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[MM3-users] Re: Subscription issue with ghost confirmations

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/29/20 5:23 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > I have a list owner who had his subscription policy set to confirm. > Apparently that was too hard for his list members to handle so he > changed it to moderate only. If someone sent a subscription request that > needed to be confirm, did not respond to it, and then tried subscribing > again after the member policy changed to moderate, their 2nd > subscription attempt still shows up in the confirmation queue. Is that > normal behavior. My understanding is it is. Please let me know if I am > wrong here. Are you certain that the request waiting confirmation is the second one and not the first? > The real mystery here is when someone tried subscribing again > (listname-subscribe@listdomain) hours after the subscription policy was > changed to moderate and they still showed up in the confirm queue. How > is that possible? I tested the list with two of my addresses and both > showed up in the moderation queue as expected. As far as I can tell from > the mailman logs, this was the person's first attempt at subscribing. I suspect it was not the first attempt and that the subscription waiting confirmation was requested when the policy was confirm. The real question is if a user has a subscription waiting confirmation and the policy is changed to moderate, is a second request rejected because of the request waiting confirmation. If so, I think this is a bug which should be fixed. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: no bounce-processing with verp_probes: yes

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/6/23 06:26, Stefan Bauer wrote: > Dear Users, > > during one of our upgrades to 3.3.x we set verp_probes: yes according to > upgrade notes[1]. > > However it looks like this disabled bounce handling completely. > > Howto verify (MM 3.3.9): > > Set > verp_probes: yes > verp_delivery_interval: 1 > restart mailman3 > create test-list > add an undeliverable recipient to the list that is known to bounce. > send 6 mails to list. Bounce score is only incremented on the first bounce for that day. > see, that all the bounce-messages are received by mailman according to > postfix log[2] So they are delivered. At this point, having set `verp_probes: yes` has no effect on the processing. It only comes in to play when the threshhold is reached. > check bounce.log - no entry. > get bounce_score from API[3] - shows bounce_score 0. This says bounces are not being processed. Is the bounces runner running? If it is there should be entries like Member undeliverable-recipient(a)realdomain.tld on list v-test.lists.lists.tld, bounce score = 1. and Member undeliverable-recipient(a)realdomain.tld already scored a bounce on list v-test.lists.lists.tld today. in bounce.log. and bounce score should be 1. This is independent of `verp_probes: yes`. If the bounce runner is not running, stop and start Mailman core. You must stop and then start, not restart. Also check mailman.log for a reason why bounces runner is not running. If bounces runner is running, check mailman.log for possible errors relating to bounce processing. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: changing the main template for subscriptions and more

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/1/22 12:40, Paul Paulchen wrote: > Hi Mark, > > thanks for your advice. Unfortunately we need some more clues. > First of all, we are using mailman docker by maxking - https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman I do not know what the file layout is in the Docker container, so I can't verify paths. > Our version: > Mailman Core Version - GNU Mailman 3.3.5 (Tom Sawyer) > Mailman Core API Version 3.1 > Mailman Core Python Version 3.8.10 (default, May 6 2021, 06:30:44) [GCC 9.3.0] > > We put an example footer.txt into the templates folder as you mentioned: > mailman3_core => var/templates/sites/de/list:member:regular:footer.txt > Mailman user can read them As I said, I can't give you an absolute path. If you can run `mailman info` in the container, that will show the location of mailman.cfg which may help Installing the template as you have should work if it's the correct path. > Created a new list, restarted the docker-container, but it always showed the default footer.txt and not our example footer.txt from the templates folder. Any guesses or clues? Where is this default footer.txt hiding anyway? Changing languages in postorius works fine and it alters between english, german etc... just won't use our custom footer.txt The default templates are in the mailman/templates/ directory where the mailman/ directory is where all the Mailman core software is. Hopefully someone familiar with Docker and the Mailman Docker container can provide better information. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years

[MM3-users] Re: Apache+mod_wsgi issue

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/25/22 01:14, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 9:40 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >> >> How about https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/user_profile/ ? >> > > I have uncommented the line "WSGIScriptAlias /user-profile > /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py", > I don't see any definition for it in urls.py as well. Perhaps that's the > issue? It is defined in django_mailman3/urls.py which is referenced by re_path(r'', include('django_mailman3.urls')), > When I uncomment /user-profile, I end up with an ugly URL: > https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/user-profile/user-profile/ > > So instead of aliasing the /user-profile, I have decided to add another > definition to urls.py: > re_path(r'^user-profile/', include('allauth.urls')), > Which I think gives me a cleaner URL: > https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/user-profile/login/?next=/user-profile/ It shouldn't include `allauth.urls`. That URL is appropriate if you aren't logged in, but what do you get when you are? Go to https://lists.mailman3.org/user-profile/ and log in if necessary and you'll see what it should look like. > I also had to alias /accounts, which then brings me to: > https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/accounts/mailman3/lists/ - which I believe > is fine because one gets the > option to either login or signup. > > And I think that "/account" and "/user-profile" are synonymous. They are in your instance because of re_path(r'^user-profile/', include('allauth.urls')), but they should not be. >> It's a mod_wsgi thing. I haven't used mod_wsgi for Mailman for some time >> (I now use gunicorn on all the sites I manage), but when I did I think I >> had > > >> WSGIScriptAlias /mm3 /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py >> >> and all the URLs were like https://example.com/mm3/mailman3/..., >> https://example.com/mm3/archives/..., etc. >> > > I already had gunicorn working too, but I just need to also figure out this > mod_wsgi. Why? Intellectual curiosity or do you have an actual need. The bottom line is with mod_wsgi, whatever you have in your WSGIScriptAlias is going to be prepended to the URL path. If you don't want anything prepended, you need ``` WSGIScriptAlias / /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py ``` but then in order for user-profile to work, you need to replace ``` re_path(r'', include('django_mailman3.urls')), ``` in urls.py with the urlpatterns from django_mailman3/urls.py ``` re_path(r'^user-profile/delete$', delete_account, name='mm_user_account_delete'), re_path(r'^user-profile/$', user_profile, name='mm_user_profile'), ``` and also add ``` from django_mailman3.views.profile import delete_account, user_profile ``` to the imports in urls.py -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: unwanted chunked delivery

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/7/22 11:04 AM, mm3-omf(a)sh.werbittewas.de wrote: > debian-dist mailman3 3.3.3-1. > > every post to this list will be chunked into one delivery with 60 > recipients and one delivery with 21 recipients. > > we've searched a bit and found a config-option "max_recipients" for > bulk-transfers, but we haven't set it and (as we understand the > explaination for this option) then there should be no limit in one > transfer to the MTA. If you haven't set max_recipients, you get the default which is 500. To set it unlimited you set it to 0 > nevertheless, we've tried to set it to a high value, but even this > doesn't change anything in behaviour. Right, because chunking isn't arbitrary. Chunking is done by recipient domain. The addresses are placed in `buckets` by TLD. All `.com` goes in one bucket; `.net` and `.org` in another; `.edu`, `.us` and `.ca` in a third, and all the rest in a fourth. Then the buckets are chunked with the maximum chunk determined by max_recipients. In your case, 60 recipients are in one bucket and 21 in another. The buckets are defined at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/mta/bulk.py#L29 and the work is done at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/mta/bulk.py#L56 My question is why is this important to you? See the FAQ article at https://wiki.list.org/x/4030582 (which is for Mailman 2.1 so it talks about SMTP_MAX_RCPTS which is what max_recipients used to be called) which suggests a much smaller number. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Installing mailman 3

by Rafael Mora

I think you have to open a new issue to modify the website for the mailman-suite git clone, it should be: git clone https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite.git El vie., 21 jul. 2017 a las 14:07, Rafael Mora (<rafael.mora.guti(a)gmail.com>) escribió: > Installing mailman-suite for web ui. I did this: > > (env) [mailman@localhost ~]$ git clone > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite/ > Cloning into 'mailman-suite'... > error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 404 > fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly > > > but it returned an error, what should I do?? > > Thanks > > > > > > > > El vie., 21 jul. 2017 a las 13:02, Mark Sapiro (<mark(a)msapiro.net>) > escribió: > >> On 07/21/2017 10:29 AM, Rafael Mora wrote: >> > Can we modify the docs? >> > >> > El vie., 21 jul. 2017 a las 12:25, Mark Sapiro (<mark(a)msapiro.net>) >> > escribió: >> >> >> >> However, that said, the doc is wrong. The lines should be added to >> >> main.cf, not master.cf. See >> >> <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite-doc/issues/14>. >> >> >> That's what the above issue and associated MR are for. >> >> -- >> Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, >> San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailman-users mailing list >> mailman-users(a)mailman3.org >> https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >> > -- > > Atentamente / Best Regards > > Ing. Rafael Mora > -- Atentamente / Best Regards Ing. Rafael Mora

8 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Template path

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/17/20 9:33 AM, Seth Seeger wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I’m running Mailman from Docker containers, without much customization. (Postorius 1.3.3, Core 3.3.1, API 3.1, Python 3.8.5). I’ve created a list:user:notice:welcome template, and when I try to confirm a subscription, I get an error. > > I followed previous emails on this list which told me to set POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL in /opt/mailman/web/settings_local.py, but that doesn’t seem to make any difference. (I set it to a different value and the error message didn’t change. I also tried setting it in /opt/mailman/core/settings_local.py to no effect. After each change, I restarted mailman-web and mailman-core containers.) How did you create the template? In Postorius or by manually creating a file somewhere? If by creating a file, POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL is not relevant, but ensure that the file is findable and readable by Mailman. > From within mailman-web and mailman-core containers, I can reach “mailman-web:8000”. > > In the webpage, I see: Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core. The REST APT is normally exposed on port 8001, not 8000 (See `port` in `mailman conf -s webservice`. What is your setting for MAILMAN_REST_API_URL? does the port match? > In /opt/mailman/core/var/logs/mailman.log, I get: > > [17/Sep/2020:16:23:29 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/xxx.example.com HTTP/1.1" 200 416 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.1" It appears you are connecting to the REST API, but ... ... > urllib3.exceptions.ReadTimeoutError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='mailman-web', port=8000): Read timed out. (read timeout=5) Something appears to be trying to connect to REST on port 8000 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: "held for moderation" - alias domain details sought

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/24 11:14, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2024-11-01 11:04:07 -0700 (-0700), Greg Newby via Mailman-users wrote: >> Hi friends. I've viewed this old thread: >> https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… >> and documentation here: >> https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… >> (and the Postfix docs it links to). Those documents don't seem to guide my >> situation, or maybe I just need a more specific example. The alias domain discussed at https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.h… has nothing to do with what you are doing. >> The problem is that when messages are delivered to the alias domain, they >> are held for moderation. I.e., mail to the alias domain like >> testlist(a)domain.tld is held for moderation, but mail from the same >> subscribed, non-moderated user to testlist(a)lists.domain.tld is posted >> immediately without moderation. > [...] > > I manage a similar setup (though with Exim instead of Postfix), and > when migrating from Mailman v2 to v3 kept the same basic settings > which seemed to work: notably, under Message Acceptance I set the > alias addresses for the list in the Acceptable aliases field. If > memory serves, not doing that caused messages addressed to those > aliases to be unconditionally held for moderation. This is the correct solution. Just add `testlist(a)domain.tld` to the acceptable aliases setting of the `testlist(a)lists.domain.tld` list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: config incoming email in my domain cpanel

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/03/2017 02:14 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > El jue., 3 ago. 2017 a las 16:07, tlhackque via Mailman-users (< > mailman-users(a)mailman3.org>) escribió: > >> You've said you're working with labbrands.com. >> >> labbrands.com has address 192.185.51.89 >> mail.labbrands.com has address 192.185.51.89 >> www.labbrands.com is an alias for labbrands.com. >> >> telnet proves that Exim is running on that IP address. Either you're >> running it, or hostgator is redirecting the SMTP ports. >> >> You added: >> lists.labbrands.com has address 190.145.27.66 >> >> Presumably that's a different machine. >> >> So that now needs an MX record, and a firewall routing. > > > I added the MX record on our hostgator hosting like this: > [image: image.png] > > Is it correct??? Your screen shot, along with the excessive quoting, only caused your post to be "too big". All the screen shot says is you have two MX records. The higher priority, 0, is mail.labbrands.com and the lower priority , 1, is lists.labbrands.com. What this means is mail to the domain will be delivered to mail.labbrands.com unless that server is somehow unreachable in which case lists.labbrands.com will be tried. This is probably not what you want. I hate to say this at this point, but you are on a cPanel host. cPanel provides a functional Mailman 2.1 service. You might save yourself a lot of grief by just using that. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: django request error

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/13/21 3:38 AM, eggert--- via Mailman-users wrote: > What's strange, my mailman-web is referred to by > https://lists.tdl/mailman3/ > this show the message as above: > This page either doesn't exist, or it moved somewhere else. > The links in that page refer to urls like: > https://lists.tld/mailman/postorius/lists/ > This URL does not exist, of course. Where is the mailman3 replaced by mailman? All my config files refer to mailman3. How have you installed Mailman? We usually use links like https://example.com/mailman3 and https://example.com/archives in docs for Postorius and HyperKitty respectively. These are the ones in urlpatterns in mailman-web/urls.py We have also used https://example.com/postorius and https://example.com/hyperkitty as alternatives. To enable these, you need to add ``` url(r'^postorius/', include('postorius.urls')), url(r'^hyperkitty/', include('hyperkitty.urls')), ``` to the definition of urlpatterns in urls.py so it becomes something like ``` urlpatterns = [ url(r'^$', RedirectView.as_view( url=reverse_lazy('list_index'), permanent=True)), url(r'^mailman3/', include('postorius.urls')), url(r'^archives/', include('hyperkitty.urls')), url(r'', include('django_mailman3.urls')), url(r'^accounts/', include('allauth.urls')), # Django admin url(r'^admin/', admin.site.urls), url(r'^postorius/', include('postorius.urls')), url(r'^hyperkitty/', include('hyperkitty.urls')), ] However, that doesn't explain why your `mailman3` URLs get munged to `mailman`. That is apparently a uWSGI thing, and since I've never used uWSGI, only gunicorn and mod_wsgi, I can't help with that other than to suggest that you might have neglected to restart uWSGI after removing the trailing slash. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

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