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Re: Moderation request email from a non existing user

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/31/22 02:15, David Lopez via Mailman-users wrote: > Every day mailman (MM 3.3.3 (Tom Sawyer)) sends me an email with a held unsubcription request from X user. This user is not subcribed to that list anymore but every day an email is sending to the list owner. On the web interface there's nothing pending for approval or similar. Is there anyway to avoid receiving this anoyning email every day? Thanks in advance. Postorius >=1.3.5 has an `Unsubscription Requests` choice in the `Subscription requests` pull down. This choice will list the request with and allow you to delete it. For earlier Postorius this needs to be done via the REST API or via mailman shell. For example: ``` $ bin/mailman shell -l list(a)example.com Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. The variable 'm' is the list(a)example.com mailing list >>> pendingsdb = getUtility(IPendings) >>> for token, data in pendingsdb.find(m, pend_type='unsubscription'): ... if data['token_owner'] == 'moderator': ... pendingsdb.confirm(token) ... data about the request will be displayed here >>> commit() >>> ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 11 months

Re: Pck files stuck in out queue

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/7/25 10:08, Lieuallen, Thomas Otis via Mailman-users wrote: > > I have a remaining issue that baffles me. With my test list, I created a template for ‘list:member:regular:header’. It just has text in it, keeping it simple. I create it and see the entries in the database tables and they are correct. However, when I send a test email, my template text is not inserted, but instead another simple text: “testing hello”. I do the same with list:member:regular:footer, and it works just fine. It is just the header that is working incorrectly. When I remove that postorius header template for the list, that ‘testing hello’ goes away. So, it’s only appearing when I have a postorius template setup for that list. What do you get from the following database queries? SELECT * FROM template WHERE name = 'list:member:regular:header'; SELECT * FROM postorius_emailtemplate WHERE name = 'list:member:regular:header'; Depending on your installation, these tables may be in separate databases, i.e., template table in mailman db and postorius_emailtemplate in mailmanweb db. And what do you get if you go to the uri in the result(s) from the first query? The context in the first results and maybe the second results should also be a clue. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 3 months

Re: User management page [was: Changing subscription address]

by Abhilash Raj

> On Mar 22, 2021, at 7:56 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <turnbull.stephen.fw(a)u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > > Abhilash Raj writes: > >> Typo :( Page in Postorius is what I meant to say. > > :D No problemo, mon, I just did it too -> > >> Is that necessarily required? Every user in Django has a corresponding >> user in Core, but the converse isn’t true and I am not sure if that is even >> required. > > I meant "accessed from Postorius or HyperKitty." :-) > >> You will be able to see: >> - Does the user have a Django account? >> - All Subscriptions for the User >> - All addresses of the User >> >> You will be able to perform following actions: >> - Add or remove a user’s address >> - Verify or un-verify an address >> - Set any address as primary for the user >> - Update display name of the user >> - Update address on any of the subscriptions > > I don't think we *need* a Django account for what I'm thinking of. I > do think that creating the account on User access from Postorius might > make the implementation logic simpler. > >> What I am on fence about: >> - Provide a full blown preferences menu to the admin for that user. This >> will also make the UI extremely complex to see and implement. > > Wait to decide on that until I have a mockup or maybe a full MR. > >> But, when you have an account in Django with a different email >> (email2) and a different Mailman user (user2) and you add a second >> email (email1) to your account and are able to prove ownership by >> verifying the address, Django will ask Core to add that second address >> (email1) to your Mailman user (user2) and absorb “user1”. This >> process is already implemented. > > Good. > >> However, if two Django accounts are created for “user1” and “user2” >> then situation becomes more tricky and currently we don’t have a >> way to resolve that short of delete one of the accounts and add the >> addresses to other account. > > Delete "that" and add its attributes to "this" is what I had in mind. We could automate the absorb other account and copy all settings and subscriptions over in a user based workflow. I don’t see a lot of unknowns in implementing that. You have to manually do it today, and deleting account will delete subscriptions so when you add them to your other account you have to resubscribe. So, the path could really use some changes. I think I have a ticket open in P to allow deleting P account but not delete the Mailman User and subscriptions, which would make this manual process much better. -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

5 years, 1 month

Re: hyperkitty won't list more than 5 posts and shows empty grey Activity Summary box

by Abhilash Raj

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 15:45:48 -0700 Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 08/09/2017 02:35 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 13:42:20 -0700 > > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > [...] > > > > I wasn't aware that Core needed cron jobs too, is that true for 3.1 release as > > well? > > > It's only that one and whether it's needed or not depends on list > configuration. The list has attributes digest_send_periodic and > digest_size_threshold. When a post is received it is added to the list's > digest mbox, and if that causes the size of the mbox to reach > digest_size_threshold K bytes, a digest is sent. Additionally, if > digest_send_periodic is true, a digest is sent periodically whether or > not it has reached digest_size_threshold. > > However, the sending of periodic digests depends on cron running > something periodically to actually trigger the sending. Can this be done using the REST API? If not, maybe we should do that so that Postorius can take of the periodic tasks? I am thinking mostly about the container images because the mailman-core container runs nothing else other than Core. I'd have to another cron for this which isn't a lot of overhead but since mailman-web container already has periodic tasks, it would be great if I could trigger it from there. > > Note: I've just looked at the code and there seems to be an issue with > using 'mailman digests --send' to send the periodic digests. It appears > that if a list's digest mbox has any messages, 'mailman digests --send' > will send a digest even if digest_send_periodic is false. I've just > reported <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/384> for this issue. Also, it seems that Postorius doesn't have any way to set `digest_send_periodic` and only has a setting to set the max_threshold for the digest. I opened another issue (https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/issues/211) to add this feature. -- thanks, Abhilash Raj

8 years, 8 months

Mass subscribe gives HTTP Error 500 when using custom template

by Jeffrey D

Hi, I have some issues with the Mass Subscribe option on Mailman 3.2.1. When using a custom "The notice sent to a member when they are subscribed to the mailing list." template, Postorius will throw an exception after pushing the "Subscribe Users" button on Mass Subscribe. In the web interface you will see a red notification bar with the text: "HTTP Error 500: b'A server error occurred. Please contact the administrator.'". And in the Mailman.log you will see the following error message: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.7/wsgiref/handlers.py", line 137, in run self.result = application(self.environ, self.start_response) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/database/transaction.py", line 50, in wrapper rtn = function(*args, **kws) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/rest/wsgiapp.py", line 216, in __call__ return super().__call__(environ, start_response) File "falcon/api.py", line 215, in falcon.api.API.__call__ File "falcon/api.py", line 189, in falcon.api.API.__call__ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/rest/members.py", line 266, in on_post pre_approved=pre_approved) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/subscriptions.py", line 520, in register list(workflow) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/workflow.py", line 69, in __next__ return step() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/subscriptions.py", line 326, in _step_do_subscription self.member = self.mlist.subscribe(self.subscriber) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/database/transaction.py", line 85, in wrapper return function(args[0], config.db.store, *args[1:], **kws) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/model/mailinglist.py", line 494, in subscribe notify(SubscriptionEvent(self, member)) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/zope/event/__init__.py", line 31, in notify subscriber(event) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/membership.py", line 169, in handle_SubscriptionEvent send_welcome_message(mlist, member, member.preferred_language) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/app/notifications.py", line 52, in send_welcome_message 'list:user:notice:welcome', mlist, language=language.code)) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/model/template.py", line 188, in get name, lookup_context, **substitutions) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/database/transaction.py", line 85, in wrapper return function(args[0], config.db.store, *args[1:], **kws) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/model/template.py", line 109, in get contents = protocols.get(actual_uri, **auth) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/protocols.py", line 38, in get response = requests.get(url, timeout=REQUEST_TIMEOUT, **kws) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/requests/api.py", line 75, in get return request('get', url, params=params, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/requests/api.py", line 60, in request return session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 533, in request resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 646, in send r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 516, in send raise ConnectionError(e, request=request) requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='localhost', port=8000): Max retries exceeded with url: /postorius/api/templates/list/<MAILINGLIST>/list:user:notice:welcome (Caused by NewConnectionError('<urllib3.connection.HTTPConnection object at 0x7f0b5ce8d8d0>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 111] Connection refused')) Postorius/Mailman is running on port 8001, only Postorius still connecting on port 8000. Anyone seen something similar? Thanks in advance! Jeffrey

6 years, 3 months

Re: New Mailman Releases

by Abhilash Raj

On 10/26/22 13:48, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Ideally, `pip` shouldn't have allowed you to install aiosmtpd in a > Python venv with 3.10, but that depends on which version of pip you are > using since the newer versions have better support for such management. > > > I followed the HOWTO by the late BC > <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Howto_Install_Mailman3_On_Debian10> for my > installation. I did not have to choose any specific version of pip. > I just used what was in the system at that time, which was based on the > Python version on the system. So, actually, it isn't the fault of pip or yours. I check aiosmtpd and it doesn't declare an upper bound on the supported python versions since when the last release came out, the max version was 3.9 and it supported that. There hasn't been a release since 3.10 came out. > > > 2. Is it possible to downgrade the Python in a Venv down to 3.9 > without > > breaking the installation? > > You can keep the current installation running and create a 2nd > installation by simply creating a 2nd venv with 3.9. Something like, > `/opt/mailman/mm/venv-3.9/`. You can install things into that venv and > when you are done and ready to switch, you can update all the paths in > various places to use update 'venv-3.9' instead of 'venv'. > > > That procedure seems way too much work for someone not so well versed > with the PATHs used in MM3. > Since I don't remember ever having to install aiosmtpd (not even sure > what it is!) I believe I should not worry. You basically just need to follow the install instructions again, skipping any parts about creating configs, data mta etc. with the new path to venv. > > 'pip3 list | grep smtpd' yielded nothing in my install. Is that > expected? Or aiosmtpd is part of the core? Yes, it is a dependency of Core and you _should_ find it in the venv. Not sure if you have that activated, but it should result in an installed package if you are inside venv. > > In case you encounter any issues, you can always revert back to older > 'venv' in the paths wherever the are needed and bring back the old > install. Venvs are good for multiple installs so you can switch back > and > forth pretty easily. > > > Talking of moving between VENVs, you did not mention about migrating the > lists/list data between then :-) You don't need to migrate lists, as long as you keep the same configs & database, the 2nd install will just pickup the old data. Make sure you aren't downgrading the version of Mailman though when switching between VMs (which typically won't happen if you just use "pip install", unless you specify version constraints like mailman==3.3.0 for old versions). > > > > > And finally, is there documentation/procedure to upgrade a VENV > install > > in this case? > > You don't want to upgrade venv is what i've heard, you should always > create a new one if you are bumping python versions. > > > Noted. And only Python versions, right? Like 3.10 to 3.11? Yes, only Python versions! Packages inside can be upgraded. > (3) Upgrade package > Finally, upgrade your packages: > > Here, I am a little confused. The official MM3 documentation says the below: > *(venv) $ pip install -U mailman postorius django-mailman3 hyperkitty > mailman-web* > > However, thee howto by BC, there was no installation for django-mailman3 > and mailman-web. So I am unable to map 1:1 what needs to be done > to upgrade to these 5 components of > 1. Mailman Core 3.3.6 [1] > 2. Postorius 1.3.7 [2] > 3. Hyperkitty 1.3.6 [3] > 4. Mailmanclient 3.3.4 [4] > 5. Django-mailman3 1.3.8 [5] > > What should I add to the command line below so that everything is updated? > > (venv) mailman@lists:~$ pip install -U mailman postorius hyperkitty > mailman-hyperkitty This will work! Yeah, basically upgrade only the packages you installed previously. The official documentation asks you to explicitly specify all Mailman packages (even the downstream libraries like django-mailman3 and mailmanclient, which will already be upgraded when you install new version of Postorius or Hyperkitty) and mailman-web. You probably don't need "mailman-web". I'd recommend just specifying all the released packages, except mailman-web since you aren't using that. > Sorry to bother you so much. No worries :-) -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

3 years, 6 months

message file gone, but exists in database?

by Thor Atle Rustad

I'm investigating some problems, and in the process I want to delete some messages. First, listing all messages: >>> messages = list(message_store.messages) Traceback (most recent call last): File "<console>", line 1, in <module> File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/model/messagestore.py", line 117, in messages yield self._get_message(row) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/model/messagestore.py", line 95, in _get_message with open(path, 'rb') as fp: FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/mailman/var/messages/5X/7W/5X7WMWNORTGVNB6KVWTHHOI2VF2BEQ7K' Since this message should not exist in database, I try to delete it: >>> message_store.delete_message('5X7WMWNORTGVNB6KVWTHHOI2VF2BEQ7K') >>> commit() >>> messages = list(message_store.messages) Traceback (most recent call last): File "<console>", line 1, in <module> File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/model/messagestore.py", line 117, in messages yield self._get_message(row) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailman/model/messagestore.py", line 95, in _get_message with open(path, 'rb') as fp: FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/mailman/var/messages/5X/7W/5X7WMWNORTGVNB6KVWTHHOI2VF2BEQ7K' However, it continues to exist in mailman's mind I also cannot delete messages that actually exist. For instance, I find a message in Postorius that I want to delete. I look at the headers and then run >>> message_store.delete_message('6XFISRRFY74NJEE4FTRNWOA2KGKDBZ3T') >>> commit() After that, the message continues to live, both in postorius and as a file: bash-4.3# ls 6XFISRRFY74NJEE4FTRNWOA2KGKDBZ3T What is wrong?

7 years, 8 months

Re: Unable to update templates

by Mark

On 5/28/25 01:14, Mark wrote: >> >> Then I created a template using Postorius and updated the uri in >> mailman.templates to: >> >> file:///opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/lists/testlist.example.com/en/list:use… >> - and that works. >> >> It's looking promising. Now I just need to modify my script that >> periodically copies the data from the >> "mailmanweb.postorius_emailtemplate" table to a file and updates the >> uri. On 2025-05-28 19:17, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Which says get the template from the file system at that location and > don't ask for it from Postorius at all. This would be the default > action if there were no entry for this template in the > mailman.template table at all. I.e. you now have a template in > Postorius, but it is not used. I have jumped the gun on thinking that the template as a file was working. It's not. It's the same story: the initial file template is good, but it's for sure getting cached somewhere, and an updated file is ignored. The same as when the template was being drawn from the database. Restarting mailman3 and mailmanweb didn't help, neither did rebooting the server. Looking at Gunicorn status, I see a failing connection to 127.0.0.1 which is the error message I was getting when adding a new subscriber - with the custom Welcome template in the database (which is why I moved it to file). 127.0.0.1 and locahost are in the ALLOWED_HOSTS and CSRF_TRUSTED_ORIGINS of the settings.py file I'm at a loss with this caching problem. Any other clues happily received. $ gunicorn --version gunicorn (version 21.2.0) $ gunicorn status [2025-05-29 02:29:41 +0000] [17838] [INFO] Starting gunicorn 21.2.0 [2025-05-29 02:29:41 +0000] [17838] [ERROR] Connection in use: ('127.0.0.1', 8000) [2025-05-29 02:29:41 +0000] [17838] [ERROR] Retrying in 1 second. [2025-05-29 02:29:42 +0000] [17838] [ERROR] Connection in use: ('127.0.0.1', 8000) # ps -ef | grep gunicorn root 1522331 1521736 0 22:57 pts/1 00:00:00 grep gunicorn mailman 1608073 1 0 May20 ? 00:01:24 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf mailman_web.wsgi:application mailman 1608075 1608073 1 May20 ? 02:24:20 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python3 /opt/mailman/venv/bin/gunicorn -c /etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf mailman_web.wsgi:application

11 months, 1 week

Re: {Spam?} Server name in new account confirmation email

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/3/20 9:26 AM, Meehan, John wrote: > Hi, when someone creates a new account (Sign Up), an email is sent to them to confirm their email address. It has the form below. Does anyone know how I can change the server name in the URL (From server.example.com to something else)? I have an SSL proxy server that I want to direct users through. Thanks. - John This message comes from django_allauth. The domains come from the django_site database table. If you have Postorius >= 1.3.3 The Domains view will show you the SITE_ID for the domain and has an `Edit` link the the Django admin UI entry for that site. Otherwise, you can go to the Django admin `Sites` view and see the DOMAIN NAME and DISPLAY NAME for each defined site, and you can edit the domain name. You may also need to adjust the SITE_ID setting in your Django settings to match the site you want. The trick here is the SITE_IDs aren't displayed in the Django admin UI or in Postorius < 1.3.3, and they may not be sequential or start at 1. If you query the database with `SELECT * FROM django_site;` you'll see entries with columns id, domain and name which will tell you the SITE_ID. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

Re: Social signup?

by Duane Raymond

Thanks Stephen, With support to dip in on how to do this, I would hope it is the start of a series of contributions to the platform :-) My starting point these days is asking chatGPT how to add the functionality. The response looks convincing but often has some glaring errors in it...but at least it helps me narrow down where I start and give me an idea of the steps/complexity of the task. I'll jump over to the developers list when I start this (I'm about to travel for a week to run an annual event in Oxford - so the far removed from programming)...but which chatGPT suggested so far was 1. Extending postorius/signups.html with a loop to get the configured social login providers PLUS adding a csrf_token field to the form 2. Modifying postorius/views.py (which doesn't seem to exist but there is a postorius/views folder) - so perhaps this is views/urls.py So with dev community support and chatGPT support I should be able to muddle through it! Probably as practice I'll convert a recent simple Flask app I built into django to get familiar with Django as a framework before I dip into postorius & hyperkitty Cheers, Duane On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 at 08:26, Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen.fw(a)u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Duane Raymond writes: > > > I'll dip into the code in the next weeks and see if I can figure > > out how to add it (using the example of the login page) > > Welcome to the team! :-D > > I doubt you need any Python code; I think you just need to add buttons > in HTML in the page template, and an explanation of where the user > will end up (probably not where they expect ;-). I forget how this > works, but you might even be able to ensure a redirect to where they > expect to go in pure Django templating language. If not, it will > likely need a straightforward one-line change to the view. > > If all that makes sense to you, great! If not, feel free to ask > questions, here, or perhaps more appropriately on > mailman-developers(a)python.org. > > Steve >

3 years, 1 month

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