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[MM3-users] Re: Cannot Create New List

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/8/25 07:24, dap1--- via Mailman-users wrote: > Unfortunately, after going through all the machinations to get here there were well over 1000 commands. What commands are you specifically needing? Everything went with no errors when I imported the list and archives. It simply does not show up in the web UI. So the question is where did that go? Now that I have the other issues resolved maybe I should just try the import again. However, I am assuming the first import has to hiding somewhere. How did you run `mailman import21`? I.e. as what user, was your venv active, was there any /path/to/mailman? What do you get from `mailman info` run the same way - i.e., what does it report for config file: and db url:? Are these what you expect? How did you run `mailman-web hyperkitty_import`? Again, as what user, was your venv active, was there any /path/to/mailman-web? What do you get from `mailman-web diffsettings|grep DATABASES` run the same way. is the ENGINE what you expect? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: Migrate from mysql to postgresql

by Mark Sapiro

On 03/17/2018 01:44 PM, Bjoern Franke wrote: > Hi, > > is it possible to migrate a mailman3-mysql-database to a > postgresql-database? > > I tried to convert it with pgloader, but some identifiers had to be cut off: > _address_id); > 2018-03-17T21:33:39.087000+01:00 WARNING PostgreSQL warning: Bezeichner > idx_680560_account_emailconfirm_email_address_id_5b7f8c58_fk_account_e > wird auf idx_680560_account_emailconfirm_email_address_id_5b7f8c58_fk_ac > gekrzt I suspect the issue is due to the way Mailman supports different databases via SQLAlchemy. The bottom line is the table and column specifications are based on the Mailman database models, but are database specific. If I were doing this, I would dump the data from MySQL, but rather than using the CREATE TABLE queries from the dump, I would let Mailman create a new PostgreSQL database and then just load the existing tables from the MySQL dump. However, that may all be irrelevant. I don't know which table/column that specific item comes from, but it appears just visually that idx_680560_account_emailconfirm_email_address_id_5b7f8c58_fk_account_e is already truncated so further truncating it to idx_680560_account_emailconfirm_email_address_id_5b7f8c58_fk_ac may not be a problem. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Various patches for mm3 stable 3.3.1

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/30/20 6:57 AM, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > > 1. If I do not set up 'individual' or 'full' personalisation, all is > well and the default footer templates are expanded as expected. However > setting up personalisation causes template expansion to fail > completely, and messages get sent with a blank expansion. Your mailman-debug.patch makes changes to mailman/handlers/decorate.py including wrapping all the relevant code in a try:/except: that logs any exception. If you set the level for logging.error to debug, what do you get in the log? This issue doesn't occur in the unpatched code on my servers - personalized footers work fine - so I think the problem must be something in your patch. > 2. I would find the postorius UI much easier to cope with if the > default template was 'populated' into the UI wherever it was non-blank, > rather than the UI starting off as if no templates were defined at all. This is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/366>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: mailman-suite: Error 500 on Lists /setting/ pages

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/18/20 8:43 AM, ljsbw-it(a)riseup.net wrote: > I just installed Mailman3 (mailman-suite) on my Server following these instructions: https://lab.uberspace.de/guide_mailman-3.html Please see <https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344> > and everything works fine so far. I can create lists, subscribe people and send mails through lists but when I click the settings button and get redirected to /postorius/lists/listname/settings/ i get an Error 500 message. I couldn't find anything in the logs except the uwsgi log: > [pid: 20568|app: 0|req: 62/62] 100.64.115.1 () {48 vars in 1052 bytes} [Wed Nov 18 16:27:59 2020] GET /postorius/lists/listname/settings/ => generated 1102 bytes in 1438 msecs (HTTP/1.1 500) 6 headers in 209 bytes (1 switches on core 0) I think that uwsgi log message just refers to the delivery of the error page to your browser. What other logs are you looking at? There should be something in Mailman core's mailman.log or the Django log whose location is defined in settings(-local).py, probably mailman-suite/logs/mailmansuite.log. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: messages with attachments, without text discarded silently

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/27/25 12:35, Schulz via Mailman-users wrote: > Using the current mailman version, I can reproduce the following: > - send a text-formatted email with attachment but without text body to a list. > - the msg will be received by mailman > - the msg shows up in shunt, the log shows: > ile "/usr/lib/python3.12/email/message.py", line 343, in set_payload > payload = payload.encode(charset.output_charset, 'surrogateescape') > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 10-17: ordinal not in range(128) Please provide the full traceback and the MIME structure of the message. > an attempt to unpickle the file leads to the same error. > I know it's uncommon to send emails without txt but with attachments - but it may happen; at least we would welcome an error message. Without more of the traceback I can't be sure which handler is doing this and without the MIME structure I can't be sure what's going on. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Auth question

by Mark Sapiro

On 03/29/2017 03:46 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Mar 30, 2017, at 12:34 AM, David Krantz wrote: > >> When starting this as the recipe seems reasonable I find that I have >> no reliable source for git links for the parts. Some of the git links >> I find are marked with "do not use" so it is a bit hard having >> confidence in selecting one of the others. > > All the Mailman 3 suite subprojects are listed here: > > https://gitlab.com/mailman > > Those project links will take you to the active git repositories. The only > one you should not use is mailman-bundler. To be more specific, the projects that are required for a fully functioning Mailman installation with Postorius and Hyperkitty are Mailman (the core) Hyperkitty (the archiver) Postorius (the web list management UI) django-mailman3 (common django things used by Postorius and Hyperkitty) MailmanClient (python bindings for the core REST API used by Postorius and Hyperkitty) HyperKitty - Mailman plugin (plugin for the core to communicate with Hyperkitty) -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: configure Mysql and postfix on mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 02/20/2018 10:01 AM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > One _hack_ that I can think of is that when using maps for postfix, Core calls the "postmap" command to generate the maps from the files that it generates. You can potentially provide a script that updates the MySQL database with the same configuration instead of generating maps and specify that script in configuration to be called by Core instead of "postmap". More information on how to do this. On mail.python.org we want to do some manipulations to the various maps, so we have a script to do this. The first step is in your mailman.cfg file, add an [mta] section if there isn't one and in that section add configuration: /path/to/your/postfix.cfg That file is a copy of mailman/config/postfix.cfg except you change the line postmap_command: /usr/sbin/postmap to postmap_command: /path/to/your/script While you could just edit mailman/config/postfix.cfg directly, this is not advisable as your edits will be lost in an upgrade. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: How well does DMARC mitigation work nowadays?

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/28/25 07:27, tom(a)tomsmyth.ca wrote: > Specifically the kind where all list emails come from the the same address, with the sender in Reply-To? > > It seems like this /should/ be the way it works. Isn't that what Reply-To is for? > > Do some email clients still mess it up? If they do, wouldn't it make sense to just send them a bounce notice and tell them to clean up their act? See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/handlers/dmarc… for what we say about this. I'm guessing that your concern is that a `reply` as opposed to `reply all` should go to the poster and not to the list. I think that will be the case with most mainstream MUAs, but RFC 5322 is somewhat wishy-washy about that saying only "When the "Reply-To:" field is present, it indicates the address(es) to which the author of the message suggests that replies be sent." -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Mailman core: basic internationalization howto?

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/04/2017 12:33 PM, thor.rustad(a)gmail.com wrote: > I finally got around to testing this setup. First I verified that the template in /var/templates/site/no was picked up when subscribing. Then I changed the text, and it stopped working. If I add one of these three Norwegian letters to list:user:action:subscribe.txt, I get the following in logs/mailman.log: > > UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character '\xe5' in position 153: ordinal not in range(128) > Oct 04 19:18:41 2017 (29) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode character '\xe5' in position 153: ordinal not in range(128) ... > File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/app/subscriptions.py", line 576, in _handle_confirmation_needed_events > msg = UserNotification(email_address, confirm_address, subject, text) > File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/email/message.py", line 124, in __init__ > @public ??? > UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character '\xe5' in position 153: ordinal not in range(128) > Oct 04 19:18:41 2017 (29) SHUNTING: 1507144721.896973+35dc93aa969a0934bf717ca07965b09924eca59d See my comment at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/413#note_42453740>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: Understanding of members, accounts

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/11/20 5:15 PM, Peter Adebahr via Mailman-users wrote: > Is the solution to "sign up", using one's very e-mail address already in > the system? Yes. The address is in the Mailman Core part of the systen, but not in the web UI part. > I would like to understand why there is a difference between being > (only) a subscribed member and a member having an account - or, what > might be the advantage of being a member without an account? Being a mailing list member is a Mailman core concept. It usually says you receive posts from the list based on your delivery status and you can post based on your moderation status. Logging in to the web UI to access HyperKitty and Postorius is a Django concept and requires a Django account. If all you want is to post by email and receive messages from the list, you don't need a Django account, but to manage your user settings via Postorius and to visit private archives, you do. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 7 months

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