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[MM3-users] Re: Problems with signed messages from Apple Mail

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/12/21 6:06 AM, Rainer Herbst wrote: > Dear all, > > after upgrading his Mac to MacOS 12.0.1 Monterey, one of our users can > not send send signed messages to lists using Apple Mail v. 15.0 > (3693.20.0.1.32). > > mailman3 denys the delivery of the mail with error message: > host 172.19.0.4[172.19.0.4] said: 501 Message has defects > (in reply to end of DATA command) > > I.e. mailman does not process the message, but rejects it already in the > incoming smtp session. Is that a known issue? Incoming SMTP is relaying the message via LMTP to Mailman's LMTP runner which in turn parses the message using Python's email.message_from_bytes() method and the resultant message has defects. Rejecting such a message outright as we do may be too harsh, but it is hard to say without seeing the message and what Python's email package thinks the defects are. This could be a bug in Apple Mail or in the Python email module. If you wish to see the details, you could do the following in `mailman shell` ``` import email from mailman.email.message import Message content = b"""\ (paste the raw message here) """ msg = email.message_from_bytes(content, Message) msg.defects ``` This will show you what the defects are. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3-suite not sending confirmation emails

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/2/19 11:59 PM, ccehb(a)nus.edu.sg wrote: > Hi, > > This is my first experience using mailman. I recently downloaded and setup mailman3 suite which comes with hyperkitty. I don't really understand why the email is not working. I had an external smtp server (mymailserver.com) residing on different IP from my web server that hosts mailman stuff. > > I had modified settings.py with debug = False and added the following: > > EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend' > EMAIL_HOST = 'mymailserver.com' > EMAIL_PORT = 25 These should be OK, but they are only for messages from Django, not for list mail. Also if mymailserver.com requires authentication, you may need to set EMAIL_HOST_USER and EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD. > I also added these inside mailman.cfg > > [mta] > outgoing: mailman.mta.deliver.deliver > lmtp_host: 127.0.0.1 > lmtp_port: 8024 The above are all defaults. > smtp_host: mymailserver.com > smtp_port: 25 Again, if mymailserver.com requires authentication, you need to set smtp_user and smtp_pass. > Thanks for your help! I check the logs but there isn't anything. When I sign up, nothing happens and I can't figure out why? Is Mailman running? If so, and there's nothing in logs, it is probably using some other (default) config and logging somewhere other than where you think. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Chinese characters in list name shows question mark (?)

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/23/19 7:12 AM, Franklin Weng wrote: > Hi list, > > I set up a mailman3 server and built a few lists to test. > > When I set the list name using Chinese characters, the web site shows > correctly. However in the subscribing welcome mail the list name was > shown in question marks. Screenshot is here: > > https://nextcloud.slat.org/index.php/s/CxPjpYMbQzQ6444 The name of the list from the screenshot seems to be zh-l10n(a)lists.linux.org.tw. The thing shown with ?s in the screenshot is the list's display_name (called Display name in Postorius). > The LANGUAGE_CODE settings.py (in Debian /etc/mailman3/mailman-web.py) > is set to zh-tw , and USE_I18N and USE_L10N are all set to True. These settings are all for Django and have nothing to do with how the list welcome message is sent. > Is there any other setting I should look at? The list's preferred_language setting (Postorius -> Settings -> List Identity -> Preferred Language. The list welcome message is encoded in Mailman's character set for the list's preferred_language. If this is English (USA), the character set is us-ascii. If it is set to Chinese (Taiwan), the character set is utf-8, and it should work. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: About to Install MM3 -- Seeking clarification

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/22/22 21:29, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > Now Mailman starts, and stops as desired when running as mailman user (both in > virtual and non-virtual environments). However, running the service via systemd > still fails. I now get a different traceback: > > Oct 23 03:43:00 mail.server.tld mailman[19410]: Traceback (most recent call last): ... > Oct 23 03:43:00 mail.server.tld mailman[19410]: with open(self._claimfile, 'w') as fp: > Oct 23 03:43:00 mail.server.tld mailman[19410]: PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/opt/mailman/mm/var/locks/mailman-cfg.lck|server.tld|19410|619270043958240354' > Oct 23 03:43:00 mail.server.tld systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE What are ownership and permissions on /opt/mailman/mm/var/locks/ Assuming they are drwxr-xr-x mailman mailman it must be the case that systemd is not running the `/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman start` command as the `mailman` user. I suspect this is a Fedora issue. I note that https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/understanding-and-administe… does not mention User or Group. You might try replacing ``` ExecStart=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman start ExecReload=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman restart ExecStop=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman stop with ExecStart=sudo -u mailman /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman start ExecReload=sudo -u mailman /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman restart ExecStop=sudo -u mailman /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman stop ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Flooded non-members with "prvs=<number>=<mail>"

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/22/24 04:35, Torge Riedel via Mailman-users wrote: > > I checked the non-members list of all my mailman3 lists and found a lot > entries like "prvs=<number>=<mail>", the <mail> is always an address > from @freenet.de > > A quick research mentions something related to bouncing and that such > mails should be blocked/filtered. But no further details. > > Can you give a hint where I need to change what to block such mails and > avoid that such entries floods the non-members list? If these are in fact bounces, the mta at freenet.de is sending bounce DSNs to the list address instead of (or possibly in addition to) the list-bounces address which is the envelope sender of the mail from Mailman. This behavior is wrong, but it is beyond your control. If you can identify a pattern in the From: address that would match these and only these mails, you could probably configure the incoming MTA to discard them. E.g., for Postfix, see https://www.postfix.org/header_checks.5.html You might think of using Mailman's Header filters to discard the messages, but this won't keep the nonmembers from being created as the creation happens before any of those checks. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 months

[MM3-users] Re: Debian 12 postfix errors: "warning: connect to transport private/lmtp: Connection refused" and "status=deferred (mail transport unavailable)"

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/7/25 12:00, Philip Bondi wrote: > [mta] > incoming: mailman.mta.postfix.LMTP > outgoing: mailman.mta.deliver.deliver > lmtp_host: 127.0.0.1 > lmtp_port: 9024 Why are you setting this? Testing uses port 9024 to avoid conflicts, but the default port 8024 should be used for production. > [799] # postconf -n ... > virtual_mailbox_maps = hash:/opt/mailman/mm/var/data/postfix_lmtp Why do you have this? It may well be the issue. > ebill(a)systemdatabase.ca lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:9024 > ebill-bounces(a)systemdatabase.ca lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:9024 > ebill-confirm(a)systemdatabase.ca lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:9024 > ebill-join(a)systemdatabase.ca lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:9024 > ebill-leave(a)systemdatabase.ca lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:9024 > ebill-owner(a)systemdatabase.ca lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:9024 > ebill-request(a)systemdatabase.ca lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:9024 > ebill-subscribe(a)systemdatabase.ca lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:9024 > ebill-unsubscribe(a)systemdatabase.ca lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:9024 > > [797] # telnet localhost 9024 > Trying ::1... > Connection failed: Connection refused > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 shackleton12.systemdatabase.ca GNU Mailman LMTP runner 2.0 > QUIT > 221 Bye > Connection closed by foreign host. It looks like you can connect to port 9024 in this way. However I recommend removing `lmtp_port: 9024` from your mailman.cfg and rerunning `mailman aliases` to regenerate the postfix maps. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Invalid FilterAction: discard. Treating as discard

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/7/19 6:19 AM, Henrik Rasmussen wrote: > Having set the Filter content to Yes - regardless of other setting in the "Alter Messages" tab, make a HTML message come out empty. I can replicate this on my test list. I don't understand the question? Are you asking why the log contains "invalid FilterAction: discard. Treating as discard"? If so, that's a bug. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/592>. If you are asking why the message is empty after filtering and discarded, It is presumably because it is a text/html message as opposed to a multipart/alternative message with text/plain and text/html alternative parts. > I have tried debugging by changing each setting one-by-one and sending the user's mail, but no change makes the mail come out with a content. However setting "Filter content" to "no" makes the mail come out okay. There are list attributes filter_types and pass_types (also filter_extensions and pass_extensions, but those probably aren't relevant here) which affect this and which aren't exposed in Postorius. See <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/handlers/docs/filterin…> for more info of content filtering. Presumably, the combination of filter_types and pass_types is not allowing text/html. You need to examine these settings in mailman shell, e.g. list(m.pass_types) -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Hyperkitty Recommended mySQL Database Setup & Archive Importing

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/8/20 9:05 AM, matthew(a)alberti.us wrote: > > From what I've been reading, it seems like Mailman3 expects > the mysql database to use UTF8 encoding. It appears, by default, that when > using the docker-mailman containers, that the character set is set to > latin1. This may explain why there are lots of import errors, and maybe also > why there are a lot of errors when threads are deleted in hyperkitty's UI. > > > > Is it the case that UTF8 is the preferred character set? I > also saw some threads indicating that maybe utf8mb4 is more preferred. I'd > like to try to change the character_set on the database, if that is > advisable. You want the MySQL encoding for the Mailman database to be utf8mb4. If not, as Ruth says, you will have issues with 4-bute utf-8 encodings. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite/-/blob/master/mailman-suite_projec…> > Also, is Hyperkitty 1.3.4 officially released? I see that the > list.org instance is using it, but the latest announce I've seen is for > 1.3.3. No, it is not. lists.mailman3.org and mail.python.org both run the HEADs of the GitLab branches so they are generally ahead of the latest releases. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

[MM3-users] Re: after upgrade: OperationalError: no such column: hyperkitty_mailinglist.archive_rendering_mode

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/31/24 08:02, Hans Mayer via Mailman-users wrote: > > > Dear All, > > recently I did a system os upgrade debian 11.8 -> 12.4 / bullseye -> > bookworm > > This did also upgrade Mailman3 version 3.3.3 -> 3.3.8 as a used the > packages which came with Debian OS. > > Initially after the upgrade I had some troubles with the MM3 services to > start, but I fixed this. > > Now almost everything is running. Only the Archives are not working. Issues with the Debian poackage should be reported to Debian. See <https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344>. > The browser shows a server error, when I look at the mailman-web.log I see > > ERROR 2024-01-31 15:14:14,403 2699563 django.request Internal Server > Error: /mailman3/hyperkitty/ > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/utils.py", > line 84, in _execute > return self.cursor.execute(sql, params) > File > "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/sqlite3/base.py", > line 423, in execute > return Database.Cursor.execute(self, query, params) > > sqlite3.OperationalError: no such column: > hyperkitty_mailinglist.archive_rendering_mode You need to run the Django admin (however that's spelled in the debian mailmanweb package) `migrate` command (and probably others, e.g., `collectstatic`, `compress`, `compilemessages`). -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: Welcome message template errors

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/21/24 19:15, Mark wrote: > > And the site-owner receives an email with ... > > ==== > Internal Server Error: /mailman3/lists/ > DoesNotExist at /mailman3/lists/ > Site matching query does not exist. > Request Method: GET > Request URL: http://<REDACTED-PUBLIC-IPv4-ADDRESS>/mailman3/lists/ The above means you have to add <REDACTED-PUBLIC-IPv4-ADDRESS> to the list of ALLOWED_HOSTS in your Django settings, but see below. > Django Version: 4.2.11 > Python Executable: /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 > Python Version: 3.11.2 > ... etc ... > === > > Regarding the second line in the email - my thinking is that it should > be looking in "/opt/mailman/mm/var/lists" and not "/mailman3/lists/". It's talking about the path in the URL, not a path in the file system. > The error doesn't occur if the is no custom "Welcome message" template - > ie. the user is sent the default welcome message. I think you must be setting the custom template via Postorius and your Django setting for POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL is wrong. It should be set to the scheme and host you use to access Postorius. I.e, if you normally access Postorius via something like https://example.com/mailman3 set POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL = 'https://example.com' It is probably now set as POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL = 'http://<REDACTED-PUBLIC-IPv4-ADDRESS>' -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

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