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[MM3-users] Re: # comment allowed in a template file?

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/24/20 3:19 AM, skenny(a)scss.tcd.ie wrote: > > I'm running Mailman 3 in maxking's Docker container. I'm also using Puppet to do as much configuration as possible, so I'd like to add a comment to the file that reads something like: > # This file is managed by Puppet. > > Is it ok to do this? I may not have searched the docs enough, but I couldn't find anything relating to comments. If you mean can you add a '#' line that won't be part of the actual rendered template, the answer is No. > One other observation in case it's any use: Initially, I created the template files with owner set to "root". This resulted in postings to lists getting stuck in mailman-core. It's vital that these files are owned by user "mailman". Once I changed the owner of the file to the latter, everything worked. I don't think they need to be owned by 'mailman' as long as they are readable by 'mailman' -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: Virtual alias + shell

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/26/23 4:36 AM, alopez(a)ac.upc.edu wrote: > Hello, > I want to have a mailman configured together with virtual alias. To do that I need to use alias_domain. > I have tried to do it with mailman shell. The domain seams to be created but when I leave the shell and enter again, the domain is not longer there. Because you are leaving mailman shell with exit() which doesn't commit changes. You deed to either explicitly commit with `commit()` or exit with control-D. Recent mailman shell will report in its banner Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. > On the other hand, If I create a domain in administrator interface, it is not listed in the shell. If I create in the web interface, which field correspond to the alias_domain : Domain Name, Display Name , Mail domain? Your Postorius is too old to support alias_domain, and your Mailman core may be too - requires core >= 3.2.0. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years

[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Install Web UI

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/20/25 10:32, Dennis Putnam via Mailman-users wrote: > I'm trying to install the web UI for mailman3. I am getting the > following failure. Can someone help? TIA. > > (venv) mailman :~$ pip install mailman-web mailman-hyperkitty ... > FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > '/tmp/pip-install-y364_cvm/cmarkgfm_9fcba25730114ac4a08d1e > 7733112a45/src/cmarkgfm/cmark.cffi.h' > [end of output] > > note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a > problem with pip. > error: subprocess-exited-with-error > > × Getting requirements to build wheel did not run successfully. > │ exit code: 1 > ╰─> See above for output. > > note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a > problem with pip. I think I've seen a similar error, but I don't recall what I did to work around it. In this case cmarkgfm is a dependency of readme_renderer which in turn is a dependency of postorius. In your venv try pip install cmarkgfm first and then pip install mailman-web mailman-hyperkitty That may avoid this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Walk-thru for Ubuntu Bionic Mailman 3 Full setup

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/16/20 5:03 PM, kelly.close(a)lrewater.com wrote: > I resolved this myself with a search that turned up a 2018 post from Mark that suggested typing "mailman aliases" to create the hash/alias/lookup table/file things in /var/lib/mailman3/data (that's where they are on Ubuntu 18.04). I looked in that folder and sure enough it was empty so I typed "sudo mailman aliases" which did indeed create the 4 things that needed to be there: > postfix_domans > postfix_domains.db > postfix_lmtp > postfix_lmtp.db > > But, they were owned by root:root and everything else under that /ver/lib/mailman3 folder is owned by "list" so I took a guess changed the ownership on the 4 files to list:list. Because that's how you ran it. Run sudo -u list mailman aliases. > Seems to have worked! I was perplexed about why I had to do this though because these were created automatically last time I did this, but I figured that out too. Current `mailman start` should create the aliases. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years

[MM3-users] Re: Monthly job failure

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/25/19 4:08 PM, andrew.bernard(a)gmail.com wrote: > Yes I did. So something is out of sync, the job are referring to lists no longer existing. What is this? I'm confused. The subject of this thread is 'Monthly job failure', but your original post said 'I see this error on startup:' Perhaps you are confused in that the error occurs in 'rebuild_mailinglist_cache_for_month'. That is not a monthly job. That is a queued task to rebuild the cached data for a particular 'by month' view. That task is queued whenever a post is added to update the monthly cache for the year and month of the date of the post, and whenever a thread is deleted to update the monthly cache for the year and month of the date the thread was active. I'm guessing here, but I think you have a task queued for a list that no longer exists in HyperKitty. Go to the Django web admin and look at the DJANGO Q section, particularly Queued tasks, but maybe the others too. Maybe there's a task you can delete. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 11 months

[MM3-users] Re: migration

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/30/21 12:06 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > > Is there a way that I can "dump" the configuration from an existing > mailman3 server, and "import" it into a new instance? I'd really like > to avoid re-doing all of the configuration, etc, as there are quite a > few lists and everything is set up pretty much the way I want it. If you use the same database manager it should be no problem to get a dump of the existing Mailman database to load into the new instance, or if these are on the same server, just point the new instance to the existing database. In either case, the database should be loaded and the Django commands `migrate`, collectstatic`, `compress` and `compilemessages` run[1] before starting Mailman services. Mailman core will run any necessary updates to its database upon startup. You may also need to rebuild the HyperKitty search index with the `update_index` Django command, but you may be able to use the existing one if the search engine is the same. [1] See https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html?highlight=colle… et seq. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 10 months

[MM3-users] Re: mail loops back to myself

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/12/25 05:28, Florian Sukup wrote: > > When I look into the log, first the smtpd receives the message from my > mail client. Then the email is queued. > And then the smtp initiates a TLS layer to send it to the smtpd on the > same machine. For my understanding this cannot be correct. The smtpd at > first should hand it to mailman and not relay it to itself. Is that > correct? That is not correct. Postfix should receive the initial connect and smtp for the list and then transport_maps should tell it to relay the message via lmtp to the configured lmtp_host and lmtp_port (127.0.0.1:8024 per your previously posted mailman.cfg). You have also posted that Postfix main.cf contains transport_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp What is the content of that file? In particular does it contain mylists(a)lists.yyy.com lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 and is the timestamp of /var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp.db >= that of /var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp, and have you restarted/reloaded Postfix since updating main.cf? And, is Mailman core running and listening on port 8024? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year

[MM3-users] Re: How to upgrade to 3.10

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/2/26 18:21, Paul Tomblin via Mailman-users wrote: > I installed 3.9 with pip last week, but i want to upgrade to 3.10. But > pip install -U mailman postorius django-mailman3 hyperkitty mailman-web > doesn't upgrade it. Mailman core 3.3.10 was released to PyPI in October 2024 at any time thereafter `pip install mailman` should have installed Mailman 3.3.10. > Requirement already satisfied: mailman in ./venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (3.3.9) I don't know why 3.3.9 would have been installed at all. > Collecting mailman > Using cached mailman-3.3.10-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (2.4 kB) But it looks like here it's trying to install 3.3.10. > Requirement already satisfied: postorius in ./venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (1.3.13) > ... a bunch of these ... > INFO: pip is looking at multiple versions of mailman to determine which version is compatible with other requirements. This could take a while. > Requirement already satisfied: python-dateutil>=2.0 in ./venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages (from mailman) (2.9.0.post0) > ...a bunch more... Is there any conflict reported in this `bunch more` to force 3.3.9? What if you do `pip install mailman==3.3.10`? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 months, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Implicit destination

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/26/2018 12:54 PM, David Krantz wrote: > > I have a spam-problem like anyone else. Most of the spam my listserver > receives has some kind of impilict destination so the implicit rule > catches most of the spam that way. This is fine. What is not so fine, > however, is that this results in a moderation message to the sender. > I'd like to stop that so that the spammer has no confirmation that the > mail was received. That is not the issue. Sending the held message notice to a spammer, if it reaches the spammer, is probably inconsequential. The issue is that virtually always in spam the sender address is either undeliverable or is the address of an innocent 3rd party. Sending these notices to innocent 3rd parties is called backscatter and is a bad thing. To avoid this backscatter, you can set the list's respond_to_post_requests attribute to False. There are two problems here. One is this setting is not currently exposed in Postorius, and the other is this will also stop desired held message notices such as those from list members. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: content filtering in version 3.1

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/20/19 1:31 AM, Dieter Leupold via Mailman-users wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for your information. But, how I said, I'm new to MM3 and I have > problems with the syntax of the mailman shell. Please, could you give me > an example to set "pass_types" via MM-Shell? > Thank you very much! The documentation of Mailman shell is at <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/docs/shell.ht…>. A simple example in for setting pass_types is ``` $ bin/mailman shell -l list(a)example.com Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell The variable 'm' is the list(a)example.com mailing list >>> m.pass_types <generator object MailingList.pass_types at 0x7fd7e1489840> >>> list(m.pass_types) [] >>> m.pass_types = ['multipart', 'text/plain'] >>> list(m.pass_types) ['multipart', 'text/plain'] >>> At this prompt you can enter commit() to commit your changes, abort() to reverse your changes or control-D to commit and exit. You can also enter exit() to exit, but your changes will not be saved unless you have done a prior commit() -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 6 months

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