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Re: getting all registered users and their lists

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/26/22 00:16, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > hi, > > TL;DR > is there a scriptable way to get all users that have registered in my > mailman3 (3.2.1) instance and which lists they are subscribed to (if any)? It's in Postorius >= 1.3.6 > longer version: > > we are running Mailman3-3.2.1 as shipped with Debian/buster (i know that > this is not the newest version; at this point, please refrain from > asking me to upgrade my Debian installation or even to switch to a venv > installation of mailman3: i'll eventually do that but right now i've gt > a problem to solve :-)) See above. ... > for this i would like to get a listing of all users that are not > subscribed to any mailinglist. > i would also like to query, when a given user has signed up (so i can > reduce the number of false positives) > > how would i do that? > ideally i would rather not work on an SQL level. You can do this in mailman shell ``` $ bin/mailman shell Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. >>> um = getUtility(IUserManager) >>> for usr in um.users: ... if len(list(usr.memberships.members)) > 0: ... continue ... adr = usr.addresses[0] ... print(f'Name: {adr.display_name}, Email: {adr.email}, Created: {usr.created_on}') ... ``` Or to skip older ones ``` >>> from datetime import datetime >>> um = getUtility(IUserManager) >>> for usr in um.users: ... if len(list(usr.memberships.members)) > 0: ... continue ... if usr.created_on < datetime(2022, 1, 1): ... continue ... adr = usr.addresses[0] ... print(f'Name: {adr.display_name}, Email: {adr.email}, Created: {usr.created_on}') ... ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 3 months

Re: Programmatic Creation of Users

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/30/22 05:25, jciesla(a)techsupportme.com wrote: > > After a lot of research I now understand that what I am doing in the Core Shell is creating a User entity which has one or more email addresses as well as one or more roles and preferences that exist at the global level. This user entity can Subscribe to zero or more lists. If I am incorrect in the summation please let me know! Almost correct. A User does have preferences but does not have roles. Roles are associated with list memberships, not users. > Assuming that the previous information is correct that brings us to my current dilemma. Specifically, the User entity can Subscribe and interact with lists using the email commands, but they can't Login using the Postorius web interface. If I understand correctly the reason that they can't login is that the underlying Django system does not recognize their account because the account that was created in Core isn't accessible by Django. Instead the user needs to create a Django-specific account at which point the information from Core becomes available in the user's web UI. The simple view is that Django users and Mailman Users are unrelated. Either can exist without the other. They only tie together if they have the same email address. That is the only connection between them. > If that is in fact accurate then I want to take the next logical leap: is it possible to programmatically create an account in Django that is tied to the account that was created in Core? See the script at https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/clean_users.py. This is an example that deals with Django users and Mailman Users and deletes some Django users. See https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/4.0/topics/db/queries/#creating-objects for information about creating objects. Also see the UserManager class in django/contrib/auth/models.py -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 9 months

Re: Python 3.13 compatibility

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Thomas Ward via Mailman-users writes: > Would it be preferred to have a section for "Install from Git > Master" or a "Install development branch" section under > Installation that addresses this?� If so I can work to edit the > site docs to make such sections. I appreciate the thought, but I don't think it's useful in the general audience documentation. Installing from HEAD is always risky, especially for people using LTS distributions. The Django situation is always fraught. Putting that recipe as is in the developer docs also doesn't make that much sense to me, as developers are expected to have full clones of the components they're working on. On the other hand something that points at the dev's local repos of the Mailman Suite components does make a lot of sense to me. Then you can add a note that "if you're only interested in some of the components, you can automatically get HEAD installations by substituting "https://gitlab.com/mailman/" for your "/path/to/local/repos/" in the `pip` commands for the rest. That makes sense to me because it means you don't have to keep a local mailmanclient clone up-to-date just to work on Postorius. And exercise for the reader: you can get your buddy's django-mailman3 hacks the same way. What do y'all think? Oh, yeah, probably ought to check the requirements.txt DAG to order the pip commands so that you're not overwriting PyPI versions with git master HEAD versions all the time. Steve > On 2026-03-30 07:39, Thomas Krichel wrote: > > pip install git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman@master git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient@master git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-hyperkitty@master git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty@master git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3@master git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius@master git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-web@master -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan

1 month

Re: Add domain to Mailman, can't create list with that new domain

by Odhiambo Washington

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 5:32 PM Andy Matthews <andy.matthews(a)zaxiom.com> wrote: > I'm testing locally to try and support additional domains. > > I can add new mailing lists with a domain: announce-123(a)mydomain.com > I can't add a new mailing list with an alternate domain: > announce-123(a)testing.com > > Following the documentation for domains I'm able to successfully add the > new domain (locally) with the following steps: > > https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/model/docs… > > 1. Shell into the mailman server > 2. Shell into the mailman Python environment: mailman shell > 3. Add a new mailing list. > from mailman.interfaces.domain import IDomainManager > from zope.component import getUtility > manager = getUtility(IDomainManager) > manager.add('testing.com') > show_domains() # with method from the above documentation URL > <Domain testing.com> > <Domain mydomain.com> > > But then when I run a cURL command (from the mailman server) to add a list > with that new domain I get an error: > $ curl -k -u restadmin:restpass -X POST -H "Content-Type: > application/json" --data '{"fqdn_listname": "new-list(a)testing.com"}' > https://0.0.0.0:8001/3.1/lists > {"title": "400 Bad Request", "description": "Domain does not exist: > testing.com"} > > Am I doing something wrong, or missing a step? If not, how do I add > support for additional domains such that I can provide mailing list support > for that domain? > I am not sure I understand your question. Do you use Postorius and you can't add new domains from there? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

1 year, 6 months

Affinity Mailman Is Now Beta

by Brian Carpenter

Dear Mailman Admins and Users, Affinity Mailman is our new admin interface for Mailman 3 and we intend to use it to replace Postorius. It has been under development for about 3 months now and it recently reached beta. Calling For Beta Testers Now that Affinity is in beta, we are looking for list admins to help us beta test it. We are interested in getting some feedback and feature requests from beta users. If you are interested in helping us test out Affinity and get a sneak peek of the future of Mailman administration, then email me at brian_carpenter(a)emwd.com <mailto:brian_carpenter@emwd.com?subject=Affinity%20Beta&body=I%20am%20interested%20in%20Beta%20Testing%20Affinity> and I will begin the process of setting you up with an Affinity Mailman admin account and provide 2 test lists to use for beta testing purposes. While I am at it: Empathy Is Now Under Development "So what in the world is Empathy? I mean really - first Affinity and now Empathy?" That is correct. We figured if we are going to replace the default admin UI (Postorius) for Mailman 3, we might as well replace the default forum/archive UI (Hyperkitty) for Mailman 3. With Empathy, we are bringing a beautiful and user-friendly experience for those who wish to use Mailman 3 as a modern forum. We want Empathy to bring a true community like approach to the use of Mailman 3 via a browser. It will supplement the mailing list feature of Mailman 3 with an easy to use online forum. So Mailman 3 users will get the best of both worlds: a modern mailing list app AND a modern forum app. Empathy can also be used to display your list threads (archives) in an easy-to-read manner, and those threads can be categorized by tags and will be searchable. -- Please let me know if you need further assistance. Thank you for your business. We appreciate our clients. Brian Carpenter EMWD.com -- EMWD's Knowledgebase: https://clientarea.emwd.com/index.php/knowledgebase EMWD's Community Forums http://discourse.emwd.com/

5 years, 10 months

Re: Congrats on the instructions for installation on ubuntu, what about migration?

by Bill Oliver

Thanks. I'll think on that. My tables have a different prefix, so I'll have to remember where to change those config files... billo On Wed, 2024-10-09 at 13:18 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 10/8/24 5:45 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: > > > > Is there a tutorial/instructions on migrating data from an old > > system > > to a new one? It's actually not the end of the world if I don't > > get > > all the old emails transferred, but I'd like to get the email > > addresses > > of the participants moved over easily... I believe that I set it > > up > > in 2020, but did not do any version upgrades since then... > > > There's no explicit doc, but there are some posts in the archives of > this list, e.g. > < > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/me > ssage/FTIC47FPQER5FLR4IW4CGI7JB6ALKIX4/>. > > The easiest scenario is if you want to migrate everything. You just > dump > the database on the old server and load it on the new one using the > database manager's tools. > > If you only want to move some, but not all lists, it's more > complicated, > but possibly the easiest thing is to migrate everything and then > delete > the unwanted lists and their archives from Postorius and HyperKitty. > > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. > Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to billo(a)billoblog.com

1 year, 6 months

Request for ideas and mentors for Summer of Code 2026

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Hi all, The GNU Mailman Project is applying for Google Summer of Code 2026[1]. Our Ideas Page[2] has been updated. We're still open for mentors, of course, and ideas. There's no deadline, but to be most useful it would be helpful to have these suggestions by February 19 when Google announces selected organizations. Summer of Code projects must involve substantial amounts of new code. The effort involved should be 150 to 200 hours (although programmers' skills may be anywhere from "novice" to "10x", so the amount of code can vary more than that!) Projects which are primarily documentation, user interface skinning, or tests are usually ineligible. Please send those to me by email or on this list if you think the idea would be of interest to other Mailman users, or might trigger suggestions for improvement from them. We are also interested in "tiny" tasks which are suitable for demonstrating interest and making the applicant familiar with our review process. If you have some minor annoyance (whether bug or missing feature) that you think might take an experienced Mailman dev an hour, this is a good chance to get some eyes on it. For these it would be most helpful if you file an issue on the relevant project (usually core[3], Postorius[4], or HyperKitty[5]), and mark it "easy" and "GSoC", and "beginner-friendly" if appropriate. (The difference between "easy" and "beginner-friendly" is "easy" means low effort, while "beginner-friendly" means it does not require prior knowledge of Mailman internals or non-stdlib Python modules such as SQLAlchemy, Zope, or Django.) Documentation and testing tasks are welcome here. Looking forward to your ideas! Steve Footnotes: [1] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ [2] https://wiki.list.org/DEV/Google%20Summer%20of%20Code%202026 [3] https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman [4] https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius [5] https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan

2 months, 4 weeks

Re: HyperKitty: Thread matching query does not exist

by C. R. Oldham

> Start by posting the traceback... Apologies...I know better. :-D Environment: Request Method: GET Request URL: https://listsredacted.invalid/hyperkitty/list/my-redacted-list@listsredacte… Django Version: 1.10 Python Version: 2.7.13 Installed Applications: ('hyperkitty', 'postorius', 'django_mailman3', 'django.contrib.admin', 'django.contrib.auth', 'django.contrib.contenttypes', 'django.contrib.sessions', 'django.contrib.sites', 'django.contrib.messages', 'django.contrib.staticfiles', 'rest_framework', 'django_gravatar', 'paintstore', 'compressor', 'haystack', 'django_extensions', 'django_q', 'allauth', 'allauth.account', 'allauth.socialaccount', 'django_mailman3.lib.auth.fedora', 'allauth.socialaccount.providers.openid', 'allauth.socialaccount.providers.github', 'allauth.socialaccount.providers.gitlab', 'allauth.socialaccount.providers.google') Installed Middleware: ('django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware', 'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware', 'django.middleware.csrf.CsrfViewMiddleware', 'django.middleware.locale.LocaleMiddleware', 'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware', 'django.contrib.auth.middleware.SessionAuthenticationMiddleware', 'django.contrib.messages.middleware.MessageMiddleware', 'django.middleware.clickjacking.XFrameOptionsMiddleware', 'django.middleware.security.SecurityMiddleware', 'django_mailman3.middleware.TimezoneMiddleware', 'postorius.middleware.PostoriusMiddleware') Traceback: File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py" in inner 39. response = get_response(request) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in _legacy_get_response 249. response = self._get_response(request) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in _get_response 187. response = self.process_exception_by_middleware(e, request) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py" in _get_response 185. response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/lib/view_helpers.py" in inner 136. return func(request, *args, **kwargs) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/views/mlist.py" in overview 128. threads = mlist.recent_threads File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/models/mailinglist.py" in recent_threads 133. return self.cached_values["recent_threads"]() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/models/common.py" in __call__ 61. return self.get_or_set(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hyperkitty/models/mailinglist.py" in get_or_set 271. return [Thread.objects.get(pk=pk) for pk in thread_ids] File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/db/models/manager.py" in manager_method 85. return getattr(self.get_queryset(), name)(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/db/models/query.py" in get 385. self.model._meta.object_name Exception Type: DoesNotExist at /hyperkitty/list/my-redacted-list(a)listsredacted.invalid/ Exception Value: Thread matching query does not exist.

8 years, 8 months

Re: message duplication and an NNTP related error

by Laurens Kils-Hütten

Am Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 03:59:23PM -0800 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 2/23/26 13:56, Laurens Kils-Huetten wrote: > > > > I have recently installed mailman3 on a Debian trixie system. > > How? By following > <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html>, installing > Debian packages or ?? I've used the debian packages: apt install mailman3-full mailman3-web > > > While I managed to set up most of it (the mailing lists, postorius and > > also a working gateway to our inn2 news server) I'm seeing a weird > > duplication of messages, that seems to be related to the error > > messages posted below. > > > What is the result from the command `mailman conf -s nntp`? [nntp] gatenews_every: 5m [nntp] host: localhost [nntp] password: [nntp] port: 119 [nntp] remove_headers: nntp-posting-host nntp-posting-date x-trace x-complaints-to xref date-received posted posting-version relay-version received [nntp] rewrite_duplicate_headers: To X-Original-To CC X-Original-CC Content-Transfer-Encoding X-Original-Content-Transfer-Encoding MIME-Version X-MIME-Version [nntp] user: > What are all the settings for the list at Settings->Newsgroup Gateway in > Postorius? Gateway to mail: yes Gateway to news: yes Linked newsgroup: grenzland.test Newsgroup moderation: Not Moderated NNTP include subject prefix: No > > When I switch off gating to nntp the duplication stops. Also only mail > > messages are duplicated, not the postings on the news server. > > > > Any pointers as to what to look into, or how to remedy this problem > > are greatly appreciated :) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Laurens > > > > here come the error logs: > > Feb 23 20:39:08 2026 (2776528) ACCEPT: <e4938b85cbd75c0b04867514fc0b8ad9(a)betola.de> > > Feb 23 20:39:10 2026 (2776528) ACCEPT: <e4938b85cbd75c0b04867514fc0b8ad9(a)betola.de> > > The above duplicate post comes before the following error, so I don't think > the error is related to the duplication. makes sense, however when I set both Gateway flags to no I don't get those duplicates anymore. And obviously no error since mailman won't talk to NNTP. > > Feb 23 20:39:12 2026 (2776530) <e4938b85cbd75c0b04867514fc0b8ad9(a)betola.de> NNTP error for test(a)grenzland.club > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/runners/nntp.py", line 94, in _dispose > > conn.post(fp) > > ~~~~~~~~~^^^^ > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nntplib/__init__.py", line 916, in post > > return self._post('POST', data) > > ~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nntplib/__init__.py", line 909, in _post > > return self._getresp() > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^ > > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nntplib/__init__.py", line 492, in _getresp > > raise NNTPTemporaryError(resp) > > nntplib.NNTPTemporaryError: 441 Can't set system Injection-Info header field > > This is a response from your nntp server. > > Note: the above traceback indicates that this nntplib is standard-nntplib > from PyPI which is normally only installed if Python is 3.13. If this is > Python 3.13 and you have installed Mailman from other than the head of the > gitlab branch, see <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> It's python 3.13.5 I looked at the patch and it seems like the change is already applied to the debian package. Thank you so much for having a look at this! Cheers, lkh > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > Archived at: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message… > > This message sent to lkh(a)grenzland.club -- https://social.sdf-eu.org/web/@lkh IRC: lkh on Libera.chat and others Discord: lkh#2319

2 months, 1 week

Re: Odd hold message

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/4/19 6:00 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > I received a very simple post today that was held with the following reason: > > The message is being held because: > > Message contains administrivia > > At your convenience, visit your dashboard to approve or deny the > request. > > > What is this all about? What does Mailman consider to be administrivia, of > all things, and why is this a reason to hold a message? The administrivia check is designed to detect messages posted to a list which look like they should have been sent to the list-request address instead. You can turn this check off in Postorius at Settings -> Message Acceptance -> Administrivia. > The only thing in the message I can see is that it mentioned '100 members'. > Is Mailman becoming sentient and developing an attitude? Seriously, I'd > like to know more about this. That's not the reason. The administrivia rule checks the Subject: header and the first N non-blank lines of the first text/plain part of the message for things that look like an email command. I.e., lines that begin with a command word followed by the appropriate number of 'arguments'. Here's the list EMAIL_COMMANDS = { # keyword: (minimum #args, maximum #args) 'confirm': (1, 1), 'help': (0, 0), 'info': (0, 0), 'lists': (0, 0), 'options': (0, 0), 'password': (2, 2), 'remove': (0, 0), 'set': (3, 3), 'subscribe': (0, 3), 'unsubscribe': (0, 1), 'who': (0, 2), } This is actuall not a valid list because it is from Mailman 2.1 and not all the above are valid Mailman 3 email commands, but that's what is checked. The N is the configured value for [mailman] email_commands_max_lines: (default 10) Thus, if the Subject: or one of the first 10 non-blank lines is who are you? the administrivia rule will hit. See the source in mailman/rules/administrivia.py for more detail. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 9 months

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