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Re: Implicit destination

by Mark Sapiro

On 08/26/2018 12:54 PM, David Krantz wrote: > > I have a spam-problem like anyone else. Most of the spam my listserver > receives has some kind of impilict destination so the implicit rule > catches most of the spam that way. This is fine. What is not so fine, > however, is that this results in a moderation message to the sender. > I'd like to stop that so that the spammer has no confirmation that the > mail was received. That is not the issue. Sending the held message notice to a spammer, if it reaches the spammer, is probably inconsequential. The issue is that virtually always in spam the sender address is either undeliverable or is the address of an innocent 3rd party. Sending these notices to innocent 3rd parties is called backscatter and is a bad thing. To avoid this backscatter, you can set the list's respond_to_post_requests attribute to False. There are two problems here. One is this setting is not currently exposed in Postorius, and the other is this will also stop desired held message notices such as those from list members. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

8 years

Re: Advice

by Jerry Koutavas

Apologizes if there is a better list to post this request to - thank you From: jkoutavas(a)ascii.com [mailto:jkoutavas@ascii.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 8:33 PM To: mailman-users(a)mailman3.org Subject: [MM3-users] Advice We are seeking a consultant to help migrate us from Mailman 2.1.9 to 3 > Mailing list (Core + Postorius) + web-forum (Hyperkitty). Any recommendations is appreciated - Jerry _______________________________________________ Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org<mailto:mailman-users@mailman3.org> To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org<mailto:mailman-users-leave@mailman3.org> https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ ________________________________ Total Control Panel Login<https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=ascii.com> To: jk(a)ascii.com<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=10188568&domain=ascii.com> From: mailman-users-bounces+jk=ascii.com(a)mailman3.org<mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jk=ascii.com@mailman3.org> Message Score: 50 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: Medium Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&bl-sender-address=1&hID=395558…> this sender / Block<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&ent=1&bl-sender-address=1&hID=…> this sender enterprise-wide Block<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&bl-sender-domain=1&hID=3955588…> mailman3.org / Block<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&ent=1&bl-sender-domain=1&hID=3…> mailman3.org enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level.

6 years, 9 months

Re: Remove ALL Members button - was: Re: Setting base_url for the domain to use it in the templates.

by Odhiambo Washington

On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 6:28 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 7/10/24 10:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > > > > I find the unsubscribe_all button quite scary! I have never used it > though, > > so I am not quite sure about its behavior. What scares me > > is the possibility of clicking it and then in one fell swoop you've > removed > > ALL the members without a "confirmation". > > See the thread at > > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… > and the issue at https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/545. > > Bottom line - there is a confirmation. Try it, perhaps on a test list if > you're really scared. > Will do that test :) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

2 years, 2 months

Re: MM3 Docker

by Odhiambo Washington

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 20:34 Abhilash Raj <maxking(a)asynchronous.in wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, at 5:52 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 03:29, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > > > > > On 1/7/19 1:18 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 at 23:39, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Please help me understand what steps are missing and I will try to > > > >> provide the information. > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay. > > > > > > > > At the installation stage, you say the following: > > > > "I already had some things set up in /opt/mailman including a git > > > > subdirectory containing clones of the GitLab mailman, mailmanclient, > > > > mailman-hyperkitty, hyperkitty, django-mailman3 and > > > > postorius projects. On the third server I have added mailman-suite > > > > because I use the settings.py from that project as the basis for > mine." > > > > > > > > Please assume that the reader is a newbie to python3 virtualenv and > give > > > the > > > > details of the commands they need to execute to (a) clone all the > > > projects > > > > needed > > > > and (b) create the virtualenv. > > > > > > > > The next steps are: > > > > mkdir /opt/mailman/mm > > > > > > > > Then you say "I then created a /opt/mailman/mm directory and within > that > > > a > > > > Python 3.6 virtualenv" > > > > What happens here is something that needs clarification, because you > are > > > > specific about "python3.6". > > > > I have googled and realized that one has to be specific about the > python > > > > version they want to use in their virtualenv > > > > as shown here -> > > > > > > > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45293436/how-to-specify-python-version-… > > > > > > > > exact command to execute to create the /opt/mailman/mm/venv > > > > exact command to execute to activate virtualenv > > > > > > > > > I have added a comment to the page which I hope gives you what you > want. > > > > > > I also added a section on templates instead of referring to a prior > > > version of the page. > > > > > > > That makes it better. > > However, as a newbie, something is not yet clear: > > > > "When active in a particular shell, it can be deactivated with the > command > > > > deactivate > > or by exiting that shell." > > > > HI am trying to understand the effect of detaching from a venv. I am > > assuming that a virtualenv is a container that is supposed to be always > > active for the services within to be accessible. Is that right? So, how > do > > I ensure it's always running/up, or that does not matter as the scripts > > which run the services will always refer to the files? > > virtualenv is not actually a container that is supposed to be active. It > is merely a set of settings that are applied to your SHELL when you are > in the virtual environment. > > It is not supposed to be always active, only when you actually want to > run commands in that virtual environment. The services will keep on > running after you deactivate your shell and would function like other > normal services on your machine. > > -- > thanks, > Abhilash Raj (maxking) > Thank you for clarifying. So once I have a venv created, the services will just run as long as the startup scripts are running even when I'm logged out of the system? >

7 years, 8 months

Mailman issues after re-boot

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Paul Rubin writes: > 'list_unsubscription_requests' not found. > ungettextImportError: cannot import name 'ungettext' from > 'django.utils.translation' > self._stream:Sep 12 10:06:31 mail mailman[31159]: AttributeError: > 'ReopenableFileHandler' object has no attribute '_stream'Sep 12 > Please tell me where to start looking or adjusting. At this point it's not a matter of "adjusting". There are too many errors in too many unrelated places: Mailman, Postorius, and Django. It appears your Mailman installation has been quite corrupted. My guess is in the process of recovering the host you applied OS upgrades to Python and/or reinstalled Mailman components, and the versions are now very much out of sync. Another possibility is that files were corrupted by the crash. As Odhiambo Washington suggests in a parallel post, your best bet is to preserve your configuration files, Postgresql databases, and queue files (if any), wipe your Mailman installation and reinstall from scratch. I'd back up the Postgres database, of course, but Mailman should just "reattach" to it, applying any migrations automatically. I forget whether you need to run "mailman-web migrate" for Django but I'm pretty sure it's idempotent (you did back up Postgres, right?) Steve

3 years

Re: Held for notification - runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode character

by Seth Seeger

> On Jan 2, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > > Thanks for sending me the shunted .pck. It turns out I didn't need it. Had I looked more closely at the Traceback, I would have realized that the issue is that the list's list:admin:action:post template contains non-ascii. In particular, the character in position 5 is ’ which is a unicode right_single_quote, not an ascii apostrophe. > > There may be other unicode fancy quotes ad well. > > You can fix the template to contain only ascii or you can set the character set for English to utf-8 by adding > ``` > [language.en] > charset: utf-8 > ``` > to mailman.cfg. The downside of the latter is that outgoing message bodies will always be base64 encoded which generally precludes grepping mailboxes to find things. Ah hah! Right you are. I removed the offending fancy apostrophe. What about that traceback pointed to the template? (Is it something I could have figured out?) Is it possible to filter out UTF-8 chars from the templates when they are saved in Postorius? Thanks again, Seth

4 years, 8 months

Internal Server Error: /mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive

by Mail Person

Hello everyone. I am trying to sort out an error happening when messages are sent to the mailman server. The emails are being sent to the list but I get this error each time: Internal Server Error: /mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive OperationalError at /hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive (1366, "Incorrect string value: '\\xF0\\x9F\\x90\\xBA\\x0A\\x0A...' for column 'content' at row 1") Request Method: POST Request URL: http://localhost/mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive?key=7OF5IogiQItSUK… Django Version: 2.2.12 Python Executable: /usr/bin/uwsgi-core Python Version: 3.8.10 Python Path: ['.', '', '/usr/lib/python38.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.8', '/usr/lib/python3.8/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages'] Server time: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 17:13:09 +0000 Installed Applications: ('hyperkitty', 'postorius', 'django_mailman3', 'django.contrib.admin', 'django.contrib.auth', 'django.contrib.contenttypes', 'django.contrib.sessions', 'django.contrib.sites', 'django.contrib.messages', 'django.contrib.staticfiles', 'rest_framework', 'django_gravatar', 'compressor', 'haystack', 'django_extensions', 'django_q', 'allauth', 'allauth.account', 'allauth.socialaccount', 'django_mailman3.lib.auth.fedora') Installed Middleware: ('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware', 'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware', 'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware', 'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware', 'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware', 'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware', 'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware', 'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware', 'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware', 'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware') Traceback: File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/utils.py" in _execute 84. return self.cursor.execute(sql, params) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/mysql/base.py" in execute 71. return self.cursor.execute(query, args) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in execute 209. res = self._query(query) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in _query 315. db.query(q) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py" in query 226. _mysql.connection.query(self, query) The above exception ((1366, "Incorrect string value: '\\xF0\\x9F\\x90\\xBA\\x0A\\x0A...' for column 'content' at row 1")) was the direct cause of the following exception: File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py" in inner 34. response = get_response(request) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in _get_response 115. response = self.process_exception_by_middleware(e, request) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in _get_response 113. response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/views/decorators/http.py" in inner 40. return func(request, *args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/views/mailman.py" in _decorator 71. return func(request, *args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/views/decorators/csrf.py" in wrapped_view 54. return view_func(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/views/mailman.py" in archive 117. add_to_list(mlist_fqdn, msg) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/lib/incoming.py" in add_to_list 153. email.save() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/base.py" in save 740. self.save_base(using=using, force_insert=force_insert, File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/base.py" in save_base 777. updated = self._save_table( File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/base.py" in _save_table 870. result = self._do_insert(cls._base_manager, using, fields, update_pk, raw) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/base.py" in _do_insert 907. return manager._insert([self], fields=fields, return_id=update_pk, File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/manager.py" in manager_method 82. return getattr(self.get_queryset(), name)(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/query.py" in _insert 1186. return query.get_compiler(using=using).execute_sql(return_id) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/sql/compiler.py" in execute_sql 1375. cursor.execute(sql, params) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/utils.py" in execute 67. return self._execute_with_wrappers(sql, params, many=False, executor=self._execute) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/utils.py" in _execute_with_wrappers 76. return executor(sql, params, many, context) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/utils.py" in _execute 84. return self.cursor.execute(sql, params) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/utils.py" in __exit__ 89. raise dj_exc_value.with_traceback(traceback) from exc_value File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/utils.py" in _execute 84. return self.cursor.execute(sql, params) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/mysql/base.py" in execute 71. return self.cursor.execute(query, args) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in execute 209. res = self._query(query) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in _query 315. db.query(q) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py" in query 226. _mysql.connection.query(self, query) Exception Type: OperationalError at /hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive Exception Value: (1366, "Incorrect string value: '\\xF0\\x9F\\x90\\xBA\\x0A\\x0A...' for column 'content' at row 1") Request information: USER: AnonymousUser

3 years

Re: urls.py location on venv install

by Torsten

Am 2026-08-10 01:41, schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 8/9/26 09:08, Torsten wrote: >> >> In fact, my settings.py does contain these import lines: >> >> import os > > This should not be needed unless something further down references os. > I have removed this line (s. other mail where Odhiambo suggested to take the config from the documentation and adjust it) >> from mailman_web.settings.base import * >> from mailman_web.settings.mailman import * >> >> BASE_DIR = ('/var/lib/mailman3/web') >> >> SECRET_KEY = '<MYSECRETKEY>' >> DEBUG = False >> >> #: Default list of admins who receive the emails from error logging. >> ADMINS = ( ('Mailman Suite Admin', 'torsten(a)bbadmin.de'),) >> >> ALLOWED_HOSTS = ['localhost', '127.0.0.1',] > > You may also want your public facing web domain here. > They are there, I have just omitted them here. >> INSTALLED_APPS = [ >> 'django_mailman3', >> 'postorius', >> 'hyperkitty', >> # Uncomment the next line to enable the admin: >> 'django.contrib.admin', > > > I'm hoping there's more to this file, but in any case unless you're > adding or deleting something from the definition in > mailman-web/settings/base.py, this is redundant and if you are adding, > it's better to do > ``` > INSTALLED_APPS.append('app.to.add') > ``` > or to remove something, for example > ``` > del INSTALLED_APPS[INSTALLED_APPS.index(django.contrib.admin')] > ``` > Yes, there's more in this config and also more in INSTALLED_APPS. >> And I have the mailman_web/urls.py in the venv where mailman was >> installed. > > If you are using gunicorn as your wsgi server, I think there is an > issue in the documentation. > <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setting-up-guni…> > says etc/mailman3/gunicorn.conf should contain `chdir = > "/opt/mailman/mm"`. I think this is wrong. It should be `chdir = > "/etc/mailman3"`. I am using uwsgi. Here's the complete settings.py, I have in /etc/mailman3 now: # Mailman Web configuration file. # /etc/mailman3/settings.py # Get the default settings. from mailman_web.settings.base import * from mailman_web.settings.mailman import * # Settings below supplement or override the defaults. #: Default list of admins who receive the emails from error logging. ADMINS = ( ('Mailman Suite Admin', 'torsten(a)bbadmin.de'), ) DATABASES = { 'default': { 'ENGINE': 'django.db.backends.sqlite3', 'NAME': '/var/lib/mailman3/web/mailman3web.db', 'USER': '', 'PASSWORD': '', 'HOST': '', 'PORT': '', } } # 'collectstatic' command will copy all the static files here. # Alias this location from your webserver to `/static` STATIC_ROOT = '/var/lib/mailman3/web/static' # enable the 'compress' command. COMPRESS_ENABLED = True # Make sure that this directory is created or Django will fail on start. LOGGING['handlers']['file']['filename'] = '/var/log/mailman3/web/mailmanweb.log' #: See https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/settings/#allowed-hosts ALLOWED_HOSTS = [ "localhost", # Archiving API from Mailman, keep it. "127.0.0.1", "mail.<MYDOMAIN1>", "<MYDOMAIN1>", "<MYDOMAIN2>", # "lists.your-domain.org", # Add here all production domains you have. ] #: See https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/settings/#csrf-trusted-origins #: For Django <4.0 these are of the form 'lists.example.com' or #: '.example.com' to include subdomains and for Django >=4.0 they include #: the scheme as in 'https://lists.example.com' or 'https://*.example.com'. CSRF_TRUSTED_ORIGINS = [ # "lists.your-domain.org", "https://*.<MYDOMAIN1>", "https://*.<MYDOMAIN2>", # Add here all production domains you have. ] #: Current Django Site being served. This is used to customize the web host #: being used to serve the current website. For more details about Django #: site, see: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/sites/ SITE_ID = 1 # Set this to a new secret value. SECRET_KEY = '<MYSECRETKEY>' # Set this to match the api_key setting in # /opt/mailman/mm/mailman-hyperkitty.cfg (quoted here, not there). MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY = '<ANOTHERSECRETKEY>' # The sender of emails from Django such as address confirmation requests. # Set this to a valid email address. EMAILNAME = '<MYDOMAIN1>' DEFAULT_FROM_EMAIL = 'postorius@{}'.format(EMAILNAME) # The sender of error messages from Django. Set this to a valid email # address. SERVER_EMAIL = 'root@{}'.format(EMAILNAME)

1 month

Today no question, but my toolbox: set "global" user preferences; list or delete held messages

by Wikinaut

After some (sorry for bothering you) questions here, I was able to set up a mailman3 system which I regard as perfect for my use. Perhaps, you had similar problems with your installation, especially when coming from mailman2 and, like me, from majordomo...... I collected a lot of information which was presented in this mailling list archive here and also answers of my questions (thanks Mark and others) News: https://github.com/Wikinaut/mailman3-tools has all of these tools. README says: Scripts for maintenance or setting-up of modern mailman3 instances set preferences for all users list held messages delete held messages older n days My setting is strictly as described in the documentation: mailman3 + postorius/hyperkitty are installed via pip in an (venv) /opt/mailman/ My user scripts and a huge mailing list generator (not published here) are in a directory apart from that: user maillistgen home directory /home/maillistgen user maillistgen has some sudo rights set uo in /etc/sudoers a wrapper script is /home/maillistgen/run_mailman.sh which sets the correct path for Python, mailman3 and the (venv). I hope, you like my tiny part of contribution and attribution back to Mark.

1 year

Today no question, but my toolbox: set "global" user preferences; list or delete held messages

by Wikinaut

After some (sorry for bothering you) questions here, I was able to set up a mailman3 system which I regard as perfect for my use. Perhaps, you had similar problems with your installation, especially when coming from mailman2 and, like me, from majordomo...... I collected a lot of information which was presented in this mailling list archive here and also answers of my questions (thanks Mark and others) News: https://github.com/Wikinaut/mailman3-tools has all of these tools. README says: Scripts for maintenance or setting-up of modern mailman3 instances set preferences for all users list held messages delete held messages older n days My setting is strictly as described in the documentation: mailman3 + postorius/hyperkitty are installed via pip in an (venv) /opt/mailman/ My user scripts and a huge mailing list generator (not published here) are in a directory apart from that: user maillistgen home directory /home/maillistgen user maillistgen has some sudo rights set uo in /etc/sudoers a wrapper script is /home/maillistgen/run_mailman.sh which sets the correct path for Python, mailman3 and the (venv). I hope, you like my tiny part of contribution and attribution back to Mark.

1 year

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