Django errors after deleting a thread
by peter＠chubb.wattle.id.au
After deleting a thread via the web interface (because it's spam), I
get lots of messages from hyperkitty
E.g.
Internal Server Error: /hyperkitty/list/list@domain/top-threads
DoesNotExist at /hyperkitty/list/list@domain/top-threads
Thread matching query does not exist.
Request Method: GET
Request URL: https://example.com/hyperkitty/list/list@domain/top-threads
Django Version: 2.2.17
Python Executable: /usr/bin/uwsgi-core
Python Version: 3.8.6
Python Path: ['.', '', '/usr/lib/python38.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.8', '/usr/lib/python3.8/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages']
Server time: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 07:12:00 +1100
Installed Applications:
('hyperkitty',
'postorius',
'django_mailman3',
'django.contrib.admin',
'django.contrib.auth',
'django.contrib.contenttypes',
'django.contrib.sessions',
'django.contrib.sites',
'django.contrib.messages',
'django.contrib.staticfiles',
'rest_framework',
'django_gravatar',
'compressor',
'haystack',
'django_extensions',
'django_q',
'allauth',
'allauth.account',
'allauth.socialaccount')
Installed Middleware:
('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware',
'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware',
'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware',
'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware',
'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware',
'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware',
'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware',
'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware',
'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware',
'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware')
Traceback:
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py" in inner
34. response = get_response(request)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in _get_response
115. response = self.process_exception_by_middleware(e, request)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in _get_response
113. response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/lib/view_helpers.py" in inner
135. return func(request, *args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/views/mlist.py" in overview_top_threads
220. 'threads': mlist.top_threads,
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/models/mailinglist.py" in top_threads
168. return self.cached_values["top_threads"]()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/models/common.py" in __call__
59. return self.get_or_set(*args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/models/mailinglist.py" in get_or_set
376. return [Thread.objects.get(pk=pk) for pk in thread_ids]
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/models/mailinglist.py" in <listcomp>
376. return [Thread.objects.get(pk=pk) for pk in thread_ids]
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/manager.py" in manager_method
82. return getattr(self.get_queryset(), name)(*args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/query.py" in get
406. raise self.model.DoesNotExist(
Exception Type: DoesNotExist at /hyperkitty/list/devel(a)sel4.systems/top-threads
Exception Value: Thread matching query does not exist.
Request information:
USER: AnonymousUser
GET: No GET data
POST: No POST data
FILES: No FILES data
COOKIES: No cookie data
5 years, 8 months
Re: FILTER_VHOST = True doesn't work fine with alias_domain
by Élodie BOSSIER
Thank you for your response Mark,
With Mailman 2.1, the lists were split on their webpage respectively.
How could I do same with Mailman 3.3.3 (Tom Sawyer) please ?
My domain table SQL have this result :
id, mail_host, description, alias_domain
1, ml.franceserv.fr, NULL, local.ml.franceserv.fr
2, ml.viticreation.fr, NULL, local.ml.viticreation.fr
mailinglist table SQL :
id, list_name, mail_host, list_id, ...
1, bar, ml.franceserv.fr, bar.ml.franceserv.fr, ...
2, viticreation, ml.viticreation.fr, viticreation.ml.viticreation.fr, ...
Can I do something ? A patch somewhere ? Shall I wait issues are solved
and how long approximatively please ?
Which don't reassure me is I can see old discussions about FILTER_VHOST
there are 2 years.
I can retrieve my own old question there are 2 years when I tried to
migrate from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 :
https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/…
and in 2020 you told me it was working for you at this date. It's don't
reassure me to retrieve a problem I got there are 2 years.
I could set in production my Mailman 3 but the problem is my customers
won't understand why they can see the lists of others domains name ...
and not sure about the security ...
Thank you again.
Le 18/02/2022 à 00:33, Mark Sapiro a écrit :
> There are issues with FILTER_VHOST due to the fact that mailing lists
> do not have a web host attribute. This means when you go to HyperKitty
> or Postorius when FILTER_VHOST is True, we look up the domain record
> for the web host you are visiting and show you all the lists whose
> mail host matches the mail host for the web host domain. This has
> nothing to do with alias domains.
>
> What that means is if all your domains records have a unique mail
> host, FILTER_VHOST will work as you expect, but if multiple domains
> have the same mail host FILTER_VHOST will show you the lists for the
> current web host plus all those with a matching mail host.
>
> I.e. if in your case, the ml.franceserv.fr domain and the
> ml.viticreation.fr domain have the same mail host, FILTER_VHOST won't
> separate them. If they have different mail hosts FILTER_VHOST will
> separate them.
>
4 years, 5 months
Easiest way to install a new mailman3 deployment?
by ieso＠johnwillson.com
So I've been trying for the last two weeks to get a new mailman3 server running on a virtualized server (any server), and I'm turning to this list after having failed many times and running out of holiday time.
I started trying a non-docker installation on Ubuntu 18.04 (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xIcSsoNFp2nHi7r4eQys00s9a0k2sHhu1V5Plan…) , which got me the closest. Except I had a problem with inbound email only being triggered when it came from certain accounts. But that clearly wasn't good enough for production, so after many attempts to figure out where it was failing, I decided to turn to docker as a solution that should be cleaner.
A few attempts at doing a docker installation on digitalocean.com failed, which I realized might be due to it not routing private IP addresses, so I moved to AWS after checking that their VPC policy would fit mailman's docker requirements. I found a great but slightly outdated guide on how to do this (https://xiaoxing.us/2018/01/01/deploy-mailman-3-on-aws-using-docker/) By this point I knew enough to correct a number of places where the environment had changed since the procedure was written, but postorius still failed at the curl test.
The challenge for me has been the difficulty to know how to troubleshoot the different different systems and network infrastructure that are used to keep mailman3 humming. I've tried about 7 different installation walkthroughs (there are no recent ones on Youtube by the way, in case anyone wants to seize that opportunity!), and the good guides provide ways to check each stage to try to help you a bit on that front.
Nonetheless, I feel stuck and thought I'd ask the simple question... for a completely basic, barebones new installation, what's the easiest way to get a mailman3 installation up-and running? (e.g. Which server provider? Which operating system and version? Docker or otherwise?)
Any pointers highly appreciated. Google Groups is clearly on its way out, as it no longer allows for people to easily join groups by sending an email or clicking a link, so that should be a big opportunity for mailman3 to step up and help give those mailing list migrants a new home... which is what we're looking for. We're just not quite as smart as you guys. ;-)
5 years, 7 months
Re: Could not locate column in row for column 'user.id'
by Mark Sapiro
On 7/26/20 10:56 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> I am currently running Mailman 3 with version 3.3.1 and in built postfix
> version 2.10.1-6 on RHEL 7.5 in production environment from the past 2
> months almost.
>
> From the past few days, I found my server is responding to the users
> very slowly and throwing the Server Error page (of course getting the
> required page after multiple refreshes) for almost every click on the
> postorius pages (not yet observed on hyperkitty front end which in fact is
> not so important for me as of now).
>
> During that time, I observed in the mailman.log an error message saying
> "Could not locate column in row for column 'user.id'". The complete
> traceback log is attached with the mail. The error message is generated for
> almost all the lists and all the clicks.
I don't understand what's going on. I suspect some kind of database
corruption, but I don't know what.
The traceback indicates Mailman is getting the Members of a list and in
this process is trying to get the display_name for a member. The
member's subscriber attribute doesn't have a display_name so it is
trying to get is from the member's user attribute so it is trying to get
the user record for the member's email address via
IUserManager.get_user(). This in turn gets the Address record for the
email address and returns it's user attribute.
This leads to the
sqlalchemy.exc.NoSuchColumnError: "Could not locate column in row for
column 'user.id'"
error which I don't understand. There is no table with a 'user.id'
column. user.id refers to the id column in the user table which comes
from the user_id column in the address table which should be a reference
to the id column in the user table, not a reference to ay 'user.id' column.
What is your backend database and what is the structure of the address
table in that database. Have you done any kind of direct database query
that might have affected this?
--
Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
6 years
Re: Hyperkitty 403 Forbidden Error
by Phil Thompson
On 07/08/2019 17:04, Abhilash Raj wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Phil Thompson wrote:
>> On 06/08/2019 09:48, Phil Thompson wrote:
>> > On 06/08/2019 03:38, Abhilash Raj wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Aug 5, 2019, at 10:06 AM, Phil Thompson wrote:
>> >>> I'm in the process of setting up mailman3. The only problem I seem to
>> >>> be
>> >>> having is getting Hyperkitty to archive messages. Rather than the
>> >>> authorisation problems people have previously asked about on the
>> >>> list, I
>> >>> am getting a 403 error...
>> >>>
>> >>> Aug 05 15:38:40 2019 (10229) HyperKitty failure on
>> >>> http://localhost/mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/urls:
>> >>> <html><title>Forbidden</title><body>
>> >>> <h1>Access is forbidden</h1></body></html> (403)
>> >>> Aug 05 15:38:58 2019 (10222) HyperKitty failure on
>> >>> http://localhost/mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive:
>> >>> <html><title>Forbidden</title><body>
>> >>> <h1>Access is forbidden</h1></body></html> (403)
>> >>>
>> >>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> How did you install Hyperkitty?
>> >
>> > On Ubuntu...
>> >
>> > apt-get install mailman3-full
>> >
>> >> You probably need to the set the API key correctly in both Core and
>> >> Hyperkitty.
>> >>
>> >> Have you looked at documentation here[1]?
>> >>
>> >> [1]:
>> >> https://hyperkitty.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install.html#connecting-to-mail…
>> >>
>> >> Note that the MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY = "value" (this value should be in
>> >> quotes, single or double, doesn't matter) in your settings.py for Web
>> >> (Django) should be same as the `api_key : value` (without quotes here
>> >> in hyperkitty.cfg config file).
>> >
>> > That's all correct. I'm familiar with the authorisation issues that
>> > other people have had.
>> >
>> > The only thing I'm doing differently (as far as I am aware) is that
>> > I'm using a URL prefixed with /mailman3 which is stripped off in my
>> > nginx configuration...
>> >
>> > # mailman3.
>> > location /mailman3/ {
>> > uwsgi_pass unix:/run/mailman3/web/uwsgi.sock;
>> > include uwsgi_params;
>> > uwsgi_param SERVER_ADDR $server_addr;
>> > uwsgi_modifier1 30;
>> > uwsgi_param SCRIPT_NAME /mailman3;
>> > }
>> >
>> > location /mailman3/static {
>> > alias /var/lib/mailman3/web/static;
>> > }
>> >
>> > location /mailman3/static/favicon.ico {
>> > alias /var/lib/mailman3/web/static/postorius/img/favicon.ico;
>> > }
>> >
>> > ...but I don't see this affecting the mailman to Hyperkitty
>> > communication. Posting to lists and the Postorius and Hyperkitty
>> > frontends seem to work fine.
>>
>> I have now fixed the 403 error (by setting MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM to my
>> public IP address). However I now get a 400 Bad Request error.
>>
>> I have traced this to the archive() function in
>> hyperkitty/views/mailman.py which is expect a POST but is actually
>> getting a GET, specifically...
>>
>> GET '/mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive?key=...'
>>
>> ...which seems to be a fairly fundamental problem.
>>
>> Again, any suggestions would be welcome.
>
> It should be sending POST request to archive emails[1]. How did you
> grab the above request? Was it from logs?
Yes, I added DEBUG=True in mailman-web.py and captured the HTML from
mailman.log.
> Do you have anything else in the logs? There should be something in
> the Mailman Core or web logs should have something.
There's nothing useful in the core log.
There are 3 preceding entries in the web log...
GET /mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/urls?mlist=...&key=...
GET /mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/urls?mlist=...&msgid=...&key=...
GET /mailman3/hyperkitty/api/mailman/urls?mlist=...&msgid=...&key=...
There is one item in the spool directory.
These were all (apparently) successful. It seems odd that the last two
entries were identical.
Phil
7 years
Re: Unable to retrieve <800 members of Mailman list through Curl command
by Abhilash Raj
Hi,
thanks,
Abhilash Raj
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 17:58, Shashikanth Komandoor
<shashikanth.komandoor(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> I am currently running Mailman 3 with version 3.3.1 and in
> built
> postfix version 2.10.1-6 on RHEL 7.5 with PostgreSQL 11.7 version with
> default values. I am almost running 2000 lists with 128 GB RAM and 24
> Cores
> on a single VM and on which all the mailman 3 components are running.
>
> It is observed for most of the lists having members more
> than
> 500 is displaying "Mailman REST API not available. Please restart
> Mailman
> Core" message on the postorius window and on running the CURL command
> over
> REST API of Mailman it is reaching the time limit 30 seconds and
> showing
> the below error.
This is a known issue with the Members API. You can use pagination[1]
to get the list of Members in batches instead of all in a single
request. I'd say a page size of 200~ should be fine, but you should try
out on your server and adjust the size.
[1]:
https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/…
You can also use the command line to run `mailman members
ant.example.com` to get a list of Members for the list.
Abhilash
>
>
>
> *curl: (52) Empty reply from serverNo JSON object could be decoded*
>
> The same behavior is observed on browsing the held
> messages for
> few lists either through the browser or through CURL and REST API.
>
> How to resolve this issue ? What other details I can
> provide to
> make you get an idea ?
> --
> Thanks & Regards,
> Shashi Kanth.K
> 9052671936
>
>
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5 years, 6 months
hyperkitty: "incorrect string value" for botched utf-8 encoding
by thoralf
hi,
my hyperkitty installation (3.2.1 from debian buster) started to act up
recently with
(1366, "Incorrect string value: '\\xF0\\x9F\\x99\\x82\\x0AA...' for
column `mailman3web`.`hyperkitty_email`.`content` at row 1")
for every new mail that is about to be archived, i'll quote the full
error mail at the end of this mail.
i traced the issue to a slighty smiling face (aka u+1f642) in this
rather interestingly encoded email:
[…]
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="===============2457401976140816263=="
--===============2457401976140816263==
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="5ecb6fd9_327b23c6_2042"
--5ecb6fd9_327b23c6_2042
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
kann halt NIE am mittwoch. viel spass =F0=9F=99=82
[…]
--5ecb6fd9_327b23c6_2042
Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
<html xmlns=3D=22http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml=22>
[…]
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>kann halt NIE am mittwoch. viel spass =F0=9F=99=82<=
/div>
--5ecb6fd9_327b23c6_2042--
[…]
--===============2457401976140816263==--
… which still lingers around in
/var/lib/mailman3/archives/hyperkitty/spool .
is this to be expected, or might it be a good idea to amend mailman3 /
hyperkitty to deal with this more gracefully?
thank you & with kind regards,
t.
---
Internal Server Error: /hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive
OperationalError at /hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive
(1366, "Incorrect string value: '\\xF0\\x9F\\x99\\x82\\x0AA...' for
column `mailman3web`.`hyperkitty_email`.`content` at row 1")
Request Method: POST
Request URL: https://redacted
Django Version: 1.11.28
Python Executable: /usr/bin/uwsgi-core
Python Version: 3.7.3
Python Path: ['.', '', '/usr/lib/python37.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.7',
'/usr/lib/python3.7/lib-dynload',
'/usr/local/lib/python3.7/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages']
Server time: Mon, 25 May 2020 13:26:09 +0000
Installed Applications:
('hyperkitty',
'postorius',
'django_mailman3',
'django.contrib.admin',
'django.contrib.auth',
'django.contrib.contenttypes',
'django.contrib.sessions',
'django.contrib.sites',
'django.contrib.messages',
'django.contrib.staticfiles',
'rest_framework',
'django_gravatar',
'compressor',
'haystack',
'django_extensions',
'django_q',
'allauth',
'allauth.account',
'allauth.socialaccount')
Installed Middleware:
('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware',
'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware',
'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware',
'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware',
'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware',
'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware',
'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware',
'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware',
'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware',
'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware')
Traceback:
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/utils.py" in execute
64. return self.cursor.execute(sql, params)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/mysql/base.py"
in execute
101. return self.cursor.execute(query, args)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in execute
250. self.errorhandler(self, exc, value)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py" in
defaulterrorhandler
50. raise errorvalue
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in execute
247. res = self._query(query)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in _query
411. rowcount = self._do_query(q)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in _do_query
374. db.query(q)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py" in query
292. _mysql.connection.query(self, query)
The above exception ((1366, "Incorrect string value:
'\\xF0\\x9F\\x99\\x82\\x0AA...' for column
`mailman3web`.`hyperkitty_email`.`content` at row 1")) was the direct
cause of the following exception:
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py"
in inner
41. response = get_response(request)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in
_get_response
187. response =
self.process_exception_by_middleware(e, request)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in
_get_response
185. response = wrapped_callback(request,
*callback_args, **callback_kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/views/decorators/http.py" in
inner
40. return func(request, *args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/views/mailman.py" in
_decorator
69. return func(request, *args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/views/decorators/csrf.py" in
wrapped_view
58. return view_func(*args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/views/mailman.py" in archive
115. add_to_list(mlist_fqdn, msg)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/lib/incoming.py" in
add_to_list
151. email.save()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/base.py" in save
808. force_update=force_update,
update_fields=update_fields)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/base.py" in save_base
838. updated = self._save_table(raw, cls, force_insert,
force_update, using, update_fields)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/base.py" in
_save_table
924. result = self._do_insert(cls._base_manager, using,
fields, update_pk, raw)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/base.py" in _do_insert
963. using=using, raw=raw)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/manager.py" in
manager_method
85. return getattr(self.get_queryset(), name)(*args,
**kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/query.py" in _insert
1079. return
query.get_compiler(using=using).execute_sql(return_id)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/sql/compiler.py"
in execute_sql
1112. cursor.execute(sql, params)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/utils.py" in execute
64. return self.cursor.execute(sql, params)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/utils.py" in __exit__
94. six.reraise(dj_exc_type, dj_exc_value, traceback)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/utils/six.py" in reraise
685. raise value.with_traceback(tb)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/utils.py" in execute
64. return self.cursor.execute(sql, params)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/backends/mysql/base.py"
in execute
101. return self.cursor.execute(query, args)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in execute
250. self.errorhandler(self, exc, value)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py" in
defaulterrorhandler
50. raise errorvalue
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in execute
247. res = self._query(query)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in _query
411. rowcount = self._do_query(q)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py" in _do_query
374. db.query(q)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py" in query
292. _mysql.connection.query(self, query)
Exception Type: OperationalError at /hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive
Exception Value: (1366, "Incorrect string value:
'\\xF0\\x9F\\x99\\x82\\x0AA...' for column
`mailman3web`.`hyperkitty_email`.`content` at row 1")
Request information:
USER: AnonymousUser
GET:
key = 'redacted'
POST:
mlist = 'redacted'
FILES:
message = <InMemoryUploadedFile: message.txt ()>
COOKIES: No cookie data
META:
CONTENT_LENGTH = '6223'
CONTENT_TYPE = 'multipart/form-data;
boundary=4cd93acbb8c0c45d7bd46fdf1d6a31fa'
CONTEXT_DOCUMENT_ROOT = '/var/www/html'
CONTEXT_PREFIX = ''
DOCUMENT_ROOT = '/var/www/html'
GATEWAY_INTERFACE = 'CGI/1.1'
HTTPS = 'on'
HTTP_ACCEPT = '*/*'
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING = 'gzip, deflate'
HTTP_CONNECTION = 'keep-alive'
HTTP_HOST = 'lists.bing-bong.de'
HTTP_USER_AGENT = 'python-requests/2.21.0'
PATH = '/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin'
PATH_INFO = '/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive'
QUERY_STRING = 'key=redacted'
REMOTE_ADDR = '78.47.218.110'
REMOTE_PORT = '36358'
REQUEST_METHOD = 'POST'
REQUEST_SCHEME = 'https'
REQUEST_URI = 'redacted'
SCRIPT_FILENAME = 'proxy:uwsgi://localhost/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive'
SCRIPT_NAME = ''
SERVER_ADDR = '78.47.218.110'
SERVER_ADMIN = 'admin(a)bing-bong.de'
SERVER_NAME = 'lists.bing-bong.de'
SERVER_PORT = '443'
SERVER_PROTOCOL = 'HTTP/1.1'
SERVER_SIGNATURE = '<address>Apache/2.4.38 (Debian) Server at
lists.bing-bong.de Port 443</address>\n'
SERVER_SOFTWARE = 'Apache/2.4.38 (Debian)'
SSL_TLS_SNI = 'lists.bing-bong.de'
uwsgi.core = 1
uwsgi.node = b'bing-bong'
uwsgi.version = b'2.0.18-debian'
wsgi.errors = <_io.TextIOWrapper name=2 mode='w' encoding='UTF-8'>
wsgi.file_wrapper = ''
wsgi.input = <uwsgi._Input object at 0x7f2ae6af2d68>
wsgi.multiprocess = False
wsgi.multithread = True
wsgi.run_once = False
wsgi.url_scheme = 'https'
wsgi.version = '(1, 0)'
Settings:
Using settings module settings
ABSOLUTE_URL_OVERRIDES = {}
ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD = 'username_email'
ACCOUNT_DEFAULT_HTTP_PROTOCOL = 'https'
ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED = True
ACCOUNT_EMAIL_VERIFICATION = 'mandatory'
ACCOUNT_UNIQUE_EMAIL = True
ADMINS = "(('Mailman Suite Admin', 'mm3admin(a)bing-bong.de'),)"
ALLOWED_HOSTS = ['*']
APPEND_SLASH = True
AUTHENTICATION_BACKENDS = "('django.contrib.auth.backends.ModelBackend',
'allauth.account.auth_backends.AuthenticationBackend')"
AUTH_PASSWORD_VALIDATORS = '********************'
AUTH_USER_MODEL = 'auth.User'
BASE_DIR = '/usr/share/mailman3-web'
CACHES = {'default': {'BACKEND':
'django.core.cache.backends.locmem.LocMemCache'}}
CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_ALIAS = 'default'
CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_KEY_PREFIX = '********************'
CACHE_MIDDLEWARE_SECONDS = 600
COMPRESS_CACHEABLE_PRECOMPILERS = '()'
COMPRESS_CACHE_BACKEND = 'default'
COMPRESS_CACHE_KEY_FUNCTION = '********************'
COMPRESS_CLEAN_CSS_ARGUMENTS = ''
COMPRESS_CLEAN_CSS_BINARY = 'cleancss'
COMPRESS_CLOSURE_COMPILER_ARGUMENTS = ''
COMPRESS_CLOSURE_COMPILER_BINARY = 'java -jar compiler.jar'
COMPRESS_CSS_COMPRESSOR = 'compressor.css.CssCompressor'
COMPRESS_CSS_FILTERS = ['compressor.filters.css_default.CssAbsoluteFilter']
COMPRESS_CSS_HASHING_METHOD = 'mtime'
COMPRESS_DATA_URI_MAX_SIZE = 1024
COMPRESS_DEBUG_TOGGLE = None
COMPRESS_ENABLED = True
COMPRESS_JINJA2_GET_ENVIRONMENT = <function
CompressorConf.JINJA2_GET_ENVIRONMENT at 0x7f2ae8341f28>
COMPRESS_JS_COMPRESSOR = 'compressor.js.JsCompressor'
COMPRESS_JS_FILTERS = ['compressor.filters.jsmin.JSMinFilter']
COMPRESS_MINT_DELAY = 30
COMPRESS_MTIME_DELAY = 10
COMPRESS_OFFLINE = True
COMPRESS_OFFLINE_CONTEXT = {'STATIC_URL': '/mailman3/static/'}
COMPRESS_OFFLINE_MANIFEST = 'manifest.json'
COMPRESS_OFFLINE_TIMEOUT = 31536000
COMPRESS_OUTPUT_DIR = 'CACHE'
COMPRESS_PARSER = 'compressor.parser.AutoSelectParser'
COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS = "(('text/less', 'lessc {infile} {outfile}'),
('text/x-scss', 'sassc -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'),
('text/x-sass', 'sassc -t compressed {infile} {outfile}'))"
COMPRESS_REBUILD_TIMEOUT = 2592000
COMPRESS_ROOT = '/var/lib/mailman3/web/static'
COMPRESS_STORAGE = 'compressor.storage.CompressorFileStorage'
COMPRESS_TEMPLATE_FILTER_CONTEXT = {'STATIC_URL': '/mailman3/static/'}
COMPRESS_URL = '/mailman3/static/'
COMPRESS_URL_PLACEHOLDER = '/__compressor_url_placeholder__/'
COMPRESS_VERBOSE = False
COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_BINARY = 'yuglify'
COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_CSS_ARGUMENTS = '--terminal'
COMPRESS_YUGLIFY_JS_ARGUMENTS = '--terminal'
COMPRESS_YUI_BINARY = 'java -jar yuicompressor.jar'
COMPRESS_YUI_CSS_ARGUMENTS = ''
COMPRESS_YUI_JS_ARGUMENTS = ''
CSRF_COOKIE_AGE = 31449600
CSRF_COOKIE_DOMAIN = None
CSRF_COOKIE_HTTPONLY = False
CSRF_COOKIE_NAME = 'csrftoken'
CSRF_COOKIE_PATH = '/'
CSRF_COOKIE_SECURE = False
CSRF_FAILURE_VIEW = 'django.views.csrf.csrf_failure'
CSRF_HEADER_NAME = 'HTTP_X_CSRFTOKEN'
CSRF_TRUSTED_ORIGINS = []
CSRF_USE_SESSIONS = False
DATABASES = {'default': {'ENGINE': 'django.db.backends.mysql', 'NAME':
'mailman3web', 'USER': 'mailman3web', 'PASSWORD':
'********************', 'HOST': 'localhost', 'PORT': '', 'OPTIONS':
{'init_command': "SET sql_mode='STRICT_TRANS_TABLES'"},
'ATOMIC_REQUESTS': False, 'AUTOCOMMIT': True, 'CONN_MAX_AGE': 0,
'TIME_ZONE': None, 'TEST': {'CHARSET': None, 'COLLATION': None, 'NAME':
None, 'MIRROR': None}}}
DATABASE_ROUTERS = []
DATA_UPLOAD_MAX_MEMORY_SIZE = 2621440
DATA_UPLOAD_MAX_NUMBER_FIELDS = 1000
DATETIME_FORMAT = 'N j, Y, P'
DATETIME_INPUT_FORMATS = ['%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S', '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f',
'%Y-%m-%d %H:%M', '%Y-%m-%d', '%m/%d/%Y %H:%M:%S', '%m/%d/%Y
%H:%M:%S.%f', '%m/%d/%Y %H:%M', '%m/%d/%Y', '%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S',
'%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S.%f', '%m/%d/%y %H:%M', '%m/%d/%y']
DATE_FORMAT = 'N j, Y'
DATE_INPUT_FORMATS = ['%Y-%m-%d', '%m/%d/%Y', '%m/%d/%y', '%b %d %Y',
'%b %d, %Y', '%d %b %Y', '%d %b, %Y', '%B %d %Y', '%B %d, %Y', '%d %B
%Y', '%d %B, %Y']
DEBUG = False
DEBUG_PROPAGATE_EXCEPTIONS = False
DECIMAL_SEPARATOR = '.'
DEFAULT_CHARSET = 'utf-8'
DEFAULT_CONTENT_TYPE = 'text/html'
DEFAULT_EXCEPTION_REPORTER_FILTER =
'django.views.debug.SafeExceptionReporterFilter'
DEFAULT_FILE_STORAGE = 'django.core.files.storage.FileSystemStorage'
DEFAULT_FROM_EMAIL = 'postorius(a)bing-bong.de'
DEFAULT_INDEX_TABLESPACE = ''
DEFAULT_TABLESPACE = ''
DISALLOWED_USER_AGENTS = []
EMAILNAME = 'bing-bong.de'
EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend'
EMAIL_HOST = 'localhost'
EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = '********************'
EMAIL_HOST_USER = ''
EMAIL_PORT = 25
EMAIL_SSL_CERTFILE = None
EMAIL_SSL_KEYFILE = '********************'
EMAIL_SUBJECT_PREFIX = '[Django] '
EMAIL_TIMEOUT = None
EMAIL_USE_LOCALTIME = False
EMAIL_USE_SSL = False
EMAIL_USE_TLS = False
FILE_CHARSET = 'utf-8'
FILE_UPLOAD_DIRECTORY_PERMISSIONS = None
FILE_UPLOAD_HANDLERS =
['django.core.files.uploadhandler.MemoryFileUploadHandler',
'django.core.files.uploadhandler.TemporaryFileUploadHandler']
FILE_UPLOAD_MAX_MEMORY_SIZE = 2621440
FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSIONS = None
FILE_UPLOAD_TEMP_DIR = None
FILTER_VHOST = False
FIRST_DAY_OF_WEEK = 0
FIXTURE_DIRS = []
FORCE_SCRIPT_NAME = None
FORMAT_MODULE_PATH = None
FORM_RENDERER = 'django.forms.renderers.DjangoTemplates'
HAYSTACK_CONNECTIONS = {'default': {'ENGINE':
'haystack.backends.whoosh_backend.WhooshEngine', 'PATH':
'/var/lib/mailman3/web/fulltext_index'}}
HOSTNAME = 'localhost.local'
IGNORABLE_404_URLS = []
INSTALLED_APPS = "('hyperkitty', 'postorius', 'django_mailman3',
'django.contrib.admin', 'django.contrib.auth',
'django.contrib.contenttypes', 'django.contrib.sessions',
'django.contrib.sites', 'django.contrib.messages',
'django.contrib.staticfiles', 'rest_framework', 'django_gravatar',
'compressor', 'haystack', 'django_extensions', 'django_q', 'allauth',
'allauth.account', 'allauth.socialaccount')"
INTERNAL_IPS = []
LANGUAGES = [('af', 'Afrikaans'), ('ar', 'Arabic'), ('ast', 'Asturian'),
('az', 'Azerbaijani'), ('bg', 'Bulgarian'), ('be', 'Belarusian'), ('bn',
'Bengali'), ('br', 'Breton'), ('bs', 'Bosnian'), ('ca', 'Catalan'),
('cs', 'Czech'), ('cy', 'Welsh'), ('da', 'Danish'), ('de', 'German'),
('dsb', 'Lower Sorbian'), ('el', 'Greek'), ('en', 'English'), ('en-au',
'Australian English'), ('en-gb', 'British English'), ('eo',
'Esperanto'), ('es', 'Spanish'), ('es-ar', 'Argentinian Spanish'),
('es-co', 'Colombian Spanish'), ('es-mx', 'Mexican Spanish'), ('es-ni',
'Nicaraguan Spanish'), ('es-ve', 'Venezuelan Spanish'), ('et',
'Estonian'), ('eu', 'Basque'), ('fa', 'Persian'), ('fi', 'Finnish'),
('fr', 'French'), ('fy', 'Frisian'), ('ga', 'Irish'), ('gd', 'Scottish
Gaelic'), ('gl', 'Galician'), ('he', 'Hebrew'), ('hi', 'Hindi'), ('hr',
'Croatian'), ('hsb', 'Upper Sorbian'), ('hu', 'Hungarian'), ('ia',
'Interlingua'), ('id', 'Indonesian'), ('io', 'Ido'), ('is',
'Icelandic'), ('it', 'Italian'), ('ja', 'Japanese'), ('ka', 'Georgian'),
('kk', 'Kazakh'), ('km', 'Khmer'), ('kn', 'Kannada'), ('ko', 'Korean'),
('lb', 'Luxembourgish'), ('lt', 'Lithuanian'), ('lv', 'Latvian'), ('mk',
'Macedonian'), ('ml', 'Malayalam'), ('mn', 'Mongolian'), ('mr',
'Marathi'), ('my', 'Burmese'), ('nb', 'Norwegian Bokmål'), ('ne',
'Nepali'), ('nl', 'Dutch'), ('nn', 'Norwegian Nynorsk'), ('os',
'Ossetic'), ('pa', 'Punjabi'), ('pl', 'Polish'), ('pt', 'Portuguese'),
('pt-br', 'Brazilian Portuguese'), ('ro', 'Romanian'), ('ru',
'Russian'), ('sk', 'Slovak'), ('sl', 'Slovenian'), ('sq', 'Albanian'),
('sr', 'Serbian'), ('sr-latn', 'Serbian Latin'), ('sv', 'Swedish'),
('sw', 'Swahili'), ('ta', 'Tamil'), ('te', 'Telugu'), ('th', 'Thai'),
('tr', 'Turkish'), ('tt', 'Tatar'), ('udm', 'Udmurt'), ('uk',
'Ukrainian'), ('ur', 'Urdu'), ('vi', 'Vietnamese'), ('zh-hans',
'Simplified Chinese'), ('zh-hant', 'Traditional Chinese')]
LANGUAGES_BIDI = ['he', 'ar', 'fa', 'ur']
LANGUAGE_CODE = 'en-us'
LANGUAGE_COOKIE_AGE = None
LANGUAGE_COOKIE_DOMAIN = None
LANGUAGE_COOKIE_NAME = 'django_language'
LANGUAGE_COOKIE_PATH = '/'
LOCALE_PATHS = []
LOGGING = {'version': 1, 'disable_existing_loggers': False, 'filters':
{'require_debug_false': {'()': 'django.utils.log.RequireDebugFalse'}},
'handlers': {'mail_admins': {'level': 'ERROR', 'filters':
['require_debug_false'], 'class': 'django.utils.log.AdminEmailHandler'},
'file': {'level': 'INFO', 'class':
'logging.handlers.RotatingFileHandler', 'filename':
'/var/log/mailman3/web/mailman-web.log', 'formatter': 'verbose'},
'console': {'class': 'logging.StreamHandler', 'formatter': 'simple'}},
'loggers': {'django.request': {'handlers': ['mail_admins', 'file'],
'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}, 'django': {'handlers': ['file'],
'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}, 'hyperkitty': {'handlers':
['file'], 'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}, 'postorius': {'handlers':
['file'], 'level': 'INFO', 'propagate': True}}, 'formatters':
{'verbose': {'format': '%(levelname)s %(asctime)s %(process)d %(name)s
%(message)s'}, 'simple': {'format': '%(levelname)s %(message)s'}}}
LOGGING_CONFIG = 'logging.config.dictConfig'
LOGIN_REDIRECT_URL = 'list_index'
LOGIN_URL = 'account_login'
LOGOUT_REDIRECT_URL = None
LOGOUT_URL = 'account_logout'
MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_FROM = "('127.0.0.1', '::1', '78.47.218.110',
'2a01:4f8:c17:567::2/64')"
MAILMAN_ARCHIVER_KEY = '********************'
MAILMAN_REST_API_PASS = '********************'
MAILMAN_REST_API_URL = '********************'
MAILMAN_REST_API_USER = '********************'
MANAGERS = []
MEDIA_ROOT = ''
MEDIA_URL = ''
MESSAGE_STORAGE = 'django.contrib.messages.storage.fallback.FallbackStorage'
MESSAGE_TAGS = {40: 'danger'}
MIDDLEWARE = "('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware',
'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware',
'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware',
'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware',
'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware',
'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware',
'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware',
'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware',
'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware',
'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware')"
MIDDLEWARE_CLASSES = ['django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware',
'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware']
MIGRATION_MODULES = {}
MONTH_DAY_FORMAT = 'F j'
NUMBER_GROUPING = 0
PASSWORD_HASHERS = '********************'
PASSWORD_RESET_TIMEOUT_DAYS = '********************'
POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL = 'http://lists.bing-bong.de/mailman3/'
PREPEND_WWW = False
Q_CLUSTER = {'timeout': 300, 'save_limit': 100, 'orm': 'default', 'poll': 5}
ROOT_URLCONF = 'urls'
SECRET_KEY = '********************'
SECURE_BROWSER_XSS_FILTER = False
SECURE_CONTENT_TYPE_NOSNIFF = False
SECURE_HSTS_INCLUDE_SUBDOMAINS = False
SECURE_HSTS_PRELOAD = False
SECURE_HSTS_SECONDS = 0
SECURE_PROXY_SSL_HEADER = None
SECURE_REDIRECT_EXEMPT = []
SECURE_SSL_HOST = None
SECURE_SSL_REDIRECT = False
SERVER_EMAIL = 'root(a)bing-bong.de'
SESSION_CACHE_ALIAS = 'default'
SESSION_COOKIE_AGE = 1209600
SESSION_COOKIE_DOMAIN = None
SESSION_COOKIE_HTTPONLY = True
SESSION_COOKIE_NAME = 'sessionid'
SESSION_COOKIE_PATH = '/'
SESSION_COOKIE_SECURE = False
SESSION_ENGINE = 'django.contrib.sessions.backends.db'
SESSION_EXPIRE_AT_BROWSER_CLOSE = False
SESSION_FILE_PATH = None
SESSION_SAVE_EVERY_REQUEST = False
SESSION_SERIALIZER = 'django.contrib.sessions.serializers.PickleSerializer'
SETTINGS_MODULE = 'settings'
SHORT_DATETIME_FORMAT = 'm/d/Y P'
SHORT_DATE_FORMAT = 'm/d/Y'
SIGNING_BACKEND = 'django.core.signing.TimestampSigner'
SILENCED_SYSTEM_CHECKS = []
SITE_ID = 1
SOCIALACCOUNT_PROVIDERS = {}
STATICFILES_DIRS = '()'
STATICFILES_FINDERS =
"('django.contrib.staticfiles.finders.FileSystemFinder',
'django.contrib.staticfiles.finders.AppDirectoriesFinder',
'compressor.finders.CompressorFinder')"
STATICFILES_STORAGE =
'django.contrib.staticfiles.storage.StaticFilesStorage'
STATIC_ROOT = '/var/lib/mailman3/web/static'
STATIC_URL = '/mailman3/static/'
TEMPLATES = [{'BACKEND':
'django.template.backends.django.DjangoTemplates', 'DIRS': [],
'APP_DIRS': True, 'OPTIONS': {'context_processors':
['django.template.context_processors.debug',
'django.template.context_processors.i18n',
'django.template.context_processors.media',
'django.template.context_processors.static',
'django.template.context_processors.tz',
'django.template.context_processors.csrf',
'django.template.context_processors.request',
'django.contrib.auth.context_processors.auth',
'django.contrib.messages.context_processors.messages',
'django_mailman3.context_processors.common',
'hyperkitty.context_processors.common',
'postorius.context_processors.postorius']}}]
TEST_NON_SERIALIZED_APPS = []
TEST_RUNNER = 'django.test.runner.DiscoverRunner'
THOUSAND_SEPARATOR = ','
TIME_FORMAT = 'P'
TIME_INPUT_FORMATS = ['%H:%M:%S', '%H:%M:%S.%f', '%H:%M']
TIME_ZONE = 'UTC'
USE_ETAGS = False
USE_I18N = True
USE_L10N = True
USE_THOUSAND_SEPARATOR = False
USE_TZ = True
USE_X_FORWARDED_HOST = True
USE_X_FORWARDED_PORT = False
WSGI_APPLICATION = 'wsgi.application'
X_FRAME_OPTIONS = 'SAMEORIGIN'
YEAR_MONTH_FORMAT = 'F Y'
6 years, 2 months
Re: I did something stupid. Can i back out of it?
by William Oliver
On Sat, 2022-02-19 at 12:03 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 2/19/22 08:33, William Oliver wrote:
> >
> > So... I run a small mailinglist using mailman3 that has been
> > workiing
> > great for a couple of months. Last week, all my users from gmail
> > got
> > kicked off because gmail decided that the list messages were
> > "unsolicited email". I didn't find out about it until the users
> > hit
> > their mailman3 bounce limit. I *thought* would be seeing all the
> > bounce messages, but apparently not. I didn't see any config
> > settings
> > for "see all the bounce messages" so i thought to myself, "Self,
> > well
> > maybe that's because my mailinglist username doesn't have a
> > mailbox in
> > /home/listname".
>
>
> Assuming your Mailman core version is 3.3.5 and Postorius is 1.3.6,
> you
> will see settings like `Notify owner on bounce increment`, ` Notify
> owner on disable` and `Notify owner on removal` under `Bounce
> Processing`. Presumable you did get the notification of removal, so
> delivery to the owner works. Are the increment and disable (or maybe
> just disable if your versions are older) notices set to Yes?
Found it. Thanks.
>
>
> > So, I decided to try that. I created /home/listname/Maildir/* and
> > logged in as fplist to see if it would put mail there. In order to
> > log
> > in as listname, I gave the user listname a password.
>
>
> Can't you just reverse those steps. I.e. remove /home/listname/ and
> remove the listname user?
>
Well, that was my inclination, but I didn't know if I needed to have a
user by the name of listname. I was afraid that if I just deleted the
user "listname" it would cause even more problems.
I had created that user back when I was using another mailinglist
package -- a Joomla plugin (that doesn't work nearly as well as
mailman3). I was afraid to just type in "userdel -r" in case mailman3
needed a "real" user...
So, I can just kill the listname user altogether?
billo
4 years, 5 months
Re: Can't add emails to accept_these_nonmembers
by Mark Sapiro
On 2/26/26 13:20, Ibiam Chihurumnaya via Mailman-users wrote:
>
> I'm doing it in `mailman shell`, list_name is a List object, and it seems to have a `settings`
> attribute as `list_name.settings` returns
>
> {'acceptable_aliases': [], ...}
I would really like to know what Mailman version this is, and how it was
installed? In my case with Mailman core from the head of the GitLab branch:
```
$ mailman shell -l list.example.com
Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell
Use commit() to commit changes.
Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit.
Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not.
The variable 'm' is the list.example.com mailing list
>>> m.settings
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'settings'
>>> m.settings['accept_these_nonmembers']
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
AttributeError: 'MailingList' object has no attribute 'settings'
>>>
```
Presumably in your case, you could do
```
list_name.settings['accept_these_nonmembers'].append('user(a)example.com')
or
list_name.settings['accept_these_nonmembers'].extend(['user1(a)example.com',
'user2(a)example.com', 'user3(a)example.com'])
```
but as I've said previously, `accept_these_nonmembers` is not the
preferred way to do this. Something like
```
$ mailman addmembers --delivery disabled FILE LIST
```
where FILE contains the addresses to add, one per line and LIST is the
list name would add the addresses as members with delivery disabled. To
add them as nonmembers with moderation_action Defer:
```
$ mailman shell -l list.example.com
Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell
Use commit() to commit changes.
Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit.
Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not.
The variable 'm' is the list.example.com mailing list
>>> from mailman.app.membership import add_member
>>> addresses = ('user1(a)example.com', 'user2(a)example.com',
... 'user3(a)example.com')
>>> for addr in addresses:
... rr = RequestRecord(addr)
... nm = add_member(m, rr, role=MemberRole.nonmember)
... nm.moderation_action = Action.defer
...
>>>commit()
```
Of course, all of this can be done, perhaps more easily, using the
Postorius web UI.
--
Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
5 months, 1 week
Re: Emergency Moderation
by Allan Hansen
> On May 24, 2020, at 11:34 , Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote:
>
> On 5/24/20 10:59 AM, Allan Hansen wrote:
>> In the MM3 settings there is an option to ‘Hold for moderation’ when members or non-members post to the list.
>> I use that for the same cases where in MM2 I switched a list to ‘Emergency Moderation.’
>
>
> If you imported your MM 2.1 lists with `mailman import21`, `emergency`
> was set appropriately for the imported list and should be working to
> hold posts regardless of other settings.
Not sure what is the difference between ‘emergency moderation’ and ‘Hold for moderation.’ It appears redundant.
>
>
>> My own current top-of-the-list issues:
>>
>> A bug: Moderators can’t see/edit the list of members even when allowed to by list setting.
>
> The visibility issue is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/369>.
>
> Editing membership beyond what could be done via the admindb interface
> (i.e. clearing a moderated poster's mod flag) was never allowed for a
> moderator in MM 2.1.
>
> In MM 3, a moderator can set a member's moderation when handling a held
> post. Do you think a non-owner moderator should be able to make other
> changes to a member?
I can only speak for my own application of MM3:
Desiring consistency between the lists, I don’t want to turn all the moderators into owners who can change list settings.
Many of my moderators keep asking me to see the list of members and to subscribe and remove members. I end up
servicing those requests. So...
a. Moderators should be able to unsubscribe and subscribe members.
b. Moderators should be able to set the member’s moderation status.
c. Moderators should not be able to see/modify any other member settings.
>
>
>> A feature request: Member changing email address on all lists he/she belongs to, without involving moderators.
>
>
> This is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/399> and we're
> working on it.
Awesome!!!!
Thank you,
Allan
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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6 years, 2 months