Search results for "Postorius" - Mailman-users

Re: mailqueue shows bounces for emails that are not on the mailing list

by Paul Ssekamatte

> > If "my-mail-server-IP" is in fact your mail server's IP, then you may > > have a problem: spammers may be using your server as a relay for > > spoofed emails. > > It is also possible, or even likely that these are the result of bad > actors maliciously requesting subscriptions for 3rd parties. Since this > is a 421 status, these mails should remain queued in your mail server > for a while and can be examined[1]. If this is the case, you may be able > to mitigate this by setting > SHOW_ANONYMOUS_SUBSCRIBE_FORM = False > in your Django settings. See > https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html#news-1-3-9 > [1] For example if your MTA is Postfix > postcat /var/spool/deferred/4/4d08rT4xMHzMCD6S > and if that shows a subscription or email verification request > postsuper -d 4d08rT4xMHzMCD6S > to delete it so it isn't retried. > -- this is most likely the case. I tried adding the setting in Django as suggested but it doesnot seem to work. I see the documentation is for Postorius 1.3.9 but my version is 1.3.8 I suppose I need to upgrade Postorius

4 months, 2 weeks

Mailman backend maintenance task

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Hi, Eugenio, I wrote this earlier but am in the middle of moving my office so my mail has been intermittent. I have been following your discussion with Abhilash, and he's definitely the expert, especially if you are using the containers he creates and distributes. But there's some information here he hasn't mentioned yet. Please consider the following discussion to be background that allows you to understand some of the considerations. I've only run the Mailman 3 suite with all three running constantly on the same host, so I have no experience with this kind of issue. eugenio.jordan(a)esa.int writes: > Our customer is currently using PostGRESQL as backend, and we would > like to perform some maintenance tasks, namely running vacuum full, > or at least trying to rebuild hyperkitty_email primary key related > index. We have been asked on the real impact of putting in place > such initiative. Though the latter is related to archiving, I > haven't found a way to stop just Hyperkitty or Django related > processes other than stopping Mailman's core, hence preventing > mails addressed to distribution lists from being delivered, could > you please confirm if I am correct? Mailman core can certainly run without either Postorius or HyperKitty. Controlling Mailman core (moderation, helping users) without Postorius is annoying, but it can be done. If you stop the HyperKitty process, what should happen, I believe, is that posts for archiving will accumulate in the 'archive' queue until HyperKitty is available again. It's been a while since I studied this so I could be completely wrong, but as I understand it HyperKitty and Postorius are not daemon processes. Rather, they are WSGI applications, which means they are subprocesses spawned by your webserver, and controlled by it. In order to keep them from running, you would reconfigure the webserver to not call those WSGI applications. How that is done is specific to the webserver and the WSGI module. If you are running from Docker containers, most likely, you can just stop their containers. The larger problem is that Mailman core uses a RDBMS. Normally both Django and Mailman are referring to the same RDBMS, PostgreSQL in your case. I'm not familiar with the vaccuum operation; if it requires taking the whole RDBMS down, and Mailman is running on that RDBMS, you're out of luck. Mailman can accept posts and queue them, but it can't deliver them to subscribers without access to the RDBMS tables. If it's just a matter of locking some tables while other are available, then it should work because the tables used by core and HyperKitty are disjoint as far as I know. (I think Postorius and HyperKitty both use Django's user tables for authorization, so at least for those tables both Postorius and HyperKitty will have to be down, but core can continue running because its database is completely separate.) > Regarding the former, as far as I have read, the "mappings" lists > -> addresses are stored just in the database, so if we run some > kind of procedure or task like vacuum which will lock exclusively > tables, or want anyway to have the database stopped for a cold > backup or whatever, Mailman willl not work, that is, again the > mails addressed to the distribution lists will not be > delivered. Will you please confirm this point, too? That depends on how "vacuum" works. If you can tell the RDBMS not to lock Mailman core's tables, it can continue to run. Definitely if the database is not running, Mailman will continue to receive and store the posts, but it won't be able to distribute mail to subscribers until its tables are available again. At that point the queued posts will be processed normally, except that if there's a large backlog, they won't go out in a quick burst, it may take a while. One possible worry, depending on how you are connected to the Internet, is that your provider may interpret the sudden burst of outgoing mail when Mailman comes back on line as spam or some other sort of mischief. Mailman has no way to throttle this: it feeds messages to the MTA until the MTA says "stop". Then it waits until the MTA is ready again. Regards, Steve

4 years, 6 months

Re: Where should Postfix, Django, Hyperkitty, Postorius, Dart-Sass, etc. be installed if MM3 is in a python virtual environment?

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/24/24 7:41 PM, Keith Christian wrote: > > mailman3 was installed into the below virtual environment: > (venv) [mailman3@localhost-live ~]$ pip install wheel mailman psycopg2-binary > Should, or must, any of Django, Hyperkitty, Postorius, Dart-Sass, or > any other supporting programs be installed into this virtual > environment ? If you follow the doc at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html you will install Mailman core, psycopg2-binary, mailman-web and mailman-hyperkitty in the venv. mailman-web will install Django, django-mailman3, MailmanClient, HyperKitty and Postorius as dependencies in the venv. > PostgreSQL and Postfix have been successfully installed outside of the > mailman3 virtual environment and start properly, I assume this is > correct. Since these are not python packages, they and sassc (or Dart-Sass) are installed outside the venv. Also, Postfix in particular and possibly PostgreSQL may be used by things other than Mailman so you don't want them in the venv even if they could be installed there. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 9 months

Re: Starting new thread in Postorius -> disappears

by Cameron Smith

I would suggest that there is something very broken here: there seems to be a problem with communication between the email system (mailman core…?) and HyperKitty. On November 21, I sent the message below, as a part of this very thread, to Thor and cc’d the mailman 3 list. But the message never showed up in HyperKitty [1]. I don’t know if other list members received it in their email inboxes or not. Thor obviously received the message (it was addressed to him directly), because he referenced it in a message that is in the archives [1]. However, I never received an email copy of his message from the list. So, what’s going on? What baffles me is that more people are not complaining about this. Is it just that no one has noticed? Or is it some subtle misconfiguration in my system? And in Thor’s apparently. And maybe in the lists.mailman3.org system as well. [1] https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… > On 2017.11.21, at 06:31 , Cameron Smith <ccsmith(a)mail2.cetsi.com> wrote: > > Thor, > > I, too, have been struggling with messages not showing up [1], although the conditions are somewhat different. > > What I have found works to make all of the messages appear is the following, which you might try: > > sudo docker-compose exec mailman-web ./manage.py runjobs yearly > > > [1] https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… > > > >> On 2017.11.21, at 04:41 , Thor Atle Rustad <thor.rustad(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> When I send a message from the Postorius interface, it is neither sent >>> out >>>> or stored. I briefly see this message: "Your reply has been sent and is >>>> being processed.", and then nothing happens. Cameron Smith Nanaimo, BC tel:1.604.803.0051

8 years, 3 months

Re: More Mailman releases!

by Jered Floyd

Everything looks good to me in my multi-site install! I've updated my simple container install to pin the new versions: https://github.com/jeredfloyd/mailman-container --Jered ----- On Oct 22, 2023, at 2:10 AM, Abhilash Raj maxking(a)asynchronous.in wrote: > Hello, > > I missed one important merge request in django-mailman3, so here are a > couple more versions. > > I've released Django-mailman3 1.3.11 and Mailman-web 0.0.8 (which > requires django-mailman >= 1.3.11). > > Gitlab releases are available here: > > Mailman-web: https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-web/-/releases/0.0.8 > Django-mailman3: > https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/releases/v1.3.11 > > I have also yanked mailman-web 0.0.7 since that'll cause spurious errors > due to change in session serializer. > > Abhilash > > > On 10/22/23 00:05, Abhilash Raj wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I am pleased to announce several new releases for GNU Mailman project. >> Thanks to all the contributors for making these releases possible! >> >> 1. Postorius 1.3.10 [1] >> 2. Hyperkitty 1.3.8 [2] >> 3. Django-mailman3 1.3.10 [3] >> 4. Mailman-web 0.0.7 [4] >> >> All the releases are published to PyPI and you can find links to all the >> PyPI projects: >> >> https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/ >> >> A full list of change logs are available below: >> >> [1]: >> https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html#news-1-3-10 >> [2]: >> https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/hyperkitty/en/latest/news.html#news-1-3-8 >> [3]: https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/blob/master/README.rst >> [4]: https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-web/-/blob/master/README.rst >> >> Do note that for Postorius, I released 1.3.9, but I forgot to update >> dependency metadata to require `django-mailman3>=1.3.10` (which is >> required for the new bootstrap 5 upgrade across packages) and so I also >> released Postorius 1.3.10 just after. >> >> Installation documentation is available at >> >> https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/install.html >> >> and if you are upgrading an existing virtualenv install you can refer >> >> https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/upgrade-3.2.html >> >> If you find any issues, you can report them at the respective bug >> tracker for the projects. The links to issue trackers are available >> at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/. >> >> Finally, similar to Mailman Core, note that PyPI doesn't accept >> signatures anymore so each packages' release page now has the tarball >> uploaded to them along with the signature: >> >> Django-mailman3: >> https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/-/releases/v1.3.10 >> Hyperkitty: https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/releases/v1.3.8 >> Postorius: https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/releases/v1.3.10 >> Mailman-web: https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-web/-/releases/0.0.7 >> > > -- > thanks, > Abhilash Raj (maxking) > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to jered(a)convivian.com

2 years, 4 months

Re: Removing the option to delete a list on the Postorious interface

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/14/22 13:43, Wong, Wesley wrote: > Hi, I have a question on the Postorious web interface in Mailman 3. I have found that a list owner can delete a list through the Postorious interface if they have the role of owner to the list. I wanted to have it either disabled or removed but I am not sure where to look to make changes to it. I would rather remove it from the interface totally so it would be done from the command line. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The simplest change would be to edit postorius/templates/postorius/menu/list_nav.html and remove the line. ``` <li role="tab" class="nav-item"><a href="{% url 'list_delete' list.list_id %}" class="{% nav_active_class current 'list_delete' %} nav-link">{% trans 'Delete' %}</a></li> ``` In addition to the above, you could edit postorius/urls.py and remove the line ``` re_path(r'^delete$', list_views.list_delete, name='list_delete'), ``` or in older Postorius versions ``` url(r'^delete$', list_views.list_delete, name='list_delete'), ``` to render the `delete` URL unknown. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 9 months

Re: One-click unsubscribe?

by Jered Floyd

> I'll need to check, but I think we want to add a full configuration > section on Postorius for all the List-* fields (RFCs 2369, 2919, and > now 8058). Besides the options to include the fields and set their > content, there should be options for "Mailman standard" mailto and > http(s) URIs, as well as an option to edit the http(s) URI for folks > who use something other than Postorius. Ugh, I had not considered that RFC 8058 breaks the separation of concerns here. The mail world keeps getting messily dragged into other infrastructure (MTA-STS, anyone?) -- we can at least make this work for Postorius users. Are there many who use just Mailman-Core and not the full suite? > I need to go back and read RFC 8058, but I think that the address > information in the RFC 8058 URI can be completely opaque. I'm not > sure if that's the best approach. The URI path/query is defined as opaque. It probably should be something like list-name/subscribed-address plus a signed hash to avoid unsub-attacks. That means this likely will be a new web application endpoint (although it may be possible to overload the existing "unsubscribe" endpoint -- I haven't looked at the code yet). --Jered

3 months, 2 weeks

Re: setup of URLs

by pmlists＠free.fr

> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018, at 12:24 PM, Peter Münster wrote: > This patch should do what you want: > > ``` > index a5ea108..bff54f3 100644 > --- a/example_project/urls.py > +++ b/example_project/urls.py > @@ -25,11 +25,10 @@ try: > except ImportError: > from django.urls import reverse_lazy > from django.views.generic import RedirectView > +from postorius.views.list import list_index > > urlpatterns = [ > - url(r'^$', RedirectView.as_view( > - url=reverse_lazy('list_index'), > - permanent=True)), > + url(r'^$', list_index), > url(r'^postorius/', include('postorius.urls')), Thank you. I've modified the patterns a bit, so that links to the list index, point also to "/": urlpatterns = [ url(r'^postorius/', include('postorius.urls')), url(r'^archive/', include('hyperkitty.urls')), url(r'', include('django_mailman3.urls')), url(r'^accounts/', include('allauth.urls')), url(r'^admin/', include(admin.site.urls)), url(r'^$', list_index, name='list_index'), ] > Just as an FYI, my browser would always re-direct me to /posotrius/lists, even after I > applied this patch, not sure if it was some sort of caching or something else. If it's Firefox, then you can right-click on the site in the history window, and select "Forget about this site". (Strange: I did not get your message by email. For this reply I use the web-interface.) -- Peter

8 years, 1 month

Re: Struggle on upgrading mailman3-web to new version - Not Found: /mailman//

by Stefan Bauer

Hi Eggert, thank you for your input. Unfortunately that did not work. After changing the line ProxyPass /mailman3 unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock|uwsgi://localhost/ to ProxyPass /mailman unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock|uwsgi://localhost/ and restarted apache2, still a similar behavior when accessing https://my.mailinglistserver.local/mailman/postorius/lists/ Page not found (404) Request Method: GET Request URL: https://mmy.mailinglistserver.local/mailma//postorius/lists/ What i find strange is that the URL is mangled. The 'n' from mailman is missing and now there is a second slash. This all must happen inside the uwsgi-container as my request is modified. Not Found: /mailma// [pid: 1346851|app: 0|req: 28/28] 10.254.253.13 () {52 vars in 827 bytes} [Mon Oct 25 17:47:21 2021] HEAD /mailman/ => generated 2773 bytes in 4 msecs (HTTP/1.1 404) 5 headers in 155 bytes (1 switches on core 1) Am Mo., 25. Okt. 2021 um 17:19 Uhr schrieb Eggert Ehmke via Mailman-users < mailman-users(a)mailman3.org>: > Hello Stefan, > > I had the same problem. While I did not find the reason for this strange > behavior, I found a workaround. I changed the lines in the apache vhost > file > like this: > > <IfModule mod_proxy_uwsgi.c> > ProxyPass /mailman3/favicon.ico ! > ProxyPass /mailman3/static ! > ProxyPass /mailman unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock|uwsgi://localhost/ > </IfModule> > > Note I only changed the single ProxyPass line from mailman3 to mailman. > The > url to access the web gui also changes like this: > > https://my.mailinglistserver.local/mailman/postorius/lists/ > > This works for me, tell us your success. Would be nice when the problem > could > be solved finally, this happened to a few people. > > Cheers, Eggert > > Am Montag, 25. Oktober 2021, 10:45:50 CEST schrieb Stefan Bauer: > > Dear Users, > > > > I recently upraded mailman3 from Ubuntu 18 to 20. After accessing the > > web-interface via > > > > https://my.mailinglistserver.local/mailman3/postorius/lists/ > > > > I receive > > > > Not Found: /mailman//postorius/lists/ > > [pid: 1346851|app: 0|req: 4/4] 10.254.253.12 () {70 vars in 1369 bytes} > > [Mon Oct 25 10:39:59 2021] GET /mailman3/postorius/lists/ => generated > 2821 > > bytes in 12 msecs (HTTP/1.1 404) 5 headers in 155 bytes (1 switches on > core > > 1) > > > > Where does the wrong path come from (mailman vs. mailman3) > > > > After enabling Debug, i see in the browser the following: > > > > > > Page not found (404) > > Request Method: GET > > Request URL: > https://my.mailinglistserver.local/mailman//postorius/lists/ > > > > Using the URLconf defined in urls, Django tried these URL patterns, in > this > > order: > > > > ^$ > > ^postorius/ > > ^hyperkitty/ > > ^user-profile/delete$ [name='mm_user_account_delete'] > > ^user-profile/$ [name='mm_user_profile'] > > ^accounts/ > > ^admin/ > > > > The current path, /postorius/lists/, didn't match any of these. > > > > You're seeing this error because you have DEBUG = True in your Django > > settings file. Change that to False, and Django will display a standard > 404 > > page. > > > > My apache configuration is very simply: > > > > # more /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/mailman3.conf > > Alias /mailman3/favicon.ico > > /var/lib/mailman3/web/static/postorius/img/favicon.ico > > Alias /mailman3/static /var/lib/mailman3/web/static > > > > <Directory "/var/lib/mailman3/web/static"> > > Require all granted > > </Directory> > > > > <IfModule mod_proxy_uwsgi.c> > > ProxyPass /mailman3/favicon.ico ! > > ProxyPass /mailman3/static ! > > ProxyPass /mailman3 unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock|uwsgi://localhost/ > > </IfModule> > > > > I dont see where the path gets traversed in the wrong way. Any help is > > greatly appreciated. > > > > thank you. > > > > Stefan > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >

4 years, 4 months

Re: MM3 on debian - redirect problem

by Gelpi Andrea

Il 28/04/20 18:31, Mark Sapiro ha scritto: > On 4/27/20 8:17 AM, Gelpi Andrea wrote: >> Hi, >> on a debian10 I have mm3 installed via apt-get >> >> apt-get install mailman3-full >> dpkg-reconfigure mailman3 >> dpkg-reconfigure mailman3-web >> >> I have this minor issue >> >> https://webserver/mailman3 redirects to >> http://webserver/mailman/postorius/lists/ >> >> that doesn't exist. >> >> The same problem form django admin page to return to lists >> >> https://website/mailman3/admin/sites/site >> >> In the upper right corner I have a link to https://webserver/mailman3 >> that redirects to https://mailman/postorius/lists/ >> >> I searched for a redirect but without success. > > > The redirection must be a web server issue. > > There is a urls.py file probably in the same directory as your django > settings - probably /usr/share/mailman3-web/urls.py in your case. > > You can make a URL like http://webserver/mailman/postorius/lists/ work > by adding > > url(r'^mailman/postorius/', include('postorius.urls')), > > to the urlpatterns list in the urls.py file. > > The problem seems to be inside the uwsgi proxy. Also django admin web interface has the some problem. I add /mailman in the apache mailman config installed by the debian package. --------------------------------------- Alias /mailman3/favicon.ico /var/lib/mailman3/web/static/postorius/img/favicon.ico Alias /mailman3/static /var/lib/mailman3/web/static <Directory "/var/lib/mailman3/web/static"> Require all granted </Directory> <IfModule mod_proxy_uwsgi.c> ProxyPass /mailman3/favicon.ico ! ProxyPass /mailman3/static ! ProxyPass /mailman3 unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock|uwsgi://localhost/ ProxyPass /mailman unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock|uwsgi://localhost/ </IfModule> ------------------------------------- -- Gelpi ing. Andrea -------------------------------------------------------------- It took the computing power of three C-64s to fly to the Moon. It takes a 486 to run Windows 95. Something is wrong here. --------------------------------------------------------------

5 years, 10 months

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