If you delete a list but not the HyperKitty archive
It seems that if you delete a list from the "Delete" option on a list's management page, the corresponding HyperKitty archive does not get deleted.
That seems fair enough ... but now I wondering how HyperKitty manages visibility access to the archive when the list was private.
HyperKitty certainly *seems* to have some knowledge of who was subscribed to a list as attempting to access a private archive with an account that wasn't subscribed prior to the list being deleted does deny access with "This mailing list is private. You must be subscribed to view the archives."
But logging in as the server admin, going to the archive URL and then clicking on "Manage subscription" gives me a "Page not found" error ... which isn't too surprising as the list has been deleted. It suggests, though, that it isn't possible to manage access to the *archive* after the list has been removed.
So ... should the archive be deleted when the list is deleted and it is a bug that it isn't? Or is it expected that access to the archive is "frozen" once a list is deleted?
Many thanks.
Philip
On 1/4/22 6:45 AM, Philip Colmer wrote:
So ... should the archive be deleted when the list is deleted and it is a bug that it isn't? Or is it expected that access to the archive is "frozen" once a list is deleted?
It is often desired to have a public archive available after the corresponding list has been deleted. Even for a private archive, it may be desirable for site admins to have access. Furthermore, a list might not even have a HyperKitty archive in the first place. Thus, what to do about a HyperKitty archive (or prototype archive or ...) when a list is deleted is an administrative decision and is best left up to the site admins to do it or not.
As you note with a private archive, former members no longer have access when the list is gone, but unless an attempt throws some uncaught exception, that is not a bug.
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 at 18:34, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 1/4/22 6:45 AM, Philip Colmer wrote:
So ... should the archive be deleted when the list is deleted and it is a bug that it isn't? Or is it expected that access to the archive is
"frozen"
once a list is deleted?
It is often desired to have a public archive available after the corresponding list has been deleted. Even for a private archive, it may be desirable for site admins to have access. Furthermore, a list might not even have a HyperKitty archive in the first place. Thus, what to do about a HyperKitty archive (or prototype archive or ...) when a list is deleted is an administrative decision and is best left up to the site admins to do it or not.
As you note with a private archive, former members no longer have access when the list is gone, but unless an attempt throws some uncaught exception, that is not a bug.
Thanks, Mark, for the clarification.
Regards
Philip
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