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Re: MM3 on debian - redirect problem

by Gelpi Andrea

Il 28/04/20 18:31, Mark Sapiro ha scritto: > On 4/27/20 8:17 AM, Gelpi Andrea wrote: >> Hi, >> on a debian10 I have mm3 installed via apt-get >> >> apt-get install mailman3-full >> dpkg-reconfigure mailman3 >> dpkg-reconfigure mailman3-web >> >> I have this minor issue >> >> https://webserver/mailman3 redirects to >> http://webserver/mailman/postorius/lists/ >> >> that doesn't exist. >> >> The same problem form django admin page to return to lists >> >> https://website/mailman3/admin/sites/site >> >> In the upper right corner I have a link to https://webserver/mailman3 >> that redirects to https://mailman/postorius/lists/ >> >> I searched for a redirect but without success. > > > The redirection must be a web server issue. > > There is a urls.py file probably in the same directory as your django > settings - probably /usr/share/mailman3-web/urls.py in your case. > > You can make a URL like http://webserver/mailman/postorius/lists/ work > by adding > > url(r'^mailman/postorius/', include('postorius.urls')), > > to the urlpatterns list in the urls.py file. > > The problem seems to be inside the uwsgi proxy. Also django admin web interface has the some problem. I add /mailman in the apache mailman config installed by the debian package. --------------------------------------- Alias /mailman3/favicon.ico /var/lib/mailman3/web/static/postorius/img/favicon.ico Alias /mailman3/static /var/lib/mailman3/web/static <Directory "/var/lib/mailman3/web/static"> Require all granted </Directory> <IfModule mod_proxy_uwsgi.c> ProxyPass /mailman3/favicon.ico ! ProxyPass /mailman3/static ! ProxyPass /mailman3 unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock|uwsgi://localhost/ ProxyPass /mailman unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock|uwsgi://localhost/ </IfModule> ------------------------------------- -- Gelpi ing. Andrea -------------------------------------------------------------- It took the computing power of three C-64s to fly to the Moon. It takes a 486 to run Windows 95. Something is wrong here. --------------------------------------------------------------

6 years, 4 months

Re: Removing the option to delete a list on the Postorious interface

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/14/22 13:43, Wong, Wesley wrote: > Hi, I have a question on the Postorious web interface in Mailman 3. I have found that a list owner can delete a list through the Postorious interface if they have the role of owner to the list. I wanted to have it either disabled or removed but I am not sure where to look to make changes to it. I would rather remove it from the interface totally so it would be done from the command line. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The simplest change would be to edit postorius/templates/postorius/menu/list_nav.html and remove the line. ``` <li role="tab" class="nav-item"><a href="{% url 'list_delete' list.list_id %}" class="{% nav_active_class current 'list_delete' %} nav-link">{% trans 'Delete' %}</a></li> ``` In addition to the above, you could edit postorius/urls.py and remove the line ``` re_path(r'^delete$', list_views.list_delete, name='list_delete'), ``` or in older Postorius versions ``` url(r'^delete$', list_views.list_delete, name='list_delete'), ``` to render the `delete` URL unknown. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 3 months

Re: One-click unsubscribe?

by Jered Floyd

> I'll need to check, but I think we want to add a full configuration > section on Postorius for all the List-* fields (RFCs 2369, 2919, and > now 8058). Besides the options to include the fields and set their > content, there should be options for "Mailman standard" mailto and > http(s) URIs, as well as an option to edit the http(s) URI for folks > who use something other than Postorius. Ugh, I had not considered that RFC 8058 breaks the separation of concerns here. The mail world keeps getting messily dragged into other infrastructure (MTA-STS, anyone?) -- we can at least make this work for Postorius users. Are there many who use just Mailman-Core and not the full suite? > I need to go back and read RFC 8058, but I think that the address > information in the RFC 8058 URI can be completely opaque. I'm not > sure if that's the best approach. The URI path/query is defined as opaque. It probably should be something like list-name/subscribed-address plus a signed hash to avoid unsub-attacks. That means this likely will be a new web application endpoint (although it may be possible to overload the existing "unsubscribe" endpoint -- I haven't looked at the code yet). --Jered

9 months, 3 weeks

Re: cc'd e-mail addresses rewritten with @invalid.domain

by pwilliam＠fredhutch.org

Hi Mailman Users, I've done some more testing with this issue and have determined that this seems to be an issue with how commas within the display name in cc'd messages are being processed with messages sent from the Outlook client. Here are some test scenarios. Note I set the mailing list I was testing with to hold messages in moderation. Once the message was held I copied the information from the headers directly from Postorius held message information into the space below: Test Scenario 1: Display name in Outlook: Williamss, Peterr C Outcome: Does not work as intended. The CC address is formatted as Williamss(a)invalid.domain in messages received by mailing list members, oddly the "Peterr C" part of the display name is not present anywhere in the CC addresses received by mailing list members. Header information from held message in Postorius CC: "os-x-lion(a)lists.test.org" <os-x-lion(a)lists.test.org>, "Williamss, Peterr C" <peterbw(a)test.com> Test Scenario 2: Display name in Outlook: Williams, Peter D Outcome: Does not work as intended. Interestingly, the CC address in the message received by mailing list members is formatted as two separate addresses in this case: Williams(a)invalid.domain and Peter(a)invalid.domain. "D" is not present anywhere. Could this issue be related to the number of characters? Header information from held message in Postorius: CC: "os-x-lion(a)lists.test.org" <os-x-lion(a)lists.test.org>, "Williams, Peter B" <peterbw(a)test.com> Test Scenario 3: Display name in Outlook: Williamss Peterr C Outcome: Works properly. The CC address contains the correct address and display name information. The information in messages received from the mailing list contain the address formatted correctly as: "Williamss Peterr C peterbw(a)test.com" Header information from held message in Postorius: CC: "os-x-lion(a)lists.test.org" <os-x-lion(a)lists.test.org>, Williamss Peterr C <peterbw(a)test.com>

6 years

Mailman, etc. upgrade woes and persistent bugs

by hansen＠rc.org

I just had my Mailman suite upgraded. When it got started, I starting receiving messages that hundreds of subscribers to the lists had been disables, including several of the list moderators. This version started supporting bounce processing, but how in the world was this upgrade allowed to act on bounces that were being collected PRIOR to enabling bounce processing?? I got many angry emails, messages and phone calls asking what was going on, as they were bona fide list members. I was very surprised myself. I then looked at several of the disabled accounts, but the subscription info page in Postorius had no information about whether an account was enabled or disabled. Why is this not displayed???. The members can't see if their account is enabled. Is this another example of the disconnect between Mailman and Postorius? Further, even after the upgrade, the moderators still cannot access the list memberships even though all the lists are set to allow that. I would have asked the moderators to do this if this access bug had been fixed, but they can't get there. As a result of these bugs, after consulting with Brian, who helped with the upgrade, I spent many hours re-enabling the several hundred accounts that had been disabled. I had to go through each email notification to find the address of a disabled account, then find the list, then the member, in Postorius, and finally enable the account (at which time Postorius DID show the enabled status). Please, can the next upgrade include these very basic fixes/enhancements, which I requested a long time ago: a. The ability of moderators to see the list membership (a bug). b. The ability of members to change their addresses for all lists they are subscribed to. and further, now: c. That when members go to look at their subscription info, they can actually see the settings. Thank you, Allan

5 years, 7 months

Re: setup of URLs

by pmlists＠free.fr

> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018, at 12:24 PM, Peter Münster wrote: > This patch should do what you want: > > ``` > index a5ea108..bff54f3 100644 > --- a/example_project/urls.py > +++ b/example_project/urls.py > @@ -25,11 +25,10 @@ try: > except ImportError: > from django.urls import reverse_lazy > from django.views.generic import RedirectView > +from postorius.views.list import list_index > > urlpatterns = [ > - url(r'^$', RedirectView.as_view( > - url=reverse_lazy('list_index'), > - permanent=True)), > + url(r'^$', list_index), > url(r'^postorius/', include('postorius.urls')), Thank you. I've modified the patterns a bit, so that links to the list index, point also to "/": urlpatterns = [ url(r'^postorius/', include('postorius.urls')), url(r'^archive/', include('hyperkitty.urls')), url(r'', include('django_mailman3.urls')), url(r'^accounts/', include('allauth.urls')), url(r'^admin/', include(admin.site.urls)), url(r'^$', list_index, name='list_index'), ] > Just as an FYI, my browser would always re-direct me to /posotrius/lists, even after I > applied this patch, not sure if it was some sort of caching or something else. If it's Firefox, then you can right-click on the site in the history window, and select "Forget about this site". (Strange: I did not get your message by email. For this reply I use the web-interface.) -- Peter

8 years, 7 months

Re: Multi-domain oddities in Hyperkitty and Postorius

by Jeremy Stanley

On 2023-01-30 12:08:10 -0800 (-0800), Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] > Domains can be created via Postorius or via the Mailman Core REST API that > postorius uses or implicitly by the `mailman create` command when creating a > list in a new domain. However, none of this can create a new site. You can > do this through the Django admin site at sites/site/add/. > > See https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/4.1/ref/contrib/sites/ for methods you > can use to do this programmatically. Thanks, I'm still doing my best to wrap my brain around how Django uses database migrations to create sites (seems like a very strange use of a migration, I'm only accustomed to seeing them applied for database schema updates). Once I work out how to script site creation, I'm still not completely finding the explanations I need for how to map them to domains in Mailman though. The Mailman documentation about domains says "Domains are how Mailman interacts with email host names and web host names" but doesn't actually go on to say (that I can find anywhere) how it actually associates them. I can see in the API docs that a POST to the domains endpoint will create a new domain with a specific mail_host FQDN, but there's some association somewhere of that to a web host (Django site), right? How is that set or manipulated through the API? Or is that something which has to be set directly in Django's data structures instead? To recap, on creation of a mailing list server I want to populate it automatically with multiple lists on different domains and have dynamic SITE_ID=0 domain guessing performed so that the correct site name and list filtering is performed depending on which domain name is used in a URL the client requests. I believe I need to have the automation perform the following steps: 1. Instantiate the Mailman installation and run initial migrations with SITE_ID=1 in order to avoid the problem mentioned in the docs about not using SITE_ID=0 until the tables have been populated, then switch the settings.py to use SITE_ID=0 once done. 2. Create the individual sites I need in Django (Mailman web hosts) by creating and applying database migrations. 3. Create the individual domains I need in Mailman (Mailman mail hosts) through its REST API. 4. "Somehow" tell Mailman (or Django?) which mail hosts correspond to what web hosts. As I said, I'm still trying to understand how to make step 2 happen (Django has a steep learning curve for me), but beyond that I'm unsure how to do step 4 at all. I can do all of this through the WebUI of course, and have confirmed that it works as expected when I do, I'm just trying to work out the automation so that our other sysadmins don't have to perform these steps by hand the next time we need to rebuild the server. Thanks again for all the help so far, and for any additional insight anyone may have into how I can correct my mental model of all this. -- Jeremy Stanley

3 years, 7 months

Re: django-mailman3 update causing errors

by Darren Smith

So we have pulled all fresh versions of these projects from gitlab as of last Friday: postorius hyperkitty django-mailman3 mailmanclient Django is version 1.11 When we installed, each of these were placed in a conda virtual environment. Postorius, Hyperkitty, and django-mailman3 are all still under a python 2.7 environment. Is that our problem here? Do they need to be in python 3 now? -Darren On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 3:47 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 05/01/2018 01:35 PM, Darren Smith wrote: > > Hello, > > > > In attempting to update our mailman3/postorius/hyperkitty installation, I > > have run into an error after upgrading the django-mailman3 project. > ... > > Any thoughts on why updating django-mailman3 would cause this? > > > To what version did you update? any 1.2 version is part of the migration > of Postorius/HyperKitty to Python 3 and requires > > postorius>=1.2.0b1 > hyperkitty>=1.2.0a1 > Django>=1.11 > django-mailman3>=1.2.0a2 > mailmanclient>=3.2.0b1 > > and is all Python 3 > > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list > mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >

8 years, 4 months

Re: Mass un/subscribe optimization?

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/28/22 12:12, Bryan Loniewski wrote: > Hi -- > > We've noticed slowness in mass un/subscribing users; looking through the issue(s) log we see both #419 [1] and #627 [2] open and related. From the cmd line we get better performance, but with the subscriber size on many of our Faculty/Staff/Students ad-hoc lists (think 1k-15K subscribed addresses) and with our number of lists (2600) and unique owners utilizing these actions it would be helpful to optimize the mass actions. We wanted to get some thoughts and guidance on what needs to be optimized/redesigned/fixed? Or is there already something in the works, but needs more time? We may be able to provide resources to encourage and/or assist with any development and/or testing... > > We run a split core/web setup with Apache,mod_wsgi and MySQL backend (AWS hosted). > > [1] - https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/419 > [2] - https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/627 Regarding mass removal and #627, that should be fixed as of Postorius 1.3.5. What is your Postorius version. If you want to work on providing a REST endpoint for mass subscribe and supporting it in mailmanclient and Postorius, that would be great. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 6 months

Re: Accept these non-members

by Lars Bjørndal

Thanks! You wrote: > On 3/6/26 02:43, Lars Bjørndal wrote: > > Hi, list! > > > > I have an announce only Mailman3 list. When I log into the web interface > > as an admin user, and go to the specified list, and choose Settings, I find > > the Message Acceptance tab. There, I find the edit field Accept these > > non-members. But this field is empty, although I know that some people > > have permissions and are able to post to this list. How can I find the > > list of these non-members and add more people or delete someone? > > > > I'm running Mailman version 3.3.10, and mailman-web version 4.2.21. > > I don't know what mailman-web version 4.2.21 is. Is this some downstream > package? With `pip list`, some of the packages is: Django 4.2.21 django-mailman3 1.3.15 HyperKitty 1.3.12 mailman 3.3.10 mailman-hyperkitty 1.2.1 mailman-web 0.0.9 mailmanclient 3.3.5 postorius 1.3.13 > These are nonmembers whose moderation action is accept or defer. If your > Postorius is >= 1.3.6, and the number of nonmembers is manageable you can > just view the nonmembers list in Postorius and see their moderation action. You mean from the web interface at example.com/mailman3 > list? > Otherwise a `mailman shell` interaction like > ``` > $ mailman shell -l list.example.com > Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell > Use commit() to commit changes. > Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. > Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. > The variable 'm' is the list.example.com mailing list > >>> for nm in m.nonmembers.members: > ... if nm.moderation_action in (Action.accept, Action.defer): > ... print(f'{nm} {nm.moderation_action}') > ... > >>> > ``` > will print those nonmembers with Action.accept or Action.defer. What's the difference between Action.accept and Action.defer? Thanks

6 months, 2 weeks

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