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Re: Deactivate list without deleting it?

by Colin Watson

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 04:34:48PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Colin Watson writes: > > I possibly should have explained our situation in a little more > > detail. > > Well, I was pretty clear on your requirements, it turns out. I don't, > and I believe I'm in agreement with the rest of the team here, need to > know why you want something (at least not at this "let's see if we can > hash out the requirements and the design a bit" stage). After all, > even if we end up WONTFIXing it, it's open source and we're happy to > talk about how you might do something even if we won't do it for you! I appreciate that approach. At the same time, I also asked because I suspected I didn't quite understand the design principles involved. Thanks to both you and Barry for clarifying the intent of IArchiver; I'll drop that idea. > > Postorius wouldn't come into it in our case > > That's an interesting detail. Thing is, at present Postorius *is* the > "control panel" for the whole suite (all the best bands are run by > their bassists, you know), so we would bring it up if you left it out. I'm not ruling out using it in future, but right now I think we'd prefer to stick with the approach of having the "control panel" integrated tightly into LP. > However, if you don't want to use Postorius, I think the > mailman-client functionality will make it strightforward to implement > your UI within Launchpad, and it now includes a nicer CLI so if you > prefer to implement core and Hyperkitty functionality before the > Launchpad side, mailman-client will allow you to test core features at > that stage. Indeed. And I'd managed to miss the existence of mailmanclient, so thanks for bringing that up. > > I'd been thinking more of a new enum in HyperKitty for the visibility > > state, since it does seem like quite an archiver-specific thing. > > Well, there is an enum in core for it already. I'm not sure how that > works currently (specifically, how you go about telling Hyperkitty if > that changes). Keeping that in sync is an issue (at least for us), > since Postorius can query it, IIRC. I just looked into what HK does, and I notice that it syncs the archive policy from Core as part of a regular update job. So I think the answer is that we just use that: perhaps set the ArchivePolicy to private and arrange that nobody has the ability to view it other than maybe list owners, or possibly add a new item to ArchivePolicy that's something like "deactivated" or "hidden". At any rate that looks a lot more tractable since most of the mechanism already exists. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [cjwatson(a)ubuntu.com]

7 years, 7 months

Re: Mailman3 on virtual domains

by Lars Bjørndal

[Mark] [...] > > Ok, so I have to create an alias_domain in Mailman. Is it possible to do that from the web interace? > > It has been in postorius since 1.2.0. Mine is 1.3.8. > > > I find an Edit button for each domain, and then I may change name and description. But I can't find an option to add an alias_domain. As I'm blind, and using a text only browser, some information may have been missing. Or can I do it from the command line? > > If your Postorius is >=1.2.0, there should be 3 fields on the Edit domain > page - Description, Alias Domain and Web Host. The whole page looks > something like: [...] Thanks, got it. I was confused becasue there are two Edit buttons on the prior page, one right above SITE_ID number and another (the button I had to use) inbetween Templates and Delete. Thanks a lot for your assistance! Lars

2 years

Re: Splitting hosts: mta&core vs postorius

by Ruth Ivimey-Cook

Stephen, On 6/22/20 6:23 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > By design, Mailman core doesn't need to talk to the Internet or to the > secure internal network -- Internet functions are delegated to the MTA > and the webapps, and local configuration is via shell access which in > principle could be console. Sorry, I missed this earlier. Ironically I am doing exactly what you are suggesting -- splitting the django frontend web app from the mailman core. In my current case I have put the mailman core on the same host as my mailserver, but that was for the sake of simplicity while I got that split sorted -- I am using exim and there is a big benefit when exim can see the list directory names. I may eventually move mailman-core elsewhere. However, I find the mailman shell program not very intuitive, and so would prefer to have the web app for admin purposes. Regards, Ruth

5 years, 3 months

db migration from mailman3.2.2 to mailman3.3.9 (sqlite3 to postgres16)

by Peter Thornton

Hello, I know this question comes up here periodically, but I am having some trouble performing a data migration from an older version of mailman3 to a more recent one. We have a legacy environment with: mailman3.2.2 postorius 1.2.4 hyperkitty 1.2.2 there are two sqlite3 dbs for mailman core and mailman web. I've staged a new environment using the docker-mailman project with the following: mailman3.3.9 postorius 1.3.10 hyperkitty 1.3.8 there is a single postgres db here for both core and web. I've tried migration a few different ways, using pgloader, and also with some manual python scripts. Data is definitely not my forte, but I am struggling to get a working instance. I am running into several issues such as foreignkeyviolations, datatype mismatches, unique PK errors, etc.. Does anyone out there have a prescriptive process for this migration, or a suggestion for workflow/tooling that has worked in a similar upgrade process? Thanks! -Peter

2 months, 1 week

[MM3-users]Re: mailman 2 vs. mailman 3: what happened to multipart/digest?

by Simon Hanna

On 05/14/2016 07:11 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 5/13/16 5:05 PM, Simon Hanna wrote: >> On 05/12/2016 09:26 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >>> On May 12, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> >>>> It is the intent that Postorius will eventually expose all these >>>> settings. We're not there yet. At present you could possibly do this by >>>> interacting with mailmanclient, although I'm not certain the settings are >>>> exposed there. >>> >>> I'm not sure if they're exposed in mailmanclient, but they are exposed in the >>> core's REST API, on the member resource. It's the `delivery_mode` attribute >>> and it takes as legal values one of 'regular', 'plaintext_digests', >>> 'mime_digests', and 'summary_digests' (IOW, the enum item names for the >>> DeliveryMode enum). > >> They are exposed in mailmanclient and are used in postorius. They can be >> found in the users personal subscription settings >> https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/accounts/mailmansettings/ > > > You are correct. When I checked this before my initial reply, I never > pulled down the Delivery Mode list to see all the options. My bad. > > However, please correct me if I'm wrong, but there does not appear to be > a way in Postorius to set a list's mime_is_default_digest attribute. > You've got that one right. But I don't think core is exposing this through rest. At least it's not exposed via mailmanclient.

9 years, 5 months

Re: Whitelist in mailman3: How to allow only ~400 e-mail senders in a file whitelist to send to a list?

by Mark Sapiro

On 8/3/25 13:52, Wikinaut wrote: > In mailman2, it was quite handy to place "@whitelist" into the field sender/accept_these_nonmembers, when such a file has been set up. > > How can I (per list or programmatically) define the ~400 e-mail senders to be allowed to send to my about 30 lists? > And, yes, I already searched for a solution of this problem, but could not find any. This feature was added in Mailman core 3.3.10. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/NEWS.… https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/794 https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/1154 and documented in postorius 1.3.13. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/589 https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/merge_requests/938 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 months, 2 weeks

Re: nginx configuration on a multitasking server

by David Newman

On 12/22/21 7:29 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/22/21 6:20 PM, David Newman wrote: >> >> Update: The above worked fine until MM3 informed a list owner of >> pending subscription requests, with a URL like this: >> >> https://lists.example.com/mailman/admindb/listname >> >> and that URL returned a 404 error. > > > This looks like a uwsgi issue as discussed at > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… > although that's with apache and not nginx so it may not be. If I'm reading the thread correctly, it's Apache workarounds to an underlying Debian issue, so I agree it may not apply with nginx. > > >> Adding a stanza for 'location /mailman/' to the nginx config above >> clears the 404 error, but Postorius returns "Page not found" with no >> entry in the web or MM3 logs, and a 200 OK in the Nginx logs. >> >> I think the URL is supposed to go to the list page in Postorius. How >> to configure this so that list owners and moderators get a valid URL >> for list management? > > > I'm not sure what the solution is in this case, but a workaround would > be to add > > url(r'^mailman/', include('postorius.urls')), > > to the urlpatterns list in urls.py. There are 260 files named 'urls.py' under /opt/mailman, mostly for socialaccount stuff. Where does that change go? All files? Or just this one: /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/postorius/urls.py Or somewhere else? Thanks again. dn

3 years, 9 months

Re: Another interesting error...

by Darren Smith

OK chalk another one up to a python newbie... commit() was the magic sauce that we needed. The error 500 is no longer happening on that mailing list. We have three different lists so far that have gotten into this state, and we are going to work on the other two to make sure that this all works. FYI if this is fixed somehow in a later release (later than 3.1.0) we are working on migrating to the latest mailman code. -Darren On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 4:20 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 04/23/2018 02:59 PM, Darren Smith wrote: > > Well, using the mailman shell we were able to find the request that was > > causing the problem - it was apparently a spam message that had some > > chinese characters in it. > > > I am trying to duplicate this issue in a test environment. I can create > a message with an invalid RFC 2047 encoded subject, i.e., > > Subject: =?gb2312?Q?=ff=fe=de=21=a2?= > > and send it to a list where it gets held, but I don't get a 500 in > postorius and I see the held message with a raw (not decoded) header. > > I think there were some recent changes that affect this. I'll look some > more. > > > > We used the shell to delete the held request... > > > > And postorius is still giving me an error 500. > > > > If I'm not mistaken the held messages are kept in .pck files - do you > know > > if when postorius asks for held messages through the API, does mailman go > > to the database or to the .pck? I would actually suspect the latter, or > > removing the request should have fixed the problem. > > > They were held in .pck files in Mailman 2.1, but not in Mailman 3. They > should just be in the database and deleting them via mailman shell > should delete them as long as you quit the shell or commit(). > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list > mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >

7 years, 5 months

Re: Postorius not HTML-decoding < to "<" characters

by Ron / BCLUG

Mark Sapiro wrote on 2024-11-09 13:05: > This is a HyperKitty issue. Ah, I see, I thought it'd be on the display process. Does that mean the DB has data with mismatched tags in it? If so, will that require a query to fix? Interestingly, the quoted part of my message has < where my message has proper less-than and greater-than for the Apache tags. https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… It's inconsistent with the archive rendering mode at lists.mailman3.org. I haven't currently got an instance that I can test on but will keep this in mind when the time comes to migrate. Should the rendering at lists.mailman3.org get modified, please share the procedure. Testing: less-than and greater-than around a tag: <Location /mailman/accounts/signup> Testing: less-than and greater-than around a tag in a quoted block: > <Location /mailman/accounts/signup>

11 months, 1 week

Re: Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core.

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/28/20 1:07 PM, joseverde(a)gmail.com wrote: > [Does your systemd script set the user to the Mailman user, and does the > Mailman user have read/write permission on Mailman's var/locks/?] > > How do I check for that? ls -la /path/to/mailman/var/locks > Also, what's the difference between the mailman command and the systemctl mailman3? Are they the same processes? Presumably your mailman3.service actually uses the `mailman start` command to start Mailman. The `mailman` command is a shell with many subcommands for various purposes including starting and stopping Mailman. > Oh and does the /3.1 matter at the end of the Rest url for Django? Do not put the 3.1 at the end of your MAILMAN_REST_API_URL. Postorius adds it. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/blob/master/src/postorius/utils.py#L…>. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 2 months

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