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[MM3-users] Re: 404 on fresh install (Debian11)

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/23/23 08:42, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 6:13 PM thomas--- via Mailman-users < > mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > >> Thanks both of you. I didn't know Debian11 version is out of date. I will >> try using pip. >> > No. Debian 11 is _not_ out of date. It's just that the preferred and easy > to support installation method is using the virtualenv. The Debian stable mailman packages definitely ARE out of date. bullseye (stable) has Mailman core 3.3.3 and django-mailman3 1.3.5 (current releases are 3.3.8 and 1.3.9 respectively) It is unclear what Postorius and HyperKitty versions are in mailman3-web 0+20200530-2. bookworm (testing) and sid (unstable) do have current versions of Mailman core and django-mailman3 and possibly mailman3-web 0+20200530-2.1 has current Postorius and HyperKitty, but those are generally not the Debian packages that most users would install. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Postfix SMTP REJECT non-subscribers

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/10/24 12:26 AM, Matthew Blissett via Mailman-users wrote: > > With Mailman 2, I have configuration and scripts to reject non-members > from posting to lists _during the SMTP connection_. This is better than > bouncing (no backscatter), better than discarding messages (the user > finds out) and better than moderation (spammy messages aren't forwarded > to external email systems). > > > The configuration and scripts are described here: > https://code.launchpad.net/~jimpop/mailman/check_subscriber > > > Is anything like this built-in to Mailman 3? I cannot find it in Gitlab. No. nothing similar is built in to Mailman 3, but it shouldn't be difficult to implement. It could be done with a milter as in the above implementation, or it could be done by modifying the _handle_RCPT function in mailman/runners/lmtp.py to check if the sender is a member of the recipient list. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 2 months

[MM3-users] Re: mail stuck in "out" queue

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/10/24 07:44, pdw(a)mythic-beasts.com wrote: > > The messages were constantly re-appearing in the "out" queue with different file names (I assume they were going via the retry queue). First check to ensure there are no files in Mailman's var/templates/ directory that are not readable by the Mailman user. That can cause this issue. > After multiple restarts trying to get some debug information, the hard loop seems to have stopped recurring, and the messages are sat in the "shunt" queue. They've not been delivered to recipients, but they are in the hyperkitty archive. The shunted messages should have a SHUNTING entry with an exception and traceback in mailman.log. If there were files unreadable by Mailman in Mailman's var/templates/ directory and you have corrected that, you can move the shunted messages back to their original queue with `mailman unshunt`. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

9 months, 1 week

[MM3-users] Re: mailman3 on new Debian 12 installation, got ssl apache working on all URLs except /mailman3

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/31/25 06:26, Philip Bondi wrote: > My /etc/mailman3/urls.py is empty. > > Should I, like it indicates in https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > cp /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailman_web/urls.py /etc/mailman3/urls.py > chown mailman:mailman /etc/mailman3/urls.py > and add to /etc/mailman3/settings.py > > ROOT_URLCONF = 'urls' You can do all of that, but it's probably unnecessary. What is in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailman_web/urls.py? compare it to https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-web/-/blob/master/mailman_web/urls.py > After completing above, https://systemdatabase.ca/mailman3 still gives > Service Unavailable It appears that https://systemdatabase.ca/postorius works so the issue is almost certainly that your urls.py is missing path('mailman3/', include('postorius.urls')), -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Relay Access Denied

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/22/25 10:25 AM, jkoral(a)luc.edu wrote: > Here is what I have in postfox_lmtp. Do I need to add another line for joetest(a)lists.luc.edu as well? > > joetest(a)listservnew.luc.edu lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 > joetest-bounces(a)listservnew.luc.edu lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 > joetest-confirm(a)listservnew.luc.edu lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 > joetest-join(a)listservnew.luc.edu lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 > joetest-leave(a)listservnew.luc.edu lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 > joetest-owner(a)listservnew.luc.edu lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 > joetest-request(a)listservnew.luc.edu lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 > joetest-subscribe(a)listservnew.luc.edu lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 > joetest-unsubscribe(a)listservnew.luc.edu lmtp:[127.0.0.1]:8024 If you want to address the lists @lists.luc.edu, the list names should be, e.g. joetest(a)lists.luc.edu, not joetest(a)listservnew.luc.edu. If you want to be able to use either domain for list mail, that's more involved. If you want this, say so and as I have time I can make suggestions., but I suspect you really only want to use the lists.luc.edu domain. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 month, 3 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Problems with SPOOFED_UNAUTH

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/9/25 08:42, M.Ede via Mailman-users wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I use mailman together with mailcow and have configured my mailing list as follows: > - Anonymous list: Yes > - DMARC mitigation action: Replace From: with list address > - DMARC Mitigate unconditionally: Yes > > My problem is that my emails are not being accepted by mailcow (rspamd) with the error > SPOOFED_UNAUTH (50.00) > ... > What am I still doing wrong? Can you help me, which setting is still missing? > What informations are you still missing? I doubt that this has anything to do with the ARC-*, Authentication-Results or DKIM-Signature headers you quote. There are some threads on SPOOFED_UNAUTH in the mailcow community forum, e.g. https://community.mailcow.email/d/403-spoofed-unauth-rspamd and https://community.mailcow.email/d/637-problems-with-emails-keep-getting-rej… Also see https://www.reddit.com/r/mailcow/comments/12lhw8e/whitelist_ip/ These came up in a google search for SPOOFED_UNAUTH. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 week, 1 day

[MM3-users] Re: Installation Questions [Installation}

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/3/24 11:31, Arte Chambers via Mailman-users wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm running Ubuntu 24.10 and following the Virtualenv instructions > <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setup-mailman-u…>. > When creating the mailman user per the instructions I find that the mailman > user doesn't have sufficient permissions to do things later in the > installation such as creating files in /etc. What steps should I take to > ensure that the mailman user has the correct permissions to install the > Mailman app. We should probably cover this in the docs, but for /etc/mailman3, you should do ``` sudo mkdir /etc/mailman3 sudo chown mailman:mailman /etc/mailman3 sudo chmod 755 /etc/mailman3 ``` Then you can create all the subordinate files as the mailman user. For other things like the systemd service and the postfix and web server configs, you need to do them as root (via sudo). -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

10 months, 2 weeks

[MM3-users] Re: Mail configuration

by Mark Sapiro

On 03/23/2018 10:05 AM, Darren Smith wrote: > > We have been told that "warming up" the IP is the way to go - that is, > cutting over just some of the traffic a little at a time. So what I am > looking for is a way for all mail on our domain to be sent to our current > mailman installation, and based on some configuration (certain mailing > lists?) certain emails being sent out to the list subscribers will first be > forwarded to the new server and be sent from the new IP address. > > Does that make sense? > > Does anyone know a way that mailman/postfix can be configured to accomplish > this? Is this Mailman 3 or Mailman 2.1? The Mailman side of this would be different depending on which. If it's Mailman 2.1, a better list is mailman-users(a)python.org <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 5 months

[MM3-users] Re: Fresh installation mailman3-suite via "pipx" - any experiences yet?

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/25/24 12:20, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 4:43 PM Wikinaut <mail(a)tgries.de> wrote: > >> I recently found the "pipx" wrapper very useful and wanted to ask you if >> this could be facilitate the fresh installation of the mailman3-suite. >> Has anyone in the list already experiences installing mailman and >> mailmanweg through "pipx"? ... > > if pipx doesn't create a virtual > environment, then there is no difference with installing MM3 using apt! pipx apparently does create virtual environments. See https://pipx.pypa.io/stable/comparisons/ The thing there that concerns me is "pipx replaces a subset of pip's functionality; it lets you install cli applications but NOT libraries that you import in your code." What does this say about the multiple dependencies that we install. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 7 months

[MM3-users] Re: Question: What happens if I delete a user from all lists and that user is sole owner of some list?

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/3/24 04:07, David Partain via Mailman-users wrote: > > I might have been able to manage them using the command line on the old > installation, but there is no 'mailman delmembers' on that box. There is bin/remove_members. > My question is: If one of these users is the sole owner of a list, what > will happen? Will the user be deleted and that list now owner-less? > Will mailman refuse to delete that user until I add a new owner? The `mailman delmembers` command deletes only members, i.e those with MemberRole member. It does not delete owners, moderators or nonmembers. You may also be interested in the script at https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/clean_users.py -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 5 months

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