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Re: How to remove a nonmember from a list

by skenny＠scss.tcd.ie

Abhilash Raj wrote: > Could be, I am not sure which operation is it stuck at. Can you check logs to see > where is it breaking? Sure. I'm doing all this under Docker; below is what I see in /opt/mailman-web-data/logs/mailmanweb.log when I try to delete a nonmember via the web interface. Thediagnostics appear 30 seconds after I click on 'delete': ERROR 2020-04-09 20:35:51,482 19 postorius.middleware Mailman REST API not available Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 672, in urlopen chunked=chunked, File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 421, in _make_request six.raise_from(e, None) File "<string>", line 3, in raise_from File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 416, in _make_request httplib_response = conn.getresponse() File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 1346, in getresponse response.begin() File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 307, in begin version, status, reason = self._read_status() File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 276, in _read_status raise RemoteDisconnected("Remote end closed connection without" http.client.RemoteDisconnected: Remote end closed connection without response During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 449, in send timeout=timeout File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 720, in urlopen method, url, error=e, _pool=self, _stacktrace=sys.exc_info()[2] File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 400, in increment raise six.reraise(type(error), error, _stacktrace) File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/packages/six.py", line 734, in reraise raise value.with_traceback(tb) File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 672, in urlopen chunked=chunked, File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 421, in _make_request six.raise_from(e, None) File "<string>", line 3, in raise_from File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 416, in _make_request httplib_response = conn.getresponse() File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 1346, in getresponse response.begin() File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 307, in begin version, status, reason = self._read_status() File "/usr/lib/python3.6/http/client.py", line 276, in _read_status raise RemoteDisconnected("Remote end closed connection without" urllib3.exceptions.ProtocolError: ('Connection aborted.', RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response',)) During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/connection.py", line 96, in call headers=headers) File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 60, in request return session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 533, in request resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 646, in send r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 498, in send raise ConnectionError(err, request=request) requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: ('Connection aborted.', RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response',)) During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 113, in _get_response response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/django/contrib/auth/decorators.py", line 21, in _wrapped_view return view_func(request, *args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/postorius/auth/decorators.py", line 38, in wrapper return fn(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/postorius/views/list.py", line 943, in remove_role roster = getattr(the_list, '{}s'.format(role)) File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restobjects/mailinglist.py", line 86, in nonmembers response, content = self._connection.call(url, data) File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/connection.py", line 119, in call raise MailmanConnectionError('Could not connect to Mailman API') mailmanclient.restbase.connection.MailmanConnectionError: Could not connect to Mailman API ERROR 2020-04-09 20:35:51,509 19 django.request Service Unavailable: /postorius/lists/scss-sysadmins.lists.scss.tcd.ie/remove/nonmember/skenny(a)scss.tcd.ie ERROR 2020-04-09 20:35:51,509 19 django.request Service Unavailable: /postorius/lists/scss-sysadmins.lists.scss.tcd.ie/remove/nonmember/skenny(a)scss.tcd.ie The file /opt/mailman-web-data/logs/uwsgi.log contains just one line: [pid: 19|app: 0|req: 82/96] 172.19.199.5 () {46 vars in 1233 bytes} [Thu Apr 9 20:35:20 2020] GET /postorius/lists/scss-sysadmins.lists.scss.tcd.ie/remove/nonmember/skenny(a)scss.tcd.ie => generated 5583 bytes in 31411 msecs (HTTP/1.0 503) 5 headers in 180 bytes (1 switches on core 0) > Can you try doing the same with the REST API, just to verify if it is the Core which > has the issue or it is the web frontend. Using the REST API, I can successfully remove a named nonmember from the list. But I see the same pause-then-fail behaviour when I try to simply list all the nonmembers. My snippet of code can happily produce a listing of the members, but it gets stuck trying to list nonmembers, and then 30 seconds later it crashes out with exactly the same error messages as when I tried to delete a user in the web interface (see above). My piece of code appears below (II invoke it like this: docker exec -it mailman-core bash -c 'python3 /opt/mailman/local/probe.py scss-sysadmins(a)lists.scss.tcd.ie'). from mailmanclient import Client from mailmanclient import MailingList import sys my_list = str(sys.argv[1]) client = Client('http://172.19.199.2:8001/3.0', 'restadmin', 'restpass') this_list = client.get_list(my_list) print("\n\nMembers:\n-------------------------------------------------") for i in this_list.members: print(i) print("\nNonmembers:\n-------------------------------------------------") for i in this_list.nonmembers: print(i) Thanks again Stephen

6 years, 3 months

Re: Template path

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/17/20 9:33 AM, Seth Seeger wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I’m running Mailman from Docker containers, without much customization. (Postorius 1.3.3, Core 3.3.1, API 3.1, Python 3.8.5). I’ve created a list:user:notice:welcome template, and when I try to confirm a subscription, I get an error. > > I followed previous emails on this list which told me to set POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL in /opt/mailman/web/settings_local.py, but that doesn’t seem to make any difference. (I set it to a different value and the error message didn’t change. I also tried setting it in /opt/mailman/core/settings_local.py to no effect. After each change, I restarted mailman-web and mailman-core containers.) How did you create the template? In Postorius or by manually creating a file somewhere? If by creating a file, POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL is not relevant, but ensure that the file is findable and readable by Mailman. > From within mailman-web and mailman-core containers, I can reach “mailman-web:8000”. > > In the webpage, I see: Mailman REST API not available. Please start Mailman core. The REST APT is normally exposed on port 8001, not 8000 (See `port` in `mailman conf -s webservice`. What is your setting for MAILMAN_REST_API_URL? does the port match? > In /opt/mailman/core/var/logs/mailman.log, I get: > > [17/Sep/2020:16:23:29 +0000] "GET /3.1/lists/xxx.example.com HTTP/1.1" 200 416 "-" "GNU Mailman REST client v3.3.1" It appears you are connecting to the REST API, but ... ... > urllib3.exceptions.ReadTimeoutError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='mailman-web', port=8000): Read timed out. (read timeout=5) Something appears to be trying to connect to REST on port 8000 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

5 years, 10 months

Re: Default values for lists in Mailman 3

by Mark Sapiro

On 9/30/24 02:17, Markus Grandpré wrote: > Dear Mark, dear list, > > in Menu "Mass Operations / Mass Subscription" I have set the default > value for checkbox "Invitation" in file > </usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/postorius/forms/list_forms.py> (on > Debian 12) as you had suggested: > > > invitation = forms.BooleanField( > label=_('Invitation'), > initial=True, > required=False, > help_text=_( > 'If checked, the other checkboxes are ignored and the users > will ' > 'be sent an invitation to join the list and will be > subscribed ' > 'upon acceptance thereof.' > ), > widget=forms.CheckboxInput(), > ) This is correct. > However, administrators of mailing lists on our Mailman3 demo system > report that the invitation is still sent, even if they have deactivated > the sending of the invitation via the “Invitation” checkbox. If the admin is unchecking the Invitation box but not checking the Pre Verified box, the user will still be sent an address confirmation request. Perhaps the admins are mistaking this for an invitation. It the desire is to immediately subscribe the user with no further interaction, in addition to the Invitation box being unchecked, all three of the Pre confirm, Pre approved and Pre verified boxes must be checked. You may wish to set the Pre Verified default to checked in a manner similar to the above, or with Postorius >=1.3.14 (not yet released) you will be able to add ``` POSTORIUS_DEFAULTS = { 'mass_subscription_pre_verify': True } ``` to your Django settings to accomplish this. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 year, 10 months

Re: Apache+mod_wsgi issue

by Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7)

El 26/12/22 a las 16:08, Odhiambo Washington escribió: > On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:07 PM Eggert Ehmke<eggert(a)eehmke.de> wrote: Odhiambo, I didn't change anything from my config as I wrote down in https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/mailman-3.61050/post-488128, save the python version (I upgraded to 3.9 moths ago, as I posted in this list). My urls.py looks like this: ################### from django.conf import settings ### mod. 30/10/22 ###from django.conf.urls import include, url from django.conf.urls import include from django.urls import re_path as url ##### from django.contrib import admin from django.urls import reverse_lazy from django.views.generic import RedirectView urlpatterns = [ url(r'^$', RedirectView.as_view( url=reverse_lazy('list_index'), permanent=True)), url(r'^postorius/', include('postorius.urls')), url(r'^hyperkitty/', include('hyperkitty.urls')), url(r'', include('django_mailman3.urls')), url(r'^accounts/', include('allauth.urls')), # Django admin url(r'^admin/', admin.site.urls), url(r'^mailman3/', include('postorius.urls')), url(r'^archives/', include('hyperkitty.urls')), ] >> Ok, >> >> I hope this is readable. I just copíed the content of some files into the >> pastebin, don't know if it is possible to post tar.gz there. >> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/mmRJJwKDc3/ >> >> Just tell me if this works for you, and when something is missing. >> Most of the settings are copied from some other sites and just adjusted >> for my >> needs. >> Good luck! > > So it seems your WSGIDaemonProcess is defined somewhere outside the VHOST, > right? Or it wasn't necessary? > And what does your urls.py look like? > > My setup is PUBLIC for everyone so I will not hide the domain name :-) > > In my setup, MM3 is installed in /opt/mailman/mm/. and mod_wsgi is enabled > in Apache. > I am running uwsgi on a TCP socket, not unix socket. > > The whole of my *VHOST:* > <CUT> > WSGIDaemonProcess mailman-web display-name=mailman-web > maximum-requests=1000 umask=0002 user=mailman group=mailman > python-path=/opt/mailman/mm:/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages:/opt/mailman/mm/venv/lib/python3.9 > python-home=/opt/mailman/mm/venv home=/opt/mailman/mm/var > WSGIRestrictSignal Off > <VirtualHost *:443> > ServerName mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke > > SSLEngine on > SSLCertificateFile "/usr/local/etc/letsencrypt/live/ > mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/cert.pem" > SSLCertificateKeyFile "/usr/local/etc/letsencrypt/live/ > mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/privkey.pem" > SSLCertificateChainFile "/usr/local/etc/letsencrypt/live/ > mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/chain.pem" > CustomLog /var/log/mm3-lists-access.log combined > ErrorLog /var/log/mm3-lists-error.log > LogLevel info > Alias /favicon.ico /opt/mailman/mm/static/hyperkitty/img/favicon.ico > Alias /static "/opt/mailman/mm/static" > <Directory "/opt/mailman/mm/static"> > Require all granted > </Directory> > WSGIScriptAlias / /opt/mailman/mm/wsgi.py > <Directory "/opt/mailman/mm/"> > <Files wsgi.py> > Order deny,allow > Allow from all > Require all granted > </Files> > WSGIProcessGroup mailman-web > </Directory> > </VirtualHost> > </CUT> > > *2. uwsgi.ini:* > <CUT> > [uwsgi] > http-socket = 127.0.0.1:8000 > pidfile = /opt/mailman/mm/var/uwsgi.pid > chdir = /opt/mailman/mm/ > virtualenv = /opt/mailman/mm/venv/ > module=mailman_web.wsgi:application > env =PYTHONPATH=/opt/mailman/mm/ > env =DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE=settings > master = true > process = 2 > threads = 2 > attach-daemon = /opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/mailman-web qcluster > req-logger =file:/opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/uwsgi.log > logger = qclusterfile:/opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/uwsgi-qcluster.log > log-route = qcluster uwsgi-daemons > logger = cronfile://opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/uwsgi-cron.log > log-route = cron uwsgi-cron > logger =file:/opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/uwsgi-error.log > uid = mailman > gid = mailman > </CUT> > > *3. uwsgi - *Running supervised (supervisord): > <CUT> > [program:uwsgi] > directory=/opt/mailman/mm/ > environment=PYTHONPATH=/opt/mailman/mm/ > command=/usr/bin/su -m mailman -c '/opt/mailman/mm/venv/bin/uwsgi --ini > /opt/mailman/mm/uwsgi.ini' 2>&1 | logger -t uwsgi > autostart=true > autorestart=true > user=mailman > group=mailman > stopasgroup=true > killasgroup=true > </CUT> > > *4. urls.py*: > <CUT> > from django.conf.urls import include > from django.urls import re_path > from django.contrib import admin > from django.urls import reverse_lazy > from django.views.generic import RedirectView > from django_mailman3.views.profile import delete_account, user_profile > urlpatterns = [ > re_path(r'^$', RedirectView.as_view( > url=reverse_lazy('list_index'), > permanent=True)), > re_path(r'^postorius/', include('postorius.urls')), > re_path(r'^hyperkitty/', include('hyperkitty.urls')), > re_path(r'^user-profile/delete$', delete_account, > name='mm_user_account_delete'), > re_path(r'^user-profile/$', user_profile, name='mm_user_profile'), > re_path(r'^accounts/', include('allauth.urls')), > re_path(r'^admin/', admin.site.urls), > re_path(r'^mm/', include('postorius.urls')), > re_path(r'^archives/', include('hyperkitty.urls')), > ] > </CUT> > > And that's pretty much what I am using on my FreeBSD server. > > > PS: Possible to bottom-post instead of top-posting? :) > -- ___________________________________________ Mailman's content filtering has removed the following MIME parts from this message. 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3 years, 7 months

Re: One-click unsubscribe?

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Jered Floyd writes: > > I guess it would be a matter of keeping 2 tokens in the database. > > In the case we sign/encrypt a tuple of (list, subscriber, > timestamp) we don't need to store anything in the database. True, but I'm concerned with the computation cost of validation. That shouldn't matter ordinarily, legit unsubscribes will be rare, but it could be a vulnerability to a DOS attack. > Option 1: signed/encrypted tuple (list, subscriber, timestamp) > Option 2: UUID referencing a unique subscription in the database > > Sounds like you are favoring the 2nd option? Yes, with explicit timestamp. The concerned party has knowledge of the first two. None of that is anybody else's business. Nerds like me would be pleased to be told the third component, and if expiration times are going to be "several months" as you suggested, I figure they should last as long as the signing key does. > RFC 8058 doesn't specify response codes or really any behavior in > response to the POST request. The user never sees this interaction. Probably not. It's a little surprising that they said almost nothing (except some dark mutterings about hints that the address is valid). Maybe it's not necessary. If the list wants to they can provide a goodbye message, and if it fails the subscriber will get a valid token. :-) I just think it would be kind of rude not to give a response in the case of an expired token, because the subscriber did everything right as far as they can see. > On the other hand, in Postorius we probably want to support a GET > interaction against the same URI which provides a page with a > button that generates the equivalent POST. I don't think so. We can already put the list and address in the footer's unsubscribe link.[1] That would likely involve a login interaction.[2] The token alone wouldn't be sufficient credentials, because the footer is extremely likely to leak into public spaces. > Incidentally, I imagine 8058 defines this as a POST interaction to > avoid the mail-scanner issue we talked about last message. Ah, good point. I've worked with John Levine, he's that smart and definitely that WG is that smart. > Ah, to be outside the US, where the concept of consumer protections > still exists... Lina Khan lives! Footnotes: [1] Of course this would require changing GET processing of the unsubscribe link, it doesn't work that way now. But this should be a separate feature from RFC 8058 processing. [2] If the user has a Postorius session active, they'll be whisked on through. But most users won't. -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan

8 months

Customizing Postorios web templates

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Stefan Bethke writes: > I have two list servers that I would like customize the web pages > for, specifically I need to add some legal information to the > footer, and I might want to apply some light branding to the > site. I can't find any hints on how to do that, maybe I'm looking > in the wrong place? Postorius is a Django application. There are copious docs on djangoproject.com. We really don't want to duplicate the upstream project's documentation, especially since our downstream (ie, OS distros) are likely to have various different versions of Django installed in their packages. The basic procedure is to add a local template path (I use /etc/mailman3/templates) early in Django's template path in /etc/mailman3/settings.py. Then copy any templates you want to modify to the right place in that local template hierarchy and modify them there. > If Postorious does not currently allow that outright, It does, there's no need to vendor Postorius. > If so, would there be interest in adding a feature to define some > blocks that can be overridden more easily, Don't think this approach is better than overriding base.html if you want sitewide legal and branding. It would be more appealing if it were list-specific. It might be slightly more convenient, but you still need to create the local template hierarchy. On the other hand, it would increase the documentation burden. And for obvious reasons we don't want to make it too easy to replace our own branding. Steve -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan

5 months, 2 weeks

mailman-web: ResponseNotReady

by Dmitry Makovey

We've had an odd experience with mailman3 containers: ERROR 2017-10-18 15:47:09,448 60 django.request Internal Server Error: /postorius/lists/ Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py", line 39, in inner response = get_response(request) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 249, in _legacy_get_response response = self._get_response(request) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 187, in _get_response response = self.process_exception_by_middleware(e, request) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 185, in _get_response response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/postorius/views/list.py", line 590, in list_index choosable_domains = _get_choosable_domains(request) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/postorius/views/list.py", line 524, in _get_choosable_domains return [(d.mail_host, d.mail_host) for d in domains] File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mailmanclient/_client.py", line 217, in __getattr__ return self._get(name) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mailmanclient/_client.py", line 183, in _get return self.rest_data.get(key) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mailmanclient/_client.py", line 172, in rest_data response, content = self._connection.call(self._url) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mailmanclient/_client.py", line 109, in call response, content = Http().request(url, method, data_str, headers) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/httplib2/__init__.py", line 1659, in request (response, content) = self._request(conn, authority, uri, request_uri, method, body, headers, redirections, cachekey) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/httplib2/__init__.py", line 1399, in _request (response, content) = self._conn_request(conn, request_uri, method, body, headers) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/httplib2/__init__.py", line 1355, in _conn_request response = conn.getresponse() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/httplib.py", line 1108, in getresponse raise ResponseNotReady() ResponseNotReady It seems like mailman-core is still operating properly, but for some reason mailman-web is not. Can I reset mailman-web somehow to re-initiate? -- Sr System and DevOps Engineer SoM IRT

8 years, 9 months

Problems with mailman core translation and other details

by celi＠dieese.org.br

Hi. We did a fresh install of the Debian Mailman 3 full package. I'd like all components to be translated into pt_BR. I downloaded the latest updated translations from weblate, which says that 100% of the project (all components) are translated. I checked and recompiled mailman.po with msgfmt without errors. I followed all instructions I saw, included the ones from the topic How to change the language in mailman3 in this list. Everything almost OK, except from the fact that none of mailman's core email messages are being translated, even though mailman.po shows the right messages. Also, strange things happen to these .po files. The web interface is almost perfect, but some messages (just some) are not correct - although the corresponding django.po appears to be OK. It´s the case below: the pair msgid/msgstr seems to be OK, but this particular sentence is not being translated. #: templates/postorius/lists/summary.html:88 #, python-format msgid "" "\n" " To subscribe you can send an email with 'subscribe' in the " "subject to\n" " <a href=\"mailto:%(address)s?subject=Subscribe\">" "%(address)s</a>\n" " or use the form below:\n" " " msgstr "" "\n" " Para se inscrever você pode enviar um e-mail com o assunto " "'subscribe' para\n" " <a href=\"mailto:%(address)s?subject=Subscribe\">" "%(address)s</a>\n" " ou use o formulário abaixo:\n" What am I doing wrong? Or what can I do to make things suitable? Additional info: GNU Mailman 3.3.3 (Tom Sawyer) Python 3.9.2 (default, Feb 28 2021, 17:03:44) [GCC 10.2.1 20210110] Postorius v. 1.3.4 HyperKitty v. 1.3.4 Thanx for any help

2 years, 6 months

Re: Incorrect error log message in OutgoingRunner._dispose()

by Mark Sapiro

On April 25, 2026 10:27:06 PM GMT+02:00, Craig Leres via Mailman-users <mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > >One feature the existing mailman 2 lists uses that I can't get working with mailman 3 are templates. After using "mailman import21" I found files with names such as list:member:regular:footer.txt in the list tree. However they were ignored so I removed them I tried tried creating a template using the web postorius gui. When a message is injected, I see an error log from the out runner: Did you by chance run import21 as root or another non-mailman user resulting in template files unreadable by Mailman? > Apr 25 12:32:22 2026 (82977) Cannot connect to SMTP server 127.0.0.1 on port 25 This is a well known issue. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/work_items/582> and related issues referenced therein. >Following the error message, the out runner goes cpu bound, creating and deleting queue files in queue/out with .pck and .bak extensions, very quickly. > >I updated the code to print the exception and it tells a completely different story: > > Apr 25 12:38:15 2026 (83339) Cannot connect to SMTP server 127.0.0.1 on port 25 (HTTPConnectionPool(host='localhost', port=8000): Max retries exceeded with url: /api/templates/list/test.example.com/list:member:regular:footer (Caused by NewConnectionError("HTTPConnection(host='localhost', port=8000): Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 61] Connection refused"))) > >I'm using the default webservice port (8001) so I would not expect anything to ever be listening on 8000. The default web service port (Postorius and HyperKitty) is 8000. Port 8001 is Mailman core's rest api. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

3 months, 1 week

Mailmanweb RAM Usage

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users writes: > Using the uwsgi.ini from the virtualenv method documentation, > mailmanweb is constantly using 2GB RAM on my server. Do you mean only HyperKitty + Postorius? That seems like a lot. My experience is that even on an insanely heavily loaded server (20k+ lists) the whole suite uses about 2.0G. Since on that server, Mailman core was forking 22 processes at ~83MB each (very little shared, not sure the technical reason for that, maybe the Python heap just can't be shared?), core was taking up about 1.8G. HyperKitty and Postorius took a little more (I don't recall exactly, maybe 250MB?) My more standard setup (that one had like 2 IN queue slices and 8 OUT queue slices) I ran Mailman suite + PostgreSQL (dedicated to Mailman) + Postfix + nginx (also mostly dedicated to Mailman) + Cyrus IMAPd in a nominal 2GB Digital Ocean droplet. It didn't run "comfortably", adding any serious load that chewed up 100s of MB RAM would get things OOM-killed, but 2GB total (including kernel and all) was barely enough for that system in normal situations. > My database (MariaDB) size is 2GB. Do you mean in memory or on disk? Either way that should have ~0 effect on the size of the Mailman core and web processes. > Is this expected? Depends on if you mean exactly what you said ("mailmanweb"). If so, no, I would expect mailmanweb (only) to run in 500MB easily and probably be OK in 250MB. If you mean "when I start Mailman and mailmanweb, memory usage jumps by about 2GB", then yes, that's what I'd expect. -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan

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