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[MM3-users] Re: About to Install MM3 -- Seeking clarification

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/21/22 09:56, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:52:03 -0700 > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > >> Can you successfully start mailman (or run any mailman commands) >> with, e.g. ``` >> /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman start >> >> or >> >> /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman info >> ``` >> without activating the venv? >> > > Yes. All those are working without activating venv. On my test installation with /etc/systemd/system/mailman3.service installed per https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#starting-mailma… systemctl start|stop|status mailman3 all work. Assuming ``` python3 -c 'from pkg_resources import load_entry_point' ``` (not in your venv) returns no error, try replacing /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman with ``` #!/opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 # EASY-INSTALL-ENTRY-SCRIPT: 'mailman==3.3.5','console_scripts','mailman' __requires__ = 'mailman==3.3.5' import re import sys from pkg_resources import load_entry_point if __name__ == '__main__': sys.argv[0] = re.sub(r'(-script\.pyw?|\.exe)?$', '', sys.argv[0]) sys.exit( load_entry_point('mailman==3.3.5', 'console_scripts', 'mailman')() ) ``` Or in yours posted at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… replace everything from the first `try:` through `globals().setdefault(...)` with ``` from pkg_resources import load_entry_point ``` and see if that helps. Actually, if I replace mine with yours, it still works with systemctl, but this may be dependent on the python version (mine is 3.8.10). I'm really only guessing here, but this in your traceback ``` Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld mailman[782]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman", line 25, in importlib_load_entry_point Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld mailman[782]: return next(matches).load() Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld mailman[782]: StopIteration Oct 19 19:52:03 mail.server.tld systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE ``` seems to say that the `return next(matches).load()` is raising `StopIteration` and that is the issue, so removing that stuff from /opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman may help. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: From address of subscription notifications

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/26/19 2:11 PM, worik wrote: > > When I subscribe some body to to a list I on I get a notification that > says it comes from changeme(a)example.com > > As far as I can tell no subscribers are getting mail with that, so this > is not a crises. But it is untidy and I cannot find where to change it. > > SERVE_FROM_DOMAIN is set in the mailman-web/environment section of > docker-compose.yaml (I am using the docker distribution...) You set it in your mailman.cfg. As it says in mailman/config/schema.cfg > [mailman] > # This address is the "site owner" address. Certain messages which must be > # delivered to a human, but which can't be delivered to a list owner (e.g. a > # bounce from a list owner), will be sent to this address. It should point to > # a human. > site_owner: changeme(a)example.com -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 4 months

[MM3-users] Re: how to delete a list member using the Linux command line

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/19/20 7:29 AM, Mike Wertheim wrote: > I have Mailman 3.2.1 installed (on Debian Linux), using exim4 as the MTA. > > I have been trying to figure out how to use the Linux command line to add > members to a list and delete members from a list, but am having trouble > with deleting. The --delete option to `mailman members` was introduced in Mailman 3.3.0. Your version doesn't have it. Note that as of the next (3.3.2) release, the --add, --delete and --sync options to `mailman members` are deprecated in favor of new `mailman addmembers`, mailman delmembers` and `mailman syncmembers` commands. It should be possible for you to install the current versions of all of these without upgrading just by copying the `cli_*members.py` files from <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/tree/master/src/mailman/commands> to the `mailman/commands/` directory in your current installation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years

[MM3-users] Re: Mysterious Bounces Being Logged

by Mark Sapiro

On March 26, 2021 2:08:01 PM PDT, Brian Carpenter <brian_carpenter(a)emwd.com> wrote: > >I would think any mail administrator for a mailman server would want to > >know why bounces are happening. I never saw this issue with Mailman 2. >Did it exist? No. Mailman 2.1 always included the DSN in notices to the admin. >Is the patch going to make it to the next version of Mailman 3 core? No. I don't think it's generally useful. It's use is too obscure. >Are >there any plans to make bounce processing more transparent to server >admins so we can troubleshoot delivery issues? Absolutely. At first MM3 wasn't processing bounces at all. A GSOC student did the bulk of the current implementation and we were happy to get that even though this piece was missing. We know we need it. If you don't think we're working fast enough, you can submit a merge request or dock our pay. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

4 years, 3 months

[MM3-users] Re: URL-lines in templates get folded

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/18/22 10:45, Frank Steinberg wrote: > > > The folding appears in the raw message sent by Mailman and put into the users INBOX. > > I thought there could be a kind of filter in Mailmans mailout processing that cares for line breaks in order to not exceed approx. 75 chars per line? Some but not all templates are wrapped at column 70 by the function at https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/utilities/stri…. Those that are wrapped are: list:admin:action:subscribe list:admin:action:unsubscribe list:admin:notice:pending list:user:notice:goodbye list:user:notice:hold list:user:notice:no-more-today list:user:notice:probe list:user:notice:refuse list:user:notice:warning list:user:notice:welcome Others are not. For those that are wrapped, there are techniques to avoid wrapping. In particular, lines beginning with whitespace aren't wrapped so if you put your long URL preceded by a space, all on one line it won't wrap. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Make archives private by default

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/11/23 12:03 PM, mrl(a)psfc.mit.edu wrote: > Hi - I imported mailman 2 mailboxes which were private. Settings show them to be private, but they are not. It's possible to view them without being logged in. Should that be happening? No. I don't know what the issue is, but if Postorius shows the list's Archive policy as Private archives HyperKitty should not allow a non-logged in user to view that archive. > Can someone point to me the documentation on mailman.cfg features? I.e., I read on this mailing list that one can set archives for new lists to be private using: > > [styles] > default: private-default That's correct. > But where can I find that and other features? Thanks. I don't think there is a good doc on this, but https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/config/schema.… has a fair amount of documentation in comments. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 1 month

[MM3-users] Re: Is there a way to see all the list's held messages

by Mark Sapiro

On 10/15/22 02:47, Martin Lorenz wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 10/11/22 07:04, bob B via Mailman-users wrote: > [...] >> run mailman' mean you are an admin of the server on which it is >> installed? If so, you can do this in mailman shell, but what do you > > in my case: yes > >> want to see? I.e., just a summary by list of subject, sender and hold >> reason > > how would I do this? For example, a `mailman shell` interaction like this ``` $ /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman shell Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. >>> for mlist in getUtility(IListManager): ... requests = IListRequests(mlist) ... first = True ... for request in requests.held_requests: ... key, data = requests.get_request(request.id) ... if first: ... first = False ... print(mlist.list_id) ... print(f"""\ ... Sender: {data['_mod_sender']} ... Subject: {data['_mod_subject']} ... Date: {data['_mod_hold_date']} ... Reason: {data['_mod_reason']} ... """) ... ``` > Additional question: how would I set/change the owner of a number of lists identifyable by a regular expression? Something like this: ``` >>> import re >>> newowner = 'newowner(a)example.com' >>> user_manager = getUtility(IUserManager) >>> # get the address record for the new owner >>> address = user_manager.get_address(newowner) >>> # create one if necessary >>> if address is None: ... user = user_manager.create_user(newowner) ... address = list(user.addresses)[0] ... >>> for mlist in getUtility(IListManager): ... if not re.search('the criterion', mlist.list_id): ... continue ... # remove existing owners --- for owner in mlist.owners.members: ... owner.unsubscribe() ... # add new owner ... mlist.subscribe(address, MemberRole.owner) ... >>> commit() >>> ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 8 months

[MM3-users] Re: Gmail/Fetchmail in Mailman3?

by Mark Sapiro

On 06/23/2018 02:48 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: > > Our Mailman2 setup uses Fetchmail to retrieve list mail from our > accounts on Gmail. > > Is there a similar setup for Mailman3? Delivery to Mailman is different in Mailman 3. What are you currently doing with Fetchmail? If you are doing something like getting the mail from google and delivering it via SMTP to an MTA on the Mailman server, that should still work for MM 3. If Fetchmail is piping it to a command like "| /path/to/mail/mailman post listname" that won't work in Mailman 3. Mailman 3 gets mail via its own LMTP server (which it calls a runner). Mail is normally delivered to an MTA which is configured to relay the mail via LMTP to the localhost port that Mailman is listening on. So Fetchmail can eithr deliver to the MTA and let the MTA relay to Mailman or deliver directly to Mailman's LMTP port. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years

[MM3-users] Re: Office365 posts shunted (authres.core.SyntaxError)

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/17/20 2:41 PM, brylon(a)oit.rutgers.edu wrote: > > [1] I currently applied this hack to get around the syntax error... > > $ diff -u venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/handlers/validate_authenticity.py.ORIG venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/handlers/validate_authenticity.py > --- venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/handlers/validate_authenticity.py.ORIG 2020-09-16 14:23:03.565482574 -0400 > +++ venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/handlers/validate_authenticity.py 2020-09-17 13:17:09.296409626 -0400 > @@ -70,10 +70,12 @@ > > if config.arc.trusted_authserv_ids and (AUTH_RESULT_HEADER in msg): > header = '{}: {}'.format(AUTH_RESULT_HEADER, msg[AUTH_RESULT_HEADER]) > - authserv_id = AuthenticationResultsHeader.parse(header).authserv_id > - if authserv_id in config.arc.trusted_authserv_ids: > - return header > - > + try: > + authserv_id = AuthenticationResultsHeader.parse(header).authserv_id > + if authserv_id in config.arc.trusted_authserv_ids: > + return header > + except: > + log.exception('AR header failed to parse for message: %s', msg['Message-ID']) > > @retry(Timeout, NUM_TIMEOUT_RETRIES) > def authenticate(msg, msgdata): I think that's fine. Also, you should look at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/765>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

[MM3-users] Re: spanish localization

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/14/21 3:21 AM, Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via Mailman-users wrote: > > I did some exploration this morning (Spain time) in the weblate > statistics and archives and I found that the changes done from > Victoriano and me were recorded. I did a screencopy of all that if > someone has any doubt about it. I downloaded this files: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 1002 wheel 11037 Feb 14 10:57 gnu-mailman-django-mailman3-es.po > -rw-r--r-- 1 1002 wheel 34511 Feb 14 10:54 gnu-mailman-hyperkitty-es.po > -rw-r--r-- 1 1002 wheel 143758 Feb 14 10:51 gnu-mailman-mailman-es.po > -rw-r--r-- 1 1002 wheel 104997 Feb 14 10:49 gnu-mailman-postorius-es.po > > The thing is that they differ from the .po installed via pip upgrade. > Mostly, as said, postorius, hyperkitty and django_mailman3. The latest packages in PyPI (pip) were released on Feb 2 except for django-mailman3 which was released on Jan 15. They don't include updates after those dates. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 4 months

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