Hi, list!
I'm on Fedora 36 with the packages mailman3-3.3.4-6.fc36.noarch and postorius-1.3.6-2.fc36.noarch installed. with the command
sudo -u mailman mailman3 create <listname>
I was able to create a list.
I'm not able to find out how to setup and configure the postorius package. There's no mailman-web command.
Hyperkitty will not installed du to a dependency conflict, but I dont need archiving for the list.
Here comes my quesitons:
What's the easiest way to approve an email sent to the list?
How can I configure the list to accept messages also from non members?
How can I setup postorius to work on Fedora? I have django-admin, but I'm not sure where to go.
Thanks in advance, Lars
On 12/26/22 12:08, Lars Bjørndal wrote:
Hi, list!
I'm on Fedora 36 with the packages mailman3-3.3.4-6.fc36.noarch and postorius-1.3.6-2.fc36.noarch installed. with the command
sudo -u mailman mailman3 create <listname>
I was able to create a list.
I'm not able to find out how to setup and configure the postorius package. There's no mailman-web command.
See <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/>. I don't know how you invoke the Django management command in the postorius-1.3.6-2.fc36.noarch package. It could be manage.py or django-admin or something else.
Hyperkitty will not installed du to a dependency conflict, but I dont need archiving for the list.
Here comes my quesitons:
- What's the easiest way to approve an email sent to the list?
Approving held messages via email requires Mailman core >= 3.3.5. See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/169> Thus, the easiest way is via Postorius.
- How can I configure the list to accept messages also from non members?
Set the list's default_nonmember_action to Action.defer. This can be done via Postorius, mailman shell or the REST API.
- How can I setup postorius to work on Fedora? I have django-admin, but I'm not sure where to go.
See the Postorius docs at
https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/setup.html#installati...
to get started. (replace python manage.py with django-admin)
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Not sure about Fedora, but there seem to be some issues with distribution specific packages. Many users have got good results with the virtualenv installation described here:
https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html
this description is Debian/Ubuntu related, but should work for Fedora too. In the end you get a system that is much more up to date and you get support here in the mm3-users list.
My mailman3 runs in venv on Debian.
Hope that helps.
Am Montag, 26. Dezember 2022, 21:08:46 CET schrieb Lars Bjørndal:
Hi, list!
I'm on Fedora 36 with the packages mailman3-3.3.4-6.fc36.noarch and postorius-1.3.6-2.fc36.noarch installed. with the command
sudo -u mailman mailman3 create <listname>
I was able to create a list.
I'm not able to find out how to setup and configure the postorius package. There's no mailman-web command.
Hyperkitty will not installed du to a dependency conflict, but I dont need archiving for the list.
Here comes my quesitons:
What's the easiest way to approve an email sent to the list?
How can I configure the list to accept messages also from non members?
How can I setup postorius to work on Fedora? I have django-admin, but I'm not sure where to go.
Thanks in advance, Lars
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[Eggert]
Not sure about Fedora, but there seem to be some issues with distribution specific packages. Many users have got good results with the virtualenv installation described here:
Thank you! I gave it a try. I installed postgresql and postgresql-server, created the databases according to the guide and tried to start mailman. I get this error:
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Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 3361, in _wrap_pool_connect return fn() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 325, in connect return _ConnectionFairy._checkout(self) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 888, in _checkout fairy = _ConnectionRecord.checkout(pool) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 491, in checkout rec = pool._do_get() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/impl.py", line 145, in _do_get with util.safe_reraise(): File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/util/langhelpers.py", line 70, in __exit__ compat.raise_( File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/util/compat.py", line 211, in raise_ raise exception File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/impl.py", line 143, in _do_get return self._create_connection() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 271, in _create_connection return _ConnectionRecord(self) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 386, in __init__ self.__connect() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 684, in __connect with util.safe_reraise(): File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/util/langhelpers.py", line 70, in __exit__ compat.raise_( File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/util/compat.py", line 211, in raise_ raise exception File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 680, in __connect self.dbapi_connection = connection = pool._invoke_creator(self) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/create.py", line 578, in connect return dialect.connect(*cargs, **cparams) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/default.py", line 598, in connect return self.dbapi.connect(*cargs, **cparams) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/psycopg2/__init__.py", line 127, in connect conn = _connect(dsn, connection_factory=connection_factory, **kwasync) psycopg2.OperationalError: connection to server at "localhost" (::1), port 5432 failed: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "mailman"
The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:
Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailman3/venv/bin/mailman", line 33, in <module> sys.exit(load_entry_point('mailman==3.3.7', 'console_scripts', 'mailman')()) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1130, in __call__ return self.main(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1054, in main with self.make_context(prog_name, args, **extra) as ctx: File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py", line 920, in make_context self.parse_args(ctx, args) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1613, in parse_args rest = super().parse_args(ctx, args) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1378, in parse_args value, args = param.handle_parse_result(ctx, opts, args) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py", line 2360, in handle_parse_result value = self.process_value(ctx, value) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/click/core.py", line 2322, in process_value value = self.callback(ctx, self, value) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/mailman/bin/mailman.py", line 95, in initialize_config initialize(value) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 229, in initialize initialize_2(propagate_logs=propagate_logs) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 187, in initialize_2 config.db = getUtility(IDatabaseFactory, utility_name).create() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/mailman/database/factory.py", line 58, in create SchemaManager(database).setup_database() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/mailman/database/factory.py", line 86, in setup_database context = MigrationContext.configure(self._database.store.connection()) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/orm/session.py", line 1542, in connection return self._connection_for_bind( File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/orm/session.py", line 1552, in _connection_for_bind return self._transaction._connection_for_bind( File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/orm/session.py", line 747, in _connection_for_bind conn = bind.connect() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/future/engine.py", line 406, in connect return super(Engine, self).connect() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 3315, in connect return self._connection_cls(self, close_with_result=close_with_result) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 96, in __init__ else engine.raw_connection() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 3394, in raw_connection return self._wrap_pool_connect(self.pool.connect, _connection) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 3364, in _wrap_pool_connect Connection._handle_dbapi_exception_noconnection( File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 2198, in _handle_dbapi_exception_noconnection util.raise_( File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/util/compat.py", line 211, in raise_ raise exception File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 3361, in _wrap_pool_connect return fn() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 325, in connect return _ConnectionFairy._checkout(self) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 888, in _checkout fairy = _ConnectionRecord.checkout(pool) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 491, in checkout rec = pool._do_get() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/impl.py", line 145, in _do_get with util.safe_reraise(): File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/util/langhelpers.py", line 70, in __exit__ compat.raise_( File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/util/compat.py", line 211, in raise_ raise exception File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/impl.py", line 143, in _do_get return self._create_connection() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 271, in _create_connection return _ConnectionRecord(self) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 386, in __init__ self.__connect() File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 684, in __connect with util.safe_reraise(): File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/util/langhelpers.py", line 70, in __exit__ compat.raise_( File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/util/compat.py", line 211, in raise_ raise exception File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 680, in __connect self.dbapi_connection = connection = pool._invoke_creator(self) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/create.py", line 578, in connect return dialect.connect(*cargs, **cparams) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/default.py", line 598, in connect return self.dbapi.connect(*cargs, **cparams) File "/opt/mailman3/venv/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/psycopg2/__init__.py", line 127, in connect conn = _connect(dsn, connection_factory=connection_factory, **kwasync) sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (psycopg2.OperationalError) connection to server at "localhost" (::1), port 5432 failed: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "mailman"
(Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/14/e3q8)
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And here I'm stucked. I have very litle experience with databases, so I don't know how to debug. Any hint?
Thank you
Lars
Am Montag, 26. Dezember 2022, 21:08:46 CET schrieb Lars Bjørndal:
Hi, list!
I'm on Fedora 36 with the packages mailman3-3.3.4-6.fc36.noarch and postorius-1.3.6-2.fc36.noarch installed. with the command
sudo -u mailman mailman3 create <listname>
I was able to create a list.
I'm not able to find out how to setup and configure the postorius package. There's no mailman-web command.
Hyperkitty will not installed du to a dependency conflict, but I dont need archiving for the list.
Here comes my quesitons:
What's the easiest way to approve an email sent to the list?
How can I configure the list to accept messages also from non members?
How can I setup postorius to work on Fedora? I have django-admin, but I'm not sure where to go.
Thanks in advance, Lars
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psycopg2.OperationalError: connection to server at "localhost" (::1), port 5432 failed: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "mailman"
In the file /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf, I changed from ident to md5 for the authentication field. Now Mailman starts.
Thanks, Lars
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