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[MM3-users] Re: list footer web customization procedure

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/21 6:05 PM, Philippe B wrote: > Update: After disabling the footer on a few lists (as described here a week ago), we started seeing "Cache content lost" in most (but not all) messages from those lists. > > In some cases, that phrase is an attachment to the "real" body of the message. In others, it's the opposite (which is more problematic for responding). That seems to depend on whether the poster sent in plain text. The difference between inline and attachment has to do with how footers are added. They are only added inline if the message after content filtering is a simple text/plain message. > One puzzling aspect is that it doesn't happen consistently. One hourly automated message will have it; but exactly the same message one hour later won't have it; but will have it again 3 hours later for example. > > Is that a known problem, or would it be possible to troubleshoot? Thanks. The issue may be a bug or a race condition. What is going on is the 'empty' footer you created in Postorius is retrieved from Postorius by a URL. In order to reduce the number of http transfers to retrieve such templates, they are cached in the local file system. Now, when we want a template that is accessed via a non-mailman: URI, we call the cache managers get() method at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/model/cache.py… to get it. This should return either None if there's no cached file or the contents of the file, but if there is an entry but no corresponding file, it returns 'Cache content lost'. This could occur if some asynchronous process expunged the entry between getting the entry and getting the file. A process that could do that is the task runner that evicts expired cache entries. Look in your mailman.log. There will be `ACCEPT: <message_id>` entries for each accepted message and there will be hourly `Task runner evicted expired cache entries` entries. Do the ACCEPTs for the affected messages occur at the same time as the evictions? One way to avoid this is to not use Postorius to set the template but rather, create an empty `templates/lists/<list_id>/en/list:member:regular:footer.txt` in mailman's var/ directory for each such list and delete the Postorius templates. Of course, this is just a work around and not a solution to the issue. A proper fix is probably to implement a lock on the get(), evict(), evict_expired() and clear() methods so they can't execute concurrently. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: spanish localization

by Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7)

On 12/2/21 21:24, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 2/12/21 12:04 AM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: >> On 11/2/21 20:15, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> For the web UI you need to run the django management `compilemessages` >>> command. >> I tried to run this using the same command as I did for the >> "collectstatic" (that solved all my previous problems for the upgrade) >> and "migrate" runs but it shows me an error: >> >> su -m mailman3 -c "python3 manage.py compilemessages" >> CommandError: This script should be run from the Django Git checkout or >> your project or app tree, or with the settings module specified. > > The documentation is at, e.g., > https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.1/ref/django-admin/. Didn't find it. Thanks > If the manage.py in the directory in which you ran this is the correct > one for your Mailman Django project, Yes, it is. > I don't know why it didn't work. :( > > Is your Mailman installed in a virtualenv? No. It's system's wide. Thanks for your answer. > If so, was the virtualenv > activated? >

5 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Rafael Mora

Nice! Up and running! How do I start using mailman? what are the steps?? REALLY thank you all for your patience and help! Really appreciated ! El vie., 21 jul. 2017 a las 18:48, Mark Sapiro (<mark(a)msapiro.net>) escribió: > On 07/21/2017 04:43 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > > YEEEES! At last!!! I can see the web UI. > > > > Now I´m getting this message in the web UI: > > > > Something went wrong > > Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core. > > > > > > > > Where do I configure the REST API ????? > > > So I guess you figured out that ALLOWED_HOSTS is a Django setting in > settings.py or wherever your Django settings are. > > Now you have to start Mailman Core. In your Python 3 'env' where you > installed Mailman Core, run 'bin/mailman start'. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list > mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > -- Atentamente / Best Regards Ing. Rafael Mora

9 years

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Rafael Mora

Ok, so how do I config Postfix to send emails via my domain? i.e. using the email account mailing(a)labbrands.com ?? Thanks El mar., 25 jul. 2017 a las 15:33, Mark Sapiro (<mark(a)msapiro.net>) escribió: > On 07/25/2017 01:21 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > > Regarding this: > > > > # To be added to Django's settings.py > > > > EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend' > > EMAIL_HOST = 'localhost' > > EMAIL_PORT = 25 > > EMAIL_HOST_USER = <username> > > EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = <password> > > > > > > > > What should I use for username and password? > > Should I keep the localhost on the host param? > > > If you want Django (i.e. Postorius, Hyperkitty and Django > admin/auth/etc.) to deliver via localhost, you don't need > EMAIL_HOST_USER and EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD. Those are only for > authentication to some other host. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list > mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > -- Atentamente / Best Regards Ing. Rafael Mora

9 years

[MM3-users] Re: very few moderation capabilities for moderators

by Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7)

On 19/9/21 3:03, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 9/18/21 2:52 PM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: >> On 18/9/21 22:59, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> On 9/18/21 11:56 AM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Just a one more silly question: >>>> >>>> Where do I can find the diferent values that memb.moderation_action >>>> can take? (I want to prepare the "unhold" script too) >>> >>> >>> https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/interfaces/act… >>> >> >> Thanks: It's perfect > > > One more thing. It isn't obvious, but generally you want Action.defer > rather than Action.accept. Action.defer will pass the moderation > check, but still continue to check other rules such as administrivia, > implicit-destination, max-recipients, max-size, no-subject and header > filters whereas Action.accept will accept the message unconditionally > and bypass those subsequent checks. Thanks for the tip. I definitely use defer instead of accept now. At least for the use of moderators in a "unhold" stance. --

4 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: Read-Mostly list?

by Stephen Daniel

Thanks. On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 2:30 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 6/10/23 11:02, Stephen Daniel wrote: > > I wish to have a list that anyone can read. A few designated people can > > post without moderation, and all other users are moderated. > > > > Is this possible? I don't see a way in the list settings to create users > > who are not moderated when the default action is to moderate. > > > Once the user is added as a list member, the list owner or site admin > can go to that members settings for the list (click on the user in the > members list) and set the user's Moderation to Default Processing. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to swd(a)pobox.com >

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Confirmation emails aren't sent to users.

by Ibiam Chihurumnaya

Mark Sapiro wrote: > You are Hijacking threads again. Please compose a new message with a new > subject, not a reply, when you post a new topic. My apologies, won't happen again. > On 2/12/26 14:01, Ibiam Chihurumnaya via Mailman-users wrote: > > I'd also like to know how I can disable message approval for an email, I don't want to approve some messages. > > These emails are already members of the list and yet they need approval because "Message has implicit destination". > > You can set their moderation action to Accept. This will bypass all the > following checks for that member. > Message contains administrivia > Message has implicit destination > Message has more than {} recipients > The message is larger than the {} KB maximum size > Post to a moderated newsgroup gateway > Message has no subject > Message has a digest subject > Message quotes digest boilerplate > Header "{}" matched a bounce_matching_header line Done this, thank you! > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Open List

by Samir Faci

Awesome, Thank you. On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:33 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 5/13/20 12:22 PM, Samir Faci wrote: > > So, > > > > I found a setting to allow me to create an Open List. I assume this is > > still doable in MM3 though I can't find the equivalent option. > > > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-March/065479.html > > > Settings -> Message Acceptance -> Default action to take when a > non-member posts to the list. > > > > 2nd question is how do I create a new List Style. I'd like Open- > Archived > > and Open-NonArchived to be options when creating a new list. > > > See > < > https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/styles/doc… > >. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > -- Thank you Samir Faci https://keybase.io/csgeek

6 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Welcome message template errors

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/23/24 20:36, Mark wrote: > >> Did you delete and recreate the template after changing >> POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL? If not, the template table still has the >> old URI. > > Yes. Every test is: delete template and users (via Postorius), make any > config changes, restart everything, then new template and new user (via > Postorius). OK >> What does `ps -fwwu mailman|grep runner` show? > > # ps -fwwu mailman|grep runner > mailman 375726 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:01 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=archive:0:1 > mailman 375727 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:01 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=bounces:0:1 > mailman 375728 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:01 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=command:0:1 > mailman 375729 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:01 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=in:0:1 > mailman 375730 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:01 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=lmtp:0:1 > mailman 375731 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:01 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=nntp:0:1 > mailman 375732 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:01 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=out:0:1 > mailman 375733 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:01 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=pipeline:0:1 > mailman 375734 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:01 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=rest:0:1 > mailman 375735 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:00 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=retry:0:1 > mailman 375736 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:00 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=task:0:1 > mailman 375737 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:01 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=virgin:0:1 > mailman 375738 375716 0 02:00 ? 00:00:01 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=digest:0:1 > mailman 375790 375734 0 02:00 ? 00:00:00 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=rest:0:1 > mailman 375791 375734 0 02:00 ? 00:00:00 > /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/runner -C > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg --runner=rest:0:1 So all the runners are running as user mailman. That's good. What exactly is the issue now. Is it retrievals timing out or an empty welcome message? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 11:27, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Yes, everything is from the virtual environment and there were no errors reported anywhere during the process. > > <venv> $ ls -l /opt/mailman/var/etc > total 4 > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 501 Oct 19 11:07 mailman.cfg > > The sqlite line bothered me from the beginning. Shouldn't it be mysql? I'm still concerned that `mailman info` reports the config at /opt/mailman/var/etc/mailman.cfg instead of /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg. The database is sqlite because thats what's defined in /opt/mailman/var/etc/mailman.cfg. Did you create /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg? what does diff /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg /opt/mailman/var/etc/mailman.cfg give? You are not seeing the list in mysql because Mailman core is using the sqlite db at /opt/mailman/var/data/mailman.db > <venv> $ ls -l /opt/mailman/var/data > total 300 > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 274432 Nov 1 14:40 mailman.db > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 343 Nov 1 14:39 postfix_domains > -rw-r----- 1 mailman mailman 12288 Nov 1 14:39 postfix_domains.db > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 1003 Nov 1 14:39 postfix_lmtp > -rw-r----- 1 mailman mailman 12288 Nov 1 14:39 postfix_lmtp.db The postfix files are good, but the mailman.db is spurious because the mailman.cfg that the mailman command is using most likely doesn't define a [database] section and gets the default from https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/config/schema.… The [database] you have defined in mailman.cfg as [database] class: mailman.database.mysql.MySQLDatabase url: mysql+pymysql://mailman:pppppppp@localhost/mailman?charset=utf8mb4&use_unicode=1 is presumably defined in /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg which isn't being used. What is the content of /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman? Do you have the environment variable MAILMAN_CONFIG_FILE set? > I did this import command: > > <venv> $ mailman import21 lllllllllllll(a)ddddddddd.net /tmp/config.pck Which works but imports to the list defined in the sqlite database at /opt/mailman/var/data/mailman.db. > This was the hyperkitty command: > > <venv> $ mailman-web hyperkitty_import -l lllllllllllll(a)ddddddddd.net /tmp/lllllllllllll.mbox > > <venv> $ mailman-web diffsettings|grep DATABASES > DATABASES = {'default': {'ENGINE': 'django.db.backends.mysql', 'NAME': 'mailmanweb', 'USER': 'mailma > n', 'PASSWORD': 'ppppppppp', 'HOST': 'localhost', 'PORT': '3306', 'OPTIONS': {'charset': 'utf8mb4'}, > 'ATOMIC_REQUESTS': False, 'AUTOCOMMIT': True, 'CONN_MAX_AGE': 0, 'CONN_HEALTH_CHECKS': False, 'TIME_ > ZONE': None, 'TEST': {'CHARSET': None, 'COLLATION': None, 'MIGRATE': True, 'MIRROR': None, 'NAME': N > one}}} This looks correct. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

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