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[MM3-users] Re: What's the difference between (purpose of) reject and ignore

by denis.bitouze＠univ-littoral.fr

Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 6/25/22 07:54, denis.bitouze(a)univ-littoral.fr wrote: > > > Mark Sapiro wrote: > > The difference between Reject and Discard is Reject notifies the > > sender of the rejection whereas Discard just discards the message > > without notification. > > IMHO, even in English, “Reject” and “Discard” are not > > self-explanatory. > > They seem so to me, but in any case, if you look at Postorius -> > Settings -> Message Acceptance -> Default action to take when a > (non-)member posts to the list, they are described there in much more > detail. OK: not easy to figure out. A tooltip on the corresponding buttons would be helpful. > > BTW, no clue about an automatic banishment of emails from discarded > > messages? > > In the pop-up dialog from clicking the subject of a held post you can > set the sender's moderation status when discarding the post. Sorry but I can only see: - “--- Set member moderation ---” (non selectable, I guess) - “Hold for moderation” - “Reject (with notification)” - “Discard (no notification)” - “Accept immediately (bypass other rules)” - “Default processing” and cannot see how I can at the same time “Discard (no notification)” and “Banish the email of the post's sender”.

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: [Mailman-Users] MM3 startup issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/6/20 11:16 PM, hansen(a)rc.org wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> What's the setting for base_url in mailman-hyperkitty.cfg? > > It's > base_url: https://<OLDHOSTNAME>/archives > > I suppose it should be changed to > base_url: https://<NEWHOSTNAME>/archives That's part of it, but see below. > But: > What if we decided to have more than one domain, as the UI indicates is kosher? Again, see below. >> Are there any errors in var/logs/mailman.log? > > Yep. Lots. They all are of this nature: > > Exception in "hyperkitty" archiver > Traceback: > ... > File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/connection.py", line 430, in _match_hostname > match_hostname(cert, asserted_hostname) > File "/usr/lib/python3.7/ssl.py", line 327, in match_hostname > % (hostname, dnsnames[0])) > ssl.SSLCertVerificationError: ("hostname 'OLDHOSTNAME' doesn't match 'NEWHOSTNAME'",) OK. So the real issue is you are trying to access HyperKitty via an https URL and the certificate presented by the web server doesn't allow the domain in the URL. The domain in the URL doesn't really matter as long as it resolves to the HyperKitty host, but if it's an https URL the host's certificate must include that domain. It looks like in your case, the certificate is for 'NEWHOSTNAME', so setting base_url: https://<NEWHOSTNAME>/archives should be enough >> qcluster is not what you need to restart. You need to restart whatever >> is supporting the wsgi interface to Django. This may be uwsgi or >> gunicorn or ??. Whatever it is, that's what needs to be restarted. > > Beats me, Mark. Brian, do you know? Brian has answered: systemctl restart gunicorn >> If you do ps ax|grep runner=, what do you see? If you don't see at >> least three processes with --runner=rest:0:1, stop Mailman and start >> Mailman. > > Yep. I did not get the whole string before. With your options I see three > of these rest:0:1 processes. So I guess the REST stuff is running anyway. OK >> If so, what's >> in /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/mailmansuite.log or whatever it's >> called - defined as filename in the file handler in the LOGGING >> definition in settings(_local).py. > >> hansen@rccrmail:/opt/mailman/mm/logs$ tail -f mailmansuite.log >> return Site.objects.get_current(request) >> File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/django/contrib/sites/models.py", >> line 60, in get_current >> return self._get_site_by_request(request) >> File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/django/contrib/sites/models.py", >> line 45, in _get_site_by_request >> SITE_CACHE[domain] = self.get(domain__iexact=domain) >> File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/django/db/models/manager.py", >> line 82, in manager_method >> return getattr(self.get_queryset(), name)(*args, **kwargs) >> File "/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/django/db/models/query.py", line >> 408, in get >> self.model._meta.object_name >> django.contrib.sites.models.Site.DoesNotExist: Site matching query does not exist. > >> This is because of the domain change. In settings(_local).py you have a >> setting for SITE_ID. Possibly, setting that in settings_local.py to a >> value one greater that the current setting will do. > > Trying setting it to 1 (it was 0 before). OK. You can just shotgun trying numbers until one works, or >> To be certain of the >> correct value, you need to look at the django_site table in mailman's >> database. That table has 3 columns, id, domain and name. The id for the >> row of your domain is what needs to be set as SITE_ID. > > You lost me here. No idea how to access the Mailman database. > Brian, do you know? It depends on the database engine. In the database section in your mailman.cfg there is a class: definition which will mention sqlite, mysql or postgresql. The tools for interacting with these are sqlite3, mysql and psql respectively. >> Stop Mailman and then start it. > > No idea here, either. I looked online and found this: > > $ from mailman.commands.cli_control import Stop > But it complained: > from: too many arguments That's a Python statement, not a shell command. You would do systemctl stop mailman systemctl start mailman alternatively, you could do /path/to/bin/mailman stop /path/to/bin/mailman start but that appears to not be the issue. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Bulk changes to delivery mode and moderation action

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/7/22 11:06 AM, David Newman wrote: > > 1. In Users/Members, moderation action for the newly resubscribed users > shows as "None". Is there a method, either in the UI or the command > line, to change this to "Default processing" for all users? I assume you don't want to set `Default action to take when a member posts to the list` to Default Processing because you want new member posts to be held. This is a good practice. To set all members to default processing in mailman shell ``` $ mailman shell -l list.example.com Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. The variable 'm' is the list.example.com mailing list >>> from mailman.interfaces.action import Action >>> for mbr in m.members.members: ... mbr.moderation_action = Action.defer ... >>> commit() >>> ``` > 2. Although Delivery Mode shows as "Regular" for all users in > Users/Members list, clicking on a member's name shows all options such > as delivery status, delivery mode, etc., as undefined. They show as undefined, but if you look at your own settings by selecting `Mailman settings` from the dropdown under your username at the upper right in Postorius, you will see you have Global Mailman preferences, Address-based preferences and List-based preferences. If a list based preference is unset for a list, it falls back to the address based preference for the address and if that's unset, to the global preference. When you as an admin look at a user, you only see the user's list based preferences. > Similar question: How to set subscriber options for all members in one go? Per the above, you only need to set the user's preferences if they don't have address based preferences and the preference differs from the global (default) preferences. However, if you want to set the member's list preferences, you could add to the beginning of the above: ``` >>> from mailman.interfaces.member import DeliveryMode, DeliveryStatus >>> english = getUtility(ILanguageManager).get('en') ``` and to the `for` loop in the above: ``` ... mbr.preferences.acknowledge_posts = False ... mbr.preferences.delivery_mode = DeliveryMode.regular ... mbr.preferences.delivery_status = DeliveryStatus.enabled ... mbr.preferences.hide_address = False ... mbr.preferences.preferred_language = english ... mbr.preferences.receive_list_copy = False ... mbr.preferences.receive_own_postings = True ``` Or whatever you think these settings should be. > 3. As a subscriber to this list, I received email notification that I'd > been unsubscribed. Where is the control for enabling/disabling > subscription notifications? Settings -> Automatic Responses > Settings/Member Policy/Un-subscription Policy is set to Confirm, but I > don't think that's relevant here since I unsubscribed users as the > Django superuser. Correct. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'get_requests_count'

by Shashikanth Komandoor

ok Thank you Mark for your valuable time. I will try this method and let you know the status. Thanks once again. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:44 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 10/28/20 12:08 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote: > > I tried this way but in this method I don't find any files to edit for my > > customizations like > > 1. Removal of social accounts, > > 2. Addition of SMS integration and so. > > > > If I can do my required customizations through pip installation I am fine > > with that. > > If you follow the instructions for installing in a virtualenv, in say > /opt/mailman/venv, all the component files will be in > /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.x/site-packages > > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > -- Thanks & Regards, Shashi Kanth.K 9052671936

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: I'm seeing a lot of database locked errors

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/18/23 8:36 AM, bryan.kartzman(a)yu.edu wrote: > > I'd like to say it worked flawlessly (and it did allow the archives to be displayed, which wasn't happening before, but I'm getting the following two errors (or maybe KeyError 1365 and 1366 are the same error?) every minute: > > 11:26:23 [Q] ERROR Failed [compute_thread_positions] - 1365 : Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django_q/cluster.py", line 421, in worker > res = f(*task["args"], **task["kwargs"]) > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/tasks.py", line 127, in _compute_thread_positions > compute_thread_order_and_depth(thread) > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/lib/analysis.py", line 55, in compute_thread_order_and_depth > walk_successors(thread.starting_email.id) > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/lib/analysis.py", line 37, in walk_successors > obj = graph.nodes[msgid]["obj"] > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/networkx/classes/reportviews.py", line 187, in __getitem__ > return self._nodes[n] > KeyError: 1365 > > 11:26:23 [Q] ERROR Failed [compute_thread_positions] - 1366 : Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django_q/cluster.py", line 421, in worker > res = f(*task["args"], **task["kwargs"]) > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/tasks.py", line 127, in _compute_thread_positions > compute_thread_order_and_depth(thread) > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/lib/analysis.py", line 55, in compute_thread_order_and_depth > walk_successors(thread.starting_email.id) > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/lib/analysis.py", line 37, in walk_successors > obj = graph.nodes[msgid]["obj"] > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/networkx/classes/reportviews.py", line 187, in __getitem__ > return self._nodes[n] > KeyError: 1366 > > Is this an error only in the archives or might I also have a problem with other timestamp fields in the database? If its just the archives, is there a simple way to fix it? If no simple way to fix the archives, is there an easy way to erase all list archives? If no easy way to erase all list archives, would deleting all the lists and recreating them remove the archives? The above errors have nothing to do with timestamps. There are entries in the hyperkitty_thread table with starting_email_id = 1365 and 1366, i.e., `SELECT * FROM hyperkitty_thread WHERE starting_email_id in (1365, 1366);`, but there are no entries in the hyperkitty_email table with id = 1365 or 1366. You could look at the thread_id for those entries in the hyperkitty_thread table and see if there are entries in the hyperkitty_email table with message_id_hash = those thread_id values. if those entries exist, you can fix this by altering the starting_email_id of those entries to the respective id values for those messages from the hyperkitty_email table. If those messages don't exist in the hyperkitty_email table, you could just delete the offending entries from the hyperkitty_thread table. As far as deleting archives is concerned, a Django superuser should have a `Delete Archive` button on the top level Hyperkitty view for the list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: hyperkitty failed to create a thread

by Danil Smirnov

Thank you very much for the quick fix, Mark and Abhilash! Abhilash, could you include the fix into the "latest" version of mailman-web container please? Btw I wasn't able to find a changelog of Mailman docker images anywhere and 'Releases' page in Github is quite outdated too... Is there any other place I should check? Danil вт, 12 февр. 2019 г., 4:06 Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net>: > On 2/11/19 9:47 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > > > What could be a reason of HyperKitty failing to create a thread from > > chained emails? > > > > For example, see "RECENTLY ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS" on page > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/ > > > > "Openvpn and Network mapping" discussion displayed as five threads > instead > > of only one... > > > > Any ideas how to improve HyperKitty ability to detect threaded messages? > > > Thanks for the report. > > The MR at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/merge_requests/125> > will fix this. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >

6 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Question about whitlisting a domain for specific mailing list

by Zaheer Abbas

Thanks, Mark & Odhiambo for providing options for the solution. I will try the 'postorius header filters' hacky way as it's more suitable to my requirement, however, if it didn't work as expected, then filtration through exim filter is also an acceptable option. Thanks again for the quick response. On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 8:58 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 3/30/23 11:07, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > So the MTA option that doesn't involve any regex is better than no? > > Partly it's a matter of taste and possibly a matter of necessity. I.e. a > list admin can do this with header filters and may not have access to > the MTA config. > > Also, it's not clear to me that doing this in Postfix is less > complicated than understanding a regex. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to zaheer.psg(a)gmail.com >

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: MM3 in virtualenv - FreeBSD-11

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/11/19 6:51 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Now that I look at it, I think you should clarify that if one is not > interested in using PostgreSQL (which is what `pip install psycopg2-binary` > is for), > then there should be some different binary they need to install, no? And > which one is it? I have added a note to the comment at https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experience which says: """Also, please note the first paragraph of the introduction. This is documentation of my decisions and experiences. It is not a how-to and does not replace the documentation at http://docs.list.org/""" In particular, documentation of the requirements for different databases is at <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/database.html>. > Under your "*Recommended Configuration*", I have followed each step, > getting the files and editing them to suite my needs, until I got to where > you refer to: > /opt/mailman/mm/settings.py (copy of the mailman-suite settings.py file but > with DEBUG = False) > I tried to get this file using `git clone > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman_suite.git` and realized that > authentication is required in order to get it. Because you should be getting <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite.git> (hyphen, not underscore) which works without authentication. Or you could just go to <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite/blob/master/mailman-suite_project/…> and copy it from there. > What is the reason you did not include a copy like for the rest?? Because it's available on GitLab. > I have created the executables - all of them. > I have created the templates and did `find . -type f -exec sed -i.BAK 's/ > mailman3.org/mydomain.name/g' {} \;` > Maybe you should state explicitly that once one gets these templates, they > need to change the url to match theirs. You said it, but it doesn't come out > forcefully :0 I added "Of course, if you use these you need to edit the URLs for your site." > In your "MTA" section, I suppose you need to be a little more generic as > well and accommodate Exim users. > First I suggest you clearly state that one needs to edit /opt/mailman/mm/ > mailman.cf to ensure that the values under [mta] match what is required. > Maybe there is a different file to edit for MTA settings??? Again, I'm documenting MY experience, not trying to replace the official documentation. I refer to <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.html#postfix> because I use Postfix. That same page also has Exim documentation. > So far ..... > > Next, I will be looking into "Running Things".... which is where I believe > things will get thicker .... Perhaps when you're done you will write u your experiences with FreeBSD and Exim. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: installing a new instance of mm3

by Christian Stalberg

mailman.log is showing this: ERROR 2021-10-18 22:19:12,385 616 django.security.DisallowedHost Invalid HTTP_HOST header: 'subdomain.domain.tld'. You may need to add 'subdomain.domain.tld' to ALLOWED_HOSTS. ERROR 2021-10-18 23:01:15,318 616 django.security.DisallowedHost Invalid HTTP_HOST header: '192.168.0.1'. You may need to add '192.168.0.1' to ALLOWED_HOSTS. Where do those entries go? -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 11:44 AM To: mailman-users(a)mailman3.org Subject: [MM3-users] Re: installing a new instance of mm3 On 10/22/21 6:37 AM, Christian Stalberg via Mailman-users wrote: > Is this document that Brian Carpenter wrote still valid? > > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Howto_Install_Mailman3_On_Debian10 As Steve said, it should be. > Brian installed my instance. Now its broken. My lists are down. I'm > getting nowhere with diagnostics and troubleshooting (which was easier > with mailman 2). What's broken? Postorius, Hyperkitty, mail delivery, all of them? Do you find any clues in the logs at /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/? Particularly mailman.log for core and mailmansuite.log for Postorius and Hyperkitty. We will try to help if we have information to help identify the problem. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan _______________________________________________ Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/

3 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman3 throws 500 error (unicode encode) when loading held messages in Postorius

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/27/20 5:44 PM, Simon Handfield via Mailman-users wrote: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/wsgiref/handlers.py", line 137, in run > self.result = application(self.environ, self.start_response) > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/database/transaction.py", line 50, in wrapper > rtn = function(*args, **kws) > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/rest/wsgiapp.py", line 214, in __call__ > return super().__call__(environ, start_response) > File "falcon/api.py", line 215, in falcon.api.API.__call__ (falcon/api.c:2872) > File "falcon/api.py", line 189, in falcon.api.API.__call__ (falcon/api.c:2419) > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/rest/post_moderation.py", line 167, in on_get > resource = self._make_collection(request) > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/rest/helpers.py", line 159, in _make_collection > for resource in collection] > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/rest/helpers.py", line 159, in <listcomp> > for resource in collection] > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/rest/post_moderation.py", line 157, in _resource_as_dict > resource = self._make_resource(request.id) > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/rest/post_moderation.py", line 78, in _make_resource > resource['msg'] = msg.as_string() > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/email/message.py", line 158, in as_string > g.flatten(self, unixfrom=unixfrom) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/email/generator.py", line 116, in flatten > self._write(msg) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/email/generator.py", line 181, in _write > self._dispatch(msg) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/email/generator.py", line 214, in _dispatch > meth(msg) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/email/generator.py", line 272, in _handle_multipart > g.flatten(part, unixfrom=False, linesep=self._NL) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/email/generator.py", line 116, in flatten > self._write(msg) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/email/generator.py", line 181, in _write > self._dispatch(msg) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/email/generator.py", line 214, in _dispatch > meth(msg) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/email/generator.py", line 243, in _handle_text > msg.set_payload(payload, charset) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/email/message.py", line 315, in set_payload > payload = payload.encode(charset.output_charset) > UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 8-9: ordinal not in range(128) > > I'm sorry if this is a query that's answered already but I have not been able to find matching thread that seems to relate to my error. Sorry for not answering earlier and for not being able to devote more time to this now as I'm going away within the hour, but this looks as if the message is somehow defective. Basically, the message can't be flattened by its as_string() method because of unicode issues. This can occur because of non-ascii characters is the message headers or in body parts explicitly or implicitly declared as ascii. We have had workarounds for this for some time, but I don't think they are in 3.1.1, See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/email/message.…> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

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