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Re: starting gunicorn per mailman.log yet gunicorn not installed

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Ken Alker writes: > I should have mentioned that I was installing "from source" in the > virtual environment (although it still seems to be package > management but just Python based instead of OS based as I'm not > compiling anything). Would your answer still apply in this > situation? Yes, it does. The list of dependent packages is in mailman/setup.py. Instead of downloading from a distro package repository, the packages are downloaded in the form of "wheels" from pypi.org (the Python Package Index). In mailmanweb, Postorius, HyperKitty, and django_mailman3 I believe the list is in requirements.txt. Distros almost never mess with these dependencies, with the single exception of gunicorn for the mailmanweb WSGI server. Distro-defined dependencies are primarily the external webserver (eg. Apache, nginx), the MTA (eg, Postfix, Exim4, Sendmail, qmail), and the relational database management system (eg, PostgreSQL, MySQL). Alternatives to gunicorn include uwsgi for nginx and Apache, and mod_wsgi for Apache. Steve

3 years, 3 months

Re: Spam from non list members

by Odhiambo Washington

On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 6:50 PM Sam Darwin via Mailman-users < mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > You configured postfix/exim directly to do rspamd filtering, or you > configured mailman to do it? Exim does int in conjunction with rspamd. > If the latter case (mailman), is it possible that affects acceptance > logic? I have the settings almost matched between MM3 and rspamd. I made rspamd do a lot more checks and bump up scores. > What if you remove rspamd and spam detection from the pipeline? [ that is > mere speculation though ] > I believe I need to strengthen my rspamd to reject spam at SMTP time. > Have you installed the latest versions of mm3, postorius, hyperkitty? > Yes. Latest in virtualenv. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

1 year, 1 month

Re: Upgrading packages

by Eggert Ehmke

Am Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2022, 19:09:20 CEST schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 10/13/22 03:49, Eggert Ehmke wrote: > > pip install --upgrade git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty@master > > > > I noticed that mistune-2.0.0rc1 was upgraded to mistune-2.0.4. > > > > All packages were upgraded fine. I applied the patch to > > venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/hyperkitty/lib/renderer.py > > It shouldn't have been necessary to apply any patch. The head of the > GitLab hyperkitty master branch is already compatible with mistune 2.0.4 strange, I still had the line with the (not working) from mistune.scanner import escape_html, escape_url maybe because the migration step was not working at that time? > I'm guessing at some point you installed something which required you to > manually make this migration and that produced this conflict. Do you > have both 0017_alter_emailtemplate_language.py and > 0017_auto_20220628_1132 in your postorius/migrations/ directory? If so, > probably just removing 0017_auto_20220628_1132 will fix this? That's what I did in the meantime, and it works now! Thank you.

3 years, 11 months

Mailman web Stopped working after upgrade

by David Krantz

Hi. I have a VERY strange behaviour. I upgraded mailman3 and mailman web this weekend. It works fine (apart from ARC which don't work correctly in my setup but that is ok). But tonight the web user interface stopped working and I have not been logged in since it worked last time so something very strange is going on. I get the dreadful error message about psycopg2._psycopg is missing although it is installed both in ubuntu and in pip in the venv I run mailman. Mailman core still works fine, it is just Django being flaky. I think that this might be due to some kind of python misfeature where compiled code behaves slightly differently to interpreted code, that might explain the delay in it working initially before breaking. I have no idea of how to solve this. I have tried to uninstall and reinstlall psycopg2 in different versions without any luck. Any ideas? Logs below. I get the following in the web server error log (removing the web things that frankly are not interesting): mod_wsgi (pid=4488): Target WSGI script 'MAILMANROOT/bin/mailman-web20200229.wsgi' cannot be loaded as Python module. mod_wsgi (pid=4488): Exception occurred processing WSGI script 'MAILMANROOT/bin/mailman-web20200229.wsgi'. Traceback (most recent call last): File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/db/backends/postgresql/base.py", line 20, in <module> import psycopg2 as Database File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/psycopg2/__init__.py", line 50, in <module> from psycopg2._psycopg import BINARY, NUMBER, STRING, DATETIME, ROWID ImportError: No module named 'psycopg2._psycopg' During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "MAILMANROOT/bin/mailman-web20200229.wsgi", line 47, in <module> application = get_wsgi_application() File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/core/wsgi.py", line 12, in get_wsgi_application django.setup(set_prefix=False) File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/__init__.py", line 24, in setup apps.populate(settings.INSTALLED_APPS) File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/apps/registry.py", line 114, in populate app_config.import_models() File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/apps/config.py", line 211, in import_models self.models_module = import_module(models_module_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.5/importlib/__init__.py", line 126, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 986, in _gcd_import File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 969, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 958, in _find_and_load_unlocked File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 673, in _load_unlocked File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 665, in exec_module File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 222, in _call_with_frames_removed File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/postorius-1.3.2-py3.7.egg/postorius/models.py", line 27, in <module> from django.contrib.auth.models import User File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/contrib/auth/models.py", line 2, in <module> from django.contrib.auth.base_user import AbstractBaseUser, BaseUserManager File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/contrib/auth/base_user.py", line 47, in <module> class AbstractBaseUser(models.Model): File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/db/models/base.py", line 117, in __new__ new_class.add_to_class('_meta', Options(meta, app_label)) File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/db/models/base.py", line 321, in add_to_class value.contribute_to_class(cls, name) File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/db/models/options.py", line 204, in contribute_to_class self.db_table = truncate_name(self.db_table, connection.ops.max_name_length()) File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/db/__init__.py", line 28, in __getattr__ return getattr(connections[DEFAULT_DB_ALIAS], item) File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/db/utils.py", line 201, in __getitem__ backend = load_backend(db['ENGINE']) File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/db/utils.py", line 110, in load_backend return import_module('%s.base' % backend_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.5/importlib/__init__.py", line 126, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "MAILMANROOT/venv-3.7_2020/lib/python3.7/site-packages/Django-2.2.10-py3.7.egg/django/db/backends/postgresql/base.py", line 24, in <module> raise ImproperlyConfigured("Error loading psycopg2 module: %s" % e) django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: Error loading psycopg2 module: No module named 'psycopg2._psycopg' Regards // David

6 years, 7 months

Re: Integration with spamassassin?

by Peter Chubb

>>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Krichel <krichel(a)openlib.org> writes: Thomas> Peter Chubb via Mailman-users writes >> What I'd like is a way for emails that I click 'discard' on in >> Postorius, to be submitted to the spamassassin Bayes classifier to >> make it more likely similar ones will be rejected in future at SMTP >> conversation time. Thomas> Well anybody who has saved emails classified as spam by Thomas> spamassassin will have no shortage of sample spam Thomas> emails. Saving the emails to a Mailman instance will only Thomas> bring added value if these emails are different from the Thomas> general spam. All evidence that I have had with spam suggest Thomas> that spam is sent indiscriminately, i.e. without considering Thomas> what type of person (or list) is the recipient. The headers are taken into account by the Bayes classifier. I used to use James Hendrihs solution with Mailman 2: https://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ I think I can adapt his mmlearn script ... Peter C

5 months, 3 weeks

Re: Invalid FilterAction: discard. Treating as discard

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/6/19 6:02 AM, Henrik Rasmussen wrote: > > Still, attachments (PDF) is removed by Mailman. I as the list admin to send a new mail, but hold it back, to see what type it is. You have to add the MIME types for the attachments you want kept the the list's pass_types. You need to do this via mailman shell or REST as it isn't currently exposed in Postorius. Here's an example from a list that wants to accept PDFs as well as word processing and spreadsheet documents. Note that nappdf and x-pdf are uncommon PDF subtypes that I have seen. ['multipart', 'message/rfc822', 'text/plain', 'text/html', 'application/pdf', 'application/nappdf', 'application/x-pdf', 'application/rtf', 'application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet', 'application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.spreadsheetml.sheet', 'application/vnd.ms-excel', 'application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text', 'application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document', 'application/msword' ] -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 years, 3 months

Re: Apache Conf

by Abhilash Raj

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Thomas G wrote: > Yes, of course. > > Nginx and Apache works on the same server. (Nginx is stopped) > I would like switch to Apache to add in front of hyperkitty a ldap > connection.> I need to re-compile nginx for this feature. It's directly available > in apache with a module. Not sure the reason for this, the docs mention that what you had initially and also what Mark mentioned should have worked. Both of them seem to be supported syntax from the docs[1]. The only difference that I can see is quotes, not sure if that would affect things. [1]: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_alias.html#alias > > In fact, a tried directly to integrade LDAP with django > (https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/issues/132) without results.> > > > > > > > > Le ven. 19 oct. 2018 à 20:18, Abhilash Raj <maxking(a)asynchronous.in> > a écrit :>> >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Thomas G wrote: >> > Hi tried both. >> > >> > Same result. >> > >> > xxxx - - [19/Oct/2018:21:14:22 +0200] "GET >> > /static/postorius/js/script.js>> > HTTP/1.1" 404 4051 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) >> > Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0" >> >> >> And, you have verified that the files exist at `/opt/mailman/static` >> on your host?>> >> > >> > >> > Le ven. 19 oct. 2018 à 18:59, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> a >> > écrit :>> > >> > > On 10/19/18 10:29 AM, Guiseppin Thomas wrote: >> > > > Hi, >> > > > Currently, I use a nginx configuration for mailman. It's work >> > > > perfectly.>> > > > >> > > > I tried to do the same with Apache, but the statics files are >> > > > not>> > > > delivered (404). >> > > ... >> > > > <VirtualHost *:80> >> > > > ServerName mailing.ddd.fr >> > > > >> > > > ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/mailing.error.log >> > > > CustomLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/mailing.access.log combined >> > > > >> > > > <Location /static/> >> > > > Alias "/opt/mailman/static/" >> > > > </Location> >> > > > >> > > > <Location /> >> > > > ProxyPass http://localhost:8000/ >> > > > ProxyPassReverse http://localhost:8000/ >> > > > ProxyPreserveHost On >> > > > </Location> >> > > > </VirtualHost>/ >> > > >> > > >> > > In Apache, location >> > > <http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/core.html#location> is not>> > > appropriate for resources in the file system. >> > > >> > > Try >> > > >> > > Alias /static/ /opt/mailman/static/ >> > > >> > > not within a location block. >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for >> > > gamblers,>> > > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. >> > > Dylan>> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org >> > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org>> > > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/>> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org >> > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org >> > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/>> >> >> -- >> thanks, >> Abhilash Raj (maxking) -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

7 years, 11 months

Re: Cannot setup announce-only mailing list

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/30/20 5:42 AM, Alberto Granzotto wrote: > > Of course, I want to keep this mailing list "read only" for members, and > I want only selected people to post to that mailing list. > > Any idea on how to achieve that? There is only one difference between the `Discussion` and `Announce` list styles, and that is for an `Announce` list, the `allow_list_posts` attribute is set to `False`. In turn, all that does is cause the List-Post: header to be set to NO rather than the list posting address. There is a discussion at <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030685> of how to set up an announce list for Mailman 2.1. Most of this translates straightforwardly to Mailman 3, although not all the relevant settings are exposed in Postorius. In short, you need to set this up manually using things like moderation settings and custom templates for the welcome message. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 8 months

Re: Redundant and load balanced Mailman3

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Bottom line up front: 1. Mailman was designed in the context of a single host, and most installations do work that way; we at Mailman don't know a lot about multihost setups and performance yet. This can give you some pretty large installations (eg, mail.python.org is a single host, I believe). Maybe Mark will chime in on this point. 2. You might get better information from postmasters at the largest sites who may have experience with distributed setups. fedora.org might be a good candidate because their people put a ton of work into optimizing HyperKitty for their situation (that's why HyperKitty has all the options for redis caching etc). Pawel Grzywaczewski writes: > I'm a bit confused about dependency on local files? You mean files > that are created when an e-mail is processed? Yes. > So where is the problem with redundancy? If this host is gone there > will be another Mailman deployment able to deal with the load. Where does the file go if the host goes down? If it's local and the host goes down, you lose or delay mail -- that should not happen if your Mailman system is up. That's why Abhilash mentions NFS, which allows another "core" host to take over if a "core" host goes down -- but that's not necessarily a good solution either. (I'm not saying it's *bad*, just that NFS has known problems for *some* applications, and I don't know if Mailman is one.) And of course the NFS server becomes a SPOF (single point of failure). > What about having 3 VM where all components of Mailman are > installed. Those VMs connect to 1 database on a remote host. But they don't connect to 1 database. Each component has its own database, and HyperKitty and Postorius also connects indirectly to core's database via core. They *could* all connect to one database server, but that server becomes a SPOF. > A given VM handles a request HTTP or SMTP, and if there is a > problem (or very high load of SMTP) Mailman doesn't handle SMTP requests, I assume you mean LMTP. I don't think that LMTP handling is very strenuous (could be wrong). The aiosmtp module can handle quite high loads, spending most time waiting for the payload (during which it handles other connections), then it dumps a file to disk, also quite fast. As I understand it, the bottleneck is the database stuff. Mailman does a lot of database accesses to handle a post. > there are still 2 other VM that can do the job. So perhaps the > question is: can we plug 3 Mailman instances into 1 DB? Is Mailman > software developed taking into account that several Mailman > instance writes to the same database at the same time? I don't see why that would be an ACID problem -- the database takes care of that. I do think it would make the database bottleneck worse for performance. Note that we're currently seeing reports of long delays (enough to cause database connection timeouts, so on the order of minutes) in creating lists when there are already a lot of lists. If I had to put money on it, I would bet that there is some procedure iterating over incremental requests in Python that should be doing "one big request" to the database. But I don't know that that's true. I do know that there are some very big sites (such as fedora.org) that use Mailman 3. But they seem to have rather complex setups, with powerful databases and caches to speed up even that. Finally, Mailman 3 was originally designed and tested with a single host doing all the work in mind. The most obvious symptom is the lack of authentication on the REST API. (Of course you can simulate that model with an appropriate firewall and subnetting setup.)

6 years

Re: Docker mailman3 delete social logins, did something change?

by bob B

I even just tried to add in what is there ie ********* #allowed_hosts = ['127.0.0.1', 'localhost','Redacted]'] ALLOWED_HOSTS = ['127.0.0.1','localhost','[Redacted]','172.19.199.3','172.19.199.1','172.19.199.4','172.19.199.1'] #ALLOWED_HOSTS = ['*'] DEBUG = True #DEBUG = False EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend' EMAIL_HOST = 'Redacted' EMAIL_PORT = 25 INSTALLED_APPS = [ 'hyperkitty', 'postorius', 'django_mailman3', # Uncomment the next line to enable the admin: 'django.contrib.admin', # Uncomment the next line to enable admin documentation: # 'django.contrib.admindocs', 'django.contrib.auth', 'django.contrib.contenttypes', 'django.contrib.sessions', 'django.contrib.sites', 'django.contrib.messages', 'django.contrib.staticfiles', 'rest_framework', 'django_gravatar', 'compressor', 'haystack', 'django_extensions', 'django_q', 'allauth', 'allauth.account', 'allauth.socialaccount', ] ********* this this does not work the mailmanweb.log shows ERROR 2021-09-16 13:19:07,479 1647 django.security.DisallowedHost Invalid HTTP_HOST header: '`[REDACTED]`'. The domain name provided is not valid according to RFC 1034/1035. WARNING 2021-09-16 13:19:07,520 1647 django.request Bad Request: / WARNING 2021-09-16 13:19:07,520 1647 django.request Bad Request: / So that shows me that my opt/mailman/web/settings_local.py. is no longer being loaded??

5 years

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