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Re: FW: You have been invited to join the ssan@lists.ccalternatives.org mailing list.

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/9/25 07:07, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote: > The template is named list:user:action:invite. You can create it either > from Postorius or on the filesystem at > /opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/lists/LISTNAME/en/list:user:action:invite.txt Given the age of the OP's system (see https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message…) I suspect it's a Debian/Ubuntu package or perhaps another package and it's unlikely that Mailman's var/ directory is /opt/mailman/mm/var/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

7 months, 2 weeks

Re: Migrating to Mailman3

by Dennis Putnam

On 10/17/2025 3:09 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > dap1--- via Mailman-users writes: > > > I am about to migrate from mailma2 on CentOS to mailman3 on > > Ubuntu. Are there any special gotchas of which I need to be aware? > > TIA. > > * The Ubuntu packages are old, and not well-supported by Ubuntu or the > Mailman project. Mailman 3 is not a hyperactive project, but we are > making steady progress and many new Mailman 3 users have issues or > requests for enhancement for 2-, 3-year-old packages that have been > fixed or implemented in the most recent releases. For these reasons, > we strongly recommend installing from source or from PyPI in a virtual > environment: > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#virtualenv-inst… > (Installing from source is not hard, but it's more work than using > pre-built packages. Source is required for beta testers and > developers, but not recommended for most production environments.) > > * If your preferred RDBMS is in the MySQL family: > 1. Make sure the Mailman database(s) have the utf8mb4 charset option > set. Otherwise all emoji and some Asian characters will cause > your database to throw errors (I think this is mostly an issue for > HyperKitty and maybe a few users who put them in their display > names in Postorius and Mailman core). This is not needed for > PostgreSQL or SQLite3. > 2. You may want to increase the timeout for startup (I think this is > in the systemd units for mailman and mailmanweb). The issue is > that the mysqld doesn't exit until the journal has been flushed to > the main database (or something like that), and this may take many > seconds. This is not an issue for SQLite3 (it's a library) or > PostgreSQL (it uses dbus to notify systemd that it's ready). > > * The migration scripts for list database and web databases are quite > good, but not 100%. > > * The user model is completely different. Ordinary subscribers will > probably be happy or won't notice, but there are some traps for > administration roles. The most important is that some list owners > will give the owner password to moderators so they can do work like > use mass subscribe, but put them on the moderator list attribute so > they get the moderation notices. These moderators will lose the > "owner" capabilities like mass subscribe. > > * If you're looking at a multinode installation with Mailman core, > Postorius and HyperKitty distributed across several hosts or > containers, configuration can be finicky. I don't recommend it unless > you're familiar with such distributed operations. > > Steve > Hi Steve, Thanks for the info. I thought I had followed everything but I an unable to start mailman3 because all the expected directories in /var are missing. What steps did I miss? The instructions are a bit confusing because I had to keep switching between mailman and admin for setting up various files such as /etc/mailman3. There was no step to make mailman a sudoers. I hope I didn't mess up the installation by switching back and forth.

3 months, 1 week

Re: Custom templates (was: Re: Re: nginx configuration on a multitasking server)

by Mark Sapiro

On 1/14/22 11:56 AM, David Newman wrote: > > I created a pending subscription request on a test list. Here is the > text I'm using in a file called 'list:admin:action:subscribe.txt' (minus > the rows of hypens): > > ---------- > > > As list administrator, your authorization is required for a mailing list > subscription request approval: > > For: $member > List: $listname > > At your convenience, visit: > > https://${domain}/mailman/admindb/lists/${short_listname}.${domain}/ This looks like a Mailman 2.1 URL. Are you sure you don't want something like https://${domain}/mailman3/lists/${short_listname}.${domain}/ > > to approve or deny the request. > > ---------- > > Instead the message that goes out at midnight daily reads like this: That's a different message. It is sent from the `mailman notify` command run by cron. It's built from the list:admin:notice:pending template. > > On successive nights I have placed copies of the > 'list:admin:action:subscribe.txt' file above in these locations: > > mm/var/templates/lists/test.lists.domain.tld/en I hope you mean /opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/lists/test.lists.domain.tld/en > /opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/site/en Either of those should work. The lists one will take priority over the site one for that list. > and then in Postorius, with the same contents as above. If you set a template in Postorius, it takes priority. If you later decide you want to use one in /opt/mailman/mm/var/templates/ you have to delete the postorius one. > The file > versions are owned by the mailman user, and have 0644 permissions. Not > sure this is necessary but I've restarted the mailman3 and mailmanweb > services each time after a change. > > There is no sign of trouble in the MM3 or web logs. The only thing I see > is in the Postfix log, where the shorter and less helpful message goes > out each night. I don't see anything in the template docs about this. > > Questions: > > 1. What to do to get the custom message working? It should work. I suspect you need to go to the list's Settings -> Automatic Responses and set `Admin immed notify` to Yes. > 2. Is there a way to trigger a subscribe reminder for one list only? If by subscribe reminder you mean the `list:admin:action:subscribe.txt` message, yes that's the above list setting. If you mean the one sent from the `mailman notify` command, see `mailman notify --help` for the options. You can specify one or more lists (default is all lists) via options and put them in your cron. > Asking because there are other lists on this server with other requests > pending, and I don't want to bother other moderators with multiple > reminders per day. Not a big deal, but it would be nice to test this > with one list rather than waiting up to 24 hours after each change. You can test `mailman notify` at any time by running it by hand. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

4 years

Re: List Migration from MM2.1 -> MM3

by Odhiambo Washington

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 4:59 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 8/15/22 06:53, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > That is exactly what I have in my mailman.cfg > > > > Installing Postfix suppresses that message though. I installed Postfix > and > > then disabled it. > > > > > Your /opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/mailman is talking to a different Mailman > core than the one reading that mailman.cfg and the one Postorius is > talking to. > How can I track the one it's talking to? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)

3 years, 5 months

Re: mailman3 vs postfix

by Ralf Wiegand

Mark - I have a hard time following this. /path/to/where/your/settings/are located what settings? what do I am looking for? cd /opt/mailman # all mailman applications are under /opt/mailman ls django-mailman3 hyperkitty mailman mailmanclient mailman-hyperkitty mailman-suite postorius venv-3.6 settings.py? /opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project? I do not understand??? Ralf On 4/28/20 3:59 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 4/28/20 12:42 PM, Ralf Wiegand wrote: >> (venv-3.6) [root@empire mailman]# django-admin createsuperuser >> No Django settings specified. > > In that case, you need to specify additional options: > > --pythonpath /path/to/where/your/settings/are located > --settings name_of_your_settings_file_without_the_.py > > e.g. something like > > django-admin --pythonpath /usr/share/mailman3-web \ > --settings settings createsuperuser > >

5 years, 9 months

Re: list of subscribers

by Peter Münster

On Sun, Feb 04 2018, Simon Hanna wrote: > You should be able to use mailmanclient to get a list of subscribers with > names. It seems, that mailmanclient does not know about the real name (the first name and the last name in Django). But this seems to work: from django.contrib.auth.models import User user = User.objects.get(email='address(a)of.user') print(user.first_name) print(user.last_name) So, I'll try to make some loop over a list with email addresses, that I can get on the web interface. > Names are optional though, if people signup without them you won't be able to > get them. My usage of mailman is perhaps a bit special: users can't sign up, only the site owner signs up manually with create_user(email=, first_name=...) Then the site owner creates the mailing lists and uses mass subscription (for example all members of a basketball team). At one moment, the list of subscribers should be verified by all members, just to be sure, that nobody got forgotten. > Currently there is no option to require names. I'll open an issue in > postorius about showing the name in the member list if there is one > associated. Thanks. It would be nice, to see the first_name and the last_name of the django-auth user object. > IIRC one person(postorius account) can also signup at different lists using > different names (regardless of address). You mean the "display_name" of mailmanclient here? I won't use it. For my usage, I prefer a clear association of email, first name and last name in one account, no need for "display_name" here. > There was some discussion about names and potentially using the from header to > populate the database but I don't remember the result... Nice idea, especially for the normal use case, the public mailing list (but not for mine). Off topic: I have "Receive own postings = Yes", but I don't receive copies of my postings to this list... Kind regards, -- Peter

7 years, 11 months

Re: Hyperkitty Authorization Required

by Mark Sapiro

On 6/6/19 5:52 AM, andrew.bernard(a)gmail.com wrote: > Nearly there configuring my first Mailman 3 installation with Postorius and Hyperkiity. This issue eludes me: > > When trying to start a new thread in the archive, we have: > > HyperKitty failure on https://list.jackrail.org/hyperkitty/api/mailman/archive: <html><title>Auth required</title><body> > <h1>Authorization Required</h1></body></html> (401) > > I can access this URL just fine" > > https://list.jackrail.org/hyperkitty/api/ > > Where do we look to solve this issue? You have to be logged in to post from HyperKitty. You can't post anonymously. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

6 years, 7 months

how to become member of mailman-users list

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Shashikanth Komandoor writes: > One of my colleagues is trying to become a member of the > mailman-users list but she is not able to become so even after sending > multiple emails to the list. Your colleague needs to either sign up via Postorius at https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ or send mail to mailman-users-subscribe(a)mailman3.org to subscribe. She then needs to respond to the mail that the system sends her by visiting the URL in that mail. Without a subscription, mail to the list will be discarded silently, I believe. Once her subscription is active, her first post will be held for moderation. After that, help posts will be unmoderated. Steve

4 years, 4 months

Website 404 error

by peter＠pi4cc.nl

Hello I'm running Debian 12 with the latest version and installed mailman3 via apt install-mailman3-full. Everything works, I'm using MySQL as the database. There's something strange, and I can't find a source/solution. When I first access the website domain.nl/mailman3, it's redirected to domain.nl/mailman/postorius/lists/, resulting in a 404 error (3 after mailman is missing). When I accessed it a second time with the same link (domain.nl/mailman3), I was redirected to domain.nl/mailman3/postorius/lists and the welcome page appeared. This is strange... I tested it on a mobile device with Chrome and Firefox, and on a desktop with Chrome and Edge. All the results were the same. Is there a specific file to look add? Regards, Peter

5 months, 2 weeks

Re: bounce handling in mm3 available?

by Stefan Bauer

Hi Mark, thank you. We are running 3.1.1-9. So to get you right, this version only records the bounces in database and nothing more? No disabling of users etc. Stefan Am Mo., 24. Jan. 2022 um 23:32 Uhr schrieb Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net>: > On 1/24/22 05:20, Stefan Bauer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > what happens with bounce-mails that are processed by mailmans postfix > > instance? > > > What Mailman core version? Prior to 3.3.1, bounce events were recorded > in the bounceevent table but not otherwise processed. Subsequent to > that, they are scored if recognized and what notices are sent depends on > list settings. > > > > Jan 24 10:46:03 l01 postfix/lmtp[8432]: DF4AE600623: > > to=<company-newsletter-bounces(a)lists.company.tld>, > > relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.03, delays=0.01/0.01/0/0.01, > > dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) > > > > But the list-owner does not get any notification, nor do i see any > > bounce-information in the pistorious-gui. > > What are you expecting to see in Postorius? All you can see is if a > member's delivery status is Disabled by Bounces. Things like Bounce > score are not available in Postorius. > > What notices are sent depends on the settings in the Bounce Processing > section in Postorius. For example, if your message logged by postfix was > spam to the <company-newsletter-bounces(a)lists.company.tld> address that > is not recognized as a DSN and `Forward unrecognized bounces` is > Discard, the message will be silently discarded. > > Also, if that message was a non-fatal, message-delayed type of DSN, it > will be ignored. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)mailman3.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)mailman3.org > https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ >

4 years

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