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Re: Implicit Destination Meaning

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/8/21 6:41 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > I just migrated a MM2 list to MM3. The client had no problem sending > posts to his list with MM2. However when he posted to his MM3 list, it > showed up in the moderation queue: > > ============ > Your mail to 'dogs(a)lists.redacted.org' with the subject > > mailing list changes > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The message is being held because: > > Message has implicit destination > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision. > =========== > > Is there a List Setting somewhere that needs to be adjusted to allow > this sender to post without moderation? There are a few things going on here. First, the list setting is require_explicit_destination. This is in Postorius under Settings -> Message Acceptance. If this is False or No, the implicit destination rule will never hit, but clearly it is Yes/True and should have been imported from the 2.1 list so it was probably True there too. When True, it means the list posting address or an acceptable alias must be explicitly addressed (in To:, Cc:, Resent-To: or Resent-Cc: of the post. An acceptable alias is a literal address or pattern matching addresses. These are also in Settings -> Message Acceptance and should have been imported from MM 2.1. For example, if the list's posting address is list(a)example.com, but you can also post to list(a)lists.example.com, list(a)lists.example.com should be in acceptable aliases. The most likely explanation here is that the post is being sent to a subdomain which is not the list's canonical posting address or vice versa. The reason this worked in MM 2.1 but not in MM 3 is in MM 2.1 if the list name matched, the check passed even if the domains didn't, but that is not the case in MM 3. The solution is to add the 'other' addresses to Acceptable aliases. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years, 9 months

Re: Hyperkitty performance problem

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/28/24 05:19, monochromec via Mailman-users wrote: > Following the root cause analysis which Tobias started all those weeks ago we (the admin team behind the installation) are still struggling with the following phenomenon: messages on average take more than 24 hours to be processed, more precisely, the average lifetime of a pickled message object in `/var/lib/mailman3/queue/pipeline` clocks in at around 26 hours). This issue is with Mailman core's pipeline runner. See https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/8-mil… for an overview of message handling and queues in Mailman core. It seems that the pipeline runner(s) are taking an inordinately long time to process a message through the pipeline of handlers causing the pipeline queue to become backlogged. > Couple of stats of the installation: standard installation from Bookworm OS repos, Hyperkitty as archiver and Postorius as web frontend as explained above, running Python 3.11.2 from the standard systemd service as packaged with the Bookworm deb file. All backends (Core + Hyperkitty) are supported by Postgres version 15+248. The MTA is a standard Postfix installation, again from OS packages. The primary support for Debian packages is Debian. See https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344 > The underlying VM has 7 cores with just under 24 GB of main memory. This production instance is handling less than 130 mailing list (MLs) with an average of less than 10 postings per day per ML. CPU core utilisation hovers around 50% with the lion share allocated to the four pipeline runners as part of the MM configuration. This is an average of less than 1 message per minute. Processing a message through the pipeline should take nowhere near a minute. Possibly there is an issue in the rfc_2369.py handler. This handler communicates with HyperKitty via mailman_hyperkitty to obtain values for the List-Archive: and Archived-At: headers added to the message. Possibly there is some configuration issue with mailman_hyperkitty that causes these queries to take a long time and possibly eventually time out. Are there any `Connection to HyperKitty failed:`, `HyperKitty failure on ...` or `Invalid response from HyperKitty` type messages in mailman.log? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months

Re: Migrating mailman3 to latest ubuntu lts

by Helio Loureiro

Hi, Not a very good response. (venv) mailman@new-server ~ (v3.3.9) [0|1]> mailman-web check postorius Traceback (most recent call last): File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/apps/registry.py", line 158, in get_app_config return self.app_configs[app_label] KeyError: 'postorius' During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/local/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web", line 8, in <module> sys.exit(main()) File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mailman_web/manage.py", line 90, in main execute_from_command_line(sys.argv) File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py", line 446, in execute_from_command_line utility.execute() File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py", line 440, in execute self.fetch_command(subcommand).run_from_argv(self.argv) File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/base.py", line 402, in run_from_argv self.execute(*args, **cmd_options) File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/base.py", line 448, in execute output = self.handle(*args, **options) File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/commands/check.py", line 56, in handle app_configs = [apps.get_app_config(app_label) for app_label in app_labels] File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/commands/check.py", line 56, in <listcomp> app_configs = [apps.get_app_config(app_label) for app_label in app_labels] File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/apps/registry.py", line 165, in get_app_config raise LookupError(message) LookupError: No installed app with label 'postorius'. (venv) mailman@new-server ~ (v3.3.9) [0|1]> mailman-web check hyperkitty Traceback (most recent call last): File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/apps/registry.py", line 158, in get_app_config return self.app_configs[app_label] KeyError: 'hyperkitty' During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/local/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web", line 8, in <module> sys.exit(main()) File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mailman_web/manage.py", line 90, in main execute_from_command_line(sys.argv) File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py", line 446, in execute_from_command_line utility.execute() File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py", line 440, in execute self.fetch_command(subcommand).run_from_argv(self.argv) File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/base.py", line 402, in run_from_argv self.execute(*args, **cmd_options) File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/base.py", line 448, in execute output = self.handle(*args, **options) File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/commands/check.py", line 56, in handle app_configs = [apps.get_app_config(app_label) for app_label in app_labels] File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/core/management/commands/check.py", line 56, in <listcomp> app_configs = [apps.get_app_config(app_label) for app_label in app_labels] File "/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/django/apps/registry.py", line 165, in get_app_config raise LookupError(message) LookupError: No installed app with label 'hyperkitty'. (venv) mailman@new-server ~ (v3.3.9) [0|1]> mailman-web migrate -h usage: mailman-web migrate [-h] [--noinput] [--database DATABASE] [--fake] [--fake-initial] [--plan] [--run-syncdb] [--check] [--prune] [--version] [-v {0,1,2,3}] [--settings SETTINGS] [--pythonpath PYTHONPATH] [--traceback] [--no-color] [--force-color] [--skip-checks] [app_label] [migration_name] Updates database schema. Manages both apps with migrations and those without. positional arguments: app_label App label of an application to synchronize the state. migration_name Database state will be brought to the state after that migration. Use the name "zero" to unapply all migrations. options: -h, --help show this help message and exit --noinput, --no-input Tells Django to NOT prompt the user for input of any kind. --database DATABASE Nominates a database to synchronize. Defaults to the "default" database. --fake Mark migrations as run without actually running them. --fake-initial Detect if tables already exist and fake-apply initial migrations if so. Make sure that the current database schema matches your initial migration before using this flag. Django will only check for an existing table name. --plan Shows a list of the migration actions that will be performed. --run-syncdb Creates tables for apps without migrations. --check Exits with a non-zero status if unapplied migrations exist. --prune Delete nonexistent migrations from the django_migrations table. --version Show program's version number and exit. -v {0,1,2,3}, --verbosity {0,1,2,3} Verbosity level; 0=minimal output, 1=normal output, 2=verbose output, 3=very verbose output --settings SETTINGS The Python path to a settings module, e.g. "myproject.settings.main". If this isn't provided, the DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE environment variable will be used. --pythonpath PYTHONPATH A directory to add to the Python path, e.g. "/home/djangoprojects/myproject". --traceback Raise on CommandError exceptions. --no-color Don't colorize the command output. --force-color Force colorization of the command output. --skip-checks Skip system checks. Best Regards, Helio Loureiro https://helio.loureiro.eng.br https://github.com/helioloureiro https://mastodon.social/@helioloureiro On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 at 04:15, Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen.fw(a)u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Helio Loureiro writes: > > > Well... not that good. Now it is mailman3-web that doesn't work. > > > > (venv) mailman@new-machine ~ (v3.3.9)> mailman-web check > > System check identified no issues (0 silenced). > > (venv) mailman@new-machine ~ (v3.3.9)> mailman-web check migrate > > Traceback (most recent call last): > [omitted] > > LookupError: No installed app with label 'migrate'. > > > > Any idea why migrate isn't working and saying it is installed? > > Management commands aren't applications, so they wouldn't be valid > arguments to "mailman-web check" in any case. > Try "mailman-web check postorius" or "mailman-web check hyperkitty" to > see how the application argument works. You should get the report > "System check identified no issues (0 silenced)." as above. > > Then try "mailman-web migrate -h". > If that returns help output, the migrate command is installed and can > be run (the help string is part of the migrate module, not part of > mailman-web itself). > > Why do you think "mailman-web migrate" isn't working? Most likely > "migrate" is working as designed, but it is doing nothing because > something about the way you transported the database originally caused > mailman-web to think its database schema is up-to-date even though it > is not (as happened with the mailman database). > > Unfortunately this database is managed by Django, not by Alembic, and > I don't know offhand how to discover and tell Django the actual schema > version and then ask it to run any new migrations. > > Steve > > >

1 year, 11 months

Re: Mailmanweb RAM Usage

by Odhiambo Washington

On Sun, Oct 12, 2025 at 9:48 AM Stephen J. Turnbull <steve(a)turnbull.jp> wrote: > Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users writes: > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:10?PM Stephen J. Turnbull <steve(a)turnbull.jp> > > wrote: > > > > Do you mean only HyperKitty + Postorius? That seems like a lot. > > > Yes, just Hyperkitty+Postorius: Please see > > https://imgur.com/a/LPAY69N It represents what I see daily when I > > run btop. It's always around 2GB, but rarely do I see above. I > > only have 1 major active mailing list on this server. There are > > other inactive ones. > > I'm not sure what's going on. I'm pretty sure you would save up to > 1.5GB by switching to gunicorn vs the uwsgi configuration you have. > > But the uswgi project has acquired functionality the way systemd has > over the last few years. It seems likely that you could configure it > to save a lot of memory by removing functionality you don't use. Not > sure whether than involves recompiling or just disabling unused > plugins, I'm not really familiar with uwsgi, since even for the > largest instances I've seen gunicorn is sufficiently performant and > secure. > I will switch to gunicorn and see how that goes. > The MySQL footprint also seems a bit high. but not insane, my > PostgreSQL weighs in at about 1.2GB-1.5GB. > My MariaDB is running some WordPress websites. Mailman is just one other application using it. Last week, I tried to migrate the MM3 DB to PostgreSQL, but didn't quite succeed at the last minute. It's an exercise for another day. Overall, you don't have an insane configuration, but it depends on > what you're optimizing for. > Thank you for looking into this. I will update once I have made the changes. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

1 month, 3 weeks

Re: Welcome Message

by Abhilash Raj

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019, at 1:41 PM, brian(a)emwd.com wrote: > Abhilash Raj wrote: > > If the URL for template is wrong, or Postorius is down for whatever reason, > > the subscription will fail with the error that you saw before. > > Explain URL for template. You mean "POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL"? That > is not wrong. I am confident of that. It is back to > "http://mailman-web:8000". I can successfully ping mailman-web:8000 > from bash. POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL is used to create the template urls, yes. > > > > I logged out of Postorious and subscribed using the > > > subscribe form on > > > the info page and the change to the welcome template showed up. So it > > > looks like being logged in as admin while trying to subscribe someone > > > was what was causing the problem. Is that a bug I discovered? > > I suspect stopping-restarting and re-creating the template (idk, if you > > really did that) might have something to do with it. I am not sure if this > > is a bug unless you can reliably reproduce this. > > This error is absolutely reproducible. It even impacts other list > admins who are trying to use a custom welcome message and subscribing a > member while logged into Postorious. Everything else is working fine on > this server and I followed your directions precisely when I set this > server up. Please help. Can you reply here with the output of this query on your server: $ curl --user restadmin:restpass -L http://172.19.199.2:8001/3.1/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/uris Please replace "restadmin:restpass" with the username password of the rest api, if you have customized it. It not leave it as it because that it the default. Also, replace "mailman-users.mailman3.org" with the the List-ID of your mailing list. (replace @ with .) in your posting address. If you don't have curl, choose whatever http client you have. > > Thanks, > Brian > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

6 years, 7 months

Re: Hyperkitty on Debian 12

by Michael Oberrauch

On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 08:06 +0100, Markus Grandpré wrote: > Dear Mr Sapiro, > > thank you very much for your help. The required command is: > > # mailman-web hyperkitty_import \ > -l mailman21-migration-test-04(a)mailman.uni-konstanz.de \ > /var/mailman21/testlist.mbox > > Due to the following warnings, I still have to customize Hyperkitty: > > django_mailman3.MailDomain: (models.W042) Auto-created primary key > used > when not defining a primary key type, by default > 'django.db.models.AutoField'. > HINT: Configure the DEFAULT_AUTO_FIELD setting or the > DjangoMailman3Config.default_auto_field attribute to point to a > subclass > of AutoField, e.g. 'django.db.models.BigAutoField'. > ... > > Can you give me another hint? As Linux admin I installed the packages > mailman and mailman-web that were offered to me under Debian 12. > Although during the installation of the packages user "list" was > created, I cannot use it: > > # su - list > This account is currently not available > > As with Mailman 2.1, I will probably have to continue working with > Mailman3 as root. Too bad that there is no documentation for Debian > admins like me, who don't want to dive too deep into the python > framework. Or have I overlooked something? > > Best regards, > Markus > > Hi Markus, we are also running MM3 on Debian 12 from Package Repositories. First of all, you should not try to directly switch user (su) to the lists user, it's generally intended to executes commands as that user, if necessary; either using `runuser`, `sudo`, or `su -c`. However, the prepackaged scripts `mailman-wrapper` and `mailman-web` already do this and therefore you ca run those as root without permission problems. On Debian there are two relevant users for MM3: the list user runs mailman core, whereas the www-data user runs Postorius and Hyperkitty. So you have to make shure, that the www-data user can access the .mbox files while importing. Hope that helps. Cheers, Michael -- Michael Oberrauch (er/ihm) Computerreferent Fachschaft Mathematik/Physik/Informatik/Chemie Studentische Vertretung Technische Universität München Boltzmannstraße 3 85748 Garching eMail: oberrauch(a)fs.tum.de Tel: (+49) 089 289 18545 Fax: (+49) 089 289 18546 https://mpic.fs.tum.de

1 year, 8 months

Error after upgrading mailman3

by Gelpi Andrea

Hi, in my installation the command mailman notify does not exist. Checking the debian packages I noticed the I could upgrade mailman form 3.2.1 to 3.2.2; mailman-web form 20180916-8 to 20180916-10; python3-django-hyperkitty from 1.2.2 to 1.3.2 I did it with apt-get install After that when I try to go to a postorius page the error Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core in mailman log I found: May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: Cannot import runner module: mailman.runners.rest.RESTRunner May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: Traceback (most recent call last): May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/bin/runner.py", line 55, in make_runner May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: runner_class = find_name(class_path) May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/modules.py", line 52, in find_name May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: module = import_module(module_path) May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: File "/usr/lib/python3.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 127, in import_module May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1006, in _gcd_import May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 983, in _find_and_load May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 967, in _find_and_load_unlocked May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 677, in _load_unlocked May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 728, in exec_module May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 219, in _call_with_frames_removed May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/runners/rest.py", line 27, in <module> May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: from mailman.rest.wsgiapp import make_server May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/rest/wsgiapp.py", line 25, in <module> May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: from falcon.routing import map_http_methods, set_default_responders May 4 15:13:08 posta mailman3[10259]: ImportError: cannot import name 'map_http_methods' from 'falcon.routing' (/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/falcon/routing/__init__.py) I think there is a dependency error somewhere. Is there a way to solve it? Thank You -- Gelpi ing. Andrea -------------------------------------------------------------- It took the computing power of three C-64s to fly to the Moon. It takes a 486 to run Windows 95. Something is wrong here. --------------------------------------------------------------

5 years, 7 months

Re: An archive/read-only list on a full setup?

by Mark Sapiro

On 4/11/23 09:36, Andreas Schamanek wrote: > > I have a working full installation of mailman3, postorius and hyperkitty > (on Debian 11). Now I wanted to host the archive of a remote list, and I > am wondering how to do this properly. > > After I found no documentation and no posting I simply created a list in > mailman3 with only 1 dummy member. The list address is subscribed to the > actual remote list. So, messages arrive and are archived. But that's not > optimal because hyperkitty thinks it's a normal list where it should be > read-only and do not allow subscriptions etc. > > What's the proper way to set up a hyperkitty-only list? There really isn't one as HyperKitty is intended to archive Mailman lists, however, it is possible to have a list in HyperKitty without a corresponding Mailman list. Thus, in your case you could just remove the Mailman 3 list you created and leave the HyperKitty list. Then you have an issue with posts, so you can keep sending the posts to be archived to the prior list address, but arrange for the incoming MTA to pipe mail to that address to a process. That process would do the following. Add a Unix From_ line at the beginning of the message and write the result to a temp file. Invoke a command like django-admin hyperkitty_import --no-sync-mailman --since 1990-01-01 \ -l list(a)example.com /path/to/the/tempfile where list(a)example.com is the actual HyperKitty list. This will archive the message. The addition of a Unix From_ line is to make the message file look like a mbox. Since there is no Mailman list, attempts to post or reply directly from HyperKitty will fail, although such attempts using email software will probably succeed in archiving the mail, and mail directly to that list address will be archived, but such messages won't go to the remote list. This may not be any better than what you're currently doing. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 7 months

Re: "The content of this message was lost."

by Jens Günther

You have to incorporate these 2 changes: https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/932/diffs and https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/933/diffs We made it persistent in the Dockerfile of mm-core, so that it will be rewritten every time when building the container: COPY ./moderator.py /usr/lib/python3.8/site-packages/mailman/app/moderator.py COPY ./test_moderation.py /usr/lib/python3.8/site-packages/mailman/app/tests/test_moderation.py It is already fixed in Postorius 3.3.6, but it's not clear, when maxxking's containers will be bumped to that version. Am 09.09.22 um 16:33 schrieb skenny(a)scss.tcd.ie: > I see that this issue has been discussed in a few other postings - it seems to be affecting us here at the moment. We're running Mailman 3.3.5 inside maxking's mailman-core/mailman-web Docker containers (version 0.4.3). > > This morning I composed a mail message and included two of our mailing lists in the To: field. On the first list I'm a member with address of the form my_addr_1(a)this.com. On the second I'm on it with a different address, my_addr_2(a)that.com. > > In the case of each list, Mailman held the message for moderation. As administrator, I accepted both. I then got the full message in my inbox at my_addr_1(a)this.com, but in my other inbox at my_addr_2(a)that.com, the body of the message was not present. Instead it read > > The content of this message was lost. It was probably cross-posted to > multiple lists and previously handled on another list. > > I'm wondering what's the best thing to do here. Should I maybe downgrade to an earlier version of Mailman (i.e. an earlier version of maxking's Docker containers), pending resolution of this issue ...? > > Thanks for any advice. > Stephen > > PS: > The Mailman web interface "System Information" link reports: > Mailman Core Version GNU Mailman 3.3.5 (Tom Sawyer) > Mailman Core API Version 3.1 > Mailman Core Python Version 3.8.10 (default, May 6 2021, 06:30:44) [GCC 9.3.0] > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/

3 years, 2 months

Re: Moderator e-mails only going out once a day

by Odhiambo Washington

On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 10:16 PM dgoldsmith--- via Mailman-users < mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > I am having a similar issue as Joe. > > Our Mailman 3 server is running on Rocky Linux 9.5. It is deployed using > a Python virtual environment. > > (venv) [mailman@<server> shunt]$ mailman info > GNU Mailman 3.3.9 (Tom Sawyer) > Python 3.9.21 (main, Dec 5 2024, 00:00:00) > [GCC 11.5.0 20240719 (Red Hat 11.5.0-2)] > config file: /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg > <output trimmed> > > Mailman 3.3.9 > Postorius Version 1.3.10 > HyperKitty version 1.3.9 > Postfix = 3.5.25-1.el9 (may have some newer bits backported into it - RHEL > way) > Django version = 4.2.13 > > Output of the for loop Mark provided above shows that all the lists on the > server have admin_immed_notify set to True. > > Here is the activity from the mailman.log file when I send a message to > the list and it gets held: > > Apr 21 19:11:37 2025 (2564) sans-faculty: DMARC lookup for > dgoldsmith(a)sans.org (_dmarc.sans.org) found p=reject in _dmarc.sans.org. > = v=DMARC1; p=reject; rua=mailto:dmarc_agg@vali.email > Apr 21 19:11:37 2025 (2564) HOLD: sans-faculty(a)mlm.sans.org post from > dgoldsmith(a)sans.org held, message-id= > < > SJ0PR18MB5112D63A7D9F3851A4A6B0C0AEB82(a)SJ0PR18MB5112.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>: > The message comes from a moderated member > > No further activity indicating it sends (or attempts to) a notice to the > list admins/mods about a held message. > Assuming you did run the mailman shell command and the output was: ```List sans-faculty(a)mlm.sans.org Immed notify True``` What do you have in your MTA logs around the same time? Nothing? That would imply that for this list, you have set "Default action to take when a non-member posts to the list" to "Discard" If you change that setting to "Hold for moderation", then you will receive a notification. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

7 months, 1 week

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