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Healthchecks and Django

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Philip Colmer writes: > For the MM3 servers, we're probing "/mailman3/lists/". You could create a path in urls.py called "250" that does nothing but respond with a 250 status (and maybe a hello-world page). The issue with /mailman3/lists/ is that it queries core for the lists (which, if successful, proves that core is up as a side effect). > Is there another URL we could use to check the health of a MM3 server What does this mean to you? Our Mailman 3 suite consists of three applications, core, Postorius, and HyperKitty, which might or might not be installed, and if installed might or might not be running on the same host. Core in turn depends on the MTA and starts a bunch of qrunners. Any of the above might fall over on its own. (I don't think there's any way to check on the health of a particular qrunner from the net, though.) > Or, if not, is there a way of stopping Django from sending out the > emails? There probably is, but I don't know it. Mark might, but if not asking on a Django list would be a better place.

4 years, 7 months

Re: Apache+mod_wsgi issue

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Odhiambo Washington writes: > > 2. apache.conf > > > <CUT> > > > ... > > > Alias /static "/opt/mailman/mm/static" > > > <Directory "/opt/mailman/mm/static"> > > > Require all granted > > > </Directory> > > > # WSGIScriptAlias /mailman3 /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py > > > # WSGIScriptAlias /accounts /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py > > > # WSGIScriptAlias /admin /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py > > > # WSGIScriptAlias /archives /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py > > > # WSGIScriptAlias /user-profile /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py > > > # WSGIScriptAlias /hyperkitty /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py > > > # WSGIScriptAlias /postorius /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py > > > WSGIScriptAlias / /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py > > > > This will send every http request to mod_wsgi except for requests to > > /static. This is OK if there are no other web sites on this server and > > the only http requests are for Django related things. > > This is just a virtual host. There are other websites on the server. If the above lines are in the virtual host element, they won't interfere with the other websites. If they are at top level, they will.

3 years, 8 months

Re: Apache Conf

by Thomas G

Same result with Alias "/static/" "/opt/mailman/static/" I have sometimes: [Fri Oct 19 22:05:52.583841 2018] [proxy_http:error] [pid 8328:tid 140435053815552] (104)Connection reset by peer: [client 1xxxxxxx1794] AH01102: error reading status line from remote server localhost:8000 [Fri Oct 19 22:05:52.583874 2018] [proxy:error] [pid 8328:tid 140435053815552] [client 1xxxxxxx:51794] AH00898: Error reading from remote server returned by /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/jquery-1.10.1.min.js But it's not systematic. Alias seem to be ignored by the proxy. Le ven. 19 oct. 2018 à 20:48, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> a écrit : > On 10/19/18 12:17 PM, Thomas G wrote: > > Hi tried both. > > > > Same result. > > > > xxxx - - [19/Oct/2018:21:14:22 +0200] "GET /static/postorius/js/script.js > > HTTP/1.1" 404 4051 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) > > Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0" > > > What's in the apache error log? > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >

7 years, 10 months

Re: Member Issue Discovered

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Brian Carpenter writes: > This is in regard to our Affinity/Empathy UIs. I believe the issue > [about data retention] that was raised originally in this > thread/post still exists with Postorius/Hyperkitty. I don't speak *for* the Mailman team on this, but my *impression* from these conversations is that we have a consensus on the team: deleting the User data (authentication and profile) is a very big deal that should be done only on explicit request, not as an automatic side effect of other changes. We understand that others have a different opinion, but we think that this is a difference of opinion, not a mistake on either side. My own suggestion is that we *should* provide the *option* to delete the User data, and prompt for it, when that User's last subscription on the server is deleted. Note that there is a race condition where the user deletes the second-to-last subscription and an admin then deletes the last one. The user won't see the option, but the admin will. I can see this as a bad outcome, depending on user's intent, whether the admin deletes the User object or leaves it in place.

5 years, 9 months

Re: Ansible role to install Mailman3

by Ruth Ivimey-Cook

Hi, Yes, my (rivimey/ansible-mailman3) version is more complex, although a lot of things have sane defaults. The split allows for a two-way split, with email on one IP and web (both P and H) on another. This is because the email and web servers that would be interacting with mailman are already on different IPs and I felt it was inappropriate to merge them. I also enabled a lot more options for configuration, though with equivalent defaults defined. I recall a lot of hassle with the config merge stuff but can't really remember what that was about. My installer code installs all the code of mailman on both servers, because this was easier than trying to work out which parts were needed and which weren't and then maintain the split. However, only the needed processes on each server are run. My install uses exim4 and mysqld, exim is installed with another of my ansible roles while mysql is using geerlingguy's. I use nginx as a reverse proxy to access postorius. I don't think I made any changes which disfavour postgres or postfix, but haven't tried to do an install with them. There is one patch needed for mailman code, for me: I add a new parameter to the django webserver so it can listen on ::0/0, without this it will only listen on one specific IP. FWIW I've attached it to this mail. If you have a play and get confused or stuck, let me know! As regards to maintenance, the role gets tweaked every so often and somewhat less often I push the current state to github. If someone reaches out to contact me I may well be able to help. I use it on a currently active mailing list... Ruth On 03/08/2023 22:52, samuel.d.darwin(a)gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > Before installing the Mailman Suite, I searched on https://galaxy.ansible.com/ for Ansible roles that might automate the whole process. https://github.com/galaxyproject/ansible-mailman3 turned out to be quite good. However, it was slightly out-of-date. I cloned it, made a few bug fixes, and corrected linting errors. Then, going further, added optional basic installations of Nginx, Postfix, PostgreSQL into the role. If anyone is installing Mailman they are welcome to try it out. > > https://github.com/cppalliance/ansible-mailman3 > > Now, I see there was a discussion on this very list about > > https://github.com/rivimey/ansible-mailman3 > > which was also a fork of natefoo's repo. > > What are the differences? As Stephen Turnbull wrote: "her (rivimey's) setup may be more complicated than most folks need (IIRC, she has a multi-homed setup with Mailman core, Postorius, and HyperKitty on three separate IPs on a separate subnet in the DMZ, while Mailman was really designed for three Mailman applications running on the same host, along with the database server and MTA)." > > My version of the role didn't follow the tactic of "three separate IPs on a separate subnet in the DMZ". Mainly, it adds postfix and postgres. Fixes small errors. Also, in a git branch of the repository named mailman3-core, I removed all the web code, so there is a version of the role that only installs core. We will use that while bundling the web components into another Django app, already deployed with docker. > > There is an open question about maintenance. Among the three roles mentioned here, which is being actively kept up-to-date? Perhaps there are no guarantees from any of them. At this instant in time, https://github.com/cppalliance/ansible-mailman3 is the most recent. Would it make sense to mention these roles in the official documentation? Not sure. Installing mailman3 is complicated and because of that, is a good fit for Ansible. > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to ruth(a)ivimey.org -- Software Manager & Engineer Tel: 01223 414180 Blog: http://www.ivimey.org/blog LinkedIn: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/ruthivimeycook/

3 years

LMTP not listening

by Bartosz Sawicki

Hi everyone :), This is my first post in this group, so let me thank all of the developers for incredible work with Mailman3. Special congratulations goes to new project leader, Abhilash :) I've been using Mailman2 from over 15 years, and recently decided that it is time to upgrade. For several days I'm playing with all of the components of the system. Currently everything looks to be working nicely :) Mailman-core, Mailman-suite (Postorius, Hyperkitty) installed directly, not using docker containers. The last step was integration with MTA. I've configured Postfix and Mailman-core according to: https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.html#mailman-… But messages send to the list address are not delivered to the list :( I've started to investigate whats happening and realize that Postfix can not connect to mailman using LMTP. It seems that mailman is not listening on port 8024. Nov 24 13:12:31 lists postfix/lmtp[2737]: connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024: Connection refused I've checked log files, but haven't realize anything unusual . Any ideas where I could try to find cause of the problem ? My mailman.cfg file MTA section: [mta] incoming: mailman.mta.postfix.LMTP outgoing: mailman.mta.deliver.deliver lmtp_host: localhost lmtp_port: 8024 smtp_host: localhost smtp_port: 25 regrds.

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

by Barry Warsaw

On Dec 09, 2016, at 09:37 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >I understand you need to feel comfortable about everything going into >the core and this takes time and energy to review all the MRs, but I >think it is pretty important to get the DMARC mitigations into the core. >If there's anything I can do to help with this, let me know. > >I will rebase my branch again and possibly make one minor tweak, but I >think it should be OK. Thanks for pushing back on this Mark. Obviously, I have a high degree of trust in your work, but yeah, my compulsive behavior is showing through. ;) Please do rebase and if you can, remilestone the MR to 3.1. We'll get it in. >I can also work on Postorius. Also in this vein I have a question. >Should the DMARC settings be added to the Alter Messages tab in the List >Settings view or would it be better to have a separate DMARC Mitigations >tab. My gut reaction is to add a separate DMARC Mitigations tab, but Florian and Terri have final say I think. Cheers, -Barry

9 years, 8 months

Re: Strange problem in user lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/16/21 2:25 AM, Gelpi Andrea wrote: > > I cant' understand why, but I have two members with the wrong name. > > "A B" <C(a)dom.tld> > "D E" <F(a)dom.tld> > > My problem is that A and B must be associated with F(a)dom.tld and vice-versa. > > I tried to delete the user member and recreate it, but it has always the > wrong name. Because the display name is associated with the Mailman user and unsubscribing the user from the list doesn't change the user. > Is it possible to correct those errors? How? The user can log in to the web UI and go to the Account link in the dropdown at the username at the upper right and change the first and last name there. If you have a recent enough Postorius, a site admin can go to the Users link at the top of a page find the user, click Manage and change the Display Name. Otherwise, you can do this in `mailman shell` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 8 months

Re: Mailman installation results in KeyError: 'env_py'

by Abhilash Raj

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 01:28 PM, Marvin Gülker wrote: > Hi, > > Am 22. October 2017 um 11:47 Uhr -0700 schrieb Abhilash Raj > <maxking(a)asynchronous.in>: > > As Simon mentioned, try using DEBUG=False, if you don't already have > > that. With DEBUG=True, you should see emails printed in a `emails` > > directory under `mailman-suite_project` directory. > > Bingo! Man, I was not seeing the forest for the trees. I should have > peeked inside that emails folder. And yes, changing the DEBUG flag > resolves the problem and emails now go out as they should. My bad! > Thank you! > > > > That being said, the enormous number of configuration files to consider > > > and dozens of cross-references to other pages in the docs make the > > > installation guide hard to follow; it also lacks logical structure in my > > > opinion, when it refers to parts of the configuration which are later > > > explained. For someone like me who never programmed a Django application > > > (Ruby dev) this is all pretty cryptic. Especially, that some parts of > > > information are on <http://docs.list.org/en/latest/index.html> whereas > > > other parts are scattered over readthedocs.io makes it very > > > complicated. > > > > There are only two primary configuration files (there are a few more for > > finer configurations ;-): > > Mh, mailman.cfg, settings.py, and hyperkitty.py are three. But I agree, > I exaggerated. > > > All the settings mentioned in the documentation go to either of these > > files, except, when configuring web server and mail server. Please open > > an issue[2] if it is not clear where a particular configuration snippet > > goes and we will fix it. > > I'll open an issue later; for now off the top of my head so I won't > forget I came over these problems with the docs: > > * The linked installation guide for Sass > (<http://sass-lang.com/install>) does not include any C/C++ > implementation you speak of. Fixed, http://sass-lang.com/libsass is the correct URL, not sure why is it not mentioned under `/install`. > * The mailman-suite's settings.py includes a handler for Less, which is > not mentioned in any documentation. I don't think we use `less` anymore, I will confirm this and remove it if needed. It hasn't caused a problem yet, so I am assuming it is never used. https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite/issues/7 > * It's officially suggested to use the "fhs" filesystem path > layout. It's not documented that you need to create the exact > directories and change permissions accordingly; even worse, if one > uses this layout, Mailman tries to write into /sbin, which only the > package manager is allowed to do. Thus, don't recommend that layout in > <http://docs.list.org/en/latest/config-core.html>. I have been thinking which layout is best and should be used. FHS makes most sense, but it is true that `pip` can't write to `/sbin` and hence it doesn't work if you aren't using a package manager. I have changed the docs to recommend `master` layout which uses the whichever directory the `mailman` command is stored in as `bin_dir`. > * This page: <http://docs.list.org/en/latest/config-core.html> does not > mention that the "postfix_lmtp" and "postfix_domains" files are > *generated* by Mailman. I spend quite some time looking for these > files before I found in the Mailman Core docs that they're generated > and it was not an error in my installation. Added a note about it in the docs under "Configuring MTA" section. > * This page: <http://docs.list.org/en/latest/config-core.html> configures > the LMTP server and the REST API server for the same TCP port > (8024). This clashes. Fixed, thanks! > * This page: <http://docs.list.org/en/latest/config-web.html> should > mention the thing with the DEBUG variable we've successfully worked > through in > this thread. Added a note about it. > * There's no mention of how to create the initial superuser on > <http://docs.list.org/en/latest/>, it is hidden down in > <https://postorius.readthedocs.io/en/latest/setup.html>, where however > there's no mention of the mailman-suite, but some kind of > "example_project". It was unclear to me whether this now applied to me > or not. Added a section about it under http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/config-web.html > * <http://docs.list.org/en/latest> contains quite some pip install > commands (duplicated from the postorius/hyperkitty/core docs), but > it's missing "$ pip3 install mailman-hyperkitty", which is only > mentioned in <http://hyperkitty.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install.html> > in the text body (but not as a command block). Added to the installation guide. > * This page: > <http://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.html> > uses "configuration: python:mailman.config.postfix" in the > introductory text without explanation, but down in the > Postfix-specific block the directive is missing with no explanation. I > opted to include it, but I don't know whether that's now correct or > not. You only need to specify settings that you want to override from default. "configuration" for Postfix used to be completely blank until recently, when we added support for regex maps along with hash maps in Postfix. The default is set to hash maps and you don't need to specify the configuration if you using it, if you need to use regex maps, you create a new configuration file and point to it under "configuration". I will see how to make that more clear in there. > The overall problem I had with the docs is that they can't be followed > top-down. One has to refer to the subproject docs if something is > unclear, then searching in them until one finds what one was looking for > (even if one doesn't know what one is looking for, as with the superuser > creation command). I totally appreciate the detailed subproject-docs > approach, but you should follow it consequently then. That is, do not > duplicate some information from the subproject docs in the mailman-suite > docs. It creates the impression as if the mailman-suite docs are > complete, which they aren't. Instead, the mailman-suite docs should use > explicit references, for example: > > 1. Do this... > 2. Now follow the procedure outlined in [Postorius Installation link] > 3. Do something else... > 4. Follow the procudedure in [Hyperkitty installation link] > > That way, the Mailman installation guide would be less of a puzzle. > It however might just be me. I apologise if I sound silly. It wasn't silly at all, in-fact you comments were very helpful to improve the documentation. We would like to not make assumptions about pre-requisite knowledge to use Mailman's documentation and it is hard for us developers to do that without feedback. Thanks a lot to you! -- Abhilash Raj maxking(a)asynchronous.in

8 years, 10 months

Re: Installing mailman 3

by Rafael Mora

Ok, so how do I config Postfix to send emails via my domain? i.e. using the email account mailing(a)labbrands.com ?? Thanks El mar., 25 jul. 2017 a las 15:33, Mark Sapiro (<mark(a)msapiro.net>) escribió: > On 07/25/2017 01:21 PM, Rafael Mora wrote: > > Regarding this: > > > > # To be added to Django's settings.py > > > > EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend' > > EMAIL_HOST = 'localhost' > > EMAIL_PORT = 25 > > EMAIL_HOST_USER = <username> > > EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = <password> > > > > > > > > What should I use for username and password? > > Should I keep the localhost on the host param? > > > If you want Django (i.e. Postorius, Hyperkitty and Django > admin/auth/etc.) to deliver via localhost, you don't need > EMAIL_HOST_USER and EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD. Those are only for > authentication to some other host. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list > mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > -- Atentamente / Best Regards Ing. Rafael Mora

9 years, 1 month

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