. I've viewed this old thread: > >> > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… > >> and documentation here: > >> > https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… > >> (and the Postfix docs it links to). Those documents don't seem to guide > my > >> situation, or maybe I just need a more specific example. > > > The alias domain discussed at > > https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… > has nothing to do with what you are doing. > > > >> The problem is that when messages are delivered to the alias domain, > they > >> are held for moderation. I.e., mail to the alias domain like > >> testlist(a)domain.tld is held for moderation, but mail from the same > >> subscribed, non-moderated user to testlist(a)lists.domain.tld is posted > >> immediately without moderation. > > [...] > > > > I manage a similar setup (though with Exim instead of Postfix), and > > when migrating from Mailman v2 to v3 kept the same basic settings > > which seemed to work: notably, under Message Acceptance I set the > > alias addresses for the list in the Acceptable aliases field. If > > memory serves, not doing that caused messages addressed to those > > aliases to be unconditionally held for moderation. > > > This is the correct solution. Just add `testlist(a)domain.tld` to the > acceptable aliases setting of the `testlist(a)lists.domain.tld` list. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to gbnewby(a)petascale.org >

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Upgrade

by Darren Smith

By the way, in reading the URL in the error, I attempted to set the LANG and LC_ALL to en_US.utf8 (as was found in the error) but it still does not work. On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Darren Smith <silas.crutherton(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Nice...spoke too soon. > > Mailman info works, but when attempting to start mailman I'm now getting > this: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/opt/mailman3/conda/bin/mailman", line 11, in <module> > sys.exit(main()) > File "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/click/core.py", > line 722, in __call__ > return self.main(*args, **kwargs) > File "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/click/core.py", > line 676, in main > _verify_python3_env() > File "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/click/_unicodefun.py", > line 118, in _verify_python3_env > 'for mitigation steps.' + extra) > RuntimeError: Click will abort further execution because Python 3 was > configured to use ASCII as encoding for the environment. Consult > http://click.pocoo.org/python3/for mitigation steps. > > This system lists a couple of UTF-8 supporting locales that > you can pick from. The following suitable locales where > discovered: aa_DJ.utf8, aa_ER.utf8, aa_ET.utf8, (followed by a bijillion > others) > > -Darren > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Darren Smith <silas.crutherton(a)gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Boy howdy did that work... >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >> >>> On 04/16/2018 10:12 AM, Darren Smith wrote: >>> >>> > "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/ >>> engine/strategies.py", >>> > line 160, in create >>> > engineclass.__name__)) >>> > TypeError: Invalid argument(s) 'pool_pre_ping' sent to create_engine(), >>> > using configuration PGDialect_psycopg2/QueuePool/Engine. Please >>> check that >>> > the keyword arguments are appropriate for this combination of >>> components." >>> > >>> > Anyone able to point me where to go to look for a solution for this? >>> >>> >>> You need to update SQLAlchemy to >= 1.2 for this, but there is another >>> issue that requires at least 1.2.3 (current is 1.2.6) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, >>> San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailman-users mailing list >>> mailman-users(a)mailman3.org >>> https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >>> >> >> >

8 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: using SSH/TLS with external MTA

by Roland Giesler

On 2024/07/28 17:06, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 7/28/24 06:26, Roland Giesler via Mailman-users wrote: >> On 2024/07/28 00:39, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> A mail was sent to root on the localhost with the following content: >> >> Return-Path: <root(a)giesler.za.net> >> X-Original-To: root@localhost >> Delivered-To: root@localhost >> Received: from mailman.fast.za.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) >> by mailman.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2174A120A5B >> for <root@localhost>; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 13:11:03 +0000 (UTC) >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> Subject: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Internal Server Error: >> /accounts/login/ >> From: root(a)giesler.za.net >> To: root@localhost >> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 13:11:03 -0000 >> Message-ID: <172217226313.2150.10895652368679013629(a)mailman.fast.za.net> >> >> Internal Server Error: /accounts/login/ >> >> SMTPRecipientsRefused at /accounts/login/ >> {'roland(a)giesler.za.net': (454, b'4.7.1 <roland(a)giesler.za.net>: >> Relay acce= >> ss denied')} > > This is mail from django-allauth, not from Mailman. Your settings in > mailman.cfg do not affect how this mail is sent. See > https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/topics/email/#smtp-backend for > the Django settings for this. These settings from the Django docs look like the ones in mailman.cfg. Do I have to set them somewhere else too? SMTP backend¶ <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/topics/email/#smtp-backend> /class/|backends.smtp.||EmailBackend|(/host=None/,/port=None/,/username=None/,/password=None/,/use_tls=None/,/fail_silently=False/,/use_ssl=None/,/timeout=None/,/ssl_keyfile=None/,/ssl_certfile=None/,/**kwargs/)¶ <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/topics/email/#django.core.mail.backen…> This is the default backend. Email will be sent through a SMTP server. The value for each argument is retrieved from the matching setting if the argument is|None|: * |host|:|EMAIL_HOST| <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/ref/settings/#std-setting-EMAIL_HOST> * |port|:|EMAIL_PORT| <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/ref/settings/#std-setting-EMAIL_PORT> * |username|:|EMAIL_HOST_USER| <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/ref/settings/#std-setting-EMAIL_HOST_…> * |password|:|EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD| <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/ref/settings/#std-setting-EMAIL_HOST_…> * |use_tls|:|EMAIL_USE_TLS| <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/ref/settings/#std-setting-EMAIL_USE_T…> * |use_ssl|:|EMAIL_USE_SSL| <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/ref/settings/#std-setting-EMAIL_USE_S…> * |timeout|:|EMAIL_TIMEOUT| <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/ref/settings/#std-setting-EMAIL_TIMEO…> * |ssl_keyfile|:|EMAIL_SSL_KEYFILE| <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/ref/settings/#std-setting-EMAIL_SSL_K…> * |ssl_certfile|:|EMAIL_SSL_CERTFILE| <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/ref/settings/#std-setting-EMAIL_SSL_C…> The SMTP backend is the default configuration inherited by Django. If you want to specify it explicitly, put the following in your settings: EMAIL_BACKEND = "django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend" If unspecified, the default|timeout|will be the one provided by|socket.getdefaulttimeout()| <https://docs.python.org/3/library/socket.html#socket.getdefaulttimeout>, which defaults to|None|(no timeout).

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: CSS Hyperkitty ERROR

by Johan Alsina

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Johan Alsina via Mailman-users writes: > > Hi, i installed mailman3 with virtualenv, all is working fine, the > > admin site works fine, the mailman(postorious) site works fine, but > > when im in hyperkitty the site shows without the css style.. in my > > web browser dev tool it shows like they loaded ok.. > > I think you need to figure out why the dev tool can see the CSS files > but other environments can't. It sounds exactly like all the other > problems I couldn't diagnose. :-/ > > Any ideas? :/ > > My static files are loading from > > /static/CACHE/css/output.a0f71925131b.css and > > /static/hyperkitty/libs/fonts/font-awesome/css/font-awesome.min.css > > I've run into the "no styles" issue on a number of new hosts where the > problem was that somewhere on the path to the CSS files was a > directory, typically owned by root, without "x" permissions for > "other" users. That difference across trees is weakly consistent with > a "somewhere in between" permissions problem. > Steve Hi Steve, thanks for answer, i tried all about permissions and paths and i thins all its ok.. here you can see my paths/permissions.. General: https://freeimage.host/i/3ok1LDN Django project: https://freeimage.host/i/3ok1ZxI Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 3/17/25 6:46 PM, Johan Alsina via Mailman-users wrote: > > Hi, i installed mailman3 with virtualenv, all is working fine, the admin site works fine, the mailman(postorious) site works fine, but when im in hyperkitty the site shows without the css style.. in my web browser dev tool it shows like they loaded ok.. > > Have you run mailman-web collectstatic and mailman-web compress? See > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#collect-static-f... > If you have, try running them again as mailman-web collectstatic --clear and mailman-web compress. > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan Hi Mark, thanks for the answer. Yes, i tried all variations about collectstatic, clear_cache, etc.. comands with no difference. I dont get any error and the files are collected ok.. Like i said before, i think the problem comes with the css files in /static/CACHE.. because the ones that are in /static/hyperkitty are loading ok.. css files in /static/CACHE not loading: https://freeimage.host/i/3okk6CJ img files in /static/hyperkitty loading: https://freeimage.host/i/3okkPEv I tried to move /static/CACHE inside of /static/hyperkitty but when i run collectstatic the files goes again to the default path.. Thanks in advance..

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Can't add emails to accept_these_nonmembers

by Ibiam Chihurumnaya

Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 2/27/26 07:17, Ibiam Chihurumnaya via Mailman-users wrote: > > Currently running Mailman 3.3.10 and I followed the instructions from https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html# to install. > > OK. > > I get something else when I do it differently - how I've been doing it so far -. > > mailman shell > > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell > > Use commit() to commit changes. > > Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. > > Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. > > from mailmanclient import Client > > from mailmanclient import Client > > client = Client('http://localhost:8001/3.1', '**', '**') > > sg = client.domains[0] > > sy = sg.get_lists()[-1] > > sy > > <List 'systems-logs(a)lists.sugarlabs.org'> > > sy.settings > > {'acceptable_aliases': [], ... > > OK. You are using Mailman Client which is a bunch of Python bindings for > Mailman core's REST API and which is intended for use by HyperKitty, > Postorius and Django-Mailman3 to communicate with Mailman core via its > REST API. Yes, the major reason I did this was because I wrote some helper scripts to do some things like create and delete a list, which the only domain in the mailing list selected. I'm assuming any other way to communicate with the rest API would automatically select the only domain that exists. It also seems to give more granular control over lists and members. Can mailman directly provide most of this functionality? > If you are using mailman shell you already have direct access to all > of Mailman core. Using Mailman Client is just adding overhead to things > you could do directly. > If you really want to use Mailman Client, rather than invoking mailman shell and all it brings that you don't use, you could just invoke your > venv's python, e.g., > $ /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python > or if your venv is active, just > (venv) $ python > and then import Client and continue as above. Makes sense, thank you! > > Yes, but like I've mentioned in another thread, I don't have access to the web UI because > > I can't get a confirmation link. > > You can always confirm your address manually > UPDATE account_emailaddress SET verified = 't' where email = 'your_address'; That worked, thank you! > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 2 weeks

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