Search results for "Postorius" - Mailman-users

Re: Problem with redirection when entering alias without a / at the end

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/19/21 2:55 PM, Jens Günther wrote: > > When I want to get to Mailman Starting Page now I need to Enter the > following URL: https://mailman.xyz.de/mailman3/ to be directly > redirected as expected to > https://mailman.xyz.de/mailman3/postorius/lists/ -> works. > > Problem: When leave out the slash at the end and I ONLY enter the > following URL: https://mailman.xyz.de/mailman3 -> then I'm wrongly > redirected to a page, taht does not exist: > https://mailman.xyz.de/mailman/postorius/lists/ -> 404 Huh? that is the same URL as the one above that you say works. Do you mean https://mailman.xyz.de/mailman/postorius/lists without the slash or what. > Where can I change this misbehaviour? In Apache-conf everything seems as > it'S in the docs, for the vHost I do not have any other custom settings. What is the exact content of your RedirectMatch or ReweriteRule or whatebver you are using? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 8 months

Re: mailman3 postorius cannot retrieve template

by Mark Dadgar

On Nov 4, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Andreas Barth <aba(a)ayous.org> wrote: > * Quanah Gibson-Mount (quanah(a)symas.com) [211104 22:59]: >> >> >> --On Thursday, November 4, 2021 8:25 AM -0700 Mark Sapiro >> <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >> >>> On 11/4/21 5:04 AM, Wolfgang Bock via Mailman-users wrote: >>>> >>>> My conclusion: >>>> I ask you to consider these experiences in an update for the mailman3 >>>> packages in debian bullseye. It would save time, questions and nerves. >>> >>> >>> Issues with Debian packaging should be directed to Debian. >> >> Or as previously discussed, the debian packages should be avoided entirely. > > I strongly disagree with that statement. > > Distribution packages have their own up- and downsides. Of course, how > they are done is to be discussed with the distribution, so: if > something is wrong with a debian package, please follow the > instructions on bugs.debian.org on reporting bugs. > > However, they have the advantage that they're integrated with the > distribution. They have the disadvantage that they're stable for some > time - that is why it's called a stable release. If they have all the > features someone wants, they usually work fine (and my first > mm3-installation was the default debian package). If one looks for > bleeding edge, of course that's not what one can expect from a > distribution package - but that's also a feature. You left out the fact that the distro edition of mailman3 has very poor support because Debian doesn’t know how to do it and the setup is different enough from vanilla that this community has a hard time supporting it as well. You can certainly try to run it, but I’m willing to bet that you’ll regret it. Having tried it myself, I can’t in good conscience recommend it to anyone. The bottom line is that, IMHO, distro works great for fairly mature projects. MM3 isn’t that yet. YMMV, my $0.02, you get what you pay for, etc. - Mark ----- mark(a)pdc-racing.net | 408-348-2878

3 years

Re: Footer from templates not working - DB issue?

by Hans Mayer

Hi Mark, many thanks for this hint. I updated table "template" and replaced "localhost" with the real name and it worked. // Hans -- On 25.09.22 19:28, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 9/25/22 05:26, mailman--- via Mailman-users wrote: >> Dear All, >> I have a similar issue. Also on Debian 11. Also installed as Debian >> PKG. It's version GNU Mailman 3.3.3 (Tom Sawyer) >> I am using sqlite3. When I do the SQL-query I get an URI which is in >> multiple reasons wrong >> http://localhost/mailman3/postorius/api/templates/list/....../list:member:r… >> > > The initial part of that URL is set from the Django setting > `POSTORIUS_TEMPLATE_BASE_URL`. If that is set to > `http://localhost/mailman3/`, it should probably be just > `http://localhost/`. > > >> OK - the hostname could be changed but the path is not existing at all. >> There is no file "list:member:regular:footer" on the complete >> filesystem. > > It's not a file. It refers to an entry in the postorius_emailtemplate > table in the database which is retrieved via the Postorius API. >

2 years, 2 months

Re: Problem with redirection when entering alias without a / at the end

by Mark Sapiro

On 3/19/21 3:12 PM, Jens Günther wrote: > > > -> the first one works and leeds to > https://mailman.xyz.de/mailman3/postorius/lists > -> the second one redirects to > https://mailman.xyz.de/mailman/postorius/lists > -> which does not exist, since Apache-alias is only for mailman3 Sorry, I missed that it was mailman vs mailman3. > > I only use the apache-conf given in the documentation: > > <code> > Alias /mailman3/favicon.ico > /var/lib/mailman3/web/static/postorius/img/favicon.ico > Alias /mailman3/static /var/lib/mailman3/web/static > > <Directory "/var/lib/mailman3/web/static"> > Require all granted > </Directory> > > <IfModule mod_proxy_uwsgi.c> > ProxyPass /mailman3/favicon.ico ! > ProxyPass /mailman3/static ! > ProxyPass /mailman3 > unix:/run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock|uwsgi://localhost/ > </IfModule> > </code> I don't use uwsgi so I can't advise on its configuration, but do you have USE_X_FORWARDED_HOST = True SECURE_PROXY_SSL_HEADER = ('HTTP_X_FORWARDED_PROTO', 'https') in your Django settings? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

3 years, 8 months

Re: [Django] ERROR (EXTERNAL IP): Service Unavailable

by dancab＠caltech.edu

Mark, Is it only this list that has an issue? Yes, this is the only list that is having the issue. Can you visit other pages for this list? Yes, I'm able to view the members list, list settings, templates, etc. I've restarted the service and tried to access the held messages for the list once again. Here's what is in the mailman log. ERROR 2021-02-25 17:28:14,197 393 postorius Mailman REST API not available Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 706, in urlopen chunked=chunked, File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 445, in _make_request six.raise_from(e, None) File "<string>", line 3, in raise_from File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 440, in _make_request httplib_response = conn.getresponse() File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/http/client.py", line 1346, in getresponse response.begin() File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/http/client.py", line 307, in begin version, status, reason = self._read_status() File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/http/client.py", line 276, in _read_status raise RemoteDisconnected("Remote end closed connection without" http.client.RemoteDisconnected: Remote end closed connection without response During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 449, in send timeout=timeout File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 756, in urlopen method, url, error=e, _pool=self, _stacktrace=sys.exc_info()[2] File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 531, in increment raise six.reraise(type(error), error, _stacktrace) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/packages/six.py", line 734, in reraise raise value.with_traceback(tb) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 706, in urlopen chunked=chunked, File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 445, in _make_request six.raise_from(e, None) File "<string>", line 3, in raise_from File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 440, in _make_request httplib_response = conn.getresponse() File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/http/client.py", line 1346, in getresponse response.begin() File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/http/client.py", line 307, in begin version, status, reason = self._read_status() File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/http/client.py", line 276, in _read_status raise RemoteDisconnected("Remote end closed connection without" urllib3.exceptions.ProtocolError: ('Connection aborted.', RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response',)) During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/connection.py", line 112, in call headers=headers) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 61, in request return session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 542, in request resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 655, in send r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 498, in send raise ConnectionError(err, request=request) requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: ('Connection aborted.', RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response',)) During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 113, in _get_response response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/django/contrib/auth/decorators.py", line 21, in _wrapped_view return view_func(request, *args, **kwargs) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/postorius/auth/decorators.py", line 60, in wrapper return fn(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/postorius/views/list.py", line 620, in list_moderation paginator_class=MailmanPaginator) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/django_mailman3/lib/paginator.py", line 71, in paginate objects = paginator.page(page_num) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/django_mailman3/lib/paginator.py", line 47, in page result = self.function(count=self.per_page, page=number) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restobjects/mailinglist.py", line 132, in get_held_page return Page(self._connection, url, HeldMessage, count, page) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/page.py", line 37, in __init__ self._create_page() File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/page.py", line 62, in _create_page response, content = self._connection.call(self._build_url()) File "/opt/mailmanve/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/connection.py", line 136, in call 'Could not connect to Mailman API: ', repr(e)) mailmanclient.restbase.connection.MailmanConnectionError: ('Could not connect to Mailman API: ', "ConnectionError(ProtocolError('Connection aborted.', RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response',)),)") ERROR 2021-02-25 17:28:14,271 393 django.request Service Unavailable: /postorius/lists/cpa-announcement.caltech.edu/held_messages ERROR 2021-02-25 17:28:14,271 393 django.request Service Unavailable: /postorius/lists/cpa-announcement.caltech.edu/held_messages

3 years, 9 months

Re: MM3 not starting afte an upgrade

by Gelpi Andrea

Il 23/07/20 23:05, Mark Sapiro ha scritto: > On 7/23/20 4:35 AM, Gelpi Andrea wrote: >> Hi, >> to day in a Debian system I upgraded some packages. >> >> After the MM3 doesn't start anymore. . . . >> Jul 23 13:29:39 posta mailman3[2608]: os.kill(pid, 0) >> Jul 23 13:29:39 posta mailman3[2608]: PermissionError: [Errno 1] >> Operation not permitted > > > I think you have a stale lock issue and the master is trying to > determine if the process that set it still exists. > > Remove Mailman's var/locks/master.lck* > Thanks Mark, now MM3 star but postorius is not working. The web pagge return: An error occurred while processing your request. I receive an email with: ... Exception Type: KeyError at /postorius/lists/ Exception Value: 'file' Request information: USER: AnonymousUser GET: No GET data POST: No POST data FILES: No FILES data COOKIES: No cookie data Is that related to Django id setting or there is a passphrase mismach some where? How can I check? -- Gelpi ing. Andrea ************************************************** I documenti vitali dimostreranno la loro vitalitˆ spostandosi spontaneamente da dove li avevate lasciati a dove non riuscirete a trovarli. **************************************************

4 years, 4 months

Re: Postorius no connection to REST API

by Richard Rosner

Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 8/12/21 12:01 AM, Richard Rosner wrote: > > All the mailman processes should run as list and all mailman related > things should be readable and writable by list. I have set both /usr/bin/uwsgi-core and /usr/share/mailman3-web to be owned by lists, no changes yet. But at least mailman3-web now can actually be started without throwing an error. > > Yes, I meant if you want those URLs to work, you have to pass them to > uwsgi. You don't need all of them. mailman2 and postorius are > synonyms as are archives and hyperkitty > However, you could try using TCP to communicate with uwsgi rather than a > Unix socket. > This means replacing > uwsgi-socket = /run/mailman3-web/uwsgi.sock > with > uwsgi-socket = 0.0.0.0:8000 > in your uwsgi.ini file and using directives like > ProxyPass "/postorius" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/postorius" > ProxyPass "/hyperkitty" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/hyperkitty" > ProxyPass "/accounts" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/accounts" > ProxyPass "/django" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/django" > ProxyPass "/user-profile" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/user-profile" > ProxyPass "/mailman3" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/mailman3" > ProxyPass "/archives" "http://127.0.0.1:8000/archives" > > > in apache. I tried that switch and got ERR_HTTP2_PROTOCOL_ERROR. From the apache log: [Fri Aug 13 16:08:38.871462 2021] [mpm_event:notice] [pid 27808:tid 140008999584896] AH00489: Apache/2.4.48 (Debian) OpenSSL/1.1.1d mod_wsgi/4.6.5 \ Python/3.7 configured -- resuming normal operations [Fri Aug 13 16:08:38.871603 2021] [core:notice] [pid 27808:tid 140008999584896] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2' [Fri Aug 13 16:08:42.881615 2021] [proxy_http:error] [pid 27809:tid 140008751261440] (20014)Internal error (specific information not available): [c\ lient 134.61.99.193:36563] AH01102: error reading status line from remote server 127.0.0.1:8000 [Fri Aug 13 16:08:44.072665 2021] [proxy_http:error] [pid 27809:tid 140008751261440] (20014)Internal error (specific information not available): [c\ lient 134.61.99.193:36563] AH01102: error reading status line from remote server 127.0.0.1:8000 [Fri Aug 13 16:08:49.277000 2021] [proxy_http:error] [pid 27810:tid 140008709297920] (20014)Internal error (specific information not available): [c\ lient 134.61.99.193:36696] AH01102: error reading status line from remote server 127.0.0.1:8000 I set them all to https. which solved the https error. But I still get Error 500. From apache log: [Fri Aug 13 15:47:58.833305 2021] [mpm_event:notice] [pid 26720:tid 139986206332032] AH00489: Apache/2.4.48 (Debian) OpenSSL/1.1.1d mod_wsgi/4.6.5 \ Python/3.7 configured -- resuming normal operations [Fri Aug 13 15:47:58.833436 2021] [core:notice] [pid 26720:tid 139986206332032] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2' [Fri Aug 13 15:49:41.673108 2021] [ssl:error] [pid 26722:tid 139985899259648] [remote 127.0.0.1:8000] AH01961: SSL Proxy requested for lists.fsmuw.\ rwth-aachen.de:443 but not enabled [Hint: SSLProxyEngine] [Fri Aug 13 15:49:41.905868 2021] [proxy:error] [pid 26722:tid 139985899259648] AH00961: https: failed to enable ssl support for 127.0.0.1:8000 (12\ 7.0.0.1) [Fri Aug 13 15:59:25.049708 2021] [ssl:error] [pid 26722:tid 139985899259648] [remote 127.0.0.1:8000] AH01961: SSL Proxy requested for lists.fsmuw.\ rwth-aachen.de:443 but not enabled [Hint: SSLProxyEngine] [Fri Aug 13 15:59:25.059217 2021] [proxy:error] [pid 26722:tid 139985899259648] AH00961: https: failed to enable ssl support for 127.0.0.1:8000 (12\ 7.0.0.1) From the mailman-web log: uwsgi socket 0 bound to TCP address 0.0.0.0:8000 fd 4 Python version: 3.7.3 (default, Jan 22 2021, 20:04:44) [GCC 8.3.0] Python main interpreter initialized at 0x561db180adf0 python threads support enabled your server socket listen backlog is limited to 100 connections your mercy for graceful operations on workers is 60 seconds mapped 166752 bytes (162 KB) for 2 cores *** Operational MODE: threaded *** WSGI app 0 (mountpoint='') ready in 3 seconds on interpreter 0x561db180adf0 pid: 26851 (default app) *** uWSGI is running in multiple interpreter mode *** spawned uWSGI master process (pid: 26851) spawned uWSGI worker 1 (pid: 26861, cores: 2) [uwsgi-daemons] spawning "python3 manage.py qcluster" (uid: 38 gid: 38) 13:48:04 [Q] INFO Q Cluster-26864 starting. 13:48:04 [Q] INFO Process-1:1 ready for work at 26866 13:48:04 [Q] INFO Process-1:2 ready for work at 26867 13:48:04 [Q] INFO Process-1:3 monitoring at 26868 13:48:04 [Q] INFO Process-1 guarding cluster at 26865 13:48:04 [Q] INFO Q Cluster-26864 running. 13:48:04 [Q] INFO Process-1:4 pushing tasks at 26869 So at least that seems to be fine now > I am not familiar enough with apache/uwsgi configuration to be of more > help. Have you seen https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344 and have you asked > Debian for help with their package. They are the ones who should be > supporting it https://www.debian.org/support. I'll open an error report on mailman3-web. Maybe they have some input to that.

3 years, 3 months

Re: Member Issue Discovered

by Stephen J. Turnbull

Brian Carpenter writes: > I reported a serious problem. Inability to change display name is an annoying problem that probably *will* affect quite a few users, and if they can't do it themselves, it will affect list admins and then site admins who are asked to do it for them. Nobody has said we won't work on that, but it's not like we've had 1000 reports in the several years that Mailman 3 has been in production use. Nor is it all that big a deal: the user retains control of the display name in each post (modulo the DMARC mitigation). As far as I know the stored display name is only used cosmetically (in the UIs for user configuration of Postorius and HyperKitty and in administrative mail to the user). > The reply was to bring up assumptions that should not be made such > as a list member is actually a registered user. I'm not sure what you think is going on here. Users (registered) are the locus of authentication in Mailman, and as such they are more or less equivalent to Mailman's raison d'être, namely giving (human) users control of their own subscriptions. The difference between Mailman 2 and Mailman 3 is that in the former a user *is* an address, in the latter a user *has* an address (and maybe several). The original "user == subscription" model of Mailman 2 is plausible, but it wasn't sustainable. The users and admins we hear from most are "heavy users": the users subscribe to dozens of lists, typically several on a single host. They *really* wanted a single user that could provide a dashboard with one authentication, convenient default settings for new subscriptions, and access to information about all subscriptions and the user profile in the dashboard. And that's why Mailman 3 has a model with users (the core concept corresponding to human beings), addresses, and subscriptions (memberships), where most addresses are backed by users. > As you said they [list members] are not [registered users]. I'm pretty sure I didn't say that, but if I did, it's *still false*. Users are the core concept. It's *possible* to have addresses (and maybe subscriptions?) without users, but the normal case is a user which has one or more addresses, which are subscribed to one or more lists. > Regardless of whether they are just a list member or a list member > that is also a registered user, there is NO MECHANISM in place > where you can change their associated display name Ie, you agree. The *issue as originally reported* is that the display name cannot be changed in Mailman's database. > AND their data is not entirely removed when a reasonable assumption > is being made that it has, It's not reasonable for Mailman 3, as Mark and I have explained. > such as list unsubscribing. If a user unsubscribes from a list, that unlinks *one* of the user's addresses from *one* list. Assuming that that has anything to do with existence of user data is unwarranted in Mailman 3, and it was extremely weak in Mailman 2 as well, since unsubscribing fron one list doesn't change the fact that the address may be subscribed to other lists on the same server, likely with the same metadata (really the password was the only important thing, but that confirms the principle). If you want to automatically delete any associated user any time a list is unsubscribed in Affinity, you *can* do that. I don't think it's a good idea, not at all, but you *could*. I deal with the case where the user has exactly *one* subscription below. But that is not the general case. > Sorry but I can't see how this behavior can be justified Then you need to cool down, and think about how this actually could work, not how somebody who makes incorrect assumptions would like it to work. > and also not being made a high priority to fix. Offer me 25,000 yen/hr and I'll do the display name change next week. Priorities differ. > Some may think that retaining data when there is a reasonable > assumption that it is being removed It's not a reasonable assumption in Mailman 3, though, as Mark and I have explained. > is immoral and not just a violation of GDPR. I don't disagree for reasonable assumptions. I'm well-aware of the ethical and legal issues here. We may want to add a facility so that users can delete themselves. But that's a *hard* problem if it's going to be "right to be forgotten" compatible because you can't keep backups -- we need to be sure that the user knows what they're doing (and if they've assumed that the data "should" be removed, we already know they don't know what they're doing!) I don't think we keep Bitcoin wallets in the Mailman metadata (yet ;-), so deleting your user won't bankrupt you. But you will lose all your *other subscriptions* and your default settings, etc. The latter is a PITA until we build up a nice suite of templates (and I don't think we have user templates yet anyway). And once we do add that feature, it probably makes sense to offer to do so (after explaining the consequences) if the user deletes their last subscription. But I just don't see this as a major issue, except maybe for corporate users under GDPR and friends. And I doubt *they* will even blink at my consulting rates. :-) > As I said in my reply to Mark, it is a big deal for list owners > (admins) because they are the ones that are going to be interacting > with Postorius/Affinity the most. Technical question: Why do you include Affinity? As far as I know, Mark is correct, you can both change display names and delete users with mailmanclient, and therefore with the REST API (mailmanclient is just a wrapper around the REST API, it has no superpowers). In Affinity, this behavior is under *your* exclusive control. I also don't agree with your claim about admins interacting most. Yes, they will interact more often, but in my experience most interactions are conducted by ordinary users, not admins. That may not be true for your hosted lists, since they're aimed at a very different population from my software devs and economics professors and university students, but there are large populations of users out here who are perfectly happy to manage their own subscriptions, thank you very much. In any case, there's very little difference between users and admins for this kind of feature, *except* the scope of resources they can view and modify. If Postorius gives the feature to users, it will be trivial to enable it listwide for list admins, and vice versa. But deleting users is an even harder problem with respect to list admins: what if the user is subscribed to a list on a different virtual host that the list admin can't know about and the user may not realize is the same Mailman user? *Probably* it's good enough to refuse to delete the user in that case, but it's not obvious to me that users who make wrong assumptions will see it that way. > Most list members, especially those migrating from MM2, will not be > registering with Postorius/Affinity. I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean "the migration script will register them", OK, but they're still registered and still subject to the user-address-member model. But Postorius is just a UI. Postorius does have its own database, which is often confusing, but the user-address-member model is in core. It's core where the important registrations for subscribers take place. You can have a user-less address in the database, but for the address's owner to do anything with it, such as subscribe to a list or set a list to vacation mode, they have to authenticate (that includes implicit authentication with the OTK used to confirm a new user), and to authenticate they have to have a registered user, not just an address. Most addresses will be associated with users.

4 years, 1 month

Re: Postorius: Show only own lists

by Terri Oda

On January 23, 2018 6:26:51 AM PST, Thor Atle Rustad <thor.rustad(a)gmail.com> wrote: >2018-01-23 14:37 GMT+01:00 Simon Hanna <simon(a)hannaweb.eu>: > >> On 01/23/2018 12:10 PM, Thor Atle Rustad wrote: >> >>> Imagine an installation with 500+ mailing lists and almost as many >local >>> admins that are supposed to maintain their own local lists with a >few >>> local >>> members. As site admin, I see all 500+ lists, but I was expecting >*local* >>> admins to see only the lists they maintain. I have set all lists to >>> "advertised = False", so they are hidden from ordinary view. Is >there a >>> way >>> to show only relevant lists to local admins? >I believe I wrote Postorius in the subject line, but it may not be so >obvious. So yes, in Posterius I would like to hide the lists from email >harvesters, while relatively "untrusted" admins should have access to >basic >operations on the one list he/she "owns" (and without having to browse >through 50 pages of mailing lists). Somehow I don't think 500 >superusers in >our system is a good idea! What do you mean by local admins? Is this 1. Giantsite.example.com hosts lists for a bunch of domains, and you want the logged in admins of mydomain.com to see their list admin pages but not otherdomain.org's lists 2. You want each logged in admin to have their own personal dashboard of list admin pages for lists they administrate, even though they're all under one big domain. (Neither of those scenarios talks about archives, since you say you're only talking about postorious) I think #2 is something we should be doing, and the old "todo" section of the interface kind of was made with that in mind. Probably worth mocking up some screenshots and opening a feature request to keep the idea in mind, but it should be more a matter of prioritizing how things are displayed than any huge change. I'm not sure if we have a "local admin" concept in the system that lines up with #1, though.

6 years, 10 months

Re: Assistance Needed for Ubuntu 22.04 Mailman3 Installation and Configuration

by Odhiambo Washington

On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 9:12 AM smiithjohn90--- via Mailman-users < mailman-users(a)mailman3.org> wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I'm trying to install Mailman3 on an Ubuntu 22.04 server right now, and > I've run across a few obstacles that I'd like help with. I've followed the > installation instructions, but I'm having trouble in a couple places, so I > was hoping an experienced someone might help me out. > > This is what I have completed thus far: > > - I used the apt-get package manager to install Mailman3. > Installing Mailman3 using the steps outlined at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html is highly recommended. However.... - PostgreSQL was configured as the database backend. > - Postfix was installed and set up to function as the Mail Transfer Agent > (MTA). > - Assemble Postorius, Hyperkitty, and the Mailman3 core. > > Problems I'm Having: > > Postorius and Hyperkitty Connectivity: I'm having problems making sure > that the Mailman core is correctly connected to Postorius and Hyperkitty. I > get a 502 Bad Gateway error when I try to access the web interfaces. > Despite checking my specifications, I am unable to identify the problem. > Check to see that "mailman-web" is running and listening on the port you have specified in your webserver config. lsof -i -P -n | grep :NNNN > Problems with Email Delivery: I'm also having trouble with email delivery. > Although Mailman appears to be receiving emails, it is not appearing to be > sending any out. I think there might be a Postfix problem, but I'm not sure > how to solve it. > You can check Postfix logs for clues. Generally Suggested Practices: Are there any particular security best > practices I should be aware of when it comes to Mailman3 installations? I > want to confirm that my configuration is both performance- and > security-optimized. > > > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… > https://www.igmguru.com/salesforce/salesforce-developer-training > > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… > > I would be grateful for any advice or resources! It would be really > beneficial if someone with a similar setup could share their settings or > troubleshooting procedures. > Our settings are as documented in this HOWTO: https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html We do NOT use Distro packages for Mailman3. Regarding "performance- and security-optimized", I can say that for Nginx/Apache/Postfix, the usual security/optimization rules apply, which I think might be somehow beyond the scope of the MM3 discussion. PS: There are others who use the distro packages to install MM3 and they have previously posted the details in this list. You could search the list archives for that. There is some old documentation that I believe can work for you too: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xIcSsoNFp2nHi7r4eQys00s9a0k2sHhu1V5Plan… It's detailed enough. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

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