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Re: Congrats on the instructions for installation on ubuntu, what about migration?

by Bill Oliver

Thanks. I'll think on that. My tables have a different prefix, so I'll have to remember where to change those config files... billo On Wed, 2024-10-09 at 13:18 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 10/8/24 5:45 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: > > > > Is there a tutorial/instructions on migrating data from an old > > system > > to a new one? It's actually not the end of the world if I don't > > get > > all the old emails transferred, but I'd like to get the email > > addresses > > of the participants moved over easily... I believe that I set it > > up > > in 2020, but did not do any version upgrades since then... > > > There's no explicit doc, but there are some posts in the archives of > this list, e.g. > < > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/me > ssage/FTIC47FPQER5FLR4IW4CGI7JB6ALKIX4/>. > > The easiest scenario is if you want to migrate everything. You just > dump > the database on the old server and load it on the new one using the > database manager's tools. > > If you only want to move some, but not all lists, it's more > complicated, > but possibly the easiest thing is to migrate everything and then > delete > the unwanted lists and their archives from Postorius and HyperKitty. > > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. > Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to billo(a)billoblog.com

1 year, 8 months

Request for ideas and mentors for Summer of Code 2026

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Hi all, The GNU Mailman Project is applying for Google Summer of Code 2026[1]. Our Ideas Page[2] has been updated. We're still open for mentors, of course, and ideas. There's no deadline, but to be most useful it would be helpful to have these suggestions by February 19 when Google announces selected organizations. Summer of Code projects must involve substantial amounts of new code. The effort involved should be 150 to 200 hours (although programmers' skills may be anywhere from "novice" to "10x", so the amount of code can vary more than that!) Projects which are primarily documentation, user interface skinning, or tests are usually ineligible. Please send those to me by email or on this list if you think the idea would be of interest to other Mailman users, or might trigger suggestions for improvement from them. We are also interested in "tiny" tasks which are suitable for demonstrating interest and making the applicant familiar with our review process. If you have some minor annoyance (whether bug or missing feature) that you think might take an experienced Mailman dev an hour, this is a good chance to get some eyes on it. For these it would be most helpful if you file an issue on the relevant project (usually core[3], Postorius[4], or HyperKitty[5]), and mark it "easy" and "GSoC", and "beginner-friendly" if appropriate. (The difference between "easy" and "beginner-friendly" is "easy" means low effort, while "beginner-friendly" means it does not require prior knowledge of Mailman internals or non-stdlib Python modules such as SQLAlchemy, Zope, or Django.) Documentation and testing tasks are welcome here. Looking forward to your ideas! Steve Footnotes: [1] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ [2] https://wiki.list.org/DEV/Google%20Summer%20of%20Code%202026 [3] https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman [4] https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius [5] https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan

4 months, 2 weeks

Re: HyperKitty: Thread matching query does not exist

by C. R. Oldham

> Start by posting the traceback... Apologies...I know better. :-D Environment: Request Method: GET Request URL: https://listsredacted.invalid/hyperkitty/list/my-redacted-list@listsredacte… Django Version: 1.10 Python Version: 2.7.13 Installed Applications: ('hyperkitty', 'postorius', 'django_mailman3', 'django.contrib.admin', 'django.contrib.auth', 'django.contrib.contenttypes', 'django.contrib.sessions', 'django.contrib.sites', 'django.contrib.messages', 'django.contrib.staticfiles', 'rest_framework', 'django_gravatar', 'paintstore', 'compressor', 'haystack', 'django_extensions', 'django_q', 'allauth', 'allauth.account', 'allauth.socialaccount', 'django_mailman3.lib.auth.fedora', 'allauth.socialaccount.providers.openid', 'allauth.socialaccount.providers.github', 'allauth.socialaccount.providers.gitlab', 'allauth.socialaccount.providers.google') Installed Middleware: ('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware', 'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware', 'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware', 'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware', 'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware', 'django.contrib.auth.middleware.SessionAuthenticationMiddleware', 'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware', 'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware', 'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware', 'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware', 'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware') Traceback: File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py" in inner 39. response = get_response(request) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in _legacy_get_response 249. response = self._get_response(request) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in _get_response 187. response = self.process_exception_by_middleware(e, request) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in _get_response 185. response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/lib/view_helpers.py" in inner 136. return func(request, *args, **kwargs) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/views/mlist.py" in overview 128. threads = mlist.recent_threads File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/models/mailinglist.py" in recent_threads 133. return self.cached_values["recent_threads"]() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/models/common.py" in __call__ 61. return self.get_or_set(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/models/mailinglist.py" in get_or_set 271. return [Thread.objects.get(pk=pk) for pk in thread_ids] File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/db/models/manager.py" in manager_method 85. return getattr(self.get_queryset(), name)(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/db/models/query.py" in get 385. self.model._meta.object_name Exception Type: DoesNotExist at /hyperkitty/list/my-redacted-list(a)listsredacted.invalid/ Exception Value: Thread matching query does not exist.

8 years, 9 months

Re: message duplication and an NNTP related error

by Laurens Kils-Hütten

Am Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 03:59:23PM -0800 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 2/23/26 13:56, Laurens Kils-Huetten wrote: > > > > I have recently installed mailman3 on a Debian trixie system. > > How? By following > <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html>, installing > Debian packages or ?? I've used the debian packages: apt install mailman3-full mailman3-web > > > While I managed to set up most of it (the mailing lists, postorius and > > also a working gateway to our inn2 news server) I'm seeing a weird > > duplication of messages, that seems to be related to the error > > messages posted below. > > > What is the result from the command `mailman conf -s nntp`? [nntp] gatenews_every: 5m [nntp] host: localhost [nntp] password: [nntp] port: 119 [nntp] remove_headers: nntp-posting-host nntp-posting-date x-trace x-complaints-to xref date-received posted posting-version relay-version received [nntp] rewrite_duplicate_headers: To X-Original-To CC X-Original-CC Content-Transfer-Encoding X-Original-Content-Transfer-Encoding MIME-Version X-MIME-Version [nntp] user: > What are all the settings for the list at Settings->Newsgroup Gateway in > Postorius? Gateway to mail: yes Gateway to news: yes Linked newsgroup: grenzland.test Newsgroup moderation: Not Moderated NNTP include subject prefix: No > > When I switch off gating to nntp the duplication stops. Also only mail > > messages are duplicated, not the postings on the news server. > > > > Any pointers as to what to look into, or how to remedy this problem > > are greatly appreciated :) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Laurens > > > > here come the error logs: > > Feb 23 20:39:08 2026 (2776528) ACCEPT: <e4938b85cbd75c0b04867514fc0b8ad9(a)betola.de> > > Feb 23 20:39:10 2026 (2776528) ACCEPT: <e4938b85cbd75c0b04867514fc0b8ad9(a)betola.de> > > The above duplicate post comes before the following error, so I don't think > the error is related to the duplication. makes sense, however when I set both Gateway flags to no I don't get those duplicates anymore. And obviously no error since mailman won't talk to NNTP. > > Feb 23 20:39:12 2026 (2776530) <e4938b85cbd75c0b04867514fc0b8ad9(a)betola.de> NNTP error for test(a)grenzland.club > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/runners/nntp.py", line 94, in _dispose > > conn.post(fp) > > ~~~~~~~~~^^^^ > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nntplib/__init__.py", line 916, in post > > return self._post('POST', data) > > ~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nntplib/__init__.py", line 909, in _post > > return self._getresp() > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^ > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nntplib/__init__.py", line 492, in _getresp > > raise NNTPTemporaryError(resp) > > nntplib.NNTPTemporaryError: 441 Can't set system Injection-Info header field > > This is a response from your nntp server. > > Note: the above traceback indicates that this nntplib is standard-nntplib > from PyPI which is normally only installed if Python is 3.13. If this is > Python 3.13 and you have installed Mailman from other than the head of the > gitlab branch, see <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> It's python 3.13.5 I looked at the patch and it seems like the change is already applied to the debian package. Thank you so much for having a look at this! Cheers, lkh > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to lkh(a)grenzland.club -- https://social.sdf-eu.org/web/@lkh IRC: lkh on Libera.chat and others Discord: lkh#2319

3 months, 3 weeks

Re: Odd hold message

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/4/19 6:00 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > I received a very simple post today that was held with the following reason: > > The message is being held because: > > Message contains administrivia > > At your convenience, visit your dashboard to approve or deny the > request. > > > What is this all about? What does Mailman consider to be administrivia, of > all things, and why is this a reason to hold a message? The administrivia check is designed to detect messages posted to a list which look like they should have been sent to the list-request address instead. You can turn this check off in Postorius at Settings -> Message Acceptance -> Administrivia. > The only thing in the message I can see is that it mentioned '100 members'. > Is Mailman becoming sentient and developing an attitude? Seriously, I'd > like to know more about this. That's not the reason. The administrivia rule checks the Subject: header and the first N non-blank lines of the first text/plain part of the message for things that look like an email command. I.e., lines that begin with a command word followed by the appropriate number of 'arguments'. Here's the list EMAIL_COMMANDS = { # keyword: (minimum #args, maximum #args) 'confirm': (1, 1), 'help': (0, 0), 'info': (0, 0), 'lists': (0, 0), 'options': (0, 0), 'password': (2, 2), 'remove': (0, 0), 'set': (3, 3), 'subscribe': (0, 3), 'unsubscribe': (0, 1), 'who': (0, 2), } This is actuall not a valid list because it is from Mailman 2.1 and not all the above are valid Mailman 3 email commands, but that's what is checked. The N is the configured value for [mailman] email_commands_max_lines: (default 10) Thus, if the Subject: or one of the first 10 non-blank lines is who are you? the administrivia rule will hit. See the source in mailman/rules/administrivia.py for more detail. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 11 months

Re: If I manually add email addresses to a list and then delete them, how do i permanent delete them from Users?

by Eggert Ehmke

Works for me too! Thank you. Only the path to python is #! /opt/mailman/venv/bin/python In my installation. Cheers, Eggert Am Dienstag, 25. April 2023, 22:51:52 CEST schrieb Mark London via Mailman-users: > Andrew - The script had: > > DELETE_MAILMAN_USER = False > > When I set it to True, it got rid of the orphaned email addresses. > Thanks! - Mark > > On 4/25/2023 6:02 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > > Mark London wrote: > > > > > > > >> I added some email addresses manually to a mailing list and then removed > >> them. But now I can't find how to totally remove them from mailman3. > >> They show up in the Users list. > > > You may find this script useful: > > https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/clean_users.py > > > > > > > > I have it running in a cronjob. Thread discussing the script can be found > > here: > > > > > > > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread > > /GH4K42T66FU5PBHJH6ZDQEIUTXVDSLOC/ > > > > > > > TLDR you end up with orphaned Django users both from when users > > subscribe/unsubscribe and due to spam signups using the Postorius form > > which never get confirmed. > > > > > > > Thanks. > > Andrew. > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message > /K3PO2XMCDR2342GVPHEQJNZPVPEPY6R4/ > > This message sent to eggert(a)eehmke.de ___________________________________________ Mailman's content filtering has removed the following MIME parts from this message. Replaced multipart/alternative part with first alternative.

3 years, 1 month

Re: Hyperkitty import from mailman2

by Sten Aus

Hi Happy new year and thank you for your support! I have managed to get it to work. I have imported config.pck from Mailman 2.1 and list archive from mobx format and it shows just great! Now just little more testing and I can finally import all old data to new Mailman 3. I imported list called "test" and the list was already created inside Mailman3 (before import). And import was successful. I will let you know the results! All the best Sten On 25/12/2017 10:25, Marvin Gülker wrote: > Am 24. December 2017 um 22:30 Uhr +0200 schrieb Sten Aus <sten.aus(a)eenet.ee>: >> Oh my god. :) That's it! There are no latest messages and front page shows >> only last month "activity". Thank you! I did not thought that I should check >> some older posts. :D > I know that feeling. It took me a while to figure this out as > well. Error on OSI Layer 8. > >> But how did you manage to import all the lists and members from Mailman2 to >> Mailman3? As I understand Mailman3 does not "support" (by manual) import >> right now? > You'll be surprised, but those mailinglists were not managed by Mailman2 > before. They were managed by mlmmj[1]. I wrote a script that converted > mlmmj's archive into mbox format, and then used the "hyperkitty_import" > command as explained by the Hyperkitty manual[2]. This worked > surprisingly well. As for the subscribers, Mailman 3's Postorius has a > mass-subscription facility in the admin interface. I extracted the list > of all subscriber emails from the mlmmj mailinglist and used that > mass-subscription facility to subscribe people again. There's an option > to disable delivery of the welcome email that should be ticked before > this I guess, though. It can be reset afterwards again. > > Greetings > Marvin > > [1] http://mlmmj.org/ > [2] http://hyperkitty.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install.html#importing-the-curre… >

8 years, 5 months

Re: Issue with Held Messages

by Jean-Luc Wasmer

On 2016-08-19 17:58, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 08/17/2016 09:17 PM, Jean-Luc Wasmer wrote: >> >> No matter what action I set for member posts (Hold for moderator, >> Reject) they are always delivered. > > > I don't know why this would be. Perhaps the member's moderation is set > to Accept immediately - you can see this on ther member's options page > in Postorius when logged in as a list owner. Apart from "Mode of Delivery" that is set to "Regular" for the user, none of the following attributes are set: Mail Delivery Receive own posts to the list Receive acknowledgement mails Conceal address from the subscriber list Avoid duplicate copies of messages > When the message is delivered, what are the X-Mailman-Rule-Hits: and > X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: headers? > There is no X-Mailman-Rule-Hits header. X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: approved; emergency; loop; member-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header; nonmember-moderation By the way, I didn't mention before but in Settings | Message Acceptance, the "Acceptable aliases:" box contains "[]". When I try to Save changes after modifying something, I gut "An error occured: []" in the yellow banner (instead of "The settings have been updated."). >> When I tried from a non-member email address, the message got held but >> when I try to see it I get a Server Error (500) page. The log files >> shows: >> >> ERROR 2016-08-18 01:04:30,231 base 21026 34722993152 Internal Server >> Error: /mailman3/lists/test.mydomain.com/held_messages >> Traceback (most recent call last): > ... >> File >> "/usr/local/mailman/mailman-bundler/eggs/mailmanclient-1.0.1-py2.7.egg/mailmanclient/_client.py", >> line 443, in held >> moderation_reasons=entry['moderation_reasons'], >> KeyError: u'moderation_reasons' > > > This is apparently <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient/issues/10> > fixed by <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient/merge_requests/16> Any ETA when this will be pushed to "mailman-bundler"? Cheers, Jena-Luc

9 years, 10 months

Re: Messages not going to held queue

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Mail Person writes: > I have it set I guess by "it" you mean the user's moderation status, but there are *many* variables that affect whether mail is delivered or not. These include emergency moderation, spam filtering, and HTML handling (and there are probably others I don't remember off the top of my head), as well as individual variables such as not_metoo and the moderation status. All I can rule out is emergency_moderation, because that would prevent your test mail from being delivered when the test user is set to allow. > the user did not get a moderation email, myself as the moderator did > not get a notification, and Postorius did not show them in the held > messages queue. When you set the test user to accept, did you set it to "accept" or to "default processing"? Setting it to "accept" bypasses almost all of the acceptance checks. Usually "default processing" is what you want. > As far as logs, in var/log/mailman3 I do not see any logs other > than mailman.log, plugins.log and smtp.log. In the SMTP log I can > see that the message is getting to mailman: Does mailman.log show any errors? > This leads me to believe the message is being discarded or for some > reason not getting to the moderation queue. Sure, but Mailman doesn't do that for no reason. The only thing I can think of offhand that might happen in a mostly default configuration is that you're using an MUA that creates a multipart message where the plain part is empty and the actual message is HTML (yes, I've seen that in the wild). In some configurations that would cause the HTML part to be deleted, then the message could be recognized as empty and discarded. I haven't analyzed the code thoroughly but I don't recall a log message on that execution path so it might fit your case.

3 years, 9 months

Re: Heads up: settings.ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD is deprecated

by Thomas Krichel

This issue is still there for me. I am starting a new installation from scratch, with the venv method in 3.13. (venv) root@darni ~ # mailman-web migrate System check identified some issues: WARNINGS: ?: settings.ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD is deprecated, use: settings.ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'email', 'username'} ?: settings.ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED is deprecated, use: settings.ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS = ['email*', 'username*', 'password1*', 'password2*'] Operations to perform: Apply all migrations: account, admin, auth, contenttypes, django_mailman3, django_q, hyperkitty, postorius, sessions, sites, socialaccount Running migrations: No migrations to apply. I have root@darni /etc/mailman3 # head -15 /etc/mailman3/settings.py # Mailman Web configuration file. # /etc/mailman3/settings.py # Get the default settings. from mailman_web.settings.base import * from mailman_web.settings.mailman import * # Settings below supplement or override the defaults. # see https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/U... del ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'email', 'username'} del ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS = ['email*', 'username*', 'password1*', 'password2*'] Which is what I believe Wikinaut suggested works for her/him. But the warning is still there. I added Marks suggestions to add verbiage in the actual codebase root@darni /etc/mailman3 # tail -17 /usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/mailman_web/settings/mailman.py ### added by ToK #: Django Allauth #ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD = "username_email" #ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED = True #ACCOUNT_EMAIL_VERIFICATION = "mandatory" #ACCOUNT_UNIQUE_EMAIL = True ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'email', 'username'} ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS = ['username*', 'email*', 'password1*', 'password2*'] ACCOUNT_EMAIL_VERIFICATION = "mandatory" ACCOUNT_UNIQUE_EMAIL = True ACCOUNT_EMAIL_UNKNOWN_ACCOUNTS = False del ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS = ['username*', 'email*', 'password1*', 'password2*'] Restarted root@darni /etc/mailman3 # systemctl restart mailman3 ; systemctl restart mailmanweb Same old. (venv) root@darni ~ # mailman-web migrate System check identified some issues: WARNINGS: ?: settings.ACCOUNT_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD is deprecated, use: settings.ACCOUNT_LOGIN_METHODS = {'email', 'username'} ?: settings.ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED is deprecated, use: settings.ACCOUNT_SIGNUP_FIELDS = ['email*', 'username*', 'password1*', 'password2*'] Operations to perform: Apply all migrations: account, admin, auth, contenttypes, django_mailman3, django_q, hyperkitty, postorius, sessions, sites, socialaccount Running migrations: No migrations to apply. Maybe I missunderstood something. -- Written by Thomas Krichel http://openlib.org/home/krichel on his 22190th day.

3 months, 2 weeks

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