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Re: New Mailman 3 installation issues

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/18/21 12:30 PM, sarah.hartt(a)ionica.ca wrote: > I have been trying to get a mailman 3 installation working for longer than I'd like to admit. Core appears to be installed and working as desired but Postorius (and hyperkitty, but I haven't even started troubleshooting it while trying to get the web interface working) is only loading the main page with no lists shown and all remaining links return a server error (specific text is: "Server error > An error occurred while processing your request." with the error text highlighted). I think I followed all of the installation instructions, including the updated pythonpath line in the systemd module, but it's entirely possible that there is an error somewhere along the way. Is there more information in logs? (nginx and django) > I have had to make two minor tweaks, the /static/ location was moved from /opt/mailman/web/static to /var/www/mailman/ (owner mailman:nginx) as nginx was giving permissions errors (even if it owned the files or with the mod set to 777) with the default location and wouldn't load the css, and installed postgres directly from their repo as the method in the guide doesn't create the user. Aside from that everything should be exactly as laid out in the installation guide. The permissions is probably a SELinux or apparmor issue. Which installation guide are you following? I'm guessing https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html. Are you saying that ``` sudo apt install postgresql ``` doesn't create a `postgres` user? It should. > The logs are showing everything running and the DB logs show all the queries going through successfully, there are no errors in the web logs corresponding with the errors being served on the site aside an entry for a 500 in the access logs > > [18/May/2021:12:13:01] "GET /archives/ HTTP/1.1" 500 1102 "http://mailman3/mailman3/lists/" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.91 Safari/537.36" "-" This is a GET of /archives/ which is HyperKitty. Django should log something for this with more detail. > when I took a look in the DB tables many of them appear to be empty, I have a few lists in core that were imported from 2.1 but no new lists created. Empty tables per se is not necessarily a problem depending on which ones. > Mailman: 3.3.4 > Postorius: 1.3.4 > OS: Oracle Linux 8.3 > Python: 3.6 > postgres: 13.2 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 4 months

Re: howto reallow a banned email ?

by Nicolas Pettiaux

much thanks. I use mailman 2 interface (and will switch soon to 3) i'll look asap. --- Nicolas Pettiaux - PhD - nicolas(a){educode,pettiaux}.be - Président de Educode asbl Informer, former et susciter la réflexion des acteurs du monde de l'enseignement face aux évolutions d'un monde numérique - http://2019.educode.be & http://2018.educode.be Le 2019-06-19 6:33, Mark Sapiro a écrit : > On 6/18/19 9:12 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: >> >> By mistake a user has been banned to post to mailman list. How can I >> allow him not only to post but also to become a member of a list ? >> >> I have not found any info on the web, or I have been unable to search >> correctly. > > > Do you have the Postorius web UI in your installation? If so go to the > list's Ban List and remove the unwanted entry. > > Or is this perhaps a Mailman 2 question? If so you'll find the ban_list > in the web admin UI at Privacy options... -> Subscription rules.

7 years, 3 months

[GSoC 2026] [Feature Proposal] Per-List Backup and Restore Support

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Hi Sonika I am cross-posting and setting Reply-To to mailman-developers. People who want to discuss the user experience for this feature are welcome to override and continue here, but the primary purpose of this thread seems to be implementation, so mailman-developers seems more appropriate. You're welcome to post here, but most implementation discussions are taking place on mailman-developers(a)python.org. The advantage to posting here is primarily when you are hoping for information about how popular a feature is, or what users (mostly admins) think about a design choice that affects the user experience. >>>>> sonika gutha via Mailman-users writes: > I am exploring the possibility of implementing a *per-list backup > and restore feature* for Mailman. This has been recently requested and seems plausible in general. > I plan to implement this feature in two parts. The main backup and > restore logic should live in *Mailman Core*, since that is where > the actual list configuration and membership data are stored. Besides marshaling the information and serializing it to JSON, I think that the initial UI implementation should be done in the mailman utility. The issue is that some of the use cases involve security or reliability issues. For example, consider cloning a list configuration to a new list. This should be restricted to the superuser or domain owners, as others are not allowed to create new lists. Another example, if a list is backed up, and then accidentally deleted, it's possible that the member lists contain addresses that have been deleted. Cleaning that up may require superuser privileges. > My idea is to define a *versioned JSON format* that captures the > important per-list data such as list settings, members, owners, > moderators, and relevant subscription preferences. Subscription preferences need care, because they are the property of the subscriber, not the list administrator. > while leaving more complex areas such as archives or other external > components out of scope unless they are explicitly expected. Backing up archives is definitely out of scope. I'm not sure what other "external components" you have in mind. > *Questions:* > > 1. For the first version, what exactly should be included in > the per-list backup: only settings and memberships, or also > items like templates, ban lists, and member preferences? Everything accessible from the REST API, as much as possible. Web templates are usually customized in files in the /etc/mailman3 hierarchy, and are site-wide, so those are not in scope. > 2. Should the main export and restore implementation live in > Mailman Core, with Postorius mainly responsible for the UI and > workflow? Yes. These functions need to be accessible from the mailman utility, as there is no guarantee that Postorius is available. > 3. Is a *versioned JSON format* the preferred choice for the > backup file? By "versioned", do you mean the *format* is versioned, or the *backup* is versioned? In general, I think formats should be versioned because it's cheap to do so and may help in debugging. The backup should be versioned with the SQLAlchemy database schema, and also timestamped. For most use cases, the timestamp is most relevant, but for an old enough backup the database schema could change and should be checked. > 4. Should restore only support creating or recreating a list > from backup, or should it also support restoring into an already > existing list? It should be possible to overwrite settings in an existing list, for example in case of accidental changes, or to share ban lists and templates. Note that this implies partial restores, but that's not in scope for the moment. The specific use case recently requested was an organization that wants to implement a policy of being able to restore a deleted list for a certain period of time in case there are regrets. -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan

6 months, 1 week

Avoiding non-members to be saved.

by Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7)

Hi all: Yesterday I had a problem with a private list. A spammer sent a mail forging one address that was a non-member (in fact was an "accept this no subscriber mails" from mailman 2.1 import) with very bad intentions and it was distributed. There were no list of "accept this non members" in the Postorius config (but I'm sure that that address was "accepted" in 2.1). To avoid this from any other non member address I deleted ALL non-members. I think it is solved now (deleting all and putting to hold just the non-members addresses that I would want to pass messages on) The fact is that any sender address of mails sent to the list is saved as a "non member", and it make me nervous as it will grow despite it is a legitimate message or not. Anybody knows if there is a per list config to avoid saving all that addresses as non members? o a overall config? I couldn't find anything about this in the config pages (or googling it) Thanks in advance. --

5 years, 1 month

Re: Please help: Mailaman3 -

by Abhilash Raj

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, at 8:34 AM, Jane Anara via Mailman-users wrote: > Thank you Abhilash for your reply. I installed Mailman Core version 3.3.1. > > After your message, I ran `mailman start` and then ran the development > server. It complained of the port already in used and exited. That is > what I got in the past as well. This time, I changed the CORE REST API > port on django settings.py from port 8000 to 8001 and ran the > development server (which I often ran on 8001) on port 8006. The error > has gone away. By default, Core's REST API runs on Port 8001 and Django uses 8000. If you were using 8000 for the Core's Port in settings.py, that would mean Postorius was trying to talk to itself and hence the 404 errors with the URLs. > > Thank you for your help. > > Regards, > Jane > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

6 years

Re: New domain cannot set set host

by Alain D D Williams

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 08:18:34PM +0000, Alain Williams wrote: > I have created a new domain - via postorius > > I want to set the 'Web Host' to be the same as the new domain but I cannot see > that domain in the drop down list. Even if I save it and then edit the domain I > still cannot see it. > > I went into mailman3-web/settings.py and added it to ALLOWED_HOSTS - no joy. > > I can see the domain in table mailman3.domain and mailman3web.django_mailman3_maildomain > > But it is not in table mailman3web.django_site > > Please how do I do this ? This is what I ended up doing using mysql - not hearing of a better way of so doing (fake domain names): use mailman3web; insert into django_site (domain,name)values('maillists.co.uk','UK maillist'); -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Contact.html #include <std_disclaimer.h>

1 year, 9 months

Re: Templates

by Odhiambo Washington

On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 06:09, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 11/16/20 4:02 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Hello good people, > > > > So today I decided that I should be looking at MM3 to see how far it can > > take me. > > I started from the templates and created one for a footer for non-digest > > messages. > > > How did you create this footer?. If you created it by creating a file in > Mailman's var/templates directiory, can Mailman read it? > > I went into Postorius and selected the list. It's the only one. Selected Templates -> New Template. root@gw:/opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/site/en # ls -al /opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/site total 24 drwxr-xr-x 3 mailman3 wheel 512 Jul 25 14:44 . drwxr-xr-x 3 mailman3 wheel 512 Jul 25 14:44 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 mailman3 wheel 512 Jul 25 14:51 en I cannot find anything specific to the particular list in the path. Mailman runs as mailman3, who owns all the files. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", grep ^[^#] :-)

5 years, 10 months

Re: spanish localization

by Victoriano Giralt

El sáb, 13-02-2021 a las 14:53 -0800, Mark Sapiro escribió: > What translations are those? Please give specific examples. What I am > saying is Mailman core 3.3.3 is currently up to date with weblate. There > are no Spanish translations for core done after 7 November in weblate > and weblate shows 100% completion for Spanish for Mailman core. Mark, please, how do you check when translations happened? Nov 7th is a very significant date for me (it is my wedding anniversary) and I'm 90% sure that I dedicated time to Weblate after that date... All strings related to Mailman (core, django_mailman3, postorius and hyperkitty) are translated into Spanish 100%, but the interfaces, after updating to the latest releases, are still in Englanish (more English than Spanish). This is not a fight, we want to help, but do not know how. Thanks! -- Victoriano Giralt Innovation Director Digital Transformation Vicerectorate University of Malaga +34952131415 SPAIN ================================================================== Note: signature.asc is the electronic signature of present message A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure ? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email ?

5 years, 7 months

Re: add / remove / set moderation bit of non-members via mailman shell

by Mark Sapiro

On 2/7/24 02:37, Zaheer Abbas wrote: > > I do the above via postorius because I couldn't find a way to do this via > mailman shell. Something like ``` mark@msapiro:~$ mailman shell -l list(a)example.com Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell Use commit() to commit changes. Use abort() to discard changes since the last commit. Exit with ctrl+D does an implicit commit() but exit() does not. The variable 'm' is the list(a)example.com mailing list >>> NEW_NONMEMBERS = [('First User', 'user1(a)example.com'), ... ('Second User', 'user2(a)example.com'), ... ('Third User', 'user3(a)example.com'), ... ] >>> from mailman.app.membership import add_member >>> from mailman.interfaces.subscriptions import RequestRecord >>> for display_name, email in NEW_NONMEMBERS: ... record = RequestRecord(email, ... display_name=display_name, ... delivery_mode=None, ... ) ... member = add_member(m, record, role=MemberRole.nonmember) ... member.moderation_action = Action.accept ... >>> commit() >>> ``` -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 7 months

Re: Domain admin

by Johannes Winter

Am Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:39:58 -0700 schrieb Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net>: > On 04/24/2018 11:57 PM, Johannes Winter wrote: > > > > We would like to give our users the priviledge to create lists per > > domain. I Haven't found any options for that in the web interface. > > > > Is this possible somehow with mailman3? > > > It is not currently possible. From the point of view of Mailman Core, > anyone who can run the 'mailman' command or access the REST API can > create domains and lists. > > Postorius could support this in some way and could maintain it's own > 'authorized users' data, but it would be better to also add some > concept of domain admin to core. > > These would be significant changes. > A possible workaround could be to create several webhosts to control access rights to the mailing lists. At least I understand the option to create new "web-hosts" in "add domain" in this way. But I haven't found any further information for setting up multiple web-hosts. Is there any yet?

8 years, 4 months

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