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Re: Pck files stuck in out queue

by Lieuallen, Thomas Otis

Mark, There were no apparent permissions problems on templates. I was getting the ‘Cannot connect to SMTP server’ message in mailman.log. I did end up applying the patch to decorate.py and messages went through. I’ve since removed the patch, as I’m still looking for an answer and might as well let it queue up again. The only thing that is making me ponder at the moment is that the list owners setup a template for list:member:regular:footer in postorius. It appears that each list has a copy of that file. The modifications I see in postorius are not in their …/templates/list/<listname>/en/list:member:regular:footer.txt file. Are their modifications stored somewhere else and causing the problem? Thx Tom Lieuallen From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Date: Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 2:22 PM To: mailman-users(a)mailman3.org <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> Subject: [MM3-users] Re: Pck files stuck in out queue [This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.] On 2/6/25 12:42, Lieuallen, Thomas Otis via Mailman-users wrote: > Running Mailman 3.3.10 > > I have 11x pck files stuck in my out queue. There tends to always be a .bak file as well. If I run ‘ls -l’, the files are continually updated and rotated through, just as fast as I can look. Are old ones being delivered and new ones added or the same ones just being renamed? I suspect the latter and I suspect the issue in that case is probably due to the OUT runner trying to access a template file like list:member:{regular|generic}:{header|footer}.txt and not having permission. See the last two posts in the thread at https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.mai…<https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/…> > I believe they’re all for one list. When I use ‘strings’ on one to get a hint of what’s inside, I see the list members at the bottom (recipients). One of them consistently has ‘!’ before their email address. Not sure if that’s a clue. Just no other reason to suspect that, though. The files are python pickles and `strings` shows lots of stuff. The ! may be something in the pickle that's not part of the email address. The way to examine these files is with the `mailman qfile` command. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan _______________________________________________ Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.mai…<https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/> Archived at: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.mai…<https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…> This message sent to lieualth(a)oregonstate.edu

8 months, 2 weeks

Re: Mailman, etc. upgrade woes and persistent bugs

by Andreas Barth

* Stephen J. Turnbull (turnbull.stephen.fw(a)u.tsukuba.ac.jp) [210212 12:04]: > hansen(a)rc.org writes: > > b. The ability of members to change their addresses for all lists > > they are subscribed to. > > What exactly do you want here? I can think of a number of ways to > implement that, depending on whether the old address is to be > deactivated from the lists, unsubscribed from the lists, or deleted > from the Mailman and/or Postorius Users. There may be other > variables to consider, as well; I haven't thought about this. AFAICS > this is not a trivial feature, and I'd really like to hear from people > who want "something like" this about exactly what they want and their > use cases. Or we'll release an insufficiently designed feature that > causes somebody hundreds of problems.... I thought user could do that if they have an web account, and multiple mail addresses are associated with the account? Or does my memory serve me wrong there? Andi

4 years, 8 months

Re: Another interesting error...

by Darren Smith

"It's in Mailman's database in the 'message' table." I can see the message table - is there a way to see where it is marked as "held"? All I'm seeing in that table is id, message_id, message_id_hash, and path. I'm wanting to be able to query for held messages for a given mailing list, as there are currently over 98,000 entries in the message table. -Darren On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 3:17 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 04/23/2018 01:31 PM, Darren Smith wrote: > > So it appears that there was a message sent to one of our mailing lists > > that was put into the held message queue. However, when attempting to go > to > > the message to do the moderation, the web page returns and Error 500. > > > > Looking in the mailman log, I found this: > > > > Apr 23 14:21:02 2018 (17878) REST request handler error: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/wsgiref/handlers.py", line > 137, > > in run > > self.result = application(self.environ, self.start_response) > > File > > "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/ > mailman/database/transac > > tion.py", line 50, in wrapper > > rtn = function(*args, **kws) > > File > > "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/ > mailman/rest/wsgiapp.py" > > , line 214, in __call__ > > return super().__call__(environ, start_response) > > File "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/falcon/api.py", > > line 227 , in __call__ > > responder(req, resp, **params) > > File > > "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/ > mailman/rest/post_modera > > tion.py", line 167, in on_get > > resource = self._make_collection(request) > > File > > "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/ > mailman/rest/helpers.py" > > , line 159, in _make_collection > > for resource in collection] > > File > > "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/ > mailman/rest/helpers.py" > > , line 159, in <listcomp> > > for resource in collection] > > File > > "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/ > mailman/rest/post_modera > > tion.py", line 157, in _resource_as_dict > > resource = self._make_resource(request.id) > > File > > "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/site-packages/ > mailman/rest/post_modera > > tion.py", line 100, in _make_resource > > make_header(decode_header(resource['subject']))) > > File "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/email/header.py", line 174, in > > make_he ader > > h.append(s, charset) > > File "/opt/mailman3/conda/lib/python3.6/email/header.py", line 295, in > > append > > s = s.decode(input_charset, errors) > > UnicodeDecodeError: 'gb2312' codec can't decode byte 0x87 in position 2: > > illegal multibyte sequence > > > > It LOOKS as if there might be a character in the email somewhere - > possibly > > in the subject or sender fields? - that is somehow unexpected. > > > It appears that the Subject: header is RFC 2047 encoded and there is an > encoded word with charset gb2312 that contains an invalid encoding. > > The message is apparently defective, but this kind of defect shouldn't > cause a 500 error. > > I can't tell for sure from the traceback if this is Postorius or some > other application accessing the REST api. Is it Postorius or something > else? > > > > I am attempting to find the held message - can someone point me where I > can > > go to see the message so that I can see what might be causing the > problem? > > > It's in Mailman's database in the 'message' table. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list > mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >

7 years, 6 months

Re: Apache Configuration for Subdomain

by Mark Sapiro

On 7/26/22 14:20, Mail Person wrote: > Ok, progress with tinkering some. Using the below configuration I can manually navigate to lists.example.com/mailman3/postorius/lists/ and all is working fine. If I go to lists.example.com/mailman3 it for some reason redirects to lists.example.com/mailman/postorius/lists/ which generates a 404. This is a uWSGI issue. > ProxyPass /mailman3 unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock|uwsgi://localhost Others have found that changing this to ``` ProxyPass /mailman3/ unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock|uwsgi://localhost/ ``` fixes it. Note the added slashes after `mailman3` and `localhost`. See this thread https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… > Going to lists.example.com also hits a 404. Here > RewriteEngine on > RewriteCond %{SERVER_NAME} =lists.example.com [OR] > RewriteCond %{SERVER_NAME} =www.lists.example.com > RewriteRule ^ https://%%7BSERVER_NAME%7D%%7BREQUEST_URI%7D [END,NE,R=permanent] You're redirecting http to https, but have you defined a VirtualHost for port 443? Just copy your <VirtualHost *:80> block to a <VirtualHost *:443> block. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 2 months

Mm3 - new adventure

by SP2L

Greetings. I have up&running Mailman-2.1.23 on my web site. Lately started adventurous journey with Mailman3 which is way, way different already from the beginning. Used Mailman bundler to install GNU Mailman, Postorius and HyperKitty testing instance in virtual environment, mainly relaying on belows recipe: https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-bundler/ Present status. Above trio and MySQLServer are "talking" to each other but because there isproper database on MySQLServer I am facing strange and unexpected issues, Hi! Executing last two commands: (venv)$ ./bin/mailman start (venv)$ ./bin/mailman-web-django-admin runserver 0.0.0.0:8000 & I see Postorius and HyperKitty up & runningbut... Belowvery condensed messages from the console: /HyperKitty/ DEBUG = False [12/Mar/2017 18:59:43] "GET /archives/ HTTP/1.1" 200 8002 WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/smoothness/jquery-ui-1.10.3.custom.min.css WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/smoothness/jquery-ui-1.10.3.custom.min.css WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/libs/font-awesome/css/font-awesome.min.css WARNING Not Found: /static/CACHE/css/cbbaa5c82a81.css WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/libs/font-awesome/css/font-awesome.min.css [12/Mar/2017 18:59:43] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/smoothness/jquery-ui-1.10.3.custom.min.css HTTP/1.1" 404 146 WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/libs/icomoon/icomoon.css WARNING Not Found: /static/CACHE/css/cbbaa5c82a81.css WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/jquery-ui-1.10.3.custom.min.js WARNING Not Found: /static/CACHE/js/e6cc5c334937.js WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/libs/icomoon/icomoon.css WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/jquery-ui-1.10.3.custom.min.js [12/Mar/2017 18:59:43] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/font-awesome/css/font-awesome.min.css HTTP/1.1" 404 134 WARNING Not Found: /static/CACHE/js/e6cc5c334937.js [12/Mar/2017 18:59:43] "GET /static/CACHE/css/cbbaa5c82a81.css HTTP/1.1" 404 107 [12/Mar/2017 18:59:43] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/jquery-ui-1.10.3.custom.min.js HTTP/1.1" 404 134 [12/Mar/2017 18:59:43] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/icomoon/icomoon.css HTTP/1.1" 404 116 [12/Mar/2017 18:59:43] "GET /static/CACHE/js/e6cc5c334937.js HTTP/1.1" 404 105 WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/img/logo.png WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/img/logo.png [12/Mar/2017 18:59:43] "GET /static/hyperkitty/img/logo.png HTTP/1.1" 404 104 WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/jquery-ui-1.10.3.custom.min.js WARNING Not Found: /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/jquery-ui-1.10.3.custom.min.js [12/Mar/2017 18:59:43] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/jquery-ui-1.10.3.custom.min.js HTTP/1.1" 404 134 WARNING Not Found: /static/CACHE/js/e6cc5c334937.js WARNING Not Found: /static/CACHE/js/e6cc5c334937.js [12/Mar/2017 18:59:43] "GET /static/CACHE/js/e6cc5c334937.js HTTP/1.1" 404 105 DEBUG = True [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /archives/ HTTP/1.1" 200 8762 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/bootstrap/javascripts/bootstrap.min.js HTTP/1.1" 304 0 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery.expander.js HTTP/1.1" 304 0 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/d3.v2.min.js HTTP/1.1" 304 0 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery.hotkeys.js HTTP/1.1" 304 0 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/js/hyperkitty-common.js HTTP/1.1" 304 0 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/js/hyperkitty-index.js HTTP/1.1" 304 0 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/js/hyperkitty-overview.js HTTP/1.1" 304 0 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/js/hyperkitty-thread.js HTTP/1.1" 304 0 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/js/hyperkitty-userprofile.js HTTP/1.1" 304 0 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/icomoon/icomoon.css HTTP/1.1" 200 699 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/smoothness/jquery-ui-1.10.3.custom.min.css HTTP/1.1" 200 18334 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/jquery/jquery-ui-1.10.3.custom.min.js HTTP/1.1" 200 58173 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/CACHE/css/hyperkitty.fe05f9db56f4.css HTTP/1.1" 200 196499 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/libs/font-awesome/css/font-awesome.min.css HTTP/1.1" 200 17780 [12/Mar/2017 19:01:49] "GET /static/hyperkitty/img/logo.png HTTP/1.1" 200 21168 /mailman3/ DEBUG = False Server Error (500) DEBUG = True HTTP Error 500: A server error occurred. Please contact the administrator. Exception Location: /var/lib/mailman3/mailman-bundler/eggs/mailmanclient-1.0.1-py2.7.egg/mailmanclient/_client.py in call, line 109 Then VERY, verylong list... By means of PhpMyAdmin I created manually mailman3 database and few tables (looking at 0001_initial.py) , but it is not working O.K. This handmade table is not doing it's job. How I can export skeleton of Mm3 database to MySQLServer, please? How to solve Server Error (500)? Where to look first? Best regards. -- Tom - SP2L ------------------------------------ It is nice to be important. But it is more important to be nice!

8 years, 7 months

Re: How to remove a nonmember from a list

by Abhilash Raj

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, at 1:57 PM, skenny(a)scss.tcd.ie wrote: > Abhilash Raj wrote: > > > Could be, I am not sure which operation is it stuck at. Can you check logs to see > > where is it breaking? > > Sure. I'm doing all this under Docker; below is what I see in > /opt/mailman-web-data/logs/mailmanweb.log when I try to delete a > nonmember via the web interface. Thediagnostics appear 30 seconds > after I click on 'delete': It looks like you are looking at the Mailman-web logs. From the looks of it, the client side is basically timing out after 30 seconds. Same seems to be true for the script you wrote (which is calling the REST API underneath using mailmanclient), which is trying to fetch the list of non-members. Can you also look at the server side of the logs? It should be available at /opt/mailman/core/var/logs/mailman.log if you are using the standard docker-compose file from the repository. Abhilash > > ERROR 2020-04-09 20:35:51,482 19 postorius.middleware Mailman REST API > not available > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", > line 672, in urlopen > chunked=chunked, > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", > line 421, in _make_request > six.raise_from(e, None) > File "<string>", line 3, in raise_from > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", > line 416, in _make_request > httplib_response = conn.getresponse() > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 1346, in getresponse > response.begin() > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 307, in begin > version, status, reason = self._read_status() > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 276, in _read_status > raise RemoteDisconnected("Remote end closed connection without" > http.client.RemoteDisconnected: Remote end closed connection without > response > > During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line > 449, in send > timeout=timeout > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", > line 720, in urlopen > method, url, error=e, _pool=self, _stacktrace=sys.exc_info()[2] > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line > 400, in increment > raise six.reraise(type(error), error, _stacktrace) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/packages/six.py", line > 734, in reraise > raise value.with_traceback(tb) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", > line 672, in urlopen > chunked=chunked, > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", > line 421, in _make_request > six.raise_from(e, None) > File "<string>", line 3, in raise_from > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", > line 416, in _make_request > httplib_response = conn.getresponse() > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 1346, in getresponse > response.begin() > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 307, in begin > version, status, reason = self._read_status() > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 276, in _read_status > raise RemoteDisconnected("Remote end closed connection without" > urllib3.exceptions.ProtocolError: ('Connection aborted.', > RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response',)) > > During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File > "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/connection.py", line 96, in call > headers=headers) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 60, in > request > return session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line > 533, in request > resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line > 646, in send > r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line > 498, in send > raise ConnectionError(err, request=request) > requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: ('Connection aborted.', > RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response',)) > > During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", > line 113, in _get_response > response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, > **callback_kwargs) > File > "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/django/contrib/auth/decorators.py", > line 21, in _wrapped_view > return view_func(request, *args, **kwargs) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/postorius/auth/decorators.py", > line 38, in wrapper > return fn(*args, **kwargs) > File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/postorius/views/list.py", line > 943, in remove_role > roster = getattr(the_list, '{}s'.format(role)) > File > "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restobjects/mailinglist.py", line 86, in nonmembers > response, content = self._connection.call(url, data) > File > "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/connection.py", line 119, in call > raise MailmanConnectionError('Could not connect to Mailman API') > mailmanclient.restbase.connection.MailmanConnectionError: Could not > connect to Mailman API > ERROR 2020-04-09 20:35:51,509 19 django.request Service Unavailable: > /postorius/lists/scss-sysadmins.lists.scss.tcd.ie/remove/nonmember/skenny(a)scss.tcd.ie > ERROR 2020-04-09 20:35:51,509 19 django.request Service Unavailable: > /postorius/lists/scss-sysadmins.lists.scss.tcd.ie/remove/nonmember/skenny(a)scss.tcd.ie > > The file /opt/mailman-web-data/logs/uwsgi.log contains just one line: > > [pid: 19|app: 0|req: 82/96] 172.19.199.5 () {46 vars in 1233 bytes} > [Thu Apr 9 20:35:20 2020] GET > /postorius/lists/scss-sysadmins.lists.scss.tcd.ie/remove/nonmember/skenny(a)scss.tcd.ie => generated 5583 bytes in 31411 msecs (HTTP/1.0 503) 5 headers in 180 bytes (1 switches on core 0) > > > > > Can you try doing the same with the REST API, just to verify if it > is the Core which > > has the issue or it is the web frontend. > > Using the REST API, I can successfully remove a named nonmember from > the list. But I see the same pause-then-fail behaviour when I try to > simply list all the nonmembers. My snippet of code can happily > produce a listing of the members, but it gets stuck trying to list > nonmembers, and then 30 seconds later it crashes out with exactly the > same error messages as when I tried to delete a user in the web > interface (see above). My piece of code appears below (II invoke it > like this: > docker exec -it mailman-core bash -c 'python3 > /opt/mailman/local/probe.py scss-sysadmins(a)lists.scss.tcd.ie'). > > from mailmanclient import Client > from mailmanclient import MailingList > import sys > > my_list = str(sys.argv[1]) > client = Client('http://172.19.199.2:8001/3.0', 'restadmin', 'restpass') > this_list = client.get_list(my_list) > > print("\n\nMembers:\n-------------------------------------------------") > for i in this_list.members: > print(i) > > print("\nNonmembers:\n-------------------------------------------------") > for i in this_list.nonmembers: > print(i) > > Thanks again > Stephen > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ > -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

5 years, 6 months

Re: Handling of Mail from non-subscribers

by Mark Sapiro

On 5/8/20 4:42 PM, Peter Adebahr via Mailman-users wrote: > > I have a fresh setup of MM3 on Ubuntu 20, installed by apt-get. It seems > to be running fine so far, except for some (to me) strange behaviour: > > When posting to the list as a non-subscriber, I see the mail coming in > on mailman's smtp.log, then it vanishes. No notice of this mail being > hold is sent to the sender, no notice to the moderator, and logging into > Postorius as owner of the list, it is not showing up in "Held messages" > > "Hold for moderation" has been set. Set in "Default action to take when a non-member posts to the list"? If that is the case, find the non-member in Users -> Non-Members and look at the Non-member Options link. What is the "Administration options Moderation" setting? for that non-member? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 5 months

Re: Configuring the List-Archive and Archived-At headers

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/20/19 6:50 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 3/20/19 5:43 PM, Ralph Seichter wrote: >> With archiving enabled, mail is sent with headers like the following: >> >> Archived-At: <https://example.com/hyperkitty/list/foo-users@lists.example.com/message/ABC/> >> List-Archive: <https://example.com/hyperkitty/list/foo-users@lists.example.com/> >> List-Post: <mailto:foo-users@lists.example.com> >> List-Subscribe: <mailto:foo-users-join@lists.example.com> ... > What that means is the lists.example.com domain must first be known to > Django at <https://lists.example.com/admin/sites/site/ > > Then at https://lists.example.com/postorius/domains/, the Web Host for > the example.com domain needs to be lists.example.com I didn't look carefully enough at your example. If the mailto: links are @lists.example.com, then that is the Mail Host at https://lists.example.com/postorius/domains/ for which the Web Host needs to be lists.example.com. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 7 months

Re: Where do I find the bounced messages?

by Mark Sapiro

On 12/20/22 02:29, Sörös Zoltán wrote: > Greetings, > I am running several lists under mailman3. I am getting notifications > about users being put on nomail because of their bounces - but I can > find no way to actually see the bounced messages. > > Do mailman3 store the received bounces? Where? They are stored in the message store in the database but only temporarily. > Is there any setting to forward these bounces to the list owner? There are two relevant settings. These are exposed in Postorius -> Settings -> Bounce Processing. They are: Notify owner on bounce increment - sends a notice to the owner including the DSN when a user's bounce score is incremented, but to a value less than the bounce threshold. Notify owner on disable - sends a notice to the owner including the DSN when a member's subscription is automatically disabled due to the bounce threshold being reached. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

2 years, 10 months

Re: Mailman not able to process "big" requests

by Darren Smith

Our installation at https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com has around 33,000 lists and somewhere around 1.5 million members. We have lists with 5,000+ members. Note that I haven't tried any mass subscriptions. When we upgraded from mailman 2 to mailman 3, we used the old .pck files and ran the import on each of the lists. It did take about 6 weeks to do the full import all 33,000 lists. I'm not joking. As for sending messages - there isn't any problem sending that many messages out, but then we are also not trying to subscribe list members at the time. We are, though, in the process of importing the old archives from our old mailman 2 system. This doesn't seem to affect the rest of the system. We have seen some inefficiencies in the new system, such as the front page of postorius - loading all of the information for 200 lists (if the user set the "lists per page" to 200) was bringing down the system. We have our own metadata system to be able to search for lists by state/region/surname (ours is a genealogy mailing list system), so we had to replace the front page with our own "find a list" functionality. The other main problem was the page where a user can see what lists they subscribe to. That page was also a denial of service if the user had several hundred lists they are subscribed to. And for a genealogy mailing list system, this is common. We have actually ended up creating our own API layer (only accessible on the local machine) and make certain calls to it for the most painful of the issues. One of these days (when we get a moment to breathe) we are going to post some of our changes to the project so that we can ditch our own API and just use the internal REST API. To be fair, the inefficiencies are not necessarily with mailman or the rest API itself - but with Postorius making hundreds of calls to load a single page. Though if the API supported loading multiple lists at once instead of having to load them serially, that might help as well. So while we have not seen any timeout issues on the call to mass subscribe users, we HAVE found several other calls that are effectively a denial of service and have gotten around them ourselves, with plans to contribute to the project in the near future. -Darren On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 04/24/2018 12:36 AM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, at 10:41 PM, Jonas Felber wrote: > > >> We also have a problem with sending out emails to "large" (>50) groups, > >> as they seem to not getting sent out at all. Do you have any idea what > >> the problem here could be? > > > > Which MTA are you using? What do you see in mailman's logs and MTA's > logs? > > > > I haven't seen this kind of problem before with Mailman 3. This very > list is hosted using Mailman 3 and I believe has more than 50 subscribers. > > > Nor have I seen this issue. This list currently has 158 non-digest > members. There are several @python.org Mailman 3 lists with over 100 > non-digest members including the active yt-users(a)python.org list with > 301 members, and I have gotten no reports of an issue like this. > > Also, there are over 600 lists at <https://lists.fedoraproject.org/>, > and I don't think this is an issue there either. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list > mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >

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